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Black Americans by all acounts are a mentally dead people. Lacking the will to do for self as a people accounts for a dead status. One could erase every living black American from this country and the only noticeable differance to the world would be in sports and entertainment. That can be easily replaced. Since black Americans DO NOT produce food, clothing, utilities and transportation to name a few things...they would not be missed on earth. So, when the Bible speaks of the dead will rise, it refers to the blind, deaf and dumb Black Americans who do for the white people but lack the understanding to do for self. So the time has come for Black Americans to rise from the ground and depths of ignorance so as to began to do the things that living people do. It starts with land to produce, land to grow, land to build and land to become an independant nation of earth. check out my book at www.trafford.com/06-2972............21st Century Vision for Black America
Posted By: jamal Abraham
Wednesday, May 26th 2010 at 8:43AM
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AfricanAmerican President Baraka Hussein Obama would be left and he is Americans Saviour............
Wednesday, May 26th 2010 at 9:44AM
robert powell
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When foreign immigrants come to America, they all but discount African Americans. Knowing that we were once slaves and pretty much a buch of consumers and don't really "effect" anything on earth....except who will win the superbowl or NCAA championship. Sure, President Obama is alive but is only one man....and no one man can ever rise above the conditions of his own people.
Wednesday, May 26th 2010 at 10:11AM
jamal Abraham
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As-Salaam Alaikum Brother Jamal:
I believe that if we use our resources wisely, then we will start to SEE positive results from our labor. But as long as we allow agape love to be so far removed from the Black community due to emotional bull**** and religious differences, we will continue to be dissatisfied with our condition as a people in this country.
Wednesday, May 26th 2010 at 10:27AM
Siebra Muhammad
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I concur with you, Robert, Jamal, and Siebra!
It is WE (non-sports, non-superstars, just regular folk) WHO ARE NOT COUNTED...WE WILL RISE TO CLAIM OUR RIGHTFUL PLACE ON THIS EARTH...the question for some would probably be...WHEN?
Peace and Love,
Greg.
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Wednesday, May 26th 2010 at 10:36AM
Gregory V. Boulware, Esq.
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Peace and Love To You Too Brother!
Wednesday, May 26th 2010 at 10:41AM
Siebra Muhammad
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Absolutely, bro. Gregory....our rightful place is rulers and it takes our own nation and government for that.
Wednesday, May 26th 2010 at 1:31PM
jamal Abraham
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Hello to All,
I have quite a few comments to make based on everything each of you have said. Let me remind you all that everything I have ever said is common sense, wisdom as well as right since no one have trumped anything that I said.
Now, let me make this clear that anything said in the Bible has nothing to do with Black Americans. Therefore, when Jamal says that the Bible say the dead shall rise, it is referring to Black Americans is entirely erroneous. Other peoples’ ways, religion, customs and rituals swallow up Jamal. Jamal is very much confused.
Here is the rationale. I said that the Bible is the Jewish people’s testimony, period. No one can deny that. So, common sense would tell you that the phrase, “the dead shall rise” has something to do with the Jewish and European gentile people and not Black Americans since Black Americans did not exist when the Bible was written, am I right. In addition, you Negroes both Christians and Muslims champions the Bible only because we are ignorant. No prophet to God gave us the Bible or the holy Quran, am I right. We just up the Charlie picked these books up and began to believe in them. Our religious book of guidance is forthcoming. We must have a prophet first and then a religious book of guidance follows.
Secondly, it is common sense that all of you should know only one person has our permanent solution, which is we must desire to become a sovereign people on a portion of this continent. Mr. Elijah Muhammad, Mr. Marcus Garvey, Dr. King, Mr. Louis Farrakhan and the Rev. Al Sharpton do not have our permanent solution. Moses had the children of Israel’s permanent solution, which was the Exodus, am I right. Likewise, this one person among us has our permanent solution again, which is our Sovereignty or complete independence on the portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way.
The same entity that gave and backed Moses is the same entity that gave and is backing this one person (our prophet) among us that would lead us into our Sovereignty on a portion of this continent. I am showing you a pattern of how God works using the story of Moses as a comparison and contrast to our prophet that is among us that can do what all others before him couldn’t do because God is with this one person, our prophet. Am I making any sense with you all?
Okay, Jamal says we need land. Well, this individual has long been saying that our only permanent solution is to desire sovereignty on a portion of this continent and nowhere else. Consequentially, it seems that Jamal is now reluctantly supporting the call of Sovereignty, am I right. Again, only one person has the power to do it and that is the person that God hand is on, if you will. You would know this person since no one is able to trump anything that he has said since everything he said came from God. The same that everything Moses said came from God.
Now, Siebra Muhammad says that if we use our resources wisely we will start to SEE positive results. But, due to emotional bull**** and religious differences, we will continue to be dissatisfied with our condition as a people in this country. She is making sense but she does not see it for herself. Let me explain. She says we should use our resources wisely. Well, what are our resources? Our only resource that we have is our brainpower or rational abilities, which is not very impressive. Likewise, the children of Israel’s brainpower or rational abilities were not impressive either and that is why God sent them Moses. God have sent us a prophet as well. Our limited resource is to identify who this prophet is since no one could take his place just as no one could have taken Moses place. Am I making any sense?
Now, here comes the most important point. Siebra says we are emotionally hung up on bull**** and religious differences.
I have told all of you that the name of our religion is, “LIFE”. Let me remind you what “LIFE” really means. It is the salvation of God for the sovereignty of Black Americans who are descendents of slaves. Therefore, we have no further need to be hung up on religious differences since we have our own religion today. Furthermore, Jamal says that Black Americans are a dead people. Now, what better religion should Black Americans have but a religion of, “LIFE”? So, if you notice, you all are inherently playing right into everything that I have been saying all along, am I right.
Next, Mr. Gregory comes on board and agrees with all of you, which subliminally he is agreeing with everything that I have been saying for the longest as well. Am I making any sense?
So, in conclusion I will leave it up to you all to figure out who our genuine prophet is. You should be able to connect the dots even when using your limited resources or brainpower or rational abilities. Bear in mind, you have no right to choose who your prophet is and you cannot exchange him since God chose him for us. Does that make sense to you? If what I have said does not make any sense to you all then you need to trump my wisdom.
Tell me what you think.
Wednesday, May 26th 2010 at 3:02PM
Harry Watley
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I was going to leave an additional comment of this but I see the Black Jimmy Swaggert has came back on the air...
Watch it family, don't laugh!
Wednesday, May 26th 2010 at 3:09PM
Siebra Muhammad
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Harry, you have said a bunch of nothing...so lets get back on point. There are about 40 million African Americans in this country. More than half of us are familiar with the Bible, so we cannot discount the Bible. Now, it says the dead shall rise in the Bible. Lets take it from there since we can all attest that when you die no one has ever come back. So it must be speaking of something else. The something else is what we are speaking about. African Americans represents a giant of a people that is fast asleep......when we "wake" up it will be great....and that is what the world awaits.
Wednesday, May 26th 2010 at 3:35PM
jamal Abraham
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It's unfortunate that this conversation even has to be had. Black Americans should wake up and realize the stupidity of their ways. We are the very definition of stupidity, ''God will provide. Let go and let God. I am nothing without the Lord.'' etc., etc., etc. Does anyone see a trend? The trend is that we force OURSELVES to be less than independent. And all this waiting and look at where we are ... on BIA recognizing the fact that we AS A PEOPLE are D-E-A-D. Fewer whites are Christian, hardly ANY Asians and compare them to us. Those people stand up and take action for themselves and hold THEMSELVES accountable for their successes and failures.
We don't even show humility. Many of us will ridicule poor whites calling them ''trailer park'' while we live accept government checks and live in nicely built Section 8 Housing apts. which FAR worse. At least those people are self-sustained and live within their means. Our people are incredible.
Great post again, Jamal. Good luck w/your book sales. I'm out.
Wednesday, May 26th 2010 at 4:17PM
Craig Amos
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Hello Jamal,
Again, you do not understand. So, I am going to try again, but this time I will not write so much. I will stick to one single point.
Since your premise is based on the Bible and for me to destroy your premise, I must first destroy the Bible concerning Black Americans. Does that make any sense to you?
Is or is not the Bible the Jewish people’s testimony to the world?
Now, if you could see that the Bible is the Jewish people’s testimony to the world since the Jewish people are the principal people in the Bible then your common sense should tell you that there is nothing in the Bible about Black Americans. Consequentially, the phrase, “the dead shall rise” has nothing to do with Black Americans. Does that make sense to you?
Incidentally, you do not have any wisdom since you continuously label Black Americans as African-Americans. So, let me educate you on what an African-American is. An African-American is an African that has become an American citizen. A Black American is the people that came from the breeding between White People of English descent and African people from Africa during the time slavery. So, if your crooked thinking could be fair with itself, you would have to say that we are Caucasian African Americans, am I right. Now, what is a Caucasian-African-American is? You tell me.
Tell me what you think.
Wednesday, May 26th 2010 at 4:36PM
Harry Watley
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Harry, you can call our people black Americans, African Americans, Bilalians, so-called Negroes, colored people...it does not make me that much differance as long as we know who we are speaking of.......WHAT REMAINS IS THAT WE STILL ARE MENTALLY DEAD.
The bible was written for us, the children of slaves, as a mercy but was intercepted by white Jews and they changed much but not all of it. Now, we do not have to rehash that point every time we converse...it is just the facts of it.
Wednesday, May 26th 2010 at 5:04PM
jamal Abraham
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Craig, your ability to resolve is sharp as a tack. I'd say that not only do we define stupidity, it is underlined by us. But, as an optimist and activists for a change, I think the dead will rise.
Wednesday, May 26th 2010 at 7:02PM
jamal Abraham
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Bro. Craig and his drive bys.... Gotta luv it.... Watch out for the bullets!! DELETE JAMAL IF YOU LIKE!!
Wednesday, May 26th 2010 at 7:42PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
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Hello Jamal,
It works to your disadvantage not to give you too much wisdom and insight at one time. Therefore, I will confine myself to no more than two points at a time so my points would sink in.
Here is point number one. It does make a difference that we know who we are. If we do not know who we are, you would not know where you belong in this world. So again, it does matter to know precisely who we are. What I have just said should not be argued or taken apart. For instance, if you do not know precisely who you are, as a Black American you may register yourself as a Chinese-American or an African-American. Blacks have been fighting the question of who they are for hundreds of years now. However, I came and showed you precisely who we are. Elijah Muhammad thought that we were Asiatic Black people, but we are not. There is no such thing as Asiatic Black people. We are a new breed or race of people that has emerged out of the ashes of slavery when White Americans bred themselves with the African slave people that they purchased from the slave traders. What I have just said is a fact and if you can tear it apart, you ought to do it, but with facts and intelligence! For you to say that it does not matter who we are as long as we know who we are talking to is garbage. It tells me that you do not have a factual argument to stand on against my wisdom. Yes, we are mentally dead, but that is not the issue right now. The issue is your ignorance that you would not acknowledge that we are Black Americans as I have described us to be above and that we are not African Americans and colored people that you believes that we are. As God makes my way straight it is my obligation to make us wise people and not stupid as Craig said that we are.
Now, for the second point. You said that the Bible was written for us. That is a very bold statement and without factual backup what would make us believe you. I said that the Bible is the testimony of the Jewish people to the world. I backed it up when I said that the principal people in the Bible are Jewish people. There are no Black Americans written about in the Bible and you know it. Everyone in the Bible is incidental to the Jewish people. Any simpleminded person could see that and I have an IQ of 68. How it is that you cannot see the truth in what I say. In addition, I gave an example. I said that it is the testimony of Moses (a Jewish man) that God chose him to lead his people out of bondage and slavery in Egypt. The story is true because the ritual of the Passover that is practiced today is practiced only by the Jewish people in the state of Israel, which would substantiate everything that I am saying to be true. I also said that it is the testimony of the Jewish people; Moses that is, that God gave the precise measurements as how to build the Ark of the Covenant. Consequentially, how is it that you could determine that the Bible was written for us, Black Americans is beyond me since you have no backup to go along with your erroneous belief. You got this crazy belief from Mr. Elijah Muhammad. I have told you that I am wiser than Elijah Muhammad ever was. You are being very irrational. Nevertheless, present your facts that the Bible was written for us by first telling me who the hell wrote the Bible for us and when, okay.
I am God genuine prophet to us and I am wiser than all. No one was ever wiser than the prophet god rose up. No one was ever wiser than Prophet Mohammed was. No one was wiser than Moses was. No one was wiser than Prophet Jesus was. Consequentially, how would anyone be wiser than I am? How it is that you cannot connect the dots, but I can with a 68 IQ? I have explained to you why God would make sure the prophets are wiser than their people are and adversaries were as well. You are an electrical engineer. I am Black America’s first genuine prophet. Who then should be closest to God to lead our people into sovereignty on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders? Have I made good sense with you Jamal?
What say you?
Wednesday, May 26th 2010 at 11:18PM
Harry Watley
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Harry, the Bible is a book of stories about families. There is the family of Noah, the family of Abraham, the family of David and the family of Jonah. What interest would we black Americans have in this stories of people if there were not parellels to we black Americans. Each story in the bible is symbolically speaking about us black Americans . For instance Lazerus is speaking about the lazy characteristic of many many black Americans. He was begging at the rich man's table for just crumbs. Now that is the brother down the street. The brother round the corner. Here in America.
Wednesday, May 26th 2010 at 11:25PM
jamal Abraham
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What you say Harry???
I am God genuine prophet to us and I am wiser than all......
Consequentially, how would anyone be wiser than I am? ..........
__________________________(ha!) (ha) (ha)
Wednesday, May 26th 2010 at 11:40PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
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Psalm 74:9..... HARRY
We see not our signs: there is no more any prophet: neither is there among us any that knoweth how long.
Wednesday, May 26th 2010 at 11:43PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
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O Harry.......
Jeremiah 14:14 Then the LORD said to me, "The prophets are prophesying falsehood in My name. I have neither sent them nor commanded them nor spoken to them; they are prophesying to you a false vision, divination, futility and the deception of their own minds.
Wednesday, May 26th 2010 at 11:51PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
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Not trying to change the subject, but has anyone ever read Ron L. Hubbards book on Dianetics. I've only read a portion of it and I was amazed to see how a total facial transformation of a person can occur through the change of their thought processes. I never finished reading it before I loaned the book out to a friend and they never returned it
Thursday, May 27th 2010 at 1:26AM
Helen Lofton
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Hello Jamal,
You said this, “The bible was written for us, the children of slaves, as a mercy but was intercepted by white Jews and they changed much but not all of it.” and because you said this I asked you who wrote the Bible for Black Americans and when was it written?
Your answer was this, “What interest would we black Americans have in these stories of people if there were not parellels to we black Americans.” This answer of yours is indicative of how ignorant of a person and a people that we are. Your reply does not answer my question of who wrote the Bible for Black Americans and when was it written since you adamantly said that the Bible was written for Black Americans.
Jamal, you like all Black Americans lies, fabricates, deceives and gives out misleading information. It is one thing if you honestly do not know any better as in the case of Mr. Elijah Muhammad. Elijah did not know any better. He was an ignorant man and Mr. Fard Muhammad took advantage of his ignorance. However, when you are told the truth but continue on your track of disseminating erroneous information then that makes you a deliberate and deceitful man. Does that make any sense to you? Now, the bad part about it is that you have people like Mr. Amos Craig, Siebra Muhammad and others that tags on to your foolishness as you had tagged on to Mr. Elijah Muhammad’s foolishness. Since we are generally a people that cannot reason or think well we just follow the person that makes the most noise. We are a very ignorant people in much need of God help. We are a people that are not able to think in a straight line.
I know that you could not answer my question because the Bible is not our religious book of guidance. Therefore, your claim that the Bible was written for us is ignorant, misleading and entirely erroneous. The Bible is exactly what I said that it is. Jewish people wrote the Bible. It records the things that happened to the Jewish people for their future generations to know what happened to the Jewish people in the past.
Negroes are some mentally pathetic people. We have not mentally recuperated from the damages that slavery done to us. We need and we presently have the help of God through me. Everything that I say is true and will happen.
Our religious book is forthcoming. All religious books come into existence the same way, and that is, God anoints a prophet and the people of the prophet records the events of the time of how God helped them. The book is for the purpose of our future generations to read and understand how God help us in White America as the children of Israel were in trouble in Egypt in the times of Moses and God helped them. The same holds true for the Arabian people in the time of Prophet Mohammed and these events were recorded in the Holy Quran and left for the future generations of the Arabian people. It is just that simple to understand, and not complicated at all.
So, since you cannot answer who wrote the Bible for Black Americans I would not press you anymore. However, you should have the common sense to change your understanding about the Bible.
Tell me what you think.
Thursday, May 27th 2010 at 7:37AM
Harry Watley
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Hello Cynthia,
Cynthia I do not deny Jeremiah. However, Jeremiah was a Jewish prophet for the Jewish people.
We need to have the mindset that since God visited the Jewish people God could also visit Black Americans as well. Does that make sense to you?
If you believe that you could only reach God who the Bible of the Jewish people’s stories then inadvertently, you have allowed the Jewish people to sit on your head. I believe as God had visited the Jewish people and other people as well that God could also visit Black Americans the same, am I right.
If we could believe what I have just said then it is possible that some day we could have a Black American saying something in our forthcoming religious book as you so quoted it Jeremiah, am I right.
Think about what I am saying.
Tell me what you think.
Thursday, May 27th 2010 at 7:44AM
Harry Watley
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I allowed the Jewish people to sit on my head..... Now THAT'S FUNNY!!! HA! HA!
Wake up mann!!!
Thursday, May 27th 2010 at 6:08PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
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Harry, everything with you is forthcoming. You say forget the Bible because your book is forthcoming...but your comments are so absurd and non-factual my wonder is when will your brain come forth.....in order for you to think straight.
Friday, May 28th 2010 at 12:38AM
jamal Abraham
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Hello Cynthia,
You said this, “Wake up mann!!!”. Wake up to what, sweetheart! How am I to know what you are talking about if you do not fully explain yourself? I always explain myself.
This is what I said, “If you believe that you could only reach God through the Bible of the Jewish people’s stories then inadvertently, you have allowed the Jewish people to sit on your head. I believe as God had visited the Jewish people and other people as well that God could also visit Black Americans the same, am I right.”
So, if you firmly know that the Bible is the Jewish people’s testimony and you believe that you could reach God through the Bible then certainly the Jewish people is sitting on your head as I said since the Bible is their testimony. You do not know any better until now that I have explained it to you, am I right. Jamal does not know any better either since he believes that he could reach God through the Quran, which is the testimony of the Arabian people. Consequentially, we Black Americans are people without wisdom and understanding. For this reason, God had sent me to us.
To do for ourselves and have our own means everything. Consequentially, Jamal does not understand to do for ourselves and have our own excludes the Quran which belongs to the Arabian people. I have often times said to all of you that our religious book is forthcoming since I am Black America’s first genuine prophet. I am the one that will permanently correct our dilemma here in White America that our future children will live on a portion of this continent as sovereign people. Everything that I say is going to happen.
Likewise, Mr. Elijah Muhammad said we must have our own yet this ignorant man could not realize that having our own means not having the Quran as well. Am I making any sense with you?
Tell me what you think.
Friday, May 28th 2010 at 1:43AM
Harry Watley
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Hello Jamal,
You said this, “Harry, everything with you is forthcoming.”
Well, is it true that when Prophet Mohammed came on the scene he said the same thing about the holy Quran? Of course, he did since it was his companions after a while began to write down on parchment paper everything that he was saying and everything that was happening that later turned into the Quran, as we know it today.
Likewise, when Prophet Moses came on the scene he the same thing to his people that the Torah was forthcoming. His companions after a while wrote down everything that Moses was saying and in everything that was happening, which later became the Torah, am I right.
So how it is you do not understand what I am saying? I am Black America’s first genuine prophet. Consequentially, as time moves on what I am saying many Black Americans are going to come to latch on and begin to record everything that I am saying and the things that are going to happen that will become our religious book of guidance for our future generation to read.
Tell me what you think.
Friday, May 28th 2010 at 1:54AM
Harry Watley
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Helen, that sounds interesting; facial transformation through change in thought process. A more efficient approach way to thinking changing the facial lines due to doubt and rambling of thought....UmH....Umh
Perhaps, but will check out the book, sometime later
Friday, May 28th 2010 at 1:44PM
jamal Abraham
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