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This was originally posted on The Great Blog of Robert.

I've had a request and an amen to once again attempt a discussion of the word "race", a word we use rather indiscriminately. For reference:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of...

My thoughts.

In a nutshell, the words we use, by virtue of that use, condition the way we think, until we arrive at the point where we take a truth (or unproven) as a given.

A prime example is "race". A simple consideration might be if we were to take this word as inherent and counterproductive to the problem of "racism", and therefore discontinuing the use of the word might aid the discontinuance of racism?

Dedicated to Cynthia (Pre-Doctor-Philosopher) Artis
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Thursday, July 15th 2010 at 7:26AM
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Thank you Steve... but Racism (a different class of people/or a pattern of seeing people as different as us) is not only a word it's an action...

even if we remove the word.... the action is still present...
Thursday, July 15th 2010 at 7:53AM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
But action is predicated on thought, and the argument (in the logical sense) becomes: To what extent is thought predicated on language?

As I quoted on Jamal's Obvious Blog, from

http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Race_%28bio...

"...This idea that Homo sapiens consists of different subspecies called races, has been debunked as biology entered the era of molecular genetics and with the sequencing of the human genome. In general culture, the notion of distinct races characterized by a combination of geographic ancestry and particular physical features including hair texture, skin color, and facial features, remains widespread. It is often assumed by non-scientists that these races are still recognized as biologically distinct, as they were for a time in the past. In order to understand why this longstanding notion is no longer held to be valid by scientsts, certain background knowledge is required. That knowledge includes a basic understanding of vertebrate taxonomy, the history of the idea of "the races of man" in modern biology, and an introduction to the variability of the human genome. This article attempts to present that background, along with a contemporary view of how subspecies are defined in biology..."

"...Historically, there have been biological definitions of races. By the nineteenth century, western biologists separated human beings into various racial classifications under the assumption that there were distinct biological differences between them, similar to the differences between species, or subspecies. In fact, some biologists of that era argued that certain races of human beings were not the same species as other races. More recently, molecular genetic analysis has shown that there do not appear to be measureable genetic differences according to these classic racial groups. However, when populations of people are related, then they do tend to share certain forms of genes and other kinds of genetic markers. Some of these markers are particular sequences of nucleotides in DNA that are different in different people, and inherited by their offspring. These sequences, which include microsatellite DNA, are often so highly variable that they are therefore especially useful for looking for inherited relationships, even though these distinctively variable sequences do not code for proteins, as genes do. Genetic polymorphisms have been used to construct theoretical family trees of man, and to plot historical migrations according to where populations with shared polymorphisms appear. However useful these genetic markers are, they have not revealed the kinds of qualitative differences that were once assumed to be inherent features of human races, tribes, and ethnic groups by eugeneticists, sociologists and sociobiological theorists of the past..."

So if the meaning of "race", for biologists, has changed over the centuries until it is no longer even acknowledged as a valid scientific concept, what we have left is the old 18th century connotations, in current popular use.

There is no compelling reason to continue using the word. Other words are more suitable, such as "ancestry", "profiling", discrimination", etc.
Thursday, July 15th 2010 at 8:17AM
Steve Williams
Consider, does African Americans = Black Americans = Black Race (in America)?
Thursday, July 15th 2010 at 8:31AM
Steve Williams
Got to Be the Greatest Blog on BIA of All Time Steve,

or Greatest Proposal-----

You said,(on my weak blog attempt to give some courage to littleSiebra);

"In a nutshell, the words we use, by virtue of that use, condition the way we think, until we arrive at the point where we take a truth as a given.

A prime example is "race". A simple consideration might be if we were to take this word as inherent and counterproductive to the problem of "racism", and therefore discontinuing the use of the word might aid the discontinuance of racism?"

Now that, to me irma,

was steve---an American, saying a LOT.




Thursday, July 15th 2010 at 11:35AM
robert powell
UMM Steve I need to ponder on that one.... Because in my opinion, when you say a black race.... that's various people... west islanders, pacific islanders, haitaians, africans.... it's a broad rancge... I use various terminology to define my race... Im 7th descendent of African Slave.... I'm 2nd descendent from my 100% Cherokee father...

I just find it ironic that our race is the only race that has been labeled by and choosen by non-black/african/people of color. So as long as others choose who we are or what we should be called.... I chose not to label folks... other than what they deemed to be called... Does this make any sense?
Thursday, July 15th 2010 at 12:11PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Clark. I think the cat analogy is perfect. Now I am not denying differences. I am here on BIA for a reason, and Jamal has clarified for me my mission: To create a cadre of Computer Scientists, from among African American youth.
Thursday, July 15th 2010 at 3:33PM
Steve Williams
Honey Bee, it was my intent only to consider the term "black race" as used here in America.

I myself choose not to use the the word race as in black race or any other race. We all are free to choose.
Thursday, July 15th 2010 at 3:50PM
Steve Williams
Irma, if we are speaking of culture we can use the word culture.
Thursday, July 15th 2010 at 3:53PM
Steve Williams
Irma, when I was talking to my son about Oakland PD abuse, he named a list of the different ethnicities of his many friends, too long to remember let alone repeat here. He learned culture through interacting with cultures, not in the classroom.
Friday, July 16th 2010 at 5:49AM
Steve Williams
Clark thank you... Now lets go a step further Clark made a rather interesting point... Race, Culture, Linguistics..... "color" .. although brown skinned pigmentation... Jamacians are not classified as African Americans... I consider that an insult to omit or not acknowledge a ethnic group....
Friday, July 16th 2010 at 7:11AM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
True there are many African-American Jamaicans if we take America in its larger sense. Now you are having me go look at Jamaica. I'll be back.
Friday, July 16th 2010 at 7:28AM
Steve Williams
...Once a Spanish possession known as Santiago, in 1655 it became an English, and later a British colony, known as "Jamaica". It achieved full independence in 1962. With 2.8 million people, it is the third most populous anglophone country in the Americas, after the United States and Canada. It remains a Commonwealth realm with Queen Elizabeth II as Head of State. Kingston is the largest city in Jamaica and the country's capital.

...According to the 2001 census, Jamaica's population mainly consists of people of African descent (referring to those who have origins mainly from Africa), is 2.5 million. There is also a sizeable population of multiracial Jamaicans. Jamaicans of Indian and Chinese ancestry, the largest minority groups, total 160,000. Lebanese, Syrian, English, Scottish, Irish, and German Jamaicans make up around 3,000-4,000 people.[1] In recent years, immigration has increased, coming mainly from China, Haiti, Cuba, Colombia, and other Latin American countries; 20,000 Latin Americans currently reside in Jamaica. About 7,000 Americans also reside in Jamaica.[15][16][17]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamaica
Friday, July 16th 2010 at 8:03AM
Steve Williams
OK... but all are not considered... am I correct?
@ Irma.... My step-father calls himself... colored... he's 77 years old... so he lived during the King era when the phrase "colored negro" represented people of color... Because of the diversity of different ethnic backgrounds... why is so important to stake claim in a "racial identical category"? ((Im not trying to anger anyone... I just have that question... once I became a part of the diverse military association... I came in contact with many diverse groups .... and ethnicity was so far removed)...
Let me find Soso... He's canadian... Im sure he can add to this conversation
Friday, July 16th 2010 at 8:49AM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Steve, My Brother, now this is Scholarship of the Greatest Degree.

Friday, July 16th 2010 at 9:37AM
robert powell
I AGREE ROBERT ....now this is dialog for BIA
Friday, July 16th 2010 at 9:44AM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Thank you Steve Williams;; Now this is a blog , First from my own reading the word NEGRO had nothing to do with Black People I stand corrected if wrong from my understanding (believe) it was a term used by the Portuguese during the Colonial War to describe the Britts I’m not sure Can anyone help me on this????

Moving forward in the context of race this is one of the major problems we as African people,, in the 1970’ at one point we refer to ourselves as Black then came the 80’s Mid 90’s Collard People today it’s African American, I do agree Unfortunately, abolishing the use of the word race does not do the same for the practices (racism, bigotry)

Thanks Robert Powell for the statement (the words we use, by virtue of that use, condition the way we think) Now whether you’re a West Indian Jamaican , Haitian African American YOU ARE STILL AN African, We are the only people that chooses to reject who we are as African People and allow others to define who we are,, People we are Africans who happen to be American Jamaicans, West Indians, Haitians but nonetheless Africans, Think about it , For the Land that has given birth to Mathematics , Science, Medicine, Geometry, Music, I fail to understand why
Why we refuse to accept we are African

Just an example a Chinese born in America will identify himself as Chinese, NOT Chinese American unless otherwise politically motivated the same goes for Mexican, German,,, Even Herodotus the Greek historian who lived in the 5th century BC, when he landed in Africa he said in his memoire they are Beautiful the African has thick lips broad nose wholly hair and burnt of skin

African Unite

Friday, July 16th 2010 at 3:09PM
Sylvainy R
Wow!! Soso.... You make me feel MORE beautiful!!
Friday, July 16th 2010 at 3:15PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Hi Brother Clark Maxwell
thanks for the information as to where the word Negro came from, this is what I call education thanks my brother respect
Friday, July 16th 2010 at 4:04PM
Sylvainy R
Just food for thought In my opinion America is the capitol of the world nothing moves without the U.S.A, Fashion, Art, Music, and so forth Africans we could agree to disagree is the driving force behind the economy why because we are consumers not entrepreneur, in the 1940’s we owned 1% of America’s wealth in 2010 we own 1% of America’s wealth, the percentage may be a bit off but it’s still the same relative to then and now, There’s opportunity of us to come tougher and unite as African Here’s what I ( think)

Any trend that is started in America by black people whether Black Art, Dance, A hand Shake even the term African American, as simple as it sound it spread through the world like wild fire that’s how powerful Africans in the U.S.A are COULD YOU IMAGINE if we in North America could unite as African
As opposed to a RACE or West Indian African American or whatever could you imagine the powerful message that would send to the world??? COULD YOU

Friday, July 16th 2010 at 5:01PM
Sylvainy R
Actually the slave trade... as we all know started within African's using their fellow man to work off their depts... When the slave trade began... Slaves were used as only Indentured Servants.... During the Triangle Trade... that's when Europeans invaded... bringing in Female Horses for Trading of Africans... Europeans found that Africans were most resistant to the mosquitoes and could work on the rice plantations, tobacco fields for enduring hours.... They felt slavery was a useful commodity. With rise of the north and it's rise against slavery ... (because Northerns were more concerned with Industrializing a nation... the slaves wanted to florish in agriculture.... the division caused the "stop" to brining slaves into the US and that's when slaves were then used as "bucks" just for "breeding"......... That's the reason I find the use of the word by Harry highly offensive!
Friday, July 16th 2010 at 6:14PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
My Brother Robert, it would not have come about without the example of the Great Blog.
Friday, July 16th 2010 at 7:15PM
Steve Williams
Now the Great Blog is what it is by numbers, which reflects persistence in dialog of no holes.
Friday, July 16th 2010 at 7:25PM
Steve Williams
Hello to All,

May I join this dialogue?

Tell me what you think.

Friday, July 16th 2010 at 7:50PM
Harry Watley
please do... as long as you stick to the subject no preaching... this is not revival nite!
Friday, July 16th 2010 at 7:58PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Harry, I've been hoping to see you. I love especially when you give us something fresh.
Friday, July 16th 2010 at 8:15PM
Steve Williams
Steve... i tell you that jackazz is going to come out with some dumb stuff right of that dayum cabbage truck.... I know him....
Friday, July 16th 2010 at 9:26PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
There's always that possibility.
Friday, July 16th 2010 at 9:39PM
Steve Williams
you know it's true... quite a reality!!
Friday, July 16th 2010 at 9:44PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Hello to All,

I have read all of the posts. I would suggest that we get on the same page concerning the definition of race so we all could be in unison what race means.

We know that race do exist since the word (race) is in the dictionary, am I right.

I will offer my definition first, you all try to tear it apart, and if you cannot then I would respectfully ask that you agree with me. Is that reasonable?

Classification of modern humans based on any or a combination of various physical characteristics, as skin color, facial form, or eye shape.

A human population whose members share a greater degree of physical and genetic similarity with one another than with other humans.

In the traditional biological and anthropological systems of classification race refers to a group of persons who share such genetically transmitted traits as skin color, hair texture, and eye shape or color.

A collection of people with distinct physical characteristics that are passed on through reproduction.

All of these definitions define what race is.

Tell me what you think.






Friday, July 16th 2010 at 11:06PM
Harry Watley
Sylvainy Soso, thanks for coming by. I did some research based on your comments, in particular on African unity. I found one source that claimed one-third of the world population was of African descent. This was not backed up with any particulars however, but seemed rather to be tangential to a main motive other than understanding the numbers scientifically.

The quotes below seem to have more relevance.

"The African diaspora was the movement of Africans and their descendants to places throughout the world - predominantly to the Americas, then later to Europe, the Middle East and other places around the globe. The term is applied in particular to the descendants of the Black Africans who were enslaved and shipped to the Americas by way of the Atlantic slave trade, with the largest population in Brazil (see Afro-Brazilian). People of Sub-Saharan descent number at least 800 million in Africa and over 140 million in the Western Hemisphere, representing around 14% of the world's population.[1][2]"

Notice this refers to Sub-Saharan descent, a common division of Africans in the literature.

"Based on human genetics, it is widely believed that prehistoric Africans who left the continent within the past 100,000 years are the ancestors of all non-African humans. But as communities began to form, especially in Egypt and the Middle East, these migrations were greatly reduced because the only land route out of the African continent is through the Sinai Peninsula. Today, human genetic research suggests that mitochondrial DNA and Y chromosome haplotypes in Europeans and Asians have distant African ancestry. But these early migrations out of Africa are dwarfed by those associated with the Atlantic and Arab slave trades.[3]"

"Much of the African diaspora was dispersed throughout Europe, Asia, and the Americas during the Atlantic and Arab Slave Trades. Beginning in the 9th century, African slaves were taken from the northern and eastern portions of the continent into the Middle East and Asia. Then beginning in the 15th century, Africans were taken from much of the rest of the continent to Europe and later to the Americas. Both the Arab and Atlantic slave trades ended in the 19th century.[4]

The dispersal through slave trading represents one of the largest migrations in human history. The economic effect on the African continent was devastating. Some communities created by descendants of Black African slaves in Europe and Asia have survived to the modern day, but in other cases, blacks intermarried with non-blacks and their descendants blended into the local population. In the Americas, the confluence of multiple racial groups from around the world created a widespread mixing bowl effect. In Central and South America most people are descended from European, American Indian, and African ancestry. In Brazil, where in 1888 nearly half the population was descended from African slaves, the variation of physical characteristics extends across a broad range. In the United States, racist Jim Crow and anti-miscegenation laws maintained a distinction between racial groups. The adoption of the one drop rule defined anyone with any discernible African ancestry as African, even though the strictest application of that rule would categorize nearly all Americans as African.[3]"

In this last quote you will see the uncritical use of the term "racial groups", the subject of this blog.

From "African Diaspora" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_diasp...

Saturday, July 17th 2010 at 8:36AM
Steve Williams
Hello Harry,

Let's take your suggestion and see if we can "be in unison what race means".

You say first (paraphrasing) race is in the dictionary therefore race exists. This reminds me of "I think therefore I am" which is translation of cogito ergo sum. So it has some merit in that we now know that race is a word we're all familiar with, just like our own existence.

Before going further though I need you to clarify something. You say above "All of these definitions define what race is." But some appear to me to be at odds with your statement "Black Americans are a new race..."

Saturday, July 17th 2010 at 9:30AM
Steve Williams
Hello Irma,

You said this, “one can get me to claiim O. J. simpson as a member of my race and even Tiger Woods reject being classifies as Black race member…”

Physiology and mentality are entirely different from each other. Because a Black person thinks they are White, but in fact are Black the person has a mental issue.

What race you are is what race you are and that cannot change even if you think otherwise is my point.

Okay,


Saturday, July 17th 2010 at 9:56AM
Harry Watley
Harry, we agreed first to agree on the meaning of race.
Saturday, July 17th 2010 at 10:13AM
Steve Williams
Hello Steve,

You said this, “But some appear to me to be at odds with your statement "Black Americans are a new race..."

Well, I will step off on this foot. Black Americans did not exist before slavery, am I right.

Black Americans are a people of a mixture of Native American Indians, other kinds of Whites, but mainly Whites of English descent. In other words, Black Americans are a mixture of people if you will.

For instance, Black Americans has hair texture ranging from kinky, curly too straight hair. Black Americans has eye colors ranging from Brown, gray, hazel to slightly blue. Black Americans has nose ranging from straight, flat to broad. Am I making any sense with you?

The bottom line of what I am saying is that a Black American is a different person from a Chinese, Japanese or a White person is, racially speaking.

Tell me what you think.



Saturday, July 17th 2010 at 10:22AM
Harry Watley
Hello Clark,

You said this, “Genetics say what we are; race, as it is used says, in the minds of some, who we are.”

Yes, genetics, traits and heredity say what we is physiology speaking. Mentally who we think we are does not override who we are genetically speaking. It is a fact that a Chinese is a different person from a Nigerian, would you agree?

I want to stop this nonsense and move forward. Does or does not race exist? If race exist then let us put away this going back and forth nonsense. If it does not exist then show me that a Chinese person is precisely the same as a Nigerian.

Negroes are some very difficult people to reason with, since they complicates everything because they see everything complicated and they will argue about anything.

Tell me what you think.



Saturday, July 17th 2010 at 10:33AM
Harry Watley
Harry, the physical characteristics you describe allow for a black American to belong to a race other than Black American Race, by your definition No. 2 in your original comment.
Saturday, July 17th 2010 at 10:42AM
Steve Williams
look.... let's step into the biology... genetics.... every single person has chromosomes... 46 of them.... within those chromosomes are patters... of what our off spring with look like.... the out come will be boy or girl......

gene pooling or mixing of genes produces phenotypes... our outward appearances... it's still based on our parents genetic pattern...
Our President is a prime example His mother was white/european... father/african
mixing of the genes produced a african/european son....

Mrs. First lady is a direct descendent of slaves from both her by way of both of her parents ..
Saturday, July 17th 2010 at 1:21PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Steve is giving BIA new Scholarship --and plugging the "black"- hole of The Language of Philosophy and what language we get the word "race" from.

PreDr. Artis, is flowing with Eloquence, along with My Brother Clark and Mr. Soso.

However long it takes; You My brother Steve; have tackled a Worthy and Important Subject---

thank you all




Saturday, July 17th 2010 at 3:27PM
robert powell
Hello Steve,

You said this, “Harry, the physical characteristics you describe allow for a black American to belong to a race other than Black American Race, by your definition No. 2 in your original comment.”

Now, this is what number two says, “A human population whose members share a greater degree of physical and genetic similarity with one another than with other humans.”

Explain to me how a common average looking Black American could be mistaken for a Chinese person. For example, we have seen Clark, Amos or Jamal’s pictures. Explain how any one of these individual could be a common average looking Chinese person.

Tell me what you think.

Saturday, July 17th 2010 at 3:53PM
Harry Watley
Robert and Cynthia,

Both of you are outside the ballpark. Robert is not saying anything relevant. Cynthia we are past the chromosome phase. We are actually in conference now. Please keep up with the dialogue.

What say you?

Saturday, July 17th 2010 at 3:57PM
Harry Watley
Harry Im only trying to figure out where you are going... You are trying to make up some theory anoy new black americans.... which is not true....
Saturday, July 17th 2010 at 4:53PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
sorry steve, you know I hate to post a poster on someone elses BLOG--

but I have seen chinese near the border with cambodia that could be Your Relatives Harry.----

and Steve's present picture IS chinese-

chinese in Tibet remind me to chant---

least I forget; Chinese LOVE butterflies and shrimp--just like .....

What a language we have?




Saturday, July 17th 2010 at 5:56PM
robert powell
@ Soso... you said: "my opinion WE are NOT a Race we are African People " so does this place people of color within diffent Ethnic Classes rather than Racial Class...???
Saturday, July 17th 2010 at 7:28PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
This is very interesting... WE all see the word race and look at it differently... I believe I need more indept discussion.......

So are to agree at this moment there is only one Race. And that is the Human race?. Ethnicity is more closely tied into cultural values/traditions/ language and religion?
Saturday, July 17th 2010 at 7:39PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Or do we all agree that:
Race vs. Ethnicity
Race: a socially constructed category composed of people who share biologically transmitted traits that members of a society consider important.

Ethnicity: shared cultural heritage !

Saturday, July 17th 2010 at 7:42PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Hi Sister: Cynthia Merrill Artis
No it does not the European did that for us we as African just ran with it, as we seems to do when others categorize us an example of that, is the term Coloured people
When Fredrick Douglas went to Philadelphia where he was withdrawing from the American Colonization Society
Douglas supposed to have said, Gentle Men how you could call me a Black Man or an African, note: NOT (African American), When my mother is a Black Woman Note: NOT (African American), and my Father is a White Man Therefore I am COLOURED.. It was Henry Highland Garnet in his response
Yes Mr Douglas have you ever heard a Mule brag about his Father, He always speaks of his mother the Horse but never about his father the jack A12 You know what I mean

Saturday, July 17th 2010 at 8:26PM
Sylvainy R
UUUMMM ...bring your explanation down a notch I don't quite understand...
Saturday, July 17th 2010 at 8:51PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Hi Sister: Cynthia Merrill Artis
Some of us if not all of us live in a European Centered System as opposed to an African Centered System Thus whatever European choose to label us we just seem to accept it as thought we don’t know who we are
We are a people of African descent Not a Race of African descent
From the information I’ve gathered so far it was Fredrick Douglas Yes the Brother who used the term Coloured in reference to himself because he was mix
The term Coloured People spread from there hence one should always exercise caution when it comes to language that label
We have been called Bantu; Coon; Coloured People; Black People; Spook; Spade; Darkie; You name it we been called it all because of the word RACE as opposed to who we are African

Saturday, July 17th 2010 at 9:42PM
Sylvainy R
I follow... that makes sense.... I got it!!
I don't like the term "colored".... but as I stated earlier my step father uses the terminology.... 77yrs old.... so you know he's not going to change...
Saturday, July 17th 2010 at 10:11PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Hello to All,

I posted a blog that says Black Americans are some very ignorant people. Black Americans are not analytical people. Black Americans do not reason analytically speaking.

I have given one definition many different ways and we are slowly moving away from these definitions and into what is not race. For instance, we are moving into ethnicity, culture, beliefs and other bull****.

Could we get the hell back to the definition of race? The definitions are our guidelines. Without guidelines, we do come up with all sorts of bull****. Cynthia, Mr. Sylvainy and Robert are beginning to introduce bull****. If you cannot find anything wrong with the definitions that I had given then it makes all the sense in the world to proceed along those guidelines. Choose any one of the definitions that I gave and try to destroy. But, if you cannot then by all reasoning, you are supposed to accept it. So, let us stop the bull****ing.

My question to all of you is what makes up the differences between a Chinese person and a Nigerian person? Are they alike or are they different? If they are not alike then their differences is linked race. Now, if they are alike then there is no such thing as race.

Give me your answer!

Incidentally, Mr. Frederick Douglass did not realize that he a new breed or race of people that has emerged out of the ashes of slavery. He was neither African nor Caucasian. He was a Black American for now. When we become a sovereign people, we will have innate opportunity to invent name for what we are that the rest of the world will accept and add this new word today dictionaries.

Tell me what you think.

Sunday, July 18th 2010 at 1:26AM
Harry Watley
Harry, I'm afraid to entirely missed my point with you last comment addressed to me. I said nothing about Chinese. Let me try again, and think for a moment about Mr. Soso's assertion that you are African.

I can prove his assertion by using your definition No. 2, which you have accepted as true, and show it to be contrary to your assertion that Black Americans are a new race and therefore not African Americans. I can do this without the help of the Chinese.

I can find an African in Africa that looks like you, and therefore by your definition No. 2 you and that African person are of the same race.
Sunday, July 18th 2010 at 7:36AM
Steve Williams
Please remember we are using YOUR definitions, and it is not to be construed that I believe race has any positive modern meaning. I will continue to show you that the word race is practically without meaning, should you refuse to accept the above logic.
Sunday, July 18th 2010 at 7:42AM
Steve Williams
And Harry no need to come on Steve's BLOG of Substance and act like a Jackazz trying to place a diversion towards your BULL****!!

Good morning Poppie... Your honey bee is thinking about you :-0 !!
Sunday, July 18th 2010 at 9:51AM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Good Morning Honey Bee! I see you had a productive exchange with Sylvainy Soso. In particular I think this statement of his very meaningful: "We are a people of African descent Not a Race of African descent". Ethnicity comes from the Ancient Greek "ethnos", which means "a people". The quote from Herodotus given by Sylvainy probably uses this word, but all my Greek texts are buried in storage so I can't say for sure.

Harry becomes frustrated at times, we will patiently teach Logic.
Sunday, July 18th 2010 at 10:16AM
Steve Williams
ok we will go slow and take kiddie steps with him.....Harry
Sunday, July 18th 2010 at 10:39AM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Main Entry: race
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle French, generation, from Old Italian razza
Date: 1580

1 : a breeding stock of animals
2 a : a family, tribe, people, or nation belonging to the same stock b : a class or kind of people unified by shared interests, habits, or characteristics
3 a : an actually or potentially interbreeding group within a species; also : a taxonomic category (as a subspecies) representing such a group b : breed c : a category of humankind that shares certain distinctive physical traits
4 obsolete : inherited temperament or disposition
5 : distinctive flavor, taste, or strength

These definitions from http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/...

Some things we should notice:

The etymology of the word dates to European language.

The original meaning is definition 1.

Definitions 2a, 3a, and 3b apply the original meaning to include humans through old European scientific thought, now proven false.

Because it's been proven false to apply this word to humans, it should be seen as obsolete. It's continued use is detrimental in that it is anti-science.
Sunday, July 18th 2010 at 10:41AM
Steve Williams
3 (C):a category of humankind that shares certain distinctive physical traits

THAT'S THE HUMAN RACE.... everone share those characteristics...
therefore we use or use of the term such as korean race, white race, black race, puerto rician race? Right Steve?

Sunday, July 18th 2010 at 10:55AM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
We can also say Koreans, Whites, Blacks, and Peurto Ricans. White and Black are for further consideration when we move on from race to racism.
Sunday, July 18th 2010 at 11:07AM
Steve Williams
Hello Steve,

You said this, your definition No. 2, which you have accepted as true, and show it to be contrary to your assertion that Black Americans are a new race and therefore not African Americans. I can find an African in Africa that looks like you, and therefore by your definition No. 2 you and that African person are of the same race.

Perhaps you may find an African to look like me. However, the African is not me since I am a Black American. Why I would be different from this African person is that in the African ancestry tree White Americans are not present while in the ancestry tree of Black Americans White Americans are ever so present, am I right.

Tell me what you think.


Sunday, July 18th 2010 at 12:06PM
Harry Watley
Harry, I believe that dark skinned and light skinned unions (s*xual) and progeny are to be found in Africa. And I didn't know that we were using country of birth as part of our definition of race. Are we?
Sunday, July 18th 2010 at 12:50PM
Steve Williams
Hi Harry
As hard as it is for me to do this I’ll try come down to your level of thinking and use your RAT theory you’ve mentioned in the past, Now if a black rat mates with a white rat and they produce babies what would YOU call the babies

And be reminded you still owe the black woman an apology

Sunday, July 18th 2010 at 12:51PM
Sylvainy R
For example, is a child born in America, born of parents who were both born in China (and who look like you expect Chinese to look), is that child of the Chinese race or what?
Sunday, July 18th 2010 at 1:05PM
Steve Williams
Harry, I saw a young girl at the buffet last week, who had Asian facial features and dark skin. I didn't see her parents (or whoever she was with) as they were sitting behind us and I was facing the buffet where I could watch her come back for plate after plate of food! I didn't know what to make of her except she was absolutely beautiful.
Sunday, July 18th 2010 at 1:18PM
Steve Williams
Hello Cynthia,

I believe that you have misunderstood what 3 (C):a category of humankind that shares certain distinctive physical traits is saying.

In humankind there are many different categories (races), but of one category (Korean race) shares certain distinctive physical traits that other categories does not share, which would make Korean people racially different from Nigerian people. What I have just explain is what 3 (C) is saying.

Tell me what you think.



Sunday, July 18th 2010 at 2:06PM
Harry Watley
right on the button brother Clark Maxwell
Sunday, July 18th 2010 at 2:08PM
Sylvainy R
Clark, It is problematic culturally and also economically. Which is to say it obscures the economic reality of a class system that uses the "idea" of race to place blame and divert responsibility.
Sunday, July 18th 2010 at 2:19PM
Steve Williams
Harry read Big Mann's comment again...right there above yours.... o tay
Sunday, July 18th 2010 at 2:26PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
ok.... linguistically I KNOW I'VE GOT IT!! So tell me what's wrong with the phrase "People of Color" which was pinned by some of the most intellectuals... Dr C West? and of course this includes me! I like the phrase!
Sunday, July 18th 2010 at 2:36PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Hello Mr. Sylvainy,

You ask the question that, if a black rat mates with a white rat and they produce babies what would you call the babies.

I would say the babies are interracial if there are 15 of 20 babies. However, if the breeding is done to the black rats by the male white rats over a period of 300 years, which kept the white rats pure then what were black rats, originally becomes a new breed or race of rats. Am I making any sense with you?

In other words, the Africans that came from Africa over 300 years White males bred themselves with these African slave people, which change the dynamics of everything that the people you have today (Black Americans) are a new breed or race of people that has emerged out of the ashes of slavery.

Have I made any sense with you?

Tell me what you think.





Sunday, July 18th 2010 at 2:45PM
Harry Watley
Harry, you asked of us to tear your definition apart. You have yet to answer specific questions I addressed to you to clarify your definition. I am trying to pin down your definition. Please reread my comments above, identify and answer the questions posed. Then we can move forward after our agreed upon definition of race.

Please don't make me repeat myself, I don't believe my questions are difficult to understand. In fact they are very easy steps to our common goal of understanding, the meaning of race.
Sunday, July 18th 2010 at 3:03PM
Steve Williams
Hello to All,

Clark said that race might be used to denote the political, ethnicity and the culture of a people.

Let me remind all of you again. When we use these words political, cultural and ethnicity we are moving away from what is tangible to what is in tangible. Politics if you will is intangible. Traits and genetics, which is physical is tangible. We are trying to pin down the differences between people that justify the use of the word race, am I right. Therefore, let us stick to what is tangible. Traits, characteristics, features and genetics a tangible.

For instance, we need to stick to what defines race. Race is the genetics, traits, heredity and features that are ever so present in on people, but not present in one group of people. Blue eyes and blonde hair is not as pronounced in Black Americans as it is in White Americans. Consequentially, Black Americans and White Americans are racially different people. It is nothing wrong to be racially different. We speak of diversity every day, but now you knuckleheads are denying race and diversity.

Do you all not think that a Korean person know the differences between themselves and a Japanese person? Do you think that you could put a few Korean, Japanese, Chinese, Vietnamese and Cambodians in a large room and shuffled all the people around as you shuffle a deck of cards and when you stop, the Koreans would not know that they are different from Japanese? Are you all out of your damn minds?

What say you?


Sunday, July 18th 2010 at 3:04PM
Harry Watley
Hello Cynthia,

What would I be looking for if I read big Mann post again if you do not point out to me where I am wrong in the first place? Do you not have enough common sense to realize that if you do not point out what I should be looking for nine out of 10 times I am going to walk away with the same opinion?

So be analytical and point out what I should be looking for, okay!

What say you?

Sunday, July 18th 2010 at 3:09PM
Harry Watley
Hello Steve,

You ask this question, “For example, is a child born in America, born of parents who were both born in China (and who look like you expect Chinese to look), is that child of the Chinese race or what?”

The answer is no. Your birthplace does not determine who or what you are. Your heredity, traits and genetics are not in the real estate of the country that you were born in as they are in the people themselves unless you are a native of that country.

Tell me what you think.


Sunday, July 18th 2010 at 3:19PM
Harry Watley
Harry Im about to kick ur jackazz out of the sand box.... stop acting so simple ok!
Sunday, July 18th 2010 at 3:21PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Harry, if I understand your answer correctly, this child born in America of Chinese parents would then be of the American race?
Sunday, July 18th 2010 at 4:12PM
Steve Williams
Hello Steve,

You said this, “Harry, if I understand your answer correctly, this child born in America of Chinese parents would then be of the American race?”

Steve, what is the American race? Are you talking about White American people that are descendents of Britain?

Tell me what you think.

Sunday, July 18th 2010 at 5:04PM
Harry Watley
Here comes again the Simple Jackazz.... Why r u trying to add confusion?
Sunday, July 18th 2010 at 5:06PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Hello Cynthia,

It seems to me that you are not going to point out what I should be looking for and therefore, I should just leave it alone.

What say you?

Sunday, July 18th 2010 at 5:06PM
Harry Watley
Harry
I was wondering how long it was going to take before you start with your nonsense, It seems to me you have a limited ability to communicate you live within the circle of your own awareness thus making you completely inept


Harry you are emotionally attaché to your imagination with the idea you’ve created in your mind with respect to the aforementioned dissection on this blog
I’ll ask of you a favour please take a few minutes and re-read your response to me with respect to the black and white rat, Harry the world does not revolve around you Africans do not revolve around you and I guarantee you your
(Black Americans) NEW BREED RACE or whatever you choose to call yourselves surely dose NOT REVOLVE AROUND YOU, take a breather Harry and read what you write you may surprise yourself just try it

Sunday, July 18th 2010 at 6:04PM
Sylvainy R
Harry, I guess if you are asking me what is the American Race then you would seem not to believe in such a thing. That's a start. But you do believe in a Black American Race. So the difference must be if you are a descendant of slaves. If you are not then your race is of the country of your ancestors. But otherwise the country of your birth.

I think you cannot explain what race is, without a myriad of contradictions.
Sunday, July 18th 2010 at 7:26PM
Steve Williams
True Clark. The next part of this blog is the meaning of racism. I think it's time to move on. Harry will have to keep up as best he can.
Sunday, July 18th 2010 at 7:30PM
Steve Williams
ok.... racisim (my definition) is a personal outward/inward against a certain group of people... in which they are treated unfairly/disrespectfully. It is a taught behavior!
Sunday, July 18th 2010 at 7:34PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
children have no knowledge of prejudices until this form of behavior is taught to them
Sunday, July 18th 2010 at 7:36PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Steve,
wow, "It's continued use is detrimental in that it is anti-science."

Your are finishing up Your Masterpiece with a stroke of the pen.

but Harry, have you said that interbreeding 300 years means that there is a new people,---not african american, not european american, not 'black' american, not 'white' american, not native american; ---- just American!---

am I analytically reasoning your thought properly?


Sunday, July 18th 2010 at 8:15PM
robert powell
Racism is a thought behaviour If you ask a person why he/she is racist chances are they can’t give you an honest answer, No child is born a racist it’s a thought emotion, However and there’s a however when it and don’t take my word for it,,,,,, It starts with the Bible The bestselling book of all time go check it out
Sunday, July 18th 2010 at 10:30PM
Sylvainy R
Saint Jake... Luvn it.... But slow your role..... bring it down a notch for this sista!!.. DRINKING BLOOD.......YUK... please tell me it aint so.... isn't that what the drakes use to do before they went into battle???

@Soso.... Racisim is not just a thought behavior.... it's taught.... think back in history... when whites would hang slaves... these men would place their children on their shoulders and watch..... just like the beininng of the cololonial period when folks would tar and feather their own!!


Coming from the north and migrating to the south.... I heard many expressions; racial comments made to me.... That I had to question.... I never thought of this behavior... Was never exposed to this behavior until I move to the south...or not old enough to recognize it until I got older. And the first thing I could remember asking was why?
Sunday, July 18th 2010 at 10:55PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Im not Halle Berry light.... but I have worked in two companies where they had to exercise their EEOC responsibilities... I worked in Savannah at the Public Library and the first think I was told.... I can't believe they hired a Sista!!

My Present job.... I am the ONLY black female and truth betold.... There was another female up for the position I now hold... She didn't get the job! But I was told later... They had to hire a double minority....

Then to add insult to injury.... my brother whom is dark skinned... ((works with me)) was being questioned regarding our parents.... because of skin color!!
Sunday, July 18th 2010 at 11:02PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Hello to All,

Let me show you all how ignorant you all are. You all now want to move into what racism is and at the same time deny that there is no such thing as race.

Steve said this, “True Clark. The next part of this blog is the meaning of racism. I think it's time to move on. Harry will have to keep up as best he can.“

A bunch of dummies surrounds me.

Knuckleheads, is it not true that the word racism comes out of the word race? Is it not true that the word ignorant comes out of the word ignored and the word ignoring means that you voluntarily do not want to know? Therefore, we get the word ignorant.

Now tell me how in the hell you all could talk about racism but denies there is such a thing as race. Are you all stupid?

It baffles me to understand how all you all could discuss racism but at the same time says there is no such thing as race. Are you all real?

Tell me what you think.





Sunday, July 18th 2010 at 11:03PM
Harry Watley
Brother Saint Jake If I may call you brother please allow me to raise your level of conscience
Galatians 4:22-24 (King James Version)
For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
Which things is an allegory
Brother Saint Jake an allegory means its a story that did not happen, Abraham who never existed had 3 sons with an Egyptian woman name Hagar they were Ishmael Shem I cant remember the other name however
Ishmael became the father of the Arabs (remember it’s an allegory according to the bible)
Now THINK Abraham did not exist which means Isaac didn’t did not exist which means that Jacob didn’t exists which means that there’s no twelve tribes of Israel which means there’s no tribe of Judah which means there’s no Lion of the Tribe of Judah Which we call Jesus
This means if you cut off the root of the tree the branch don’t exists

Sunday, July 18th 2010 at 11:08PM
Sylvainy R
Furthermore Mr Saint Jake Africa was not called Africa the original name was (Elkabuland spelling of the name may be wrong ) that’s the name the indigenous People of African called it until the European envision
Sunday, July 18th 2010 at 11:18PM
Sylvainy R
Hello Mr. Sylvainy and Saint Jake,

What do exist is Black Americans since we can see and feel each other, am I right.

Black Americans are a new breed or race of people that came into existence when White America bred themselves with the African slave people they purchased from the slave traders.

Black Americans has nothing to do with any of that nonsense that you all are talking about, am I right again.

Tell me what you think.

Monday, July 19th 2010 at 12:05AM
Harry Watley
Englighten me Brotha's.... They didn't teach me this in African American History (smile.........lol)
Monday, July 19th 2010 at 12:15AM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Noooooo!!!! Not u Harry
Monday, July 19th 2010 at 12:16AM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
@Harry.... they became enslaved MULATOS!!!
Monday, July 19th 2010 at 12:18AM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Hello to All,

Let me show you all how ignorant you all are. You all now want to move into what racism is and at the same time deny that there is no such thing as race.

Steve said this, “True Clark. The next part of this blog is the meaning of racism. I think it's time to move on. Harry will have to keep up as best he can.“

A bunch of dummies surrounds me.

Knuckleheads, is it not true that the word racism comes out of the word race? Is it not true that the word ignorant comes out of the word ignored and the word ignoring means that you voluntarily do not want to know? Therefore, we get the word ignorant.

Now tell me how in the hell you all could talk about racism but denies there is such a thing as race. Are you all stupid?

It baffles me to understand how all you all could discuss racism but at the same time says there is no such thing as race. Are you all real?

Tell me what you think.

Monday, July 19th 2010 at 12:36AM
Harry Watley
Clark, Thank You for your wonderful, comprehensive and accurate exposition!
Monday, July 19th 2010 at 6:50AM
Steve Williams
Irma, I would agree, the meaning of race is entirely subjective.
Monday, July 19th 2010 at 6:52AM
Steve Williams
Harry, all of us except you and St. Jake appear to accept that race has no objective reality. We can explore the word racism just like we explored the word race, as it derives from race and our understanding of race necessarily influences our understanding of racism. Okay?
Monday, July 19th 2010 at 6:59AM
Steve Williams
Clark, what to do about once we see it is really about class? I'm finding this interesting, and radical, reading: http://www.revcom.us/a/144/BNQ-en.html

The page I found it on, along with other publications, is at: http://revcom.us/rcp-e.htm
Monday, July 19th 2010 at 7:16AM
Steve Williams
I found these pages while looking for activists for Oscar Grant. You will find an article on him in their current issue.
Monday, July 19th 2010 at 7:18AM
Steve Williams
Saint Jake, I assume you meant to say Abraham not Moses?
Monday, July 19th 2010 at 7:33AM
Steve Williams
Good Morning Sweetie.... Your Honey Bee is off to work!!
Monday, July 19th 2010 at 7:44AM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Clark, I was mistaken, the Oscar Grant story is in Revolution #207, under previous issues.
Monday, July 19th 2010 at 7:45AM
Steve Williams
Good Morning Honey Bee! Me too, out in the hot sun again. Have a good day, I'll talk to you later.
Monday, July 19th 2010 at 7:47AM
Steve Williams
Saint Jake

No disrespect, but please forgive me However I think you miss the point,, According to the So-called bible the story of Abraham, is an (Allegory)
So regardless of how many son’s the bible says he had is irrelevant, Again Abraham did not exists, Just like (Santa)

Again Abraham did not exists which means the So-called six sons of Abraham did not exist is an (Allegory) even the Bible EDOMITE (so-called Whiteman term). said so
Now Ishmael the (So-called son) of Abraham and Hagar became an Arab / Muslim, And even today every Arab and Muslim will tell you they are the descendent of Ishmael who did NOT exist
Don’t take MY WORD for it, please do the research


Abraham did not exist which means Isaac didn’t did not exist which means that Jacob didn’t exist which means that there’s no twelve tribes of Israel which means there’s no tribe of Judah which means there’s no Lion of the Tribe of Judah Which the linage of the so-called Jesus This means if you cut off the root of the LIE the tree and branch don’t exists


No offense to anyone, once we as African people understand the Psychology behind the entire bible We’ll understand why we are the way we scriptures has NO validity,
It is all faith and belief base, and faith is a belief in unverified thought and the bible is a religious book and all religion is based on faith and belief because they cannot prove none of it


The bible has a whole is one of the most raciest book we can find and yet it’s the number 1 bestseller of all time it’s in almost every house hold, don’t take my word for it read ir with an open mind
Man know Thyself

Monday, July 19th 2010 at 10:41AM
Sylvainy R
The Philosophy of Language---

Steve has used Historical Scholarship to start this writing---dictionary, books, recorded items Most men and women use in their lives the World Over for Centuries...

it is hijacked by harry---NO Scholarship or Proof at all----a cartoonProphet

it is hijacked by saintSiebraJake--NO Scholarship or Proof at all----a cartoonEdomite

it is now interjected by soSo---"Again Abraham did not exists, Just like (Santa)"---I wish he had said littleAbraham.

One stereotype of the African of slave descent is that they """"love cartoons""""--

Steve does not have a TV, so he doesnt even watch Cartoons----I do like mighty mouse, but I do not think it has been on TV for 20-30 years.

negros, stop the stereotype, the Preamble of BIA is to smash Stereotypes and Misconceptions.

think, learn and respond Intelligently......For Americas Sake




Monday, July 19th 2010 at 11:51AM
robert powell
Thank you Robert..... We will... think learn and respond intelligently... (smile)
Monday, July 19th 2010 at 1:07PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Soso?? No Abraham and Issac and Jacob and and ancestor of the tribes of Israel, named after his descendants????????? Soso is this so???
Monday, July 19th 2010 at 1:13PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Hi Brother Robert powell

It was not my intention grammatically connect or to interrupt the conversation, my intention to show how Racism is even used in the biblical context and how society as a whole use this to keep African people suppress

So my brother if you feel I interjected anything other than the aforementioned topic please accept my apology as I thought I was keeping with the trend

Monday, July 19th 2010 at 1:14PM
Sylvainy R
No Soso.... That's not what Robert said.... lol

Monday, July 19th 2010 at 1:46PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Hi Cynthia Merrill Artis

It is so what I don’t want is for anyone to take my word for it please check it out for yourself, Hence when you are challenge by anyone, even a Minister from any denomination I guarantee you my sister you’ll have legs to stand on, If you read the Israelite Chronology starting 1480 BC it’s impossible for Abraham to have existed, According to Historians The archaeological evidence for much of the history of the Old Testament is shaky—archaeologists are divided about whether the evidence supports the Exodus, the Israelite campaign against Canaan, and other key points of Biblical history. And anytime somebody claims to have find archaeological evidence for a miraculous item or event like Noah’s Ark or the Resurrection, the evidence turns out to be mistaken or fabricated. If the Bible’s account of history were really true, there would be definitive evidence for it. And there’s none

You can research--- The Book Of coming Forth By Day and Night,---- The Negative Confession, and you’ll see how these story came into being and how they were Plagiarized by the Europeans and still they got it wrong don’t take my word for it check out

Monday, July 19th 2010 at 2:31PM
Sylvainy R
Sylvainy, it is true there is no corroborating history for the early parts of the Old Testament until Kings and Chronicles. There is only one ancient historical document that mentions John the Baptist and Jesus, Plutarch I believe.

The old Testament definitely seeks to justify Israel as God's chosen, and much of the "history" was written after the fact, such as Jerusalem being the place God chose (written as a prophesy) and much was written after the Captivity.

There is much allegory that can be of help to us today, such as the Family of Adam, which as Robert continues to tell us is one, and not to be divided.

I personally think there is the possibility that extraterrestrial intervention accounts for some, at least, of the stories. Like when three gods visited and were entertained by Abraham
Monday, July 19th 2010 at 4:55PM
Steve Williams
Was it N-word or the fighting word that was used?
Monday, July 19th 2010 at 6:12PM
Steve Williams
@SOSO.....WOW!! Truth is I am a seeker of truth... and I do love reading.... But to be honest... what you are telling me is way down deep.... Needless to say, I have always been told to be careful with the King James Version... and I have branched out to many different bibles... As a Catholic the apocryphal ... stories of Torbit, Baruch, and other canonical readings.... Im reading the Lost Scriptures inbetween time..... Im just ... I don't know... most of it is so far removed from what I have been taught.... That's why I try not to subscribe or identify with any man made religion. But I am curious and always want to learn more. I will be taking Philosophy and Ethics next semester so I know... I am going to be introduced to alot of the different beliefs and teachings.... Im open to discussing more.....
Monday, July 19th 2010 at 6:15PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
How was your day Steve... Did you remember to take precautions out there in the sun like I asked you?
Monday, July 19th 2010 at 6:23PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Lots of Gatoraid and breaks when needed. And you aced your test, didn't you?
Monday, July 19th 2010 at 6:33PM
Steve Williams
I did... Proud of me?
Monday, July 19th 2010 at 6:50PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
when I got to class... He said that he decided to go ahead an scale our grades.. so he added 10 points to all of our papers.... that helped me alot!
Monday, July 19th 2010 at 7:01PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Hello to All,

Moses 4000 years ago instituted the celebration of the Passover as mentioned in the book of Exodus.

Today the Jews in the state of Israel celebrate this Passover just as Moses started it 4000 years ago.

Now, where did the Jews of today get this Passover ritual celebration from since there are no corroborating records of the Old Testament?

Is not the Passover celebration a record of itself that would trump any archaeology findings or lack of findings?

In addition, there are records that Jesus celebrated the ritual Passover 2000 years ago in 2000 years from Moses, am I right. Where did Jesus get the notion to celebrate the Passover if there are no corroborating records of the Passover?

Is not the Passover celebration a record of itself that if any of you go to Tel Aviv, Israel this year you will observe the Jews celebrating the Passover just as Moses had instituted it 4000 years ago. Tell me if I am wrong or right because I have an IQ of 68 while the rest of you are heavy hitters. You all make laugh.

Tell me what you think.



Monday, July 19th 2010 at 7:27PM
Harry Watley
Proud yes, and more... Professor had to scale, you earned what you got.
Monday, July 19th 2010 at 7:28PM
Steve Williams
Cynthia, Robert is preparing for Ramadan. We have a few more days of his present.
Monday, July 19th 2010 at 7:32PM
Steve Williams
Hello to All,

How are you all going to discuss racism, but do not acknowledge that groups of people are racially different, which gave rise to the word RACE?

If this is not backwards thinking then I do not know what else is. I have never witnessed such ignorance and dumbness in my life.

What say you all?

Monday, July 19th 2010 at 7:32PM
Harry Watley
How long is Ramadan?
Monday, July 19th 2010 at 7:48PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
go to bed Harry
Monday, July 19th 2010 at 7:51PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
One month. Starts August 1 this year I believe.
Monday, July 19th 2010 at 8:50PM
Steve Williams
Harry, I told you how we are going to discuss racism. I'll give you an example soon. But right now I'm going to take Cynthia's advice for you myself.
Monday, July 19th 2010 at 8:54PM
Steve Williams
Hi Cynthia Merrill Artis
Wishing you well with Philosophy and Ethics next semester personally I love Philosophy it makes you think
And yes you will be introduced to different beliefs system however keep in mind the proff got what you want,,,,( that is the certificate) I’ve learned sometimes I must keep my intellect on Ice
Having said that the King James Version of the bible or any other bible for that matter, are all religious books, And all religion are faith and belief base and faith and belief are Mechanism put in place to control the mass The truth my sister is buried deep they don’t want us to know the truth

Monday, July 19th 2010 at 9:09PM
Sylvainy R
Soso.... .... Cynthia ok....
OK... so tell me this... where do I begin uncovering the truth?
Monday, July 19th 2010 at 10:18PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Hi Sister Cynthia Merrill Artis
LOL it’s funny you should ask I’m re-reading it right this second A good book to start with is call
The Age Of Reason,,, The Author is Thomas Paine,,, ISBN O=8065-0549-4 Written December 23rd 1793
Not sure if still in print easy reading but the perfect place to start with respect to the bible

Monday, July 19th 2010 at 10:54PM
Sylvainy R
Hi Sis you can read it on line
heres the link
http://www.infidels.org/library/historical...
Monday, July 19th 2010 at 11:17PM
Sylvainy R
thank you!! Im going to look through it.....
Monday, July 19th 2010 at 11:38PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Harry, would you call this an example of racism?

"Almighty God seeks to destroy the homos*xuals. It is good that they come out of the closet so the target can be set on who needs the FIRE. They are a disgrace to our race and an abomination to humanity. The homos*xuals and gays should be rounded up and be allowed to live like the American Indians on a reservation away from normal society so that cannot infect others with their disgusting behavior."
Tuesday, July 20th 2010 at 6:34AM
Steve Williams
"Racism is the lowest, most crudely primitive form of collectivism. It is the notion of ascribing moral, social or political significance to a man's genetic lineage -- the notion that a man's intellectual and characterological traits are produced and transmitted by his internal body chemistry. Which means, in practice, that a man is to be judged, not by his own character and actions, but by the characters and actions of a collective of ancestors."

"Racism claims that the content of a man's mind (not his cognitive apparatus, but its content) is inherited; that a man's convictions, values and character are determined before he is born, by physical forces beyond his control. This is the caveman's version of the doctrine of innate ideas -- or of inherited knowledge -- which has been thoroughly refuted by philosophy and science. Racism is a doctrine of, by and for brutes. It is a barnyard or stock-farm version of collectivism, appropriate to a mentality that differentiates between various breeds of animals, but not between animals and men."

"Like every form of determinism, racism invalidates the specific attribute which distinguishes man from all other living species: his rational faculty. Racism negates two aspects of man's life: reason and choice, or mind and morality, replacing them with chemical predestination."

Excerpts from Racism by Ayn Rand. See more at:

http://freedomkeys.com/ar-racism.htm


Tuesday, July 20th 2010 at 7:35AM
Steve Williams
Harry this might be a good article for discussion to focus the issues. Tell me what you think.

"The Tea Party must purge racism from its ranks"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...

Tuesday, July 20th 2010 at 8:01AM
Steve Williams
Good Morning My brother : Steve Williams Thanks for sharing this link with BIA on the Excerpts from Racism by Ayn Rand, One word WOW
Tuesday, July 20th 2010 at 8:59AM
Sylvainy R

Hello Steve,

You asked this question, “Harry, would you call this an example of racism?” and you are referring to a statement that Jamal said on Ms. Jen’s blog, am I right.

Jamal statement is not racism but I understand where you were coming from if you will. Racism specifically is linked to race irrespective to the homos*xuals and lesbians in that specific race. Jamal is prejudice against homos*xuals and lesbians regardless of their race. Therefore, Jamal’s statement is not racism.

However, the point that I am making is that you all has to be idiots to discuss racism and at the same time say that there is no such thing as race. The root word of racism is race. Race is the hereditary, genetics, traits and features of one group of people that another group of people does not have. Instead, that other group of people has their own distinctive genetics and traits. There is no way you could say there is no such thing as race and precede to discuss racism without being idiots. If my rationale is wrong then you have the opportunity to knock me down.

Incidentally, Steve are you homos*xual?

What say you?



Tuesday, July 20th 2010 at 9:23AM
Harry Watley
Hello to All,

Mr. Sylvainy gave Cynthia a book to read concerning uncovering the truth in reference to the Bible.

Steven gave a book written by Ayn Rand concerning Racism.

While I do not discourage other people’s opinions about any matter, I want you all to understand that these books are the views of the author whether right or wrong.

Therefore, what I am saying to you all is that at some point you all must have a position and your position should be independent of any bias, which would include the books that you have read. Am I making any sense with you all? So, when you have decided upon a position make sure that position cannot be toppled, okay. I want you all to rationalize as if though there were no books around. If you will imagine that, you are learning for the first time, which would require you to use every ounce of your brain to explain your position. Therefore, you have to make sure every part of your position is sound and not base on someone else’s views. Unless, the person views has been check and recheck that when you speak you will speak as though these are your facts and you stand firm on them. Often times when I questioned people they tell me, well that is what the Bible says. Or, they will say that is what my pastor said. However, what I am asking them is what they say.

I guess what I am saying is this the only true source of information should come from what is natural. What are natural is what God has provided and not what the man says.

For instance, the Bible speaks of the great flood of Noah. The Christian ministers support it as it is literally written. The Bible says that the whole earth was flooded and gave you how high the water rose. Now, suppose that there are 10 gallons of water on earth and the Bible says the water rose X number of cubic feet. When you calculate the size of the earth and how high the water rose and it amounts to 20 gallons of water then you should know that something is wrong. At that moment, it is your obligation being an analytical person to figure out what is wrong since the calculation does not pan out. Do you get my drift? Consequentially, you are going to answer for what you believe and what you think irrespective to what an author says in his books.

Tell me what you think.


Tuesday, July 20th 2010 at 10:03AM
Harry Watley
Hello Steve,

Yes! The Tea Party are racists since they have signal out a specific group of people, colored people (Black Americans who are descendents of slaves) if you will since Black Americans are racially different from them. Consequentially, they inadvertently acknowledge that people are racially different which you all say race do not exist.

What say you?

Tuesday, July 20th 2010 at 10:10AM
Harry Watley
uuummm.... and your views? Harry?????
Tuesday, July 20th 2010 at 10:13AM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Harry I’ll Tell you what I think: Based on what you’re saying you don’t read or you can’t read. And to quote you (I guess what I am saying is this the only true source of information should come from what is natural. What are natural is what God has provided and not what the man) you are one ignorant Jackass that even if you see your mane in alphabet soup you will not recognize it, For everyone on BIA with the exception of Harry I apologies for my language

Harry you have proven my point you are what I call a parrot you only have the ability to repeat what you hear and I base this on your comment to Cynthia and myself, You keeping saying the bible is not Black American book of whatever other ideological stupidity you’re trying to force upon the less informed if don’t refer to or use it ( bible) as a reference to anything

Knowledge Harry is POWER,,, And that kind of POWER cannot be taken away Hence your comment sounds as though you’re worried that others may get information you so ignorantly don’t have,, with your and I quote (I want you all to rationalize as if though there were no books around) how stupid

Everyone Harry reserve the right to think for themselves And I quote you again (Consequentially, you are going to answer for what you believe and what you think irrespective to what an author says in his books) The operative word in that statement is
BELIEVE and I know for a FACT a belief just like Faith is an un-verified though Boy go find yourself you’re lost and spent

Tuesday, July 20th 2010 at 11:22AM
Sylvainy R

Hello Mr. Sylvainy,

Okay, Mr. said that any lets see if we could simplify things by using this example.

Your opinion that the children of Israel did not exist and therefore Moses did not exist either. The source of your information was Thomas Paine the author of “The Age Of Reason” written in 1793, am I right.

Now, I differ with this Thomas Paine by using my own rationale and analytical thinking abilities.

I said that since the Jewish people in the state of Israel today celebrates the ritual Passover instituted by Moses as written in the Bible 4000 years ago would without a doubt suggest the Exodus story is true and therefore Moses did exist. I did not calculate this from reading a book. It came out of my ability to rationalize the information spread out around me that I took a position on to know Moses existed. I want Black Americans to rationalize and analytically think as I do. That in time to come they will rationalize better than I do.

You on the other hand, Mr. Sylvainy is encouraging that Black Americans should establish their position based on some educated persons views. I want Black Americans to become thinkers that when they take a position it cannot be toppled as I am shattering your concept of accepting other people’s views without full scrutiny.

My point is that you have no independent position other than Mr. Thomas Paine that Moses did not exist. When you came to me with that nonsense, I quickly shattered it by analytical and rational thinking that proved Moses did exist. If Moses did not exist, then where did the Jewish people in Israel today get the ritual Passover celebration? The Jewish people got the Passover celebration because it was passed down to them from Moses’ generation 4000 years ago to the present generation of Jewish people in Israel today.

If I am wrong then show me. You would need more than an author to do so.

I think that you ought to pay a lot more attention to me than you have been doing. You are very much under estimating me

Tell me what you think.



Tuesday, July 20th 2010 at 1:08PM
Harry Watley
Harry once again you’re proving my point that you are illiterate can’t read WHERE IN MY STATEMENT DID YOU READ I SAY, The (source of my information that Moses did not exist was Thomas Paine the author of “The Age Of Reason) PLEASE SHOW ME WHERE YOU READ I SAID THAT!!!! How can you Harry differ or argue about something you know nothing about??????

I guarantee you Harry you did not read one line in that book,, And for your information The Age Of Reason is not my source,,,,,, although it provided a great starting point for me in my quest for truth and knowledge, it does however prove the bible to be without dough false and the stories contained therein are for lack on a better word fabricated

For anyone using one source of information as truth has absolutely no leg to stand on,,,, hence I say to you Harry you have no legs to stand on you’ve proven to repeat what you hear not what you know

I’ll take the bible and prove to anyone that anything written therein could not be true Thus one of MY source it the bible itself along with many others

Harry I’m not according to you and I quote (encouraging that Black Americans should establish their position based on some educated persons views) the psychological language there BOY is (some educated persons views)
WITH YOU BEEING THE EXCEPTION, The rest of us on BIA are Educated, you need to go get yourself some

Why should I not encourage my brothers and sisters to read and get informed is beyond me, They already did that to us Africans during slavery we were not allow to read don’t be fooled Harry NOT AGAIN NOT AGAIN


I am and I will encourage every African Black woman and every black man to read and get as much information as possible for information is a vital commodity to the survival of African people may be NOT your (Black Americans)


Now there’s no archeological evidence anywhere that proves Moses existed and the Exodus happen However there’s undisputed evidence to show that the History of the Africans Kings and Queens of Egypt (KEMET) and where the so-called Israelites got there history from

My obligation to every black woman and every black man if they’re in a dark room is to turn on the light switch it’s their responsibility to walk the door

As mentioned before the space within the circle represents the realm of our knowledge, All that we think we know about whatever we think we know is depicted right there within that circle
We must keep in mind that there’s more to know than what is within the circumference of our awareness

Harry your desire is to control others my desire is to inform and free myself from mental slavery don’t and I repeat don’t try that with me as mentioned before I’ll have you on toast for breakfast in the morning
Now take your time and read what I said, If you can’t read it get someone to read to you that is IF that’s not what’s happening with you at the moment

Tuesday, July 20th 2010 at 3:47PM
Sylvainy R
Harry, let's say I am homos*xual. What is the word that would correspond to race as applied to a homos*xual? Next, what is the word that would correspond to racism as applied to the belief that homos*xuals are lesser than heteros*xuals?

Also, Jamal denigrated the Native Americans at the same time.
Tuesday, July 20th 2010 at 4:11PM
Steve Williams
Harry, since the passover proves the existence of Moses, then communion must prove the existence of Jesus. But further it must prove that Jesus was a prophet to the Europeans. But he was not raised up from the Europeans so you say.
Tuesday, July 20th 2010 at 4:45PM
Steve Williams
No Harry.... Steve is not homos*xual!!
Hi Steve....

@Soso... I started reading last night... Paine... ((Common Sense)) I kept thinking where have I seen this name... ..... You know I am going to digest his writings of Christanity slow.... But it does make one think.....

@Steve.... Have you read the outline from the link Soso sent?

Say what the Natives??? Jamal??? What?? my people???
Tuesday, July 20th 2010 at 7:38PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Hi Sister Cynthia Merrill Artis

Glad to hear you took a look at it and it made you think, our suppressors don’t want us to think WHY
Because the most dangerous thing you can do to anyone is to make then think, and one of the most painful thing for some of our people is to think with respect to religion
Knowledge my sister is power share it
Hotep

Tuesday, July 20th 2010 at 8:55PM
Sylvainy R
I know... Isnt that why slaves were not allowed to read.... made them think!!! Ironic Huh??
Tuesday, July 20th 2010 at 9:44PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Hello Steve,

Homos*xuality neither does not trump race nor is it a race. True homos*xuality is a condition of a person due to no fault of the person. There are homos*xuals of all races since the beginning of humanity.

There is no such thing that homos*xuals are lesser than heteros*xuals are. Homos*xuals are people in heteros*xuals are people as well. The difference is that the intent of creation is pointed towards heteros*xuals as this world was created favoring right-handed people. Nevertheless, nature produces homos*xuals and left-handed people.

Next, you ask questions about Moses and Jesus. The questions you ask show me that you are thinking Steve unlike the ghettobilly Negroes and I am flattered when I recognize a person is rationalizing.

You asked, “But further it must prove that Jesus was a prophet to the Europeans. But he was not raised up from the Europeans so you say.”

Steve two things are into play here. Jesus was specifically raised up from among the Jewish people since he was Jewish. He said that he came to the house of Israel. The house of Israel acknowledges Jesus just by rejecting Jesus. So, with this understanding we know he was raised up from among the Jewish people.

Now, how the European gentiles come in to play is because Jesus could not handle his rejection by the Jewish people. Jesus then turned his back on them and took his message to the European gentiles. Of course, his disobedience of his anointing angered God big-time and it led to his crucifixion.


Tell me what you think.

Tuesday, July 20th 2010 at 10:01PM
Harry Watley
Hello Cynthia,

You said this, “…Isnt that why slaves were not allowed to read…”

Slaves were not allowed to read for different reasons and not to keep them ignorant.

Tell me what you think.


Tuesday, July 20th 2010 at 10:06PM
Harry Watley
Hello Mr. Sylvainy,

You said this, “The Age Of Reason is not my source“. As I read between the lines, I could see that this book is your source especially since you recommended that Cynthia read the book.

I know that my analytical reasoning was correct because you came right back and said this, “,,,,,, although it provided a great starting point for me in my quest for truth and knowledge,”. In other words, if it were not your source obviously it would not have provided you with your so-called truth and knowledge, am I right.

Then to puff things up you said this, “it does however prove the bible to be without dough false and the stories contained therein are for lack on a better word fabricated“. Your argument from the very beginning was that the Bible is false. That Moses never existed in this nonsense you got from Thomas Paine, am I right.

In the end, you have become a slave to Mr. Thomas Paine views. He has corrupted your analytical thinking that you are unable to understand that since Moses instituted the Passover 4000 years ago and the Jewish people in Israel celebrates the Passover just as Moses instituted it today should tell you that Moses did exist. The ritual of the Passover had been passed down through the Jewish people’s generation and that is how and why they celebrate it today.

Steve noticed the logic of what I said and you Mr. Sylvainy missed it, why?

Tell me what you think.






Tuesday, July 20th 2010 at 10:26PM
Harry Watley
HARRY!

HARRY!!!

HARRY!!!!!
Tuesday, July 20th 2010 at 11:30PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Harry, Let me try this logic on you.

Passover is celebrated by the Jews, therefore Moses is a prophet to the Jews.
Communion is celebrated by the Christians, therefore Jesus is a prophet to the Christians.

Do you see the parallel?
Wednesday, July 21st 2010 at 6:51AM
Steve Williams
Okay then, back to the meaning of racist. My questions about comparable words with regard to homos*xuals was to point out they do not exist in a convenient form, as do race and racist. We speak of one's s*xual orientation and homophobia, and homophobia expresses the concept of fear, as does racism, but lacks the element of hate. What word means "hate of homos*xuals"? I can't think of one specific to homos*xuals. We could make up new words like "so" (s*xual orientation), and then we could have soist and soism.

My point is to show how deeply ingrained in our consciousness is the word racist, even though no objective meaning exists for race. So now racist is based on skin color, but subconsciously it reinforces the obsolete idea of race.

The reference to the tea party article shows how we continue to cloud the issues with talk of racist remarks. They are not about skin color per se, but perceived association with the economics of a class system which goes far beyond one's skin color. And it diverts attention from the true causes and cure of this economic disparity.

There is a word that encompasses all kinds of hate and intolerance, and perhaps we would make more progress if we dropped the use of racist in favor of it.

Main Entry: big·ot
Pronunciation: \ˈbi-gət\
Function: noun
Etymology: French, hypocrite, bigot
Date: 1660

: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

— big·ot·ed \-gə-təd\ adjective

— big·ot·ed·ly adverb
Wednesday, July 21st 2010 at 8:02AM
Steve Williams
Specifically, Mark Williams and others like him attempt to equate the so-called welfare state as being caused by, and for the benefit of (ha!), those with dark skin color. His logic entirely misses the truth of the situation, and the NAACP buys right into it.
Wednesday, July 21st 2010 at 8:10AM
Steve Williams
Here is the NAACP resolution.

http://www.naacp.org/news/entry/naacp-dele...

Wednesday, July 21st 2010 at 8:23AM
Steve Williams
Clark, what value does the NAACP resolution have? If the Tea Party does as requested, will it really have that much of a positive effect? The Tea Party will still be the Tea Party, just hiding their bigotry. This country needs to focus on solutions to the inequities in this country. The use of racist/racism back and forth just turns it into a shouting match.

The one thing we know will help is education. That is why my mission statement is: "To create a cadre of Computer Science professionals from among disadvantaged African American youth". I can use all the help I can get.
Wednesday, July 21st 2010 at 9:07AM
Steve Williams
I would issue a different sort of challenge to the Tea Party. "Are you going to be part of the problem or part of the solution?" Then educate them on how their political stance makes the problem worse.
Wednesday, July 21st 2010 at 9:13AM
Steve Williams
Hello Steve,

You said this as logic, “Passover is celebrated by the Jews, therefore Moses is a prophet to the Jews. Communion is celebrated by the Christians, therefore Jesus is a prophet to the Christians. Do you see the parallel?”

Your so-called logic is not accurate or true there for it cannot be logical, let me explain.

It is clear that Jesus was a prophet to the Jewish people when Jesus said he came to the house of Israel and was rejected. It is also clear that Apostle Paul who was not one of God genuine prophet started the Christian religion within 10 years after Jesus crucifixion. Therefore, I do not see any parallel in your so-called logic. I believe you are confused about who is who and who did what as well as time.

Let me also explain to you Communion supposedly is that you do not confuse it with the church practice. FYI, I believe the church has taken the practice of Communion out of the ballpark. The last supper was solidarity between Jesus and the disciples. It was something on the level that when I was a young boy and became very good friends to three or four other boys we would become blood brothers by actually cutting ourselves and mixing our blood by touching each other’s wound.

Tell me what you think.



Wednesday, July 21st 2010 at 9:44AM
Harry Watley
Harry, the disciples were the first Christians and when Jesus instituted the communion he did so for all Christians (disciples of Christ) to follow.
Wednesday, July 21st 2010 at 10:24AM
Steve Williams
Hello Clark,

You said this, “racism depends upon generalization of an entire group of people without regard to each person's individuality”

I do not think that you understand the essence of racism to have separated the individual from his/her race. You fail to realize racism means that no single individual could raise above the plight of his/her people. Really, behind closed doors President Obama and Oprah Winfrey are generally still *****s if you will. Racism is that one group of people could never the as another group of people. Therefore, each group of people must be themselves and have their own place on earth to be themselves.

These types of stereotypical feelings are put in place by nature to make Black Americans realize that we need to be a sovereign people on the portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders. Black Americans would flourishe, advance faster, and further if we were sovereign people. We could and would our advancing benefits with other races that has not done well. At the same, the world’s judgment of Black Americans would be unadulterated since we would not be in the shadows of White America.

Likewise, the children of Israel could and would not have advanced and flourished in the shadows of Pharaoh in Egypt, am I right. Therefore, God brought about the Exodus through Moses.

In addition, Steve feels that Whites educating so-called African Americans even though I have told him so many times that Black Americans are not African Americans is Black America’s solution. However, it is not since Black America’s aid is still coming from White Americans. It is the same concept as if Black Americans were sovereign to fish for themselves White Americans would not have to give Black Americans a fish. Black Americans must be sovereign to brave the natural obstacles that nature hurls at every sovereign people to be successful in their own way. Am I making any sense?

Have I made my point?

Incidentally, I have often said how ignorant and irrational a people that we are as evident in the Mrs. Shelley Shared treatment by the NAACP is proof that the legend of the Willie Lynch letter is still operative today.

Lastly, I still cannot put together how you all could adequately discuss racism while claiming race does not exist.

Tell me what you think.

Wednesday, July 21st 2010 at 10:40AM
Harry Watley
Ok Harry

The Babylonian Talmud preserves a tradition that nobody who knew Abraham ( who did not exist) believe that Isaac was his son, For on the day Abraham warned his son Isaac He made a great banquet,, And all the people derided him saying Have you seen that Old man and Woman who brought a foundling from the street and now claim him their son,,,,,, Even a verse in the Koran ( the Prophets, Chapter,,,,,,, (Sura 21:72) Said of Abraham (who did not exist,,,,,We Bestowed on him Isaac and as an additional gift ( A grandson) Jacob

The Koran even mentioned three of the prophets Moses Aaron and Ishmael of them in Mary, Chapter 19:58 as being, The POSTRRITY of Abraham and Israel (Jacob)

Now Harry There’s also evidence that there was a Pharaoh who was married to Sarai was the father of Isaac and the evidence in particular the chronology of Sarah’s descendants ( Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses) points to Pharaoh Tuthmosis iii (c. 1490-1436 B.C) fifth Pharaoh of the eighteenth Dynasty the greatest warrior of the Ancient world Egypt and (Egypt) was not called Egypt it originally called Kemet meaning LAND OG THE BLACK Now (Pharaoh Tuthmosis iii) according to historian is non other than MOSES (Tuth-mosis)

The information is out there go do your research Thomas Paine is not my only source for information and when looking for information please note that Egypt (KEMET) is in Africa not the Middle east

And if you wish we could even deal with the so-call Jesus Christ

Go read something and dont be a rarrot

Wednesday, July 21st 2010 at 10:57AM
Sylvainy R
Harry,

Please show how you arrived at: "Steve feels that Whites educating so-called African Americans even though I have told him so many times that Black Americans are not African Americans is Black America’s solution."

I gave my mission statement. I did not say anything about "Whites" nor did I identify myself as "White". Nor did I say anything about "Black America's solution"

Use your head Harry.
Wednesday, July 21st 2010 at 11:08AM
Steve Williams
And Brother Harry, I might take what you said as bigoted. Refer to the definition above.
Wednesday, July 21st 2010 at 11:10AM
Steve Williams
Clark, if we accept that race has no objective truth, how can we accept that racism does? There is an underlying objective truth much obscured by the shouting match.
Wednesday, July 21st 2010 at 12:28PM
Steve Williams
Hello Steve,

You said this, “Harry, the disciples were the first Christians and when Jesus instituted the communion he did so for all Christians (disciples of Christ) to follow.”

Firstly, Apostle Paul coined the word Christians and not Jesus. Christianity was Apostle Paul and the disciples’ pet project. Furthermore, the last supper was camaraderie only between Jesus and his disciples I have told you. The essence of the Last Supper was stretched as a rubber band to a communion deal.

To say that when Jesus instituted communion, Jesus never instituted communion. However, Jesus did so for all Christians is a blatant lie. Jesus instituted a bond or a camaraderie with his disciples only since Jesus could see that ending of their relationship was on the horizon.

You do the same stupid **** that the churches do, which is to take one thing and say, it means something else. When dialoguing with me I do not allow people to do that stupid ****.

So, in conclusion Jesus did not institute communion. Jesus was not a Christian. However, the disciples were the first Christians. Apostle Paul coined the word Christians and it is in the book of Acts.

You are doing the same **** with the word race and racism. You claim race do not exist, but racism do exist. How stupid is that when race is the root word of racism? How could you have one without the other? That is absolutely dumb thinking. None of you all actually thinks in a straight line.

You asked that I show how I arrived at: Steve feels that Whites educating Black Americans is Black America’s solution. Well, you said this, “The one thing we know will help is education.”
Since White America has, been educating Black Americans from day one who else would be there to educate Black Americans?


What say you?



Wednesday, July 21st 2010 at 2:22PM
Harry Watley
Hello Mr. Soso,

I do not think you understand the essence of our dialogue. Let me tell you what the essence of our dialogue is. And

You claim that Moses did not exist. I differed with you. I said that Moses did exist. Since the Jewish people in Israel today still celebrates the ritual Passover that Moses instituted 4000 years ago has to tell you that Moses did exist. My rationale is that if Moses did not exist then where and at what point in history did the Jewish people began to celebrate the ritual Passover. I contend that the celebration of the ritual Passover was passed down from Moses generation to the present generation of the Jewish people. Therefore, your claim that Moses did not exist is pure nonsense.

Our dialogue does not concern Babylon or Quran. I want you to concede that what I am saying is the truth.

What say you?

Wednesday, July 21st 2010 at 2:35PM
Harry Watley
Hello Clark,

You said this, “Harry, you misinterpreted that statement. I am not separating the individual from his/her race.”

Okay, we are on the same page.

Anyway, again the permanent solution to your dialog concerning Black America’s problems is that we must desire to become a sovereign people on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders. There is no other way.

Black Americans has to come to understand how creation works. Creation is very competitive to assure the survival of life and earth. Black Americans must desire to brave the natural obstacles that nature hurdles at every people and species to be sovereign free. Otherwise, Black Americans or any species will be dominated by another, am I right.

Tell me what you think.




Wednesday, July 21st 2010 at 2:48PM
Harry Watley
That says Moses was ever there or he existed except the Bible told you so and the bible has proven itself faults Harry the TRUTH IS UN-believable


I imaging Unicorn exist because there are pictures of then,,, Harry you need to start reading not just repeating like a parrot if you keep Listening only to your tongue,, your tongue will keep will forever you deaf

Wednesday, July 21st 2010 at 3:13PM
Sylvainy R
Hi All I don't get this can someone help me here what is reverse discrimination I know its off topic
Wednesday, July 21st 2010 at 4:36PM
Sylvainy R
Hello Mr. Soso,

You still do not understand what I am saying. Mr. Soso the point I am stuck to is that since the Jewish people celebrates the ritual Passover still today and not that they started last year the same way Moses instituted it 4000 years ago as described in the Bible compels me to believe that Moses existed.

What I have done by using the Passover is connect the present day to the days of Moses of the past. Do you not understand that? The Passover I want you to understand is my evidence that Moses did exist.

The ritual celebration of the Passover is not what you are addressing to that Moses did not exist. You cannot address the Passover since the ritual is still celebrated today. It was simply be a logical, irrational and stupid for you to do. I do not want you to address unicorns. Address the ritual celebration of the Passover. Tell me that the Passover does not exist.

FYI, reverse discrimination is when a blatant racist (A) accuses victim (B) of racism.

In other words, White Americans has practiced racism against Black Americans for centuries and still do, but now screams reverse discrimination in the face of the government when affirmative action was made law that Black Americans could have access to the benefits of government that Whites has always had.

Tell me what you think.

Wednesday, July 21st 2010 at 6:12PM
Harry Watley
Stupid **** Harry? And here you started out so very polite.

A simple fact, with no need to bring Stupid **** into it. The book of Acts does not say Paul coined the word Christian. It says where and when the disciples were first called Christians. I believe it was in Antioch, but I'm sure you can look it up yourself.

Feel free to believe in Moses, and yourself as modern day Moses. I have pretty much given up on your ability to present Logic.

Now on education, did I ever say it was to be a White Undertaking?
Wednesday, July 21st 2010 at 6:27PM
Steve Williams
Hello Steve,

Yes, it was in Antioch that Apostle Paul coined the word Christians to name the newly converted Gentiles. He also waives circumcision. So, who would then do you say coined the word Christians?

On education, read the last paragraph of my post dated July 21 at 2:22 p.m.

What say you?

Wednesday, July 21st 2010 at 7:04PM
Harry Watley
Harry, I (or should I say we) have showed you countless times where you are wrong and you fail to take heed. So as long as you fail to take heed, keep driving yourself off the cliff like that little cardboard figure in The Price Is Right game...LOL

Wednesday, July 21st 2010 at 7:55PM
Siebra Muhammad
Harry, I see you've answered all my questions to the best of your ability.
Wednesday, July 21st 2010 at 9:19PM
Steve Williams
Hi Steve!!
Wednesday, July 21st 2010 at 9:28PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Clark, I'll get back to you. Harry has fried my brain. I am dumbfounded.
Wednesday, July 21st 2010 at 9:29PM
Steve Williams
Hi Cynthia! Have you brought a cold glass of water and a couple aspirin? Or what would you prescribe for Harry Fried Brain?
Wednesday, July 21st 2010 at 9:34PM
Steve Williams
Hmm, maybe I shouldn't ask that in public.
Wednesday, July 21st 2010 at 9:38PM
Steve Williams
the electric chair.... to finish cooking that fool
Wednesday, July 21st 2010 at 9:38PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Yes on his problematic blog.... he got me carried away too.... sad thing he's still to stupid to realize....lol
Wednesday, July 21st 2010 at 9:40PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
It's me that needs help honey, not Harry!
Wednesday, July 21st 2010 at 9:44PM
Steve Williams
Here are some MSNBC clips relevant to our discussion of racism. Charges of racism abound on all sides.

Clark, this shows my problem with the word.

Sylnainy, here is an answer to your question about reverse discrimination.

Irma, I guess thes are the clips you requested?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#38353...

Thursday, July 22nd 2010 at 7:33AM
Steve Williams
The Back and Forth we have here is because some, like Steve look at Philosophy of Language --- philosophy of communication and understand that language and its philosophy in American have been Division Factors, negative Factors, 'black Factors', and they should be reevaluated for meaning if Americans are to Evolve from physical Thinkers-slaveThinkers, into Intellectual Modern Thinkers.

harry, and truth deletingOthers are prime examples of the residue of slavery, whereas they can only think, act, write in the Language of slaveMaster; so their philosophy is Stagnated, Old and Decayed.

i believe, he and other colorWorshippers are confused ---

Steve has already written BIA that race is not scientific----yet harry and other nonScientific historyDeleteing llittles; think race color can think,

many citizens believe their human content, their lot in living, is based on the slave concept of 'black boy and white girl"

a child in Kindergarten learns his colors--and due to immaturity the child sees many colors,

yet a Scientist, sees One Light that hits an invisible Spectrum and disapates into all the miraculous colors of the Rainbow,

We can, if we want, stay in Kindergarten, or we can Evolve into more mature Human Beings.

America is trying to evolve out of the primordal state of American Slavery, colorWorshipping Era

Our journey in America and our BIA stereotype smashing;

should Begin during the Era of the Greatest Leader, this former slaveNation has produced, President Baraka Hussein Obama


Thursday, July 22nd 2010 at 7:54AM
robert powell
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#38353...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#38353...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#38353...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#38353...


Thursday, July 22nd 2010 at 7:56AM
Steve Williams
The legacy of race. In all this, to me, the abundance of the words racist/racism shows just how much the original thinking of race is alive and well.

Sylvainy, the first clip shows an ad from the 90s that clearly shows the idea of reverse discrimination.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#3835...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#3835...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#3835...
Thursday, July 22nd 2010 at 9:28AM
Steve Williams
@ Brother: Robert Powel:

With due respect to you I agree to disagree with your statement here’s is where I agree with you and I quote


(The Back and Forth we have here is because some, like Steve look at Philosophy of Language --- philosophy of communication and understand that language and its philosophy in American have been Division Factors, negative Factors, 'black Factors', and they should be reevaluated for meaning if Americans are to Evolve) I’ll stop here

Please correct if wrong, if I’m understanding the psychology behind the rest of what you’re saying is that we as Africans people should forget and move on because a former slave Nation has produced , a President in the name of President Baraka Hussein Obama I’m I understanding you correctly?????

Thursday, July 22nd 2010 at 10:16AM
Sylvainy R
Dear Steve, Robert, Clark, Sylvainy, Siebra, Harry and Dr. ARtis:

This has been an absolutely BRILLIANT, dignified, insightful, learned, wise and deeply enriching conversation. I have been on vacation and out of touch for a couple of weeks so I am just tuning in now.

But reading over the comments, this looks like graduate level academics. This ain't kid stuff. It is serious intellectual inquiry. And I thank you all for offering me the opportunity to read it!!!





Thursday, July 22nd 2010 at 10:25AM
Richard Kigel
@ Bro, Clark Maxwell

Thank you
That’s exactly what I was thought, when it pertains to whites, They says is not the normal order of things ( discrimination) I could only hope brother Clark that the Mass of our people is paying attention

Thursday, July 22nd 2010 at 10:44AM
Sylvainy R
Clark, I agree, it is a tremendous waste of time. What do you think of my mission statement?
Thursday, July 22nd 2010 at 10:44AM
Steve Williams
Rich, hope you had a great vacation. I'm glad you've joined us.
Thursday, July 22nd 2010 at 10:46AM
Steve Williams
Clark, philosophy means from the Greek "love of knowledge". Science is from the Latin "knowledge". Before modern science, philosophy *was* science. I think of Philosophy as being at the root of Science.
Thursday, July 22nd 2010 at 10:55AM
Steve Williams
@ Bro, Clark Maxwell

That’s exactly what I was thought, when it pertains to whites, They says is not the normal order of things ( discrimination) I could only hope brother Clark that the Mass of our people is paying attention

Clark, philosophy means from the Greek "love of knowledge". Science is from the Latin "knowledge". Before modern science, philosophy *was* science. I think of Philosophy as being at the root of Science

Hi Brother Clark,

Not to get off topic, But philosophy, (love of knowledge) is not Greek but African all of the Greek philosophers including Socrates, went to Egypt (Kemet ), Which is in Africa, to study among other things philosophy, Socrates whose life was shortened by being condemned to death via the [hemlock]
Why for teaching a Foreign philosophy


Thursday, July 22nd 2010 at 11:41AM
Sylvainy R
Hello Clark,

I want to compliment you on the superb logic and rationale explaining reverse discrimination especially when you said this, “On the one hand, logically speaking, for "reverse discrimination" to exist, that means discrimination against non-whites itself is valid,…To say it is in "reverse" when it pertains to whites says that is not the normal order of discrimination,”

However, since you said this, “Its another sign that as a society we're not well served investing so much into it.”
You should immediately realize that if Black Americans had a portion of this continent to function in our own way is the only permanent solution. As racism is Black Americans problem, so it is White America’s problem as well. The only difference is that Black Americans comes out on the short end of the stick every time.

Tell me what you think.

Thursday, July 22nd 2010 at 11:47AM
Harry Watley
Sylvainy, I meant Greek language. As an aside, I took dual majors, in classical Greek and Latin, and in Philosophy. I read Plato's Apology and Phaedo in the original Greek. Don't ask if I can still do that 35 years later. Socrates was 70 when he drank the hemlock.
Thursday, July 22nd 2010 at 12:01PM
Steve Williams
"What we like to think of as "philosophic thought" first appears in Greece in a poem, Theogony , written by Hesiod about 725 B.C.; the Theogony retells the myths of the gods and speculates in part about the origins of things and the order of the universe. What we generally call "Greek philosophy" was almost certainly derived by the Greeks from Egyptian culture, particularly natural science (physics and math) which preoccupied Greek thought up to the time of Plato. The Greeks seem also to have derived much of their philosophical theology from the Egyptians as well. These are not modern interpretations of Greek philosophy; the ancient Greeks themselves claim without dissension that their philosophy comes from Egypt. Whether the Greeks traveled to Egypt or whether the Egyptians colonized or visited Greece at some point (which is what the ancient Greeks thought) is a difficult question to answer."

http://wsu.edu/~dee/GREECE/PRESOC.HTM

Thursday, July 22nd 2010 at 12:08PM
Steve Williams
Brother Steve
@ Steve: Thanks fascinating do you read or speak Latin? If yes !! My reasons for asking that question have you ever read the Vulgate Bible?

Thursday, July 22nd 2010 at 12:57PM
Sylvainy R
Hello to All,

So, is there such a thing as race? In other words, are the Chinese people a race that is different from the Japanese people? Are Nigerian Africans a race different from Black Americans?

Do you all feel that racial differences do not exist? What is the concept of racial diversity when schools and government institutions are trying to accomplish a balance? Is every one out of their minds about race differences except you people on this blog except me?

I am still baffled how you all can discuss racism, yet see race as non-existing.

Tell me what you think.

Thursday, July 22nd 2010 at 1:17PM
Harry Watley
Brother Sylvainy, I have read in the Vulgate, as well a other Medieval Latin. All my books are "lost" in storage, but I do have a copy of Jerome's Vulgate translation. I was an undergraduate from '75 to '79, so you can imagine my facility with Classical Languages is somewhat rusty. My career after college was Software Engineering. I was one of the more literate among Engineers because of my background in the humanities.

Here is an on-line edition. I find it intelligible because I know the English version.

http://www.speedbible.com/vulgate/B01C001....

Thursday, July 22nd 2010 at 1:19PM
Steve Williams
Harry, I see continued bafflement in your future.
Thursday, July 22nd 2010 at 1:21PM
Steve Williams
no soso,

to your last response to me above...........

based on previous writings one must realize that I consider; 'black/white' silliness, a Human Division from the Family of Adaam.

the most hurt by africanAmerican Slavery, as I have stated MANY times, are the European.
When the enslavedAfrican in 1865 accepted the 'religion-way of conduct, way of life' that the European gave them 1492-1864-----

these negroFree 'men' gave the world THE GREATEST CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY----EVER.

the definitions that, that 'african' or 'black' or harrySpeak, 'inbreed' made were, in my opinion, the wrong definitions and hurt the European the Most.

cause what could be worse than africanSlave life in America---1492-1864?

for the American of african decent, 1864-2010 are the best 250 years they have had in 750 years!

and yes America should try to evolve out of the primordal state of American Slavery, colorWorshipping Era-----and BIA should smashing those past misconceptions and

should during the Era of the Greatest Leader, this former slaveNation has produced, President Baraka Hussein Obama ------ CHANGE..........



Thursday, July 22nd 2010 at 1:40PM
robert powell
@Steve
Thank you so much for the link my brother it's much appreciated

Thursday, July 22nd 2010 at 1:51PM
Sylvainy R
Brother Robert, now you have made it crystal clear.
Thursday, July 22nd 2010 at 1:55PM
Steve Williams
Sylvainy, if you have questions of translation, ask. I wish I had my grammars and dictionaries, But I can find what I need on the web, though this is one case where the physical form would be easier.
Thursday, July 22nd 2010 at 2:00PM
Steve Williams
Thanks robert powell Now it’s crystal clear indeed
Thursday, July 22nd 2010 at 2:08PM
Sylvainy R
@ Steve Williams I most certainly would
Thursday, July 22nd 2010 at 2:10PM
Sylvainy R
Hello to All,

None of you are talking about race and racism in connection to the philosophy of language.

You Negroes and Whites baffles the hell out of me. I know that when this dialogue is over the understanding as well as misunderstanding when this dialogue began will be the same. You started at Ground Zero and you will end at Ground Zero, which means you all have not went anywhere. In other words, nothing of benefit would have been gotten from this dialogue, am I right.


Thursday, July 22nd 2010 at 2:57PM
Harry Watley
Wrong again Harry.
Thursday, July 22nd 2010 at 4:21PM
Steve Williams
WOW!! I go off to take a final and you just forget about me.... YOU ALL are really providing me with something to take along for discussion in my philosophy class for the fall... I'll be back to add to the discussion but I've got an exam to prep for... I only have two more weeks left in this semester got a lot of studying ......
Thursday, July 22nd 2010 at 8:24PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
How could we forget about YOU honey bee? I know you are busy and I'm proud of you' but you know we still need that quality time ;-)
Thursday, July 22nd 2010 at 9:36PM
Steve Williams
I know.... how was your day?
Thursday, July 22nd 2010 at 9:49PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Didn't have to work today. It was nice. How was your final.
Thursday, July 22nd 2010 at 10:43PM
Steve Williams
Clark, I know I replied to your comment about BDPA, but it has disappeared. It's not the first time this has happened, it happened on one of Irma's blogs too.

Anyway it was to say thanks for the much needed info. I've explored their site and written an email to the Philly chapter to get info on their meeting schedule.
Thursday, July 22nd 2010 at 10:48PM
Steve Williams
Steve...have forgotten your lovely one? I still think of you. "
I would like a little quality time too"
[ Smiles]
"I know that the buzzing Honey Bee keeps her wings all over you, but you and I always have our telepathy." LOL!

-- By the way I loved your blog.
Great informative message and engaged withbeautiful and insightful comments.
Just brillant dear Steve. See you later.

Thursday, July 22nd 2010 at 10:57PM
MIISRAEL Bride
Lovely One, I do need to visit you more often! I don't think Cynthia has heard about our telepathy. Do I hear a loud buzzing sound approaching?

Thanks so much for your gracious comments about my blog.
Thursday, July 22nd 2010 at 11:26PM
Steve Williams
YES.... YOU DO..... I got caught in a couple of honey bee hives on my way trying to get here.... I see my Sista is at it again..... that's why I haven't been able to catch up with her
Yes Sista.... Honey Bee keeps her wings all over him....

LOL.....
Tuesday, July 27th 2010 at 10:37AM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Has everyone stoped our languange......
Tuesday, July 27th 2010 at 10:38AM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
It seems as though Harry has run for it. Jamal never even showed.
Tuesday, July 27th 2010 at 10:52AM
Steve Williams
Hey we can talk this evening.... I finished my Exam.... I'll be studying for my final.... getting a early start....
Tuesday, July 27th 2010 at 10:55AM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
That works.
Tuesday, July 27th 2010 at 11:14AM
Steve Williams
Hi Sis Cynthia Merrill Artis That's great
Tuesday, July 27th 2010 at 4:03PM
Sylvainy R

Many Subjects should never be deleted/blocked

--- A prime example is "race". A simple consideration might be if we were to take this word as inherent and counterproductive to the problem of "racism", and therefore discontinuing the use of the word might aid the discontinuance of racism?

Let BIA commentators Read and Comprehend better..............

Let America continue the Age of President Baraaaka Hussein Obama


where you at oldFriend?

your subjects packed Scholarship and thought............


Friday, June 1st 2012 at 5:58PM
powell robert
Robert,

You seem to a type of phycological fear of the word race. The word race has never done anything wrong to you for you to have such a hated for the word RACE.
All that the word race is doing is making you acknowledge that human-beings are racially different. For example, a Chinese man don't have the same physical traits features as a Black
American man.
Saturday, June 2nd 2012 at 2:06AM
Harry Watley

I have NO fear of the english Language Word, Race............

I RACE to the definitions of words in their Original Language

I RACE to Intelligence, Science and Scholastic History

I RACE to AlIslaam, AlQur'aan and the SUnnah of Mohamed(as)

I race AWAY from the thinking of a selfProfessed 68 IQ, retarded paganChristian.....

I race AWAY from the thinking of Division in the Family of Adaam(as)

and

i follow closely the RACE that President Baraaka Hussein Obama is IN





Saturday, June 2nd 2012 at 8:08AM
powell robert
Stupid Robert,

The sentence, I race to the store is one of many ways the word race can be used.
Another way the the word race is used is describing a specific ethinic group of people. For example, since Chinese people are radically different looking from Black Americans than we know that racial diversity exist in humanity.

Since you don't ever use the word race to describe racial diversity tells me that you have a fear of the word and you need to get over you fear. The word race is in the dictionary used to describ ethinicity. So, it is legal to use the word to describe the ethincity of different groups of
people. You just need to over come your fear and use the word in every way that it can be legally used.
Saturday, June 2nd 2012 at 12:49PM
Harry Watley

if i thought and wrote, like an englishChristian of slaverAmericana 1492-1864

----i would be YOU

.....and accept euroCentric definitions of what I AM.......and what the WORLD IS......

BUT

unlike YOU harry, i am a freeMAN

--- i am able to make the definitions that my ancestry from Africa and AlQur'aan and its Scholarship of 1641+ years give me FROM the ORIGINAL language ----ARABIC

knowledge of the ARABIC allows me to work to study the similar languages of HEBREW and ARAMAIC --- the languages BEFORE kingJames's version of 2-3000 YEARS ago

i also RACE away from your selfProfessed retardedness..................

learn something, sometime you, 'blackAmerican'







Saturday, June 2nd 2012 at 9:56PM
powell robert
Stupid,

The issuse is whether Elijah and MalcolmX were Arabian or Black American men.
Sunday, June 3rd 2012 at 2:55AM
Harry Watley

Harry, you are on the WRONG Subject

This BLOG is TITLED, 'The Philosophy of Language'

One who speaks, thinks the Arabic LANGUAGE --- would be ARAB

so, LOGICALLY; e and x were NOT arab

they both made Hajj to Meccah; AND they had to get an AMERICAN PASSPORT

so i am going to take a stab at it and say USING -0IQ----they were Americans

and Websters Dictionary called them negros in 1964

as for El Hajj Malik El Shabazz, at his death in 1965

--- he had studied AlQur'aan and the Sunnah of Mohamed(as) in ARABIC for some time





Sunday, June 3rd 2012 at 8:26AM
powell robert
Robert,

Now that we agree Elijah and MalcolmX were Black American men we now need to agree on who is their prophet and what is their religion, rigtht.

Even though they did not live long enough to see their prophet and know what their own religion is nevertheless, Prophet Harry is their prophet and LIFE is Elijah and MalcolmX's religion. Am I right?
Sunday, June 3rd 2012 at 9:22AM
Harry Watley

NO

for the 56,234,111th time you are NOT right

Again, TITLE ------ harry is---------- "The Philosophy of Language"!

e and x were CLASSIFIED by englishWebsters Language Dictionary, in 1964 as --- 'negros'---

they saw NEGROS in their LIVES --- in fact they called them DEAD people?

x is english

malcolm is From "Scottish" Máel Coluim which means "disciple of Saint COLUMBA".

negro could be spanish

European Definitions! ----- definitions of slaverAmericana 1492-1864

LOGIC ------ europeanSubjects

but

El Hajj Malik El Shabazz is a tranliteration from its ROOT in ARABIC

AlIslaam is a transliteration from its ROOT in ARABIC

AlQur'aan is a transliteration from its ROOT in ARABIC

americanSlaves like the Kunta Kintes of OUR past spoke, thought and wrote in nonEuropean languages that by 1492 had their dominantThought in the Language of Arabic, AlQur'aan and the Sunnah of Mohamed(saw)....

so --- excuse me 68IQ guy ---- i speak, think and write in the definitions of my ancestors, like, Kunta Kinte, Musa(as), Ibraheem(as), .....Mohamed(saw)

you can and DO, its OK, speak, think and write in the definitions of yourAncestors, kingJames, masterWatley, mlking, siebraDavid and other BS BTolders............

yourLIFE is coming from your 68IQ mind ONLY..............









Sunday, June 3rd 2012 at 10:35AM
powell robert

welcome back steve
Saturday, July 7th 2012 at 8:39AM
powell robert
Thank-you Robert, and for resurrecting my blog. I wasn't even sure how to find it, I will bookmark so I don't lose it again. Now let me go back and see if your diligence with Harry has produced any fruit yet.
Saturday, July 7th 2012 at 10:43AM
Steve Williams
Okay Harry, if you are there, from Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negro

This article is about the historic term. For an overview of the subject, see Black people. For the pro wrestler, see Sin Cara Negro.

The word “Negro” is used in the English-speaking world to refer to a person of black ancestry or appearance. The word negro denotes 'black' in the Spanish and Portuguese speaking vocabulary, or from the ancient Latin, niger, 'black', probably from a Proto-Indo-European root *nekw-, 'to be dark', akin to *nokw- 'night'.[1][2]
"Negro" superseded "colored" as the most polite terminology, at a time when "black" was more offensive.[3] This usage was accepted as normal, even by people classified as Negroes, until the later Civil Rights movement in the late 1960s. One well-known example is the identification by Martin Luther King, Jr. of his own race as 'Negro' in his famous 1963 speech I Have a Dream.
During the American Civil Rights movement of the 1950s and 1960s, some black American leaders in the United States, notably Malcolm X, objected to the word, preferring Black,[4] because they associated the word Negro with the long history of slavery, segregation, and discrimination that treated African Americans as second class citizens, or worse.
Since the late 1960s, various other terms have been more widespread in popular usage. These include "black", "Black African", "Afro-American" (in use from the late 1960s to 1990) and "African American" (used in the United States to refer to black Americans, peoples often referred to in the past as American Negroes).[5]
The term "Negro" is still used in some historical contexts, such as in the name of the United Negro College Fund[6][7] and the Negro league in sports.
The United States Census Bureau announced that "Negro" would be included on the 2010 United States Census, alongside "Black" and "African-American" because some older Black Americans still self-identify with the term.[8][9][10]

So you see Harry, we can retire any word we want, and change it to an historic term.

Saturday, July 7th 2012 at 11:05AM
Steve Williams

Oh the Beauty of Language and the Philosophy that can explain the Civilized Man

steve --- harry is just BIA; or black in America; or AMERICAN?----hey, selfProfessed --68IQ almost retarded--not much one can say about that

but

what Language is THIS?

----religion >>>>!!! (6 hits) FILL IN THE BLANK !!

----hypocrisy,,,,duplicitous,,,,sanctimoniousness, how low will b i a ,,,go ??? (28 hits) "IN ORDER TO RISE ABOVE ,,,the rules of engagement needs to change/!!Why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye"

-----terrorists' use of internet spreads,,is bia harboring islamic extremist unknowingly ? (27 hits)"The U.S. military is under a domestic attack—from the administration, American citizens and Islamist groups. Our troops are taking fire from the home front:

The Obama administration isn’t a fan; too many liberal progressives want to see them decimate ..."

is the above---- "BIA; or black in America; or AMERICAN?

OR is it----or the Language of Bushism-----anti Our President Baraaka Hussein Obama--?

some, obscene, shameless WRITING of some teaPartism, cheneyPatriotism or just some ignorant ghettoWriting?

is DEGRADING Our Leader President Baraaka Hussein Obama ---- BIA; or black in America; or AMERICAN Philosophy?









Sunday, July 15th 2012 at 6:24PM
powell robert
I hate to say, my son showed me today some STUFF about our President, that was supposed to FRIGHTEN me, about his Muslim belief.

I hate to say, I am more AFRAID for my son than I am for David Johnson.

I am overjoyed though at what I heard Our President say.
Monday, July 16th 2012 at 2:42AM
Steve Williams


SUBJECT is --------"The Philosophy of Language"

HISTORY, Scholarship and Science of the past 500 years in America and Above reading show that there was and is a lot of mixing of europe, africa, asia and nS-America-

steve, you and i and the Dedicated dr. Artis are the SAME...people--scientificallyProven

there is nothing negroid, idiotic, dumb, 'black or white' about that ----

-- to dr.Artis, harry and all the Rest of the RacialisticRacist colorLanguagISTS---- cannot in YEARS of the AGE of SCIENCE----UNDERSTAND ???

and as dr.Artis so clearly WRITES in the FIRST comment...."not only a word it's an action"




Sunday, February 3rd 2013 at 2:43PM
powell robert
The vast majority of this country uncritically accepts the IDEA of race. It is the FOUNDATION OF DIVISION. Like demolishing a building, destroy the foundation and the whole edifice collapses.
Sunday, February 3rd 2013 at 3:10PM
Steve Williams
The American Government should start the process by removing the Race Question from the Census.
Sunday, February 3rd 2013 at 3:12PM
Steve Williams
ok...
Sunday, February 3rd 2013 at 3:14PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
We could start a petition to send to President Obama.

Step 3
If a petition meets the signature threshold, it will be reviewed by the Administration and we will issue a response.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov

White House now requires ‘We the People’ petitions to have 100,000 signatures for official response

President Barack Obama’s deputies have quadrupled the number of signatures that petitioners on the administration’s “We the People” website must collect to get an official response from the White House, following a series of popular, provocative and disrespectful signature drives by his critics.

Some of the petitions sought approval for states to secede after Obama’s re-election, while others called on the White House to disavow executive orders that restrict gun rights, or to deport CNN’s British-born, progressive host Piers Morgan.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/16/white-ho...

Sunday, February 3rd 2013 at 3:24PM
Steve Williams
Race does not exist according to the understanding of 21st century science. You are an 18th century scientist Harry. And I use the term scientist loosely.
Sunday, February 3rd 2013 at 5:36PM
Steve Williams
Stupid,

I am a scientist. Everybody is a scientist. Everybody becomes a scientist early in life because the first action of a scientist is observation and that entails the use of your eyes to make comparison and contrast. Our first learning tool is our eyes.

When I look at a Chinese man and then a Black American man I see two physically distinct features which lead me to conclude that a Chinese and a Black American man are racially different.

So let me ask you, do you personal think that a Chinese man and a Black American man look the same? You are in creditably stupid.


Sunday, February 3rd 2013 at 8:41PM
Harry Watley

steve, steve, adam, or fate?

you asked the BLOCKED robertPowell---on governedBy christ blag

Now seems a good time to ask what is AtTaurat? I mean is it a book like the Old Testament, or a tradition incorporated in the Quran?

Tuesday, February 19th 2013 at 3:30PM Steve Williams

since you chanted with sweetIrma, your intellect has beenTOUCHED and this question is either a sign that the INTELLECT i thought you had is Deteriorating OR it is not yourWriting......

AtTaurat is Torah---but you KNOW that------

and AlQur'aan is your usual response to me.....NEVER quran

it your intellect has gone, OK

but to argue with 68 IQ retardant Harry, and AGREE with the cartoonS of governedBy christ is typical liberalGuy wanting to patronize Negros......thats RACISM in my opinion....




Tuesday, February 19th 2013 at 10:13PM
powell robert
Robert,

I called Irma on New Years Eve because I hadn't heard from her for a while. Siebra gave me her number. We'd been talking about meeting for a couple of years. It turned out New years Day was the opportunity.

Yes I know it is the Torah, but I m not an Arabic reader/writer and I can't always remember the spelling you use. Like for the Gospel, which I know is not Matthew-Mark-Luke-John KJV. Hence is the Muslim Torah/Gospel the same as the Christian. Question.

Wednesday, February 20th 2013 at 12:01AM
Steve Williams
so u found this old scroll..

Wednesday, February 20th 2013 at 12:46AM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Not without some leads though.
Wednesday, February 20th 2013 at 12:51AM
Steve Williams
POOR ROBERT... I can sense he has worries.... but he's still got jokes...
since you chanted with sweetIrma, your intellect has beenTOUCHED and this question is either a sign that the INTELLECT i thought you had is Deteriorating OR it is not yourWriting......


Wednesday, February 20th 2013 at 2:06AM
Cynthia Merrill Artis

SUBJECT---The Philosophy of Language

AtTaurat in the Original LANGUAGE of the Chosen of Illaah, is Hebrew and is the Truth of the Creator of Adaam(as)

the paganGreek, paul, withConstantineConstantinople DEGRADATION of the MONOTHEISTIC thought of the Yahhudde(jews)---is NOT, AzZaboor or AtTaurat......

ASK ANY JEW.......................

SPEAKING of LANGUAGE --- the reason i use this Blog --- 'blackBLOCKISM' -- 'noBlack Intellect'

the rosetta stone NONSENSE of the king and governedBy christ......

YOU, as well as ALL intellectuals know that NAPOLEON(the guy who shot the sphinx)---'found'---the writings of Alexander the Great----and transliterated USING paganGreek and paganDemotic(Democracy or Devil) Language

i can paste too----heres more NONSENSE --- djGovernedBY christ STYLE

The Rosetta Stone is an ancient Egyptian granodiorite stele inscribed with a decree issued at Memphis in 196 BC on behalf of King Ptolemy V. The decree appears in three scripts: the upper text is Ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs, the middle portion Demotic script, and the lowest Ancient Greek.

Demotic Greek (Δημοτική) was, during the middle ages, the vernacular language of the Byzantines, notably in mainland Greece, Asia Minor and Constantinople.

The year is stated as the ninth year of Ptolemy V's reign (equated with 197/196 BC), and it is confirmed by naming four priests who officiated in that same year: Aëtus son of Aëtus was priest of the divine cults of Alexander the Great

Study of the decree was already under way as the first full translation of the Greek text appeared in 1803. It was 20 years, however, before the transliteration of the Egyptian scripts was announced by Jean-François Champollion in Paris in 1822

The decree was issued during a turbulent period in Egyptian history. Ptolemy V Epiphanes (reigned 204–181 BC), son of Ptolemy IV Philopator and his wife and sister Arsinoe, had become ruler at the age of five after the sudden death of both of his parents, murdered, according to contemporary sources, in a conspiracy that involved Ptolemy IV's mistress Agathoclea

TRANSLATION OF THE ROSETTA STONE
from The Nile, Notes for Travellers in Egypt, by E. A. Wallis Budge, 9th Edition, London, Thos. Cook and Son, [1905], pp. 199-211.

TRANSLATION OF THE HIEROGLYPHIC TEXT OF THE DECREE OF THE PRIESTS OF MEMPHIS, AS FOUND ON THE ROSETTA STONE 1 AND ON THE STELE OF DAMANHŰR. THE DECREE WAS PROMULGATED IN THE 9TH YEAR OF THE REIGN OF PTOLEMY V. EPIPHANES.
1. On the twenty-fourth day of the month GORPIAIOS 2, which correspondeth to the twenty-fourth day of the fourth month of the season PERT 3 of the inhabitants of TA-MERT (EGYPT), in the twenty-third year of the reign of HORUS-RA the CHILD, who hath risen as King upon the throne of his father, the lord of the shrines of NEKHEBET 4 and UATCHET, 5 the mighty one of two-fold strength, the stablisher of the Two Lands, the beautifier of
2. Egypt, whose heart is perfect (or benevolent) towards the gods, the HORUS of Gold, who maketh perfect the life of the hamentet beings, the lord of the thirty-year festivals like PTAḤ, the sovereign prince like RĀ, the King of the South and North, Neterui-merui-ȧtui-ȧuā-setep-en-Ptaḥ-usr-ka-Rā-ānkh-sekhem-Ȧmen 6, the Son of the Sun Ptolemy, the ever-living,
p. 200
the beloved of Ptaḥ, the god who maketh himself manifest.
3. the son of PTOLEMY and ARSINOË, the Father-loving gods; when PTOLEMY, the son of PYRRHIDES, was priest of ALEXANDER, and of the Saviour-Gods, and of the Brother-loving Gods, and of the Beneficent Gods,
4. and of the Father-loving Gods, and of the God who maketh himself manifest; when DEMETRIA, the daughter of Telemachus, was bearer of the
5. prize of victory of BERENICE, the Beneficent Goddess; and when ARSINOË, the daughter of CADMUS, was the Basket Bearer of ARSINOË, the Brother-loving Goddess;
6. when IRENE, the daughter of PTOLEMY, was the Priestess of ARSINOË, the Father-loving Goddess; on this day the superintendents of the temples, and the servants of the god, and those who are over the secret things of the god, and the libationers [who] go into the most holy place to array the gods in then apparel,
7. and the scribes of the holy writings, and the sages of the Double House of Life, and the other libationers [who] had come from the sanctuaries of the South and the North to MEMPHIS, on the day of the festival, whereon
S. His Majesty, the King of the South and North PTOLEMY, the ever-living, the beloved of Ptaḥ, the god who maketh himself manifest, the lord of beauties, received the sovereignty from his father, entered into the SEḤETCH-CHAMBER, wherein they were wont to assemble, in MAKHA-TAUI 1, and behold they declared thus:—

9. “Inasmuch as the King who is beloved by the gods, the King of the South and North Neterui-merui-ȧtui-ȧua-en-Ptaḥ-setep-en-usr-ka Rā ānkh-sekhem-Ȧmen, the Son of the Sun Ptolemy, the ever-living, beloved of Ptaḥ, the Gods who have made themselves manifest, the lord of beauties, hath given things of all kinds in very large quantities unto the lands of Horus and unto all

10. “those who dwell in them, and unto each and every one who holdeth any dignity whatsoever in them, now behold, he is like unto a God, being the son of a God [and] he was given by a Goddess, for he is the counterpart of Horus, the son of Isis [and] the son of Osiris, the avenger of his father Osiris—and behold, His Majesty.

11. “possessed a divine heart which was beneficent towards the gods; and he hath given gold in large quantities, and grain in large quantities to the temples and he hath given very many lavish gifts in order to make Ta-Mert [Egypt] prosperous, and to make stable [her] advancement;

dr.Artis --- you should be concerned as I, Steve DEDICATED "The Philosophy of Language" to YOU-----

as for POOR, do not worry about my FAMILY, we are as djSays---"rich" and as Believers of the Creator of Adaam(as) and the Family of Adaam(as) firmly on the Right Path.....


Wednesday, February 20th 2013 at 9:02AM
powell robert
Thank you Irma for helping me to the Lotus Sutra.
Wednesday, February 20th 2013 at 1:45PM
Steve Williams
Yet I did meet you Irma.

Mandarava blossoms rain down,
scattering over the Buddha and the great assembly.
My pure land is not destroyed.

Wednesday, February 20th 2013 at 6:49PM
Steve Williams
yes we can...

Wednesday, February 20th 2013 at 7:37PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis

if you want to understand the Philosophy of the Language of Our Father, elijah----lets do it HERE on your BLOG......which i still say is the BEST.......

steve --- i am an African American at BIA

i understand the LANGUAGE of the BIA preamble

i understand yourDNA offSubject Tactics

but --- you cry for CIVILITER

yet YOU do not castigate a SUBJECT, against a longDead man?

you have NO sense of CIVILITER, in my opinion---

Philosophy of Language

such a powerful tool to understand RECORDED languages of the Family of Adaam(as) AND Monotheism has so many years of Continuous History, Scholarship and Science-5,000+ YEARS

i, as a Believer of the Creator of Adaam(as) ---i submit and ACCEPT ALL the great WORDS(put into books) from the Creator; Allaah, Al Haq, AlAziz; from AtTaurat, AlIngeel, AzZaboor and AlQur'aan--

i, accept all the Prophets, some that we know, some we have no recorded words or books---from Allaah, AlBari, AlMaleek, AlGhafouruRaheem-whether they be Nuh, Ibraheem, Musa, Yusuf, Ishaq, Ismaeel, IsaIbnMaryam or Mohamed(asm)

That LANGUAGE is STILL in 2013 is still used in its ORIGINAL content and form for the LONGEST period of Monotheistic Scholarship

CIVILITER MORTUUS

lets go..............

Tuesday, April 23rd 2013 at 9:11AM
powell robert
oh Robert... Cyberlistically .... you and Steve's cyber=friendship will be alright. You know how Steve is "on all the time" he gets excited when he discovers new things... Soon he will be back down to his cyber=cool self...

I;m still trying to figure out these new cartoon imposters!


Tuesday, April 23rd 2013 at 9:22PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis

as STEVE and i ALWAYS have AGREED, Language and its Philosophy are IMPORTANT
-------Race identification is ignorant --- colorWorship is NONSENSE

This is BIA, a social network for African AMerican Families to SHATTER stereotypes and misconception......i came to follow BIA Preamble -- not to be a friend of Cartoons, negros and *****s......

well ONE BIG misconception--- stereotype is:

WHO is the *****?

Who made the *****?

Why make a *****?

Who benefits from *****s?

What Qualities are *****ISH?

i, robertPowell, have READ steve for someTIme now and i CONCLUDE that *****ISM is in hisDNA--more than ANY at BIA, other than maybe tillergass.........






Tuesday, April 23rd 2013 at 9:43PM
powell robert
James Baldwin “Who is the *****”, 1963

I know this, and anyone who as ever tried to live knows this. What you say about someone else – anybody else reveals you. What I think of you as being … is dictated by my own necessity, my own psychology – my own fears and desires. I’m not describing you, when I’m talking about you – I’m describing me.”

James Baldwin is one of the greatest writers of the 20th century. But then again, I’m kinda biased. I love him. Like looove, love this Black gay man, whose writing transports me to another time and place, while simultaneously feeling so familiar. So, I stalk him. I stalk him posthumously through his novels, writings and videos to gain more insight into what made him tick, what his struggles were, what he loved.

What resonated with me about this particular video though, is the universal experience we’ve all had being referred to, thought of as, or called something we inherently are not. Not because of something we’ve done, mind you - but because of the way others “interpret” us. Those of us that “transgress” gender norms are often given titles and names that don’t fit who we are – but are more representative of the fears and desires of others. I’ve often felt that people’s projections of me are oftentimes just that – their projections. However, Baldwin’s ending sums up a solution to this perfectly:

“A person is more important than anything else. But you still think, I gather, that the ***** is necessary. Well he’s unnecessary to me - he must be necessary to you. Well, I’m going to give your problem back to you…you’re the *****, baby…not me.”

So Dope.



http://bklynboihood.squarespace.com/blog/2...






Tuesday, April 23rd 2013 at 10:34PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Nice find Cynthia.
Wednesday, April 24th 2013 at 3:33AM
Steve Williams
Thanks... As I was reading Robert's comments; he asks the question Who Is The *****?
James Baldwin's reasoning really surpasses my personal views....

Steve... Is that a Camping Photo?

Wednesday, April 24th 2013 at 9:44AM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
It was just a day outing at Yosemite. The baby is my grandson, he'll be 6 in August.
Wednesday, April 24th 2013 at 9:58AM
Steve Williams
ok...

Wednesday, April 24th 2013 at 10:13AM
Cynthia Merrill Artis

thank you drArtis

"AND the FIRE next Time"

but the question is to the guy on an African American WWWEB site for Families that does not feel that he has to ANSWER any QUESTIONS to African AMericans --- the superior*****.......

NOW---answer *****

Who made the *****?

Why make a *****?

Who benefits from *****s?

What Qualities are *****ISH?

i, robertPowell, have READ steve for someTIme now and i CONCLUDE that *****ISM is in hisDNA--more than ANY at BIA, other than maybe tillergass.........


Thursday, April 25th 2013 at 9:11AM
powell robert
WOW... this feud is still going on between you and Steve? You two must "discuss - the issues"..


first question... What has Steve Wonder done that has been offensive to you?
Why do you feel that Steve is acting insensitive to "our" BIA issues?

I'm reading.... your response please?

Steve, why do you assume that you can DeNig%$# Thurgood Marshall?
Steve why do you insult Robert with the use of Pagan Christian Slavery terminology?


Thursday, April 25th 2013 at 10:29AM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Robert, I don't use the word "*****" (except in a quote obviously). You'll either have to rephrase your question, or supply the answers yourself.
Thursday, April 25th 2013 at 3:06PM
Steve Williams
Cynthia, the answer is simple enough. Robert disapproves of my friendship with David, that I told Jake it was up to him to stop the feud, and that I understand and respect those who call themselves Black.
Thursday, April 25th 2013 at 3:11PM
Steve Williams
Robert, have you ever noticed that the Preamble you follow begins with the words "Black in America"?
Thursday, April 25th 2013 at 3:25PM
Steve Williams
Robert, and in what way are you distinguishing me from African American? Is that your way of calling me White without actually saying the word?
Thursday, April 25th 2013 at 3:34PM
Steve Williams
On second thought Robert, I think I can safely answer your first question.

WHO is the *****?

It could be:

a) Irma, or
b) a personal mental construct.

If the latter, then my personal answer is:

A word that Mark Twain used in some of his stories.

Yours?

Thursday, April 25th 2013 at 3:49PM
Steve Williams
Ummm... I thought David and Robert had patched up some of their differences.

And also, I saw that Robert and Curtis are now friends...

Steve you and I both know... That Robert is very outspoken (typing) and he doesn't hold back when it comes to expressing his opinions... WHICH he at times tend to push off on others... BUT he's still our Brotha and it wouldn't be the same without him... (I know Id miss him)...

Robert is ole... he's set in his standard way of thinking... BUT there is alot we can still learn from him....



so you two make up....


Thursday, April 25th 2013 at 3:50PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Robert is a great friend of mine. We're just having a friendly sparring match.
Thursday, April 25th 2013 at 4:36PM
Steve Williams
We're both too old to do any damage.
Thursday, April 25th 2013 at 4:41PM
Steve Williams

when i think of academicWriting excellence --- i think of quotes of great BIA commentors HERE
"since Reconstruction, fighting over race rather than banding together .......The racism that people still hold dear to is the cause....., but that is us doing it to ourselves rather than anything that is occuring because of behavior that is ------ genetically inspired."
Sunday, July 18th 2010 at 8:00PM ------Clark Maxwell
AND
"My point is to show how deeply ingrained in our consciousness is the word racist, even though no objective meaning exists for race. So now racist is based on skin color, but subconsciously it reinforces the obsolete idea of race." Wednesday, July 21st 2010 at 8:02AM -------Steve Williams
AND
"Steve, race is a concept; racism is something real that has tangible, negative effects on people. In an ideal society it is possible that you could have "race" without racism, but under no condition could you ever have racism without the concept of race."
Wednesday, July 21st 2010 at 1:09PM ---Clark Maxwell

Philosophy of Language with the guy that did not accept the blogKing was great!
but
steve Language has become littleStevey -- i wonderWriting

but --- you decide to answer ?

On second thought Robert, I think I can safely answer your first question.

WHO is the *****?

It could be:
a) Irma, or
b) a personal mental construct.
i, agree with CLARK and STEVE above
-----the ***** is mentalConstruct, mentalObstruction, mentalDivison and racistIgnorance
----- its GENESIS is the slaverAmericana paganChristian experience
-----europeanDNA of falseMonotheistic thought MADE the *****, for GENOCIDE against the nonEuropean, and the only winners are the racistIgnorant antiThesis of The Creator of Adaam(as)

since we are BIA, this 'blackWhite' Misconception ---which is IGNORANCE---has to be SHATTERED

thats the only damage i can do............


Saturday, April 27th 2013 at 9:59AM
powell robert
Robert,

You want to continue your dispute with David, who is black and proud. I chose to discontinue dispute. It doesn't mean I've changed my thoughts about race, or the word now under consideration. Irma uses it with pride, but you as a pejorative.

Saturday, April 27th 2013 at 2:06PM
Steve Williams
In fact Robert, as many times as I've seen the word used here, it is only you Robert that uses it as a pejorative. Interesting, the lone ranger shattering stereotypes.
Saturday, April 27th 2013 at 2:11PM
Steve Williams
And Robert, David has brought many great topics to the site. I know you don't like them, but I do.
Saturday, April 27th 2013 at 2:16PM
Steve Williams
Which reminds me, I'm not finished with the Olmec heads and the Africans that came before the Muslims.
Saturday, April 27th 2013 at 3:22PM
Steve Williams

pe·jo·ra·tive

having a disparaging, derogatory, or belittling effect or force: the pejorative affix -ling in princeling.

a pejorative form or word, as poetaster.

you are incorrect ---- ***** is an Adjective that DESCRIBES the following--------

the first guy who thought about stealing the Natives' Land and Gold
the first guy who thought about stealing Africans
the first guy who thought that Natives were Indians
the first guy who thought that Africans were 'black'
the first Pope that wrote CIVILITER MORTUUS
the first Master that raped an African slave
the first Master that sold his offspring to be raped
lying, stealing, cheatin 'blackWhite' racistialisticRacists ARE all *****S...........

thats not pejoritive.........thats FACT.............

i never dispute with david
----- she/he/it is a cartoon, a rude filthy writer, antiIslaamic and a selfProfessed -----'blackPerson'
----- i JUST follow BIA Preamble and Rules as an African American Family man that wishes to SHATTER, stereotypes and Liars
......and Follow the Change of President Baraaka Hussein Obama

thats it---in any language...........






Saturday, April 27th 2013 at 10:31PM
powell robert
A very good follow on to race, pejorative.
Sunday, April 28th 2013 at 9:10PM
Steve Williams
And of course to civiliter.
Sunday, April 28th 2013 at 9:13PM
Steve Williams
You are right about the meeting Irma, I said so to my wife just today.
Sunday, April 28th 2013 at 10:05PM
Steve Williams
Off-topic again, oh well. I'll be getting those seeds tomorrow.
Sunday, April 28th 2013 at 10:07PM
Steve Williams
I don't think Robert can top the easter bunny expert (S-M-I-L-E)
Monday, April 29th 2013 at 1:18AM
Steve Williams
Irma, I still want to get that video from my daughter-in-law. I should have thought to ask her about it yesterday. I hope you had a good dinner and the weight loss stops. My problem is too much fast food, they seem to keep using less meat and more bread. But I did find a good cheesesteak shop right down the road. What I really need to do is more of my own cooking.
Monday, April 29th 2013 at 12:55PM
Steve Williams

drArtis---understands many times --- baldwin said:
“A person is more important than anything else. But you still think, I gather, that the ***** is necessary. Well he’s unnecessary to me - he must be necessary to you. Well, I’m going to give your problem back to you…you’re the *****, baby…not me.”

ABSOLUTELY

Deoxyribonucleic acid (DNA)
----------is a molecule that encodes the genetic instructions used in the development and functioning of all known living organisms and many viruses.

again
--- i have already given youALL the definition of DNA, and my DISGUST for the racialisticRacism of colorWorship.........
--- i have since DAY ONE, written that my Belief is Monotheistic Thought of the Creator of Adaam(as)

SO I DO NOT! --- as --- slaverAmericana1492-1864 did ----DISTINGUISH men/women as colors
--- there has only been ONE ADAAM(as) -- from one Creator
--- DNA is the genetic instructions that develop human ORGANISMS---and VIRUSES in the mind of men/women

racialisticRacism is a VIRUSES in the FAMILY of Adaam(as)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

--- steve in the beginning of our writtenCommunication stayed in an intellectualDNA mode.....
--- then exBlog King, after calling steve - every filthy 'whiteName' a 'blackMan' could call him;
SIDED with the filthyDNA *****Virus of the biaCARTOONS-----
---- against the INTELLECTUAL growth DNA AND with the virusDNA of filth, decadence and LIES

i could have cared less if he met sweetIrma
----she claims the same virusDNA of her son? and daughter? VIRAL ignorance...

so BACK to the no Question answerer
--- give the readers of BIA your thoughts.....minus yourIgnorant DNA virus........


Monday, April 29th 2013 at 6:44PM
powell robert
Robert... thank you... you provide more wisdom to this younger scholar (me)
.....

but Robert unfortunately our people once lived in highly organized social systems based on "our" cultural reality. they came to America under the brute force of violence and torture; not as immigrants but "stolen" and thrown to a nightmarish terror of hell, rape, brutal beatings, and violence.

for anyone to imply that black is a curse.. or black people are ignorant and have no morals and values. Or even to think as were told to the Germans we have tails.... is in my mind IS PURE IGNORANCE....

my DNA is awesome.... how many flavors of browness can you get from a cocoa brown complexion woman whom mets a sepia, mahogany or burnt sienna brown man....

Monday, April 29th 2013 at 7:37PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
chanted.....

time flew by and neither of you had a camera or cellPhone

just ndb chanting................


Saturday, January 5th 2013 at 12:59PM
powell robert

http://www.blackwomenconnect.com/content/2...

Monday, April 29th 2013 at 7:51PM
Steve Williams

drArtis

DNA of slaverAmericana 1492-1864(1964) is full of Filth, Evil, lies, racistIgnorance and *****S of primarily European Origin and African Origin that accepted the FILTH, Evil, and racisticLy ignorant colorWorship in 1865.




Tuesday, April 30th 2013 at 9:14AM
powell robert
Irma....
if you leave.... I leave....

Tuesday, April 30th 2013 at 1:32PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Robert....
Yes... hey are you blocked again... I haven't read any comments from you on David's blog....?


Tuesday, April 30th 2013 at 1:34PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis

steve --- i hate to go offSUBJECT today, but i am drained from clearing 15 inches of snow....

drArtis, no match-no king--servantBoy to steveDJ

i could care less if he blocks/deletes---my Brother AB Madyun is taking care of his antiIslaamic nonSense

sweetIrma,

LEAVE jenFad----my biaWriting INSPIRATION alone..............pleeze!

STOP writing yourGossip IRMA!

demean??????

you allow your dnaMaster *****Cousin steve to DEMEAN us all with his CIVILITER MORTUUS

and

your pastor Tillgasass DEMEAN elijahMuhammad

and

yourSon, dj, with his BIA Rules Breaking---antiIslaamicISM

and

yourDaughter----that trifling thing DEMEANING Imam Warith Deen Muhammad
................................may Allaah reward his servants.........................................

and the young African American is Y A I Q A B...........notsanti


Thursday, May 2nd 2013 at 12:44PM
powell robert
What is it Robert? You have beautiful streams, rivers, and lakes... I wish I did, I used to.
Friday, May 3rd 2013 at 8:18AM
Steve Williams

THIS IS: THIS SUBJECT-------Philosophy of Language ---- CIVILITER MORTUUS

CIVILITER was yourSUBJECT to BIA, African AMerican Families........

MIISRAEL asked you to put it in a SENTENCE---what does it mean?

you demeaned her by not answering --- because there is no word CIVILITER

CIVILITER MORTUUS is the expression and PHILOSOPHY used by paganChristianity by POPEistic racistIgnorance
----MANS INHUMANITY TO MAN
--- to JUSTIFY the genocide of NativeAmericans and the DESTRUCTION of slaverAmericana 1492-1864(1964) ----that the VIRAL DNA of Europe SPREAD...........................

oh YES,
----you are still the best researcher---- for all i know your employer is the dnaOF surveilance and continued paganChristian DIVISION and DESTRUCTION of The Family of Adaam(as)

yourNOM de DIVISION

beautiful streams, rivers, and lakes are for ALL the Family of Adaam(as) to enjoy from the Creator of the Heavens and the Earth
.......you do not have any? and could care less
------ due to your viralDNA of DIVISON and DESTRUCTION




Friday, May 3rd 2013 at 9:08AM
powell robert
Could care less? How's the duck population in the land of 10,000 lakes?
Friday, May 3rd 2013 at 10:05AM
Steve Williams
Is your head that deep in the sand Robert? What's the number of the burden you personally have put on this earth?
Friday, May 3rd 2013 at 10:08AM
Steve Williams

you care less to ---- ANSWER---- viralDNA of Deception and Disrespect?

what you too smart for African American Families?

----dont care about ducks
----BURDEN?

i, robertPowell, apologize for giving BIA the burden of steveAdam.....sand....n*gga





Friday, May 3rd 2013 at 7:47PM
powell robert
Why wouldn't you care about the ducks Robert? They are beautiful creatures. I used to hunt them but no more. They are more be beautiful alive, and they are threatened by loss of habitat. Loss of habitat to humans Robert. Whether hunting does more harm than good isn't clear to me, because the hunters are the ones primarily working to preserve their habitat but they are still killing the ducks. But the rise in human population is relentless, and it's not just the ducks that are threatened, but humanity itself.
Friday, May 3rd 2013 at 8:00PM
Steve Williams

offSubject --- ducks --- aviaryDisease
----duck poop everywhere
----many americans are dogOwners--and their filthy dogs bring into many homes the diseases of the duckPoop on their feet.....that is a greater danger to humanity...........pandemicEinstein....

back to your noAnswers on YOUR blags.............

CIVILTER MORTUUS was justification to declare the native and african NOTHING....
CIVILTER MORTUUS was used from 1492 on
---- even DRED SCOTT was a victum of this dnaHatred of HUMANITY

why would you -- a liberal -- on an AfricanAmerican wwweb site bring this up?

since you do not ANSWER, or feelSuperior--- i will ANSWER for you ---

you think African Americans are too stupid to SEE you, ..... n*gga........




Friday, May 3rd 2013 at 8:35PM
powell robert
Good grief Robert.
Friday, May 3rd 2013 at 9:46PM
Steve Williams
@Robert... LMAO..... LMAO..... LMA..... LOL
ROBERT... Oh My Goodness..... You pulled the race card on Steve.... YOU who never crticizes race...

============
Steve... you have awaken the ole African American Mann
((that the VIRAL DNA of Europe SPREAD
you allow your dnaMaster *****Cousin steve to DEMEAN us all with his CIVILITER MORTUUS ))

LOL!!!
======= I love my BIA Family======


Saturday, May 4th 2013 at 12:56AM
Cynthia Merrill Artis

i pulled the "he cant help himself in his DNA"

again, for the 999,111,225th time --- there was ONLY one Adaam(as) --- there is only one Creator....there is one Family of Adaam(as)

but this n*gga, thinks he can inject his paganChristian colorWorship superiorityDNA at BIA, an African American Family site---well African Americans like myself and MIISRAEL see hisFilth, bia'Black' people are STEREOTYPICALLY--- just uncleTOMING...

MIISRAEL asked him a SIMPLE question---use HIS SUBJECT word--CIVILITER in a sentence

----the n*gga, ignored her---SHE SEES him just as I do -----

MIISRAEL is from TENNESSEE and MANY a southern and northern slave or freedSlave was TRIED, TARRED and CASTRATED
------with the CIVILITER MORTUUS LAW--legalChristian, legalUSA racistIgnorant LAWS.

i GIVE steve his APPROPRIATE adjective--- viralDNA of masterSlave RACISM..........

again, PROVE me WRONG---- use CIVILITER in a sentence..............


Saturday, May 4th 2013 at 9:32AM
powell robert
Steve use the word (use CIVILITER in a sentence.............. )

I tried... but I can't.....

Saturday, May 4th 2013 at 3:17PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
How many times must I do so Robert?

In complimentary terms...

76 Junia, too, born niece to Cato, wife of Caius Cassius, sister of Marcus Brutus, looked her last on life, sixty-three full years after the field of Philippi. Her will was busily discussed by the crowd; because in disposing of her great wealth she mentioned nearly every patrician of note in complimentary terms, but omitted the Caesar. The slur was taken in good part, and he offered no objection to the celebration of her funeral with a panegyric at the Rostra and the rest of the customary ceremonies. The effigies of twenty great houses preceded her to the tomb — members of the Manlian and Quinctian families, and names of equal splendour. But Brutus and Cassius shone brighter than all by the very fact that their portraits were unseen.

http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roma...

Friday, April 26th 2013 at 11:31PM
Steve Williams | delete

Sunday, May 5th 2013 at 3:27AM
Steve Williams
76. Et Iunia s*xagesimo quarto post Philippensem aciem anno supremum diem explevit, Catone avunculo genita, C. Cassii uxor, M. Bruti soror. testamentum eius multo apud vulgum rumore fuit, quia in magnis opibus cum ferme cunctos proceres cum honore nominavisset Caesarem omisit. quod civiliter acceptum neque prohibuit quo minus laudatione pro rostris ceterisque sollemnibus funus cohonestaretur. viginti clarissimarum familiarum imagines antelatae sunt, Manlii, Quinctii aliaque eiusdem nobilitatis nomina. sed praefulgebant Cassius atque Brutus eo ipso quod effigies eorum non visebantur.
Sunday, May 5th 2013 at 3:37AM
Steve Williams
Oops.

quod civiliter acceptum

taken in good part...

Sunday, May 5th 2013 at 3:41AM
Steve Williams
CIVILITER. Civilly; opposed to criminaliter or criminally.

2. When a person does an unlawful act injurious to another, whether with or without an intention to commit a tort, he is responsible civiliter.



In order to make him liable criminaliter, he must have intended to do the wrong; for it is a maxim, actus non facit reum nisi mens sit rea. 2 East, 104.


Sunday, May 5th 2013 at 3:42AM
Aphrodite Cox
Or

graciously...

76. Junia too, the niece of Cato, wife of Caius Cassius and sister of Marcus Brutus, died this year, the sixty-fourth after the battle of Philippi. Her will was the theme of much popular criticism, for, with her vast wealth, after having honourably mentioned almost every nobleman by name, she passed over the emperor. Tiberius took the omission graciously and did not forbid a panegyric before the Rostra with the other customary funeral honours. The busts of twenty most illustrious families were borne in the procession, with the names of Manlius, Quinctius, and others of equal rank. But Cassius and Brutus outshone them all, from the very fact that their likenesses were not to be seen.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/tac/a03070...

Sunday, May 5th 2013 at 3:47AM
Steve Williams
Absolutely Aphrodite. Criminal vs. civil law.
Sunday, May 5th 2013 at 3:53AM
Steve Williams

SUBJECT---yourSUBJECT ---- Philosophy of Language

latin --- CIVILITER -- no USAGE in modernWorld

latin --- CIVILITER Mortuus -- used to justifySlavery, racialIgnorance

WHY?

Civiliter (389 hits)

civiliter, adv. [civilis], citizen-like, as becomes a private citizen. Posted By: Steve Williams ---Thursday, April 18th 2013 at 8:29PM

help us dear civil biaWriter?

@Steve give an example{s} of how one is use that word in a sentence, question, or statement..or any of the stated? {Smiles}
Friday, April 19th 2013 at 10:26AM -------MIISRAEL Bride

i am near blindness--toooOLDE
-----SO I WILL SAY i, DID NOT SEE the Sentence---using CIVILITER
------i, did not SEE your CIVIL response to MIISRAEL
-----as, MIISRAEL, asked the AUTHOR of CIVILITER and Philosophy of Language----"a sentence, question, or statement..or any of the stated?"

so AGAIN,

prove to me and my BIA African American FRIENDS that you are not the MOST STEREOTYPICAL
racististicalIgnorant dnaVirus writer------at BIA...............n*ggaMaster


Sunday, May 5th 2013 at 12:49PM
powell robert
The only constant is change...and th e more things change the more it remains...this is why our dictionary continues to add new words to our language and removing some at the same time.

And, hopefully one day we will eliminate the need to abuse the word RACE...by way of making RACE = CULTURE and not RACE = DEFICIENT. (S-M-I-L-E)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
Now my brother my comment to your last comment is more simple.

ALL PEOPLE WIT DARK SKIN AKA BLACK PEOPLE..AFRICAN-AMERICAN= BLACKS 'ARE NOT THE SAME'...AS ANYONE ELSE WE ARE INDIVIDUALS AND TH EONLY EXPERTS ON SELF...

"I"C-H-O-S-E TO IDENTIFY AS AFRICAN-AMERICA AND DEMAND TO BE RESPECTED AS "I" WILL RESPECT THE PERSON WHO C-H-O-S-E TO IDENTIFY AS NEGRO. (S-M-I-L-E)...

YOU SEE NOW WHAT "I" MEAN BY CHANGE AS I AM OLD ENOUGH TO HAVE BEEN LIVING IN AMERICA WHEN MY GOVERNMENT WOULD NOT HAVE CONSIDERED MY A CITIZEN IF "I" had IDENTIFIEd AS ANY THING ELSE BUT "NEGRO" .

EDUCATE AND REEDUCATE, P-R-O-P-E-R-L-Y AND TRUTHFULLY HAS NOT BEEN ACCEPTED IN AMERICA...Y-E-T. (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
Simple answer, where would a child in say the first grade go to get educated in "CULTURE"......THE SECOND...........8TH AND SO ON.....(SMILE)

I believe clark gave a story of how he learned someting about 'culture' when he was followed around the store and how his childrenlearned at the fair is a shame, but culture like s*xual education is bared in school and if not then this will be because a few states don't succed ingething Ethnic study taken out and tose books get changed like the state of TX, wants. (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
Thumper, please forgive me, I just realize taht you and I are talking about two different things when we say culture...when I say culture I am talking about customs of a race...for example my culture see the female as the head of the house hold...because we have 'extended family we have no need of 'adoptioons,abortions or baby sitters, ect. (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
Maybe this will halp also...africanas as so many believe were brought from Africa to America..this is the European version of BIA and not ours...ours said we were brought from Africa to southe America and points in that part of teh workd to get our Africnism beathen, learned, religioned out of us...

Steve you mentioned what your church members were doing..well my brother this was done back then, but as we all know this had to be taught in the fashion of the conquores as always...(smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
...someting just hit me..we do have a truth called INDIAN NATION...HOW WOUDL THIS CHRISTIAN NATION TAKE IT IF THE AMERICAN-AMERICANS STARTED DOING WHAT ARIZOAN IS DOING...DON'T BE SUPRISED AT WHAT IS IN AMERICA'S FUTURE. (S-M-I-L-E)

UNITED WE STAND WORKS BOTH WAYS. LOL
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
Also Thumper most of Americans will say poor city of Oakland theya e in such great need they had to send out a white female and not their Black police to toell the worldk that this most VIOLENT CITY IN AMERICA IS SO POOR THEY CAN NOT SEND THEIR POLICE OUT ON HOUSE BREAK INS...


ME i SAY THEY SENT OUT A WHITE WOMAN REPRESENTING A BLACK CITY TO PUT EMPHIS ON HOW THEIR SAFTY IS IN MORTAL DANGERS FROM THE DRUG ADDICTS AND RAPIST..."I" ALSO SAY THE OAKLAND POLICE DEPT. ISON BOYCOTT AND THEY AR IN HOOPES THAT TIS WILL BEING IN THE MONEY THAT FAKE RIOT DID NOT... (NUP) ONLY BECAUSE WE LIVE IN A CHRISTIAN COUNTRY AND NOT ONE OF EQUAL RELIGIONS TAHT CAN SPEAK OUT IN TRUTH AS ME BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW "I" DON'T FEAR GOING TO HELL FOR SPEAKING THE TRUTH...AND I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THE ONLY WAY TO GET TO HEAVEN IS TO DIE..."I" AM NOT IN FEAR OF GOING TO HEAVEN...

THIS KIND OF (nup) MEANS IT IS TIME FO RME TO LEAVE...LOV YA ALL...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
@ cHYNTHIA, speaking personally the differeences fo rme is "I" own being called Black. but do not own being called ***** yet as the white youth have as a sign of friendship from them,

ownership means that I have lived long enough to see the being called Black not be a fighting / killing on if a white person called me this. (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
Harry as I don't believe that race is objective as you just defined it as...I must respectfully disagree wit you and say Race is subjective. example...

Why do some people like M.C ary and a few others have to insist they are members of the BLACK RACE because a lot of her devote fans keep on insisting she is a member of the White Race?!? (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
...Some who call members with their 'skin - color' ***** LOVERS don't consider them members of their race and no one can get me to claiim O. J. simpson as a member of my race and even Tiger Woods reject being classifies as Black race member...(smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
...that was meant to say 'some members of the WHITE RACE that are called ***** lovers'...

(smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
Steve, it is my understanding that what we today call homo sapien began in Africa...L-U-C-Y seem to be the referense being used by science as the beginning and then the need for allowing into the body of vitiam D has caused these skin color mutations so the mankind as we know it can survive...

as fo rme, "I" look at the scientific (objective ) path as the road to peace and unity ...

(smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
...Harry "I" meant to say NO ONE CAN GET ME TO CLAIM O.J... so sorry about that. lol (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
Harry, yes tey did. only they existed under a different social classification as this was not it the 21st century...they existed under socially accepted names like...

EXPLORERS, INDENTURED SERVENTS, HUMAN BEINGS, UNDER THE NAMES OF THE INDIAN TRIBES THEY RESIDED WITH (BECAUSE THEY LIVED AMONG NATIVE-AMERICANS AS 'EQUALS S'..will stpo now as "I" am dealing with a small unopened mind. lol (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
...my bad Harry I left out under the names of the countless countrys taht had ownership of different parts of pre America also. lol (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
DOC.the part of biology you are refering to still gives me bad dreams just thinking about it. lol (smile)

NOw when you use the expression 'scary' Doc. well that part of biology is 'S-C-A-R-Y' fo rme!!! (otfl) (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
O.K. you two, I will be keeping a close eye on you. lol... (smile)

HISTORY...LANGUAGE IS ALWAYS TAUGHT THROUGH THE EYES OF THE CONQUER.
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
Lets try to get help for this dislogue by subsutiting "race" for the word ABSOLUTE...
THIS THEME ( RACE) SEEMS TO MATCH ALL OF the definitions of thiS word in my AMERICAN HERATIAGE DICTIONARY (SECOND COLLEG EDITION OF IT)

(SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
...but, "I' still stick with Race is always going to return right back to subjective, persoanl conclusions on how to define what race is...and subjected to change meanings with time and social acceptance. (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
mY ONLY PROBLEM WITH GOING AGAINST WHAT Sylvainy as related with his argument of this as the Bible (no not the age or the Truths within it)relates this or any other thing as truth/ facts is...science can prove how old man is and if science is wrong then this leave the genes related to the ape's CSI makeing it even more closer to Sylvainy'sbeing more objective than subjective under the old or the new or even back long before St. Paul stated the diversion from Judism and on to Christianity and the Luther and the coming to America to get Freedom of Religion and slavery and language called English which is more German than English and here we are in 21st century... (smile)

ISN'T DIALOGUEING FUN WITHOUT THE TREAT OF BEING BURNED AT THE STAKE FO RIT????? (otfl)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
Steve, just before coming to your blog I was at one of Siebra's blogs...I hAD TO LEAVE HER A MESSAGE on her blog about the N WORD BEING USED IN A PTA MEETING...

I told her how I got a kick out of reading her post, because I believe it falls right into the catagory of what we have been discussing for days on this blog of yours. loooooooooooooooool (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
WOW@STEVE...

AFTER SEEING THE NUMBEROF HITS,I NOW KNOW WHY IT TOOK ME A WHOLE DAY TO BRING YOUR BLOG UP.LOL!!!(SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
@AUNT CYNT& BROTHER RABIT, ROBERT HAS BEEN 'CHANTING' AND AGREEING I AM ONE OF HIS FAVORITEPEOPLES AND HE AND I HAVE BEEN DEFENDING EACH OTHER SINCE LONG BEFORE I MET YOU AND STEVE. LOL!!! (SMILE)

WHEN HE AND I GET REALLY SICK OF EACHOHER WE JUST END OUR FRIEND SHIP NAMES ON OUR LIST...BUTSINCE WE JUST GOBACKTOP BEING ON EACH OTHER'S LIST WE JUST DON'T EVEN BOTHER TO DO TIS ANY MORE.LOL!!!...

ME, AS A NDB CALL THIS CAUSE AND EFFECT, LEAVING TH ELOWER 4 WORLDS, HUMAN REVELOTUION, BUT ROBERT MAKES IT EASIER AND USES ONLY ONE WORD, SWEETIRMA/INSPIRING...

AND, WE WILLNEVER BEABLE T GETPASTTHE 'EARTH IS FALT" AS LONG AS WE CONTINUE TO BELIEVEWE HAVE "FREEDOM OF RELIGION BECAUSE WEKNOW AS LONG AS WE DON'T HAVE FREEDOM OF RELIGON WE WILLNEVER HAVE THECIVIL,LEGA,L RIGHTS TO ASSEMBLE AND DIALOGUE UNDER THE RULESOF DIALOGUE...ALLOWING THE OTHER SIDE UNCONDITIONAL ROGHTS TO EXIST...(NUP/SMILE)

POOR STEVE CAN'T EVEN USE HIS OWN PHONE TO HAVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH...WHAT A PITY ASIT ALL COMESUNDER THE CLASSIFICATIONOFLETS SAY THE THERMEOF THIS POST IS BEING USED TO PROVE THIS, RIGHT HARRY AND ROBERT SINCE YOU BOTH ARE IN FULL AGREEMENT WITH THIS...(NUP/SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
@STEVE EVEN BEFORE YU MET ME IF YOU BELIEVE YOU ARE A MEMBER OF THE HUMAN RACE, HADPOWERS TO OVER COME PROBLEMS AND BE ABLE TO BE HAPPY AND CAUSE PEACE ON EARTH GOOD WILL TO MANKIND...THEN MY BROTHER YOU DDID NOT NEED ME TO HELP YOU WITH THE LOTUS SUTRA BECAUSE STEVE YOU WERE ALREADY THE LOTUS SUTRA...

TO QUOTE NICHIREN DAISHONIN,"IF YOU SEEK THIS PRACTICE OUT SIDE OF YOUR OWN BODY, THEN YOU ARE NOT PRACTING THIS BUDDHISM " (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
PLUS, I CHALLENE ANY RELIGION UNDER ANY NAMED "GOD" IN ANY LANGUAGE,ECT. TO SAY THEY DON'T HAVE IN IT LIFE AFTER DEATH WHICH ORIGINATED IN EGYPT AND WHY ALTHOUGH MY 'RELIGIONIS' OVER 2,000 YEARS OLD AND EVEN OLDER IF WECAN REALIZE IT IS JUST LIKE ANYOTHER RELIGION AS IT IS A KNOCK OFF OF ANOTHER RELIGON BEOFRE IT CALLED THE SKIEK RELSGION (ND DOC. MY DAUGHTER IS A JEHOVHA WITNESS AND WAS TOTALLY SUPRISED WHEN I SHOWED HE HER RELIGION IS A KNOCK OFF OF TEH 7TH DA YAVANTIST TH E ORIGINAL FALL OUT WAS OVER THE EAARTH WILL END AT _______TIME...ME I TEASEDHER IT WAS A BREAK UP OVER SOME WANTED TO EAT MEAT.LOL...ANY WAY I DIGRESS...RELIGIONS HAVE MOVED FORM HOS TO BEST TO SURVIVE INTOHOW BEST TO KEEP ALLDIFERNT TAHN ME FROM SURVIVINGAND IS WHY I DO NOT CALL NDB A RELIGION...

YOU SEE NDB REJECTS WAR , PERIOD BE IT WITH YOU NEXT FOOR NEIGHBOR OR YOU NEIGHBORHOOD NATION AND IT TEACHES NO ONE CAN KNOW EVERY THING SO NEVER STOP TRYING TOLEARN AND IF IT DON'T MAKE COMMON SENSE TO YOU IN A SCIENTIFIC /LOGICAL MANNER OR CAN HELP MAN KIND TO HAVE PEACEAND HAPPINESS THEN DON'T ALLOW IT INTO YOUR DAILY LIFE AND IF YO DO / DON'T DO ANYTHING THEN IT IS STILL ONLYON YOUR. (SMILE)

ASI KEEP SAYING I HAVE NOT TIME TOWASTE ON TEH SMALL STUFF, I LIKE THEBIG PICTURE OR AS OUR PRESIDENT SAYS...SEE YOU WAY OUT SAFELY BEFORE ENTERING INT THE UNKNOWN. LOL(SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
@STEVE YOU AND I MEETIING ON THE SITE AND LATER INPERSON IS THE PROBLEM FOR THE SMALL MINDED SINCE WE CHOOSE TO BE OUR OWN PERSON...SORRY TO SAY IT BUT IF I WERE STILLCATHOLIC I WOULD HAVE TO GO CONFESS TOMAYBE A PREIST WHOHAD JUST MOLESTED A SAMLL CHILD TO BE FORGIVEN ASMY EARTHLY FATHER.GOD FOR BEING SUCH A CLOSE FRIEND AND GIVING UNCONDITIONAL TRUST TO an ATHEIST...AND TIS IS WHY I REFUSE TOWORISHIP ANY AND MADE GODS...I WNT ACTUAL PROOF SINCE EH WORLD IS NOT FLAT...

NOW I WILL SAY THIS...I JUST HEARD ABOUT THE SOUTHERN STATES LIKE ARIZOAN AND MISS. AE UNDER SEVER WEATHER WATCH...AND SINCE THE GOVERNORS OF THESE STATES AR MEMBERS OF HE CHRISTIAN FAAMILY VALUE IF THEY CAME BEFORE TOSE WHO VOTED THEM AS DOING GOD'S JOB...

HERE IS WHAT I CAN PICTURE IN MY MIND'S EYES...GOVERNOR BREWER (T HWAGGER IN OUR PRES. FACE TAHT GOT HER SUCH RESPECT AND A SECOND RUN) COMING BEFORE HER PEOPLES SAYING SOMETING LIKE THIS ABOUT THEY WILL BE HAVING FOR TH E FIRST TIME IN RECORDED HISTORY WEATHER LIKE THEY HAVE IN ANADA AND ALASKA...

THAT TI SHAS NOTHING T DOWITH THEWEATHER PATTERNCHANGES TEH GLOBAL WARMINGS CLAIMERS CLAIM BUT I TIS TIED TO OUR PRESIDENT'S MESSAGE TO TEH FORMER PRES. OF RUSSIA WHEN THEY THOUGH THE MIKE WAS OFF...THNE SAY TIS WETHER SRORM WARMING ABOUT SNOW INOUR DESSERTS IS DUE TO BHO TIEING UP WITH RUSSIA TOUSE THEIR WEATHER MANIPULATION MACHINES...RUSSIAN PLANES WERE DROPPINGOFF TIS EQUIPEMNT NOT LONG AGO AND IS WHY THE RUSIAN PLANES WER NOT SHOT DOWN...THE YSURE WOULD SHOOT ANY OF OUR PLANCE DOWN AS THEY ALWAYS HAVE DONE!!!

"ALL IN THE NAME OF GOD OR MANY WILLNOT BELIEVE A STORY LIKE THIS ATALL...(SMILE)...

YEP MAKE ME TEH ANTI-CHRIST ANY DAY BUT YOU WILL NEVER AGAIN BE ABLE TOMAKE ME FEAR HELL FOR SUING TH EPOWERS OF A MIND GOD GAVE ME LIKE YOU DO...LOL!!!!!!!!LONG LIVE THESE GOVERNORS...


NO, TAHT GOES AS, "THE KING IS DEAD LONG LIVE THE KING" (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
HI STEVE AND SINCE ROBERT IS GOING TO SAY I AM OFF TOPIC, THERE IS SOMETING I MUST SAY TO HIMTHAT HAS BEEN ON MY MIND FOR SOME TIMES NOW...

@ROBERT, I LIKE YOU AND I ALWAYS HAVE...AFTER MOZELL HELPE D ME TO BE ABLE TO SEE HOW YOUR GOAL WAS TO GET ON PEOPLE'S LAST NEVERS I WAS ALRIGHT...BUT THEN ROBERT I BEGAN TO NOTICE A SERIOUS CHANGE IN YOU IN YOUR GOIN GOUTOF YOU WAY TO BE NASTY ON WHAT SEEM TO BE A REAL LIFE RESENTMENT OF STEVE WHEN STEVE AND I MET IN PERSON...YOU KNOW I HAD BEEN IN CONTACT WITH STEVE BY PHONE WAY BACK WHEN I WENT EAST TH ELAST TIME BUT THIS ROBERT WAS FROM YOU ACCEPTABLE BUT THEN WHEN CURTIS AND STEVE BECAME FRIENDS IN DIALOGING YOU SEEM TOHAVE GONE WAY OFF THE DEEP END SO MUCH SO IT IS GETTING HARDER ANDHARDER TO BE ABLE TO TELL YOUR OUT LOOK FROM HARRY'S...

SO ROBERT WHAT IN HE HELL IS GOIN GON WITH YOU ANY WAY??????????...NO ROBERT WHAT YOU DO/ DON'T DO IS NOT A PART OF MY SRVIVAL KIT AND AS A NDB, I BELIEVE LIFE IS A PROCESS AND OUR LIVES CHANGE FROM MOMENT, I ONLY WONDER IF YOU ARE ABLE TO LOOK AT YOUR SELF IN THEEYES OTHERS SEE YOU. (SMILE)...

ROBERT, STEVE'S WHITE DNA YOU HAVE DEFENDED SINCE HE FIRST BECAME A MEMBER AND NOW?????????!!!!!!!!!??????...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
...HELL ROBERT, YOU AND I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN #1 PRESIDENT THOMAS JEFFERSON FANS...AGAIN ROBERT, WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO YOU? (SMILE)...AGAIN, HARRY AND THE NEED TO ENDLESS NAME CALL IN A NEGATIVE MANNER...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
OFF TOPIC ROBERT... WILL SEE YOUHOPEFULLY NEXT SUNDAY AT 10AM...AND SEE IF YOU CAN GET TAMME TO BRING THOSE PICTURES OF MINE...I WPULD LOVE TO MEET YOUR WIFE AND YOU KNOW I AM DYING T MEET TH E EASTER RABBIT EXPECT.LOL. DID YOU SEE THEM OVER THE WEEKEND? GIVE THEM ALL A BIG HUG FROM ME. (SMILE)...

ME, I AM SO GLAD I AM NOT OF THE FAITHOF ROBERT...ANY THING NEGATIVE IS STRESSFUL AS ONEHAS TO BE ON THELOOKOUT BOTHE FRONT, SIDE AND BACKWARDS FOR THE ENEMY ALL OF THEIR PRESENT LIFE TO JUST END UP WITHIN THENEXT LIFE SMILING IN EVERYONES FACE...TOGO FROM THE STRESSFUL T THE BORING IS NOT FOR ME...ME, I AM INTO VARITY, BECAUE IF THEY IS ANY THING I DO NOT ABIDE IS THELACK OF CHANGE, CHANGE IS WHAT I CALL..."PROGRESSING FORWARD" (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
HOW HAS ROBERT BEEN ABLE TO TAKE PART IN THIS DIALOGUE WITHOUT SAYING SOMETING ABOUT ME? NOW THAT IS WHAT IS SUCH A PITY WHEN SOMEONE MUST DEPEND ON SOMEONE ELSE TO BE ABLE TO DEFINE THEIR IDENTITY!!!...OS I REPEAT HOW LONG HAVE I BEEN TAKING A PART AS MYOWN SELF ON THE BLOG COMPARED TO ROBERT TAKING OVER MY ID TO ESTABLISH HIS OWN ID?SO MAYBE HIS ALLAH HAS MADE ME, W-H-A-T???(SMILE)...

BUDDHISM DEFINES THIS AS AN "ILLUSION" ...BUT ILLUSIONS ARE ONLY ONE MORE PARTS OF PROBLEMS THAT BUDDHISM SAYS COMES ALONG WITH THE 4 SUFFERINGS OF: BIRTH, SICKNESS, OLD AGE AND DEATH. LOL!!!...OH AND ALL INBETWEEN...MEET THEM HEAD ON AND CONQURE WHEN THEY GO OUT OF CONTROL NOT ALLOWING VIERITY IN YOUR DAILY LIFEE...LOL...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
...NOW HERE IS SOMETING ROBERT NEVER DOES WHEN CJPSE TP TAKE ON MY ID..."I" USE THE WORD C-U-L-T-U-R-E AND I HAVE NEVER HEARD ROBEERT EVERY TALK ABOUT MY SISTERS AND BROTHERS TAHT CAN PASS FOR WHITE IF THE CHOOSE TO DO SO...ANOTHER PART OF BEING STRESSED OUT ON WHO IS OF WHAT RACE IN THE FIRST PLACE BUT AGAIN A PART OF WHAT BUDDHISM CALLS 'ILLUSION'...ROBERT IF HE SAW MY SSISTERS AND BROTHERS WITH STEVE HE WOULD SWARE AS MANY HAVE THAT THEY LIE ABOUT THEIR DNA...AND MAYBE WHY EVEN TOUGH HENOW SAYS ***** AND BLACK HE WOULD BE AT A LOST IF A TURE TEST CAME INTO PLAY...

AND, AGAIN WHEN I SAY I TEND TO FEEL SORRY FOR MIXED RACE CHILDDREN AND I KNW I HAVE NEVER SUFFERED AS MUCH AS OUR PRESIDENT...MY GRAND MOTHER NEVER LOVED ME MOR OR LESS BECAUSE OF MY SKIN COLOR...BUT ONE CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE IN OUR PRESIDENT WHEN HE SPEAKS OF HIS GRAND MOTHER RAISING HIM AND WHEN HE SPEAKS OF HIS MOTHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...

IN THE REAL WORLD IT IS PAIN HE KNOWS FROMHIS MOTHER THAT CAME FROM HER CHOSING TO GET ASFAR AWAY FROMHE PAIN AND HURT OF HER OWN 'WHITE RACE WAS A LIFE LONG STRUGGLE OF HIS MOM'S!!!NO ONE CAN TEACH YOU ABOUT YOUR OWN RACE OR ANYOTHER PERSON;S RACE AS IT IS ALWAYS AN EXPERIENCE...ROBERT HATES HIS PART OF THE BLACK RACE AS HE SEE IT AS THE CENTER OF HIS LIFE LONG STRUGGLES ANDIS DEPENDANCY OF THE NOIHAS ONLY MADE IM MORE RESISTANCE OF ACCEPTANCE OF HIS BLACK SIDE AND YET WHEN HE LEAVES IT OR TRY TO THEM HITLER HITS HIM LIKE A SOLID ROCK...

ROBERT HOW DO I KNOW ALL OF THIS ABOUT YOU...ROBERT REMEMBER MY TELLING ABOUT MY YEARS AND YEARS OF BEING A PSYCH MAJOR AND MY WANTING TO SPECIALIZE IN HUMAN BEHAVIOR UNTIL THENEED AROSE TO INTERGRATE UCD BROUGHT ME OUT ONCE AGAIN FORTHE NATIONAL NAACP AND I CHANGED MY MAJOR BUTNOT MY MINORS IN PHISLSOPHY AND NATIVE-AMERICA STUDY!!!??? ROBEERT YOU WOULD FINE SO MUCH MORE PEACE AND CONTENTMENT IF YO JUST STUDIED THE 10 WORLDS OF NDB...NO I AM NOT SAYING YOU SHOULD CHANGE RELIGIONS, BUTIT MAY HELP YOU TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHY YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND ON EVERY COMMENT AS BEING NATURAL HUMAN BEHAVIORS...

ROBERT YOU AE A MEMBER OF HE HUMAN RACE AND YOU WOULD BE BETTER OFF IF YOU GOT OVER IT AND JUST ACCEPT IT BECAUSE THIS LIKE IS LIMITED!!!...BUT ROBERT I ALSO UNDERSTAND A PERSONWANTING TO BEMISERABLE ALL THE TIME IS A WAY TO BE THE BEST PERSON THEY CAN BE...I JUST FEEL A LITTLE RESPONSIBLE THAT YOU HAVE BECOME SO DEPENDANT ON ME, ROBERT AND IT IS ANOTHER HUMAN BEHAVIOR BUT NOT A PROBLEM FO RME AT ALL...I HAVE NO GOD, MAN, WOMAN OR CHILD I MUST LIVE MY LIFE FOR THEPLEASURE OF. (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
...OHA ND ROBERT THE REASON I SAY BHO'S GRAND MOTHER IS BECAUSE WE ARE OUR CHILDHOOD AND IT IS OF OUR PARENTS / MAIN CARE GIVERS THAT STANDS OUT IN OUR INDIVIDUAL OUT LOOKS ON LIFE...IF ONE IS LEARNED IN IT SAY READING BODY LANGUAGE IN AN OBEJECTIVE WAY...THEIR IS NOT THE GOOD/ UNCONDITIONAL EMOTION WHEN OBAMA SPEAKS OF HIS GRAND FATHER WHEN HE SPEAKS OF HIS GRANDMOTHER AND WE TEND TO BE MORE PROTECTIVE OF OUR MOTHER'S PAINS AS OUR OWN PAIN. (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
@ STEVE I KNOW HE CAN'T SO I WILLNEVER GIVE HIM THAT CHALLENGE HELL I AM WILLING TO BET HIS SMALL SONS WHEN LITLE WOULD HAVE CHOSEN THEEASTER BUNNY OVER HIM ANYDAY THEREFORE SMALL CHILDREN ARE JUST TOO, TOO HONEST TO PUT ROBERT IN THET IMPOSIBLE POSITION.LOOOOOOL!!!...

OH AND ONE MORE THING ROBERT...REMEMBER ME A PERSON YOU HAVE BEEN DIALOGUING FO RMANY YEARS NOW AND YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO SHOW HOW I HAVE CHANGED IN ANY OF MY POSITIONS FOR EXAMPLE, I HAVE SAID ONE OF MY HUSBANDS IS A MEMBER FO TEH NOI AND CAN'T SEEM TO STAY OUR OF PRISON...AND ON EOF MY BROTHERS LIVE IN N.Y IS A MEMBER OF THENOI AND HAVE 2 FAMILIES...BOTH OF THEM ARE OVER 6FT.5 DO YOU BELIEVE YOU CAN PICK OUT WHICH ONE IS WHICH ? AS WELL AS PICK OUT WHICH OF MY BRTHERS HAVE DON'T HAVE STEVE'S DNA???...YOU AE HE ONE WHO BRINGS UP THESE TINGS ALL THETIME SO DO YOU BELIEVE YOU CAN BACK UP WHAT THE PLEASURE OF YOU ALLAH SAYS YOU SHOULD DO AS I REPEAT YOU BRING TIS UP ALL THE TIME ALONG WITH YOU ONLY DO TINGS AT THEPLEASURE OF ALLAH...I AM WILL TO PUT YOUR ALLAH UP AGAINST MY HUMAN BUDDAH...HOW ABOUT IT ROBERT, GAME ON OR NOT? (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
...AND, MY FAMILY AND FRIENDS REALLY LOVED THE EASTER BUNNY STORY. (SMILE)...I WOULD HAVE GIVEN ANY THING TO HAVE BEEN A FLY ON THE WALL TO SEEE THAT ONE...CHILDENAE SO EXTRA SERIOUS WHEN THEY ARE SMART ENOUGH TO TEACH US ADULTS A TING OR TWO AND THEY AE NOT EVEN CRITICAL OF US BEING SO DUMB EITHER.LOL!!!(SMILE)...I AM JUST CRACKING UP JUST WRITTING THIS THINKING ABOUT THE LOOK ON HER FACE AS SHE GAVE YOU HER LITTLE LECTURE...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
...THAT MADE MY DAY...NOW I WILL GO EAT DINNER, I HAVE BEEN SNACKING ALL DAY, I HAVE GOT TO DO BETTER BECAUSE I AM LOOSING MORE WEIGHT. (NUP)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
@STEVE FROM THE TOP OF MY HEAD WITH THE RED PATCH TO MY FEET, MY FAVORITE DRESS IS THE SHOE...SOME TIMES I THINK BUSY BEE AND ME ARE THE SAME...MAYBE I NEED TO STAY AWAY FROM THOSE BEE STINGER ARROWS.LOL!!!

I AM ABOUT TO DO A NEW POST AND PLEASE PUT MY NEW BLOG'S WWW ON MY MARTIN BASHIR AND THE MB WWW ON IT...AAIN THANKS AND I BELIEVE I WILL STOP DOING BLOGS FOR A WHILE BEFORE I GET THROWN OFF THE SITE. (ROTFL) (SMILE) BUT I AM VER SERIOUS ABOUT BEING THROWN OFF...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
MY CHILD, HONEY BEE "I" AM NOT GOING ANY PLACE...IN FACT AS LONG AS ROBERT, THE KKK AND CALLING ON GOD'S NAME IN VAIN EXIST... I MAY EVEN NEVER DIE.LOL!!!...

BUT SINCE I MA MADE OF MATTER AND ACCORDING TO SCIENCE MATTER CAN NEVER BE DISTROYED ONLY CHANGED, JEN I AM GOING TO BE RIGHT HERE AS A CATHOLIC, CHRISTIAN, MUSLIM,SINTURED BEING, NDB IN MY NEW NEXT LIFE OR A PLANT, I WILL BE CONSTUTING SOME TING NATURAL IN HELPING SAVE MANKIND FROM THEIR SELVES FROM THOSE LIKE YOUR MIND SET(BECAUSE YOUR PRAYERS ARE PHONEY)...

MY FAMILY'S BLOOD LINE HAS BEEN HERE SINCE HERE (SINCE IN THE) BEGINING AND I WILL NOT END IT. (ROTFLM PROUD BLACKAO) (S-M-I-L-E)...


AND, @SANTI WAITING FOR YOUR NEXT RUSSIA IS GOING TO ATTACKAMERICA'S BLOG...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA

25 comments by ROBINSON IRMA at the SAME TIME ? and 1000,s below my comments/blogs

Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA

steveRobinsonIrma share a life of DNA racist and ILLEGAL Unlawful behavior

--- how can ONE person post at the same time 1000,s of NONSENSE, unreadable comments?

this blog started OFF with great Intelligence ---- I even commented at TOP I thought it was BIA #1

powerful thoughts!

The Philosophy of Language (2057 hits)
This was originally posted on The Great Blog of Robert.

I've had a request and an amen to once again attempt a discussion of the word "race", a word we use rather indiscriminately. For reference:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of...

My thoughts.

In a nutshell, the words we use, by virtue of that use, condition the way we think, until we arrive at the point where we take a truth (or unproven) as a given.

A prime example is "race". A simple consideration might be if we were to take this word as inherent and counterproductive to the problem of "racism", and therefore discontinuing the use of the word might aid the discontinuance of racism?

but as time goes non the racism born into the DNA of many POURS out
......selfProfessed 'black/white" people are THE enablers of 2014 racistlyIGNORANT issues........


Friday, May 2nd 2014 at 6:51PM
powell robert
Strange isn't it Robert, that Irma could post all that within the space of one minute? Think there M-I-G-H-T be another explanation?
Saturday, May 3rd 2014 at 1:41AM
Steve Williams

Strange isn't it Robert, that Irma could post all that within the space of one minute? Think there M-I-G-H-T be another explanation?
Saturday, May 3rd 2014 at 1:41AM
Steve Williams

is Computer FRAUD a language?

your exBlogKing antagonist asks STRANGE about blags?

has anyone noticed that the #1 RECORDED blogger at BIA, is the most vile, filthy and decadent writer at BIA, an African American Family site?

has anyone noticed that the #2 RECORDED blogger at BIA, is a blogger of 1 month membership and does not use SPELLCHECK, the MOST unEDUCATED BIA writer?

BACK to yourSUBJECT and QUESTION mr.FraudMAKER

is DNA a Language

..............as in racistDNA, racistlyIGNORANT, racistFRAUD




Saturday, May 3rd 2014 at 8:46AM
powell robert
The question was "What is a DNA Racist?" Is there supposed to be an answer to that in your comment here Robert?

First about Irma. She is one of the most knowledgeable persons I know. But it is no crime to not know certain things about computers. Her account got screwed up when I first tried uploading her profile picture and kept entering the wrong password. It would have been reasonable to lock me out of her account, but all her profile and comments going missing is called a computer BUG.

Her new profile was created April 9, and all the comments here dated April 10 were administration's attempt to restore the information that had been inadvertently lost. Imperfect, but not FRAUD.

The blog subscription counts, who knows? We don't know how they are calculated, but what would be the point of defrauding the counts? This too is likely a BUG.

Is DNA a language? Yes, it is a computer language.

Saturday, May 3rd 2014 at 11:42AM
Steve Williams

ok DNA is a computer language ---- thank you for answering a question

now is there a Philosophy of Language -- Computer Language or DNA Language?

Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson wrote that: "a part of all that ever was is evenly proportionally in all Life"

So the African Slave ancestor of yours may be a predominant or small part of steveDNA

the European paganChristian master ancestor of yours may be a Dominant DNA or a small part of the steveDNA

as you have attempted to Socialize with African American Families at BIA...

with your great research, with your pitiful selfProfessed 'whiteMan' CIVILITER MORTUUS, legal justification for slaverAmericana 1492-1864(1964)The American Founding Fathers and 30 Other USA Presidents----

I define you as a virallyIgnorant 'whiteMan' Socializing

----for WHAT with your racistDNA for 'whiteSupremist' DNA ?

As racistIgnorance is a FRAUD, a Falsehood and Divisionist method toward the Family of Adaam(as)

steveDNA is FULL of oldeStereotypes and Misconceptions...........


Saturday, May 3rd 2014 at 8:24PM
powell robert
Yes there is a DNA language. But I didn't say I have an African Slave ancestor, I only know she was black/native in America. Do you want to talk about the philosophy of DNA language?
Saturday, May 3rd 2014 at 8:45PM
Steve Williams

......"I didn't say I have an African Slave ancestor, I only know she was black/native in America. Do you want to talk about the philosophy of DNA language?"

Saturday, May 3rd 2014 at 8:45PM
Steve Williams

racistDNA steve is what I want to comment about, and I want to FulFill my BIA membership Agreement and SHATTER your Stereotypical, Misconceiving derriere.

for instance your last "statement"-----"you have a 'blackAncestor' BUT you do not know if she is of African Slave Ancestry AND you DENY --- truth

if she was 'black' --- SHE WAS of African Slave Ancestry

if she is yours ------- You are of African Slave Ancestry

YET you viralDNA steve are above the Laws of the CREATOR and are selfProfessed 'white'?

what a racistlyIgnorant FRAUD, Falsehood and Divisionist you are................


Sunday, May 4th 2014 at 12:41PM
powell robert
Wrong Robert, and when I find my family history, the Sharp side, from my grandmother Annie Beatrice Sharp, who lived in Teague, Texas, I may be able to tell you if she is an ancestor of slaves. Then again I may not. She was black, that I remember There were free Africans and descendant of Africans in this country. You do know that Robert.
Sunday, May 4th 2014 at 5:52PM
Steve Williams

YOU write to continue YOUR subject
"Is DNA a language? Yes, it is a computer language."

Saturday, May 3rd 2014 at 11:42AM
Steve Williams

So what is this?

Teague Texas?

your Grandmother Annie Beatrice Sharp?

She was black, that I remember There were free Africans and descendant of Africans in this country. You do know that Robert.
Sunday, May 4th 2014 at 5:52PM
Steve Williams

These selfProfessed 'whiteSteve' writings ARE why you --- in my opinion --- have viralDNA or racistDNA

Many people are used to thinking of DNA as unchanging programming that governs all the body's responses for the rest of a person's life.

There are a number of outside things that could result in minor DNA change.

DNA builds cancerous cells and this is accepted as mutation of DNA’s original intent

-------------------------------- people aren’t supposed to have cancer!

......... the program of DNA misfires, resulting in abnormal cells.
......... the environment may have effect on DNA, resulting in production of cancerous cells.

Epigenetics is a term which is used to describe situations in which genes express themselves differently.

Epigenetics plays an important role in the development of living organisms.

When an egg and sperm cell first meet to form a zygote and start replicating, epigenetics comes into play, telling the cells what to develop into.

Epigenetics determines how the genes are going to be expressed

------- cell differentiation is going on during fetal development

........ the fetus is also very vulnerable to environmental factors which can influence epigenetics, like the ingestion of a toxin which switches a gene off or on.

Heart intelligence postulates that an energetic connection or coupling of information via resonance mechanisms occurs between higher dimensional structures maintained in a quantum vacuum and the physical DNA in our cells.

The heart serves as a key access point through which information originating in the higher dimensional structures is coupled into the physical human system, and that states of heart coherence generated through experiencing heartfelt positive emotions increase this coupling.

the EVIL, BARBARIAN, unHuman period of slaverAmericana 1492-1864(1964) of rape, murder, torture in the name of a HEAVENLY paganChristianity----AFFECTED the fetus of 98.9% of the selfProfessed 'whitePeople' for OVER 500 YEARS

----this fetus Epigenetics Syndrome and RESULTING HeartMalfunctions changed the human DNA of most Americans-------resulting in YOU, dnaCHANGE of the human HEART------and all the other racistIgnorants



Monday, May 5th 2014 at 8:15AM
powell robert
The questions posed in my blog topic have been answered.

Q. In a nutshell, the words we use, by virtue of that use, condition the way we think, until we arrive at the point where we take a truth (or unproven) as a given.

A. The demeaning words you use Robert have conditioned the way you think, until you take an unproven as a given.

Q. A prime example is "race". A simple consideration might be if we were to take this word as inherent and counterproductive to the problem of "racism", and therefore discontinuing the use of the word might aid the discontinuance of racism?

A. Discontinuance of the word race has not kept you Robert from being the prime example of racism on this site.

And if you had any respect Robert you would take the discussion of DNA to my new blog.

As the author of this blog, I can make it disappear with a few keystrokes, never to be commented on again.

Monday, May 5th 2014 at 12:21PM
Steve Williams
I don't need to delete it, I need only to close it to further comments. If you want to discuss DNA, I will be at The Philosophy of DNA.
Monday, May 5th 2014 at 1:30PM
Steve Williams

you started this Blog Thursday, July 15th 2010 at 7:26AM with the intention to HELP me-----IN YOUR WORDS

"we arrive at the point where we take a truth (or unproven) as a given.

A prime example is "race". A simple consideration might be if we were to take this word as inherent and counterproductive to the problem of "racism", and therefore discontinuing the use of the word might aid the discontinuance of racism"

yet some time after this blog came out------David Johnson wrote to YOU and C U R T I S------

"i see you got something you got to say about me stev ,,lets get the bs in the opening what the f-ck you mean ''we could rightly consider his behavior as illegal''you getting in this **** again mother f-cker !"

Tuesday, October 16th 2012 at 3:29PM
David Johnson

its no secret i don't like ether one of you b-tches trying to kick it with the blacks because your own kind has rejected you ,,,f-ck off!

Tuesday, October 16th 2012 at 3:34PM
David Johnson

As deeJohnson is irmas'Bay Bay Thug----YOUR blogs became blags of racistIGNORANCE

I, ROBERT POWELL, have NEVER written the VILE, FILTH, DECADENT trash of the deeJohnson IRMETTE.....

yet YOU have the RACIST gall to then label yourself a 'whiteMan', a CIVILITER Mortuus and SIDE with the racistlyIGNORANT trashThug AGAINST me..............

NOW you WRITE:

..."....."A. The demeaning words you use Robert have conditioned the way you think, until you take an unproven as a given.
As the author of this blog, I can make it disappear with a few keystrokes, never to be commented on again".

Monday, May 5th 2014 at 12:21PM
Steve Williams


"I don't need to delete it, I need only to close it to further comments......."

Monday, May 5th 2014 at 1:30PM
Steve Williams

that is why you are BIA---- viralDNA, racistDNA---your HEART is full of RACIST, 'whiteSupremist' dnaEvolution

dnaEvolution like the Bundys, Sterlings, farakhanMadoofs and most 2014 --- 15-20Th Century Folks

delete/STOP------I do NOT care

-----I HAVE ALREADY DEFEATED your IGNORANT noCOURAGE WEAK arse.....Intellectually and Morally





Monday, May 5th 2014 at 6:20PM
powell robert
that is why you are BIA---- viralDNA, racistDNA---your HEART is full of RACIST, 'whiteSupremist' dnaEvolution

dnaEvolution like the Bundys, Sterlings, farakhanMadoofs and most 2014 --- 15-20Th Century Folks

delete/STOP------I do NOT care

-----I HAVE ALREADY DEFEATED your IGNORANT noCOURAGE WEAK arse.....Intellectually and Morally





Monday, May 5th 2014 at 6:20PM
powell robert | delete | block member

Comment or not as you please, but the subject of this blog will not be changed by you Robert.

This blog is done.

Monday, May 5th 2014 at 6:33PM
Steve Williams
What's the topic again Robert?
Thursday, May 8th 2014 at 11:42PM
Steve Williams
Elimination of the racist gene?
Thursday, May 8th 2014 at 11:44PM
Steve Williams
Research in genetics offers a means to classify humans which is more precise than broad phenotypically based racial categories, given that genetics can provide a much more complex analysis of individual genetic makeup and geographic ancestry, than self identified membership of a racial category. With a blood transfusion, for example, it is vital to know the genetically determined blood type of the donor and recipient, but it is not helpful to know their respective geographic ancestries. Most physical anthropologists consider race to be primarily a social category that does not correspond significantly with biological variation, but some anthropologists, particularly forensic anthropologists, consider race a useful biological category. They argue that it is possible to determine race from physical remains with a reasonable degree of certainty; what is identified is the geographic phenotype. Medical practitioners also sometimes argue that racial categories can be used successfully as proxies to assess risk of those different heritable illnesses that occur with different frequencies among populations of different geographic ancestries. Others argue that this use may be problematic because it risks underestimating risks of individuals from ethno-racial categories that are not considered high-risk, and to overestimate the risk in populations that are, resulting in stigmatization.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_gene...

Thursday, May 8th 2014 at 11:59PM
Steve Williams


Before we continue----can you answer one question?

you have selfProfessed yourself at BIA, an African American Family site as a 'whiteMan'

you have also stated that you have a 'blackGrandmother'?-----is that true?

and while you get your LIE, deception straight lets get to your statement above---

"Research in genetics offers a means to classify humans which is more precise than broad phenotypically based racial categories, given that genetics can provide a much more complex analysis of individual genetic makeup and geographic ancestry, than self identified membership of a racial category."

Thursday, May 8th 2014 at 11:59PM
Steve Williams
****************************************************************************************************************
Few concepts have as tarnished and contentious a history as 'race'.

I contend that ONLY Europeans need a Division of the Family of the Creator of Adaam(as)
----------- not African Asians

Among both the scientific and lay communities, the notion that humans can be grouped into different races has been enshrined by some and dismissed by others.

Even the definition of race varies considerably, depending on context and criteria,

Forensic legal databases in the US are typically organized according to traditional racial and ethnic categories (e.g., African-American, European-American, Native, Asian, Hispanic etc.).

Investigators funded by the US National Institutes of Health are required to show that "minority" populations are adequately represented in biomedical studies.

Responses to medical therapies, such as drugs, are often compared among populations that are divided according to traditional racial divisions.

Among the general public, the validity of racial categories is often taken for granted.

Biomedical scientists are divided in their opinions about race.

Some characterize it as "biologically meaningless" or "not based on scientific evidence"

I guess even in the European Communities many contend that race is MEANINGLESS and NO Scientific Evidence


Friday, May 9th 2014 at 5:58PM
powell robert
Let's clarify one thing for now. I didn't say my grandmother was black, I said on my grandmother's side of the family. She would have been my great-great-great grandmother or at some such point in the family history.
Friday, May 9th 2014 at 6:29PM
Steve Williams
Divisions of the family of humankind don't have geographic boundaries Robert. Never have.
Saturday, May 10th 2014 at 3:17AM
Steve Williams
"Let's clarify one thing for now. I didn't say my grandmother was black, I said on my grandmother's side of the family. She would have been my great-great-great grandmother or at some such point in the family history."

Friday, May 9th 2014 at 6:29PM

YES Let's clarify one thing for now --of OUR SUBJECT----- The Philosophy of Language
--------and purpose --- the words we use, by virtue of that use, condition the way we think, until we arrive at the point where we take a truth (or unproven) as a given.

A prime example is "race". A simple consideration might be if we were to take this word as inherent and counterproductive to the problem of "racism", and therefore discontinuing the use of the word might aid the discontinuance of racism?

should you, IF you believe antiRace have not MENTIONED to BIA, an African American Family site that you are 'a whiteMan'---- or that your grandmothers People were 'blackPeople'

for our communication to continue I am able to accept your explanation or mistake---its OK steve

because the blog you wanted to follow with this blog was:

http://blackinamerica.com/content/184241/r...

The bigger picture of Our contributions to Youth and Intelligence are more important than our mistakes...

you can agree with the Intelligence of 2014 when Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson wrote that: "a part of all that ever was is evenly proportionally in all Life"

mistakes of our egos EVEN if those egos were formed in the DNA, generational fetal and heart changes to many of the Family of Adaam(as)

its OK, the Creator of Adaam(as) wishes us the Direction to understand the totality of all Living beings and the successes or failures for ALL,

Sűrat AlA‘râf
[The Heights of Developments (or The Walls with no End) ] VII
In the Name of Allâah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful

1. Alif-Lâm-Mîm-Sâd.

2. This is AlQur’âan, sent down unto you Mohamed, so show the greatest courage now, to Warn all; and be a reminder to the Believers.

3. Say Mohamed, to these idolaters, polytheists, pagans and wrong-doers of your community:
Follow what has been sent down to you from Raabbee, AlQur’âan and AsSunnah, and do not follow Auliyâ’(protectors/helpers who order you to associate partners in worship, besides Allâah).


Saturday, May 10th 2014 at 10:42AM
powell robert
I once said I was white. No longer.. You once said I was a great researcher. No longer. Yes, we all make mistakes.
Saturday, May 10th 2014 at 12:00PM
Steve Williams
I brought up my ancestor for one reason, Because Harry cannot intelligently define and delimit who are his Black American people. You and Harry see the same thing when you look at the picture of me and Irma. Most Americans, what, maybe 99.9 percent, would agree with Harry that it's a picture of a white man and a black woman. That's just reality Robert.
Saturday, May 10th 2014 at 12:11PM
Steve Williams

WHOOA NELLIE

------- do NOT put words in my MOUTH, I know what I have WRITTEN at BIA, an AfricanAmerican Family site

pc TECHNOLOGY is FOREVER ----- you write FALSE statements from your viralDna language here:

" I once said I was white. No longer.. You once said I was a great researcher. No longer. Yes, we all make mistakes."

Saturday, May 10th 2014 at 12:00PM
Steve Williams
******************************************************************************************************

I STILL think you are a GREAT researcher AND pcGenius to get ROBINSONIRMA 1000s of comments onetime/date

"I brought up my ancestor for one reason, Because Harry cannot intelligently define and delimit who are his Black American people. You and Harry see the same thing when you look at the picture of me and Irma. Most Americans, what, maybe 99.9 percent, would agree with Harry that it's a picture of a white man and a black woman. That's just reality Robert."

Saturday, May 10th 2014 at 12:11PM
Steve Williams
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harry is a selfProfessed 68IQ RETARDANT with NO people's 2014 belief of History, Scholarship or Science

I only ask he and youAll other racistlyIgnorant Folk go to the nearest mentalHospital

------NO NO NO

------ AlIslaam is the 2nd Largest Belief in America and NO way is your LIE of 99.9%--evenCLOSE
http://blackinamerica.com/content/184241/r...
********************************************************************************************************

YOU SHOULD HAVE written:

"100.00 percent of racistly Ignorant Americans would agree with Harry that it's a picture of a white man and a black woman. That's just reality Robert."

I, robertPowell, 5 YEARS ago and on 5/10/2014 see yourPictureIrmaANDharry as probably Americans, probably selfProfessed racists and ALL Members of the Family of Adaam(as)................................

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS 'blackWhiteRedYellow' men/women in MONOTHEISTIC THOUGHT of AfricaAsia

THAT is REALITY!

...................I pray your viralDNA understand that Language some day............


Saturday, May 10th 2014 at 1:22PM
powell robert
"I STILL think you are a GREAT researcher AND pcGenius to get ROBINSONIRMA 1000s of comments onetime/date"

It doesn't take a genius to do backup and restore. But still I can't take credit because I do not administer this site. Has it occurred to you Robert that Irma's comments being restored in this way is not as coherent as if they'd been restored to their proper place in the dialog? And for a man of your age and intelligence it is a pity that you play dumb.

"THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS 'blackWhiteRedYellow' men/women in MONOTHEISTIC THOUGHT of AfricaAsia"

Take it up with the President. He directs the Census Bureau.

Saturday, May 10th 2014 at 1:47PM
Steve Williams
And speaking of the census, that would be a true genius who knew how each Muslim in the United States answered the race question.
Saturday, May 10th 2014 at 1:53PM
Steve Williams
What percent of Americans answer the race question? What is your guess?
Saturday, May 10th 2014 at 1:59PM
Steve Williams
And Robert, I know what word in my questions above you will seize upon and twist.
Saturday, May 10th 2014 at 2:06PM
Steve Williams

Take it up with the President. He directs the Census Bureau.

Saturday, May 10th 2014 at 1:47PM
Steve Williams

Census Bureau has been around a LONG time, in Fact, I was watching the Three Stooges a couple of days ago and they got a job at the Census Bureau

for whatever reason the Three Stooges, even in blackANDwhite film are LOVED and Laughed to by even New Americans.......

anyway Our President Baraaka Hussein Obama is the LIVING proof that the colorClassification of a Member of the Family of Adaam(as) is RACISTLY I G N O R A N T nonsense......

CENSUS taking has ALWAYS been run by the Three Stooges---the Future of Census taking is a dying Agenda

as the fabled negro Preacher --- in a MOST eloquent English Language spoke once

**************"judge a person by the content of their character, not the color of their skin?"***************

Ameen







Sunday, May 11th 2014 at 12:20PM
powell robert
http://billmoyers.com/Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie

Nigerian Author Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie: “I Became Black in America”
I became black in America and I really hadn’t thought of myself as black in Nigeria. I think that identity in Nigeria was ethnic, religious…but race just wasn’t present. …
So I don’t have a problem at all, sort of having skin the color of chocolate. But in this country I came to realize…that meant something, that it came with baggage and with all of these assumptions. And that the idea of black achievement was a remarkable thing. Whereas for me in Nigeria, it wasn’t. It was not.

Thursday, December 18th 2014 at 8:24AM
robert powell
SUBJECT

The Philosophy of Language

You STILL in 2015 DO NOT understand the ENGLISH language or its Philosophy!

Democracy---in the English Language

----- had a History in paganChristianity in slaverAmericana 1492-1864(1964) of NOT including ALL Mankind

BUT

In 2015

---the English Language as SPOKEN and UNDERSTOOD by Our Leader and President of American Democracy Baraka Hussein Obama means SOMETHING and True Democratic Philosophy for All American Citizens




Monday, March 23rd 2015 at 9:32AM
robert powell
Democracy in America is an illusion. We-the-people are not the electors.
Monday, March 23rd 2015 at 11:18AM
Steve Williams
On racist ignorance - when you speak a private language Robert, no one will understand you.
Monday, March 23rd 2015 at 11:24AM
Steve Williams

SUBJECT

The Philosophy of Language

"........On racist ignorance - when you speak a private language Robert, no one will understand you.

Monday, March 23rd 2015 at 10:24AM
Steve Williams

*****************************************************************************************
This was originally posted on The Great Blog of Robert.

I've had a request and an amen to once again attempt a discussion of the word "race", a word we use rather indiscriminately.

My thoughts.

In a nutshell, the words we use, by virtue of that use, condition the way we think, until we arrive at the point where we take a truth (or unproven) as a given.

A prime example is "race". A simple consideration might be if we were to take this word as inherent and counterproductive to the problem of "racism", and therefore discontinuing the use of the word might aid the discontinuance of racism?

Dedicated to Cynthia (Pre-Doctor-Philosopher) Artis

Posted By: Steve Williams
Thursday, July 15th 2010 at 7:26AM

*********************************************************************************

Since 7/15/2010 --- for you to continuously comment with racistlyIgnorant VALUES

-- is HYPOCRACY to your OWN words

--- in 3/24/2015 BIA does KNOW what or who YOU are steveAdam

OR

why you BOTHER African American Families with your Divisionist discourse....BE a MAN

.......STAND for Something Sometime ---





Tuesday, March 24th 2015 at 8:10PM
robert powell
SUBJECT

The Philosophy of Language

"........On racist ignorance - when you speak a private language Robert, no one will understand you.

Monday, March 23rd 2015 at 10:24AM
Steve Williams

*****************************************************************************************
This was originally posted on The Great Blog of Robert.

I've had a request and an amen to once again attempt a discussion of the word "race", a word we use rather indiscriminately.

My thoughts.

In a nutshell, the words we use, by virtue of that use, condition the way we think, until we arrive at the point where we take a truth (or unproven) as a given.

A prime example is "race". A simple consideration might be if we were to take this word as inherent and counterproductive to the problem of "racism", and therefore discontinuing the use of the word might aid the discontinuance of racism?

Dedicated to Cynthia (Pre-Doctor-Philosopher) Artis

Posted By: Steve Williams
Thursday, July 15th 2010 at 7:26AM

*********************************************************************************

Since 7/15/2010 --- for you to continuously comment with racistlyIgnorant VALUES

-- is HYPOCRACY to your OWN words

--- in 3/24/2015 BIA does KNOW what or who YOU are steveAdam

OR

why you BOTHER African American Families with your Divisionist discourse....BE a MAN

.......STAND for Something Sometime ---


********************************************************I STAND WITH THIS

Sűrat AzZumar

(The Different Groups, Communities, Families) XXXIX

In the Name of Allâah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful

1. The revelation of AlQur’âan is from Allâah, the All-Mighty, the All-Wise.

2. We have sent down AlQur'aan to you Mohamed in truth:
So worship and obey Allâah by doing righteous deeds sincerely for Allâah only.

3. AdDeen of worship and obedience is for Allâah only.
Those who take Auliyâ’ (idols, lords, gods, intermediators) besides Him say:

"We worship them so that they may bring us near to Allâah."
Allâah will judge between them concerning their differences.

Allâah does NOT guide a Liar, and a disbeliever.


5. He has created the heavens and the earth with Truth.
He makes the night to go in the day and makes the day to go in the night.
He has commanded the sun and the moon to run on a fixed course for an appointed term.
He is the All-Mighty, the Oft-Forgiving.

32. Then, who does more wrong than one who utters a lie against Allâah, and denies the truth of AlQur’âan, the Prophet Mohamed and Monotheism!

Is there not in Hell an abode for the disbelievers?

and

Sűrat AlGhâfir or AlMű’min

(The Forgiving or The Believer) XL
In the Name of Allâah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful

57. The creation of the heavens and the earth is indeed greater than the creation of mankind; yet, most of mankind does not understand.

78. Indeed We have sent Messengers before you Mohamed Őáě Çááĺ Úáíĺ ćÓáă): of some of them We have related to you their story.[2]

And of some We have not related to you their story, and it was not given to any Messenger that he should bring a sign except by the Leave of Allâah.

But, when comes the Commandment of Allâah, the matter will be decided with Truth, and the followers of falsehood will then be lost.

**********


Tuesday, March 24th 2015 at 8:16PM
robert powell
I stand with the Bodhisattva Wonderful Sound.

http://blackinamerica.com/content/271457/b...

Wednesday, March 25th 2015 at 10:56AM
Steve Williams

Finally an ANSWER from steveAdam, bia 'whiteMan'

great sound you stand for................

"Terry, you know when there is a bunch of people chanting really harmoniously, sometimes a high pitched voice, that doesn't sound human, also joins in?"

"Yes. I've heard that. It usually happens when there are a few hundred people in the main hall, but I have heard it in smaller rooms with fewer people. It only happens when everyone is in rhythm with each other. I used to think that it was a wise guy doing a falsetto, but now I think that it is sound bouncing off sound or an extreme harmony producing a new voice. Like when two people bond they create a third entity that is the relationship between them."

He said: "I don't know what it is, but I heard it last night when I was in the studio with my band while we were working on my new song. The sound also appears on the tape. It sounds like an instrument that no one has ever heard before."

I told him about a bodhisattva that traveled through many star systems to hear the Lotus Sutra. As he passed through each star system he caused all the musical instruments of every world to sound at once in harmony.*

He asked: "What is the name of that bodhisattva?"

"Bodhisattva Wonderful Sound."

He said "Thanks, Terry. I was wondering what we should call that piece. You just helped me name a song."



Wednesday, March 25th 2015 at 5:54PM
robert powell
I take it you didn't read it Robert.
Wednesday, March 25th 2015 at 8:34PM
Steve Williams
I take it you didn't read it Robert.
Wednesday, March 25th 2015 at 7:34PM
Steve Williams

You stand as a Man for song from where?----------indiaORindianaOR


Thursday, March 26th 2015 at 8:12AM
robert powell
Not a song Robert, that is your topic. The Lotus Sutra came from China to Japan to the U.S.
Thursday, March 26th 2015 at 8:38AM
Steve Williams

The Philosophy of Language

This was originally posted on The Great Blog of Robert.

SUBJECT

Posted By: Steve Williams
Thursday, July 15th 2010 at 7:26AM

************************************************

before steve selfIdentified 'whiteMan'......I then wrote.....

".....Got to Be the Greatest Blog on BIA of All Time Steve, or Greatest Proposal----- "

Thursday, July 15th 2010 at 11:35AM
robert powell

*******************************************

steve did not have the intellectual CURIOSITY or RESPECT to ask me WHY I would write that in 2016....

----- So let BIA, an African American Family Site REVISIT

1. The Philosophy of Language

2. The Philosophy of Our Communication amongst ourselves

3. The Philosophy of Mrs. María de la Soledad Teresa O'Brien CNN journalistic Executive Producer of BIA

4. The Philosophy of African American Language and Our Communication in America

************************************************

I CONTEND that the LAST time, LAST TIME the African that would be American in 1868

---CONVERSED in an Intelligent Language was at the pre 1492 Mark.

---THOUGHT in a Philosophy that bettered their lives was pre 1492

----The LAST time African Americans USED a 'MOTHER TONGUE' was pre 1492

THAT IS the LAST time African Americans had Intelligent Human Language for their Human Development

*************************************************************

....that EuropeanRacist......paganChristian Language ......was IGNORANT.....NOT for Human USE......

....that EuropeanRacist......paganChristian Language ......was antiCreator.....NOT for Human USE......

*************************************************

2017 should show all non RACISTS that its time for Intelligence....

IT IS TIME we recapture The Human Philosophy of Language ..and GET PHD's in the

------------Philosophy of Language



Thursday, November 30th 2017 at 6:41PM
robert powell
I'm grateful for your BIA leadership Robert. Those times I wasn't listening were my loss. I now understand your observation on Bodhisattva Wonderful Sound.
Thursday, November 30th 2017 at 8:41PM
Steve Williams

I KNOW THAT above we have discussed that LANGUAGE is CULTURE and HISTORY

---- if we have

2018 should show all non RACISTS that its time for Intelligence....

IT IS TIME we recapture The Human Philosophy of Language ..and GET PHD's in the

------------Philosophy of Language

AND the evolution of our minds and interactions Amongst ourselves



Tuesday, March 20th 2018 at 8:14AM
robert powell
It might be the case that language is the most difficult science of all, along with self control.
Tuesday, March 20th 2018 at 10:47PM
Steve Williams


SUBJECT

The Philosophy of Language

the words we use...... condition the way we think, until we arrive at the point where we take a truth

(or unproven) as a given.

A prime example is "race". A simple consideration might be if we were to take this word as inherent

and counterproductive to the problem of "racism"

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{counterproductive to the problem of "racism"}

... I apologize if I keep coming back to this Great BIA Subject BUT it rings Truth to me......

Could be I'm just an olde Nostalgic guy a conservative guy Looking for Human Intelligence

----Rather than the simplicity of human divisive COLORING...Fabricating/Visualizing

I MUST admit Philosophy of the Languages and Vocalizing of the Human Being is MORE significant

than the features of Humans in variously different geographic areas....

---- Just got back from SoCal and People in Minnesota thought I was different because of SUN BURN!

BUT

of course once I Vocalized in Languages I had not changed after 10-12 days.....

AND master of BIA blogs steveWilliams language is a SCIENCE that Scientists get lazy exploring.....

-----Yes, "race" - dividing of Mankind into separate groups is COUNTERPRODUCTIVE to 2018 - RACISM!





Sunday, April 22nd 2018 at 9:02AM
robert powell
Speaking of language, I've been wanting to ask you about the relationship of Aramaic and Hebrew. For instance, at the time of the first destruction of the temple we have Imperial Aramaic as the lingua franca so to speak. Was Hebrew a dialect, or what?

Sunday, April 22nd 2018 at 11:29AM
Steve Williams

Great Question.....off the top of my head....need to research though...

...The Rabbi studied Torah, Zaboor, and Hadeeth Musa(as) in the olde Hebraic Language in beitil tefilla,

beitil kneset, beitil midrash;..... or the paganGREEK word, ..... synagog.

This language in prePaganGreek roman time was the African Asian Language of many from Misr to Iraq

....AND

Aramaic is an African Asian Semitic language that replaced the Hebrew Language about the

time of paganPhonecian paganGreek influence among the ordinary people of present Palestine.

The CONQUERING paganRomans used ARAMAIC as linguaColonization.....

The Aramaic script is ancestral to both the Arabic and modern Hebrew alphabets.


Sunday, April 22nd 2018 at 7:23PM
robert powell
Thanks Robert. I've been wondering about this since I read Philo's account of the making of the Septuagint, where he refers to Chaldean as the language from which the books of Moses were translated.

http://www.earlyjewishwritings.com/text/ph...


Sunday, April 22nd 2018 at 8:48PM
Steve Williams

Dedicated to Cynthia (Pre-Doctor-Philosopher) Artis

Posted By: Steve Williams
Thursday, July 15th 2010 at 7:26AM

Hello, long time...?


Sunday, May 27th 2018 at 8:19AM
robert powell
Hi Robert.. I know it's been awhile... Life and it's many changes. I'm a grandmother now and enjoying this New season. I see some things haven't changed. I've missed you and I see (read) you are still the same, it's refreshing. I can't believe this blog is still here. Yet some of the old gang is missing...
Sunday, May 27th 2018 at 9:19AM
Cynthia Merrill Artis

These are the times 2019.....when your GREATEST BIA SUBJECT

"...….The Philosophy of Language...…." Is SO important in American History....

The Honorable Ilhan Omar BORN with Direct Ancestry in EastAfrica, or Western Arabia is BEING

attacked as someone that hates self.....ALL anthropology University Scholarship states that

EastAfrica, or Western Arabians are Semitic......She is MORE semitic than the European jews and

their American dual citizen Israeli great grandchildren.....


ps..

where is your hacking BIA blog?




Wednesday, February 13th 2019 at 8:17AM
robert powell
Do you mean this one?

http://blackinamerica.com/content/326347/h...

Wednesday, February 13th 2019 at 8:56AM
Steve Williams
These attacks on Ilhan Omar are disturbing. It's one of those cases that brings American prejudice clearly to the fore, and the attackers seem completely ignorant of who they are. Just like Northam.

Wednesday, February 13th 2019 at 9:03AM
Steve Williams

..….....Thanks as Always

No big deal on attacks to Mrs Ilhan Omar, my American Community is used to these attacks and more...

Whenever I have written debate with some englishChallenged BIA, members I find solace in

this GREAT blog SUBJECT.......Philosophy of Language

…you have shown wisdom in UNDERSTANDING.. Language;...by Debate and Definitions

America is a large nation of many Democracy pursuing communities wanting national growth...

..All of US that want to be educated and reasonable in 2023; can be More knowledgeable.

as we have internet tools to Educate ...and STOP the Colored-Divisional Nonsense....

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..BIA-#1 PASTER of fakeNews, deaCON .. BAD English-Language has again embraced Cowardice

..deaCON ron has embraced the Lunatic Tribal madness exhibited in USA Congress 2023

..Let US USA; in Language of USA Constitution--We The People in 2023 rid BIA of mentalMidgets

..Let US USA; in language of USA Constitution accept National Free Speech/Debate and Thought


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