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The extremist evangelical of Dove World Church whose Pastor Terry Jones, has written a book called “Islam Is Of The Devil” — plans to host “International Burn A Quran Day,” With complete disregard to the sacred book of the Muslims’, he encourages others across the world to do so as well. Churchmember Wayne Sapp has even posted an instructional video that explains how and why to burn the Islamic text. Of course this is on the anniversary of the 9/11 bombing of American World Trade Center in New York City. What are you thoughts. www.trafford.com/06-2972 21st Century Vision for Black America
Posted By: jamal Abraham
Friday, July 30th 2010 at 10:13PM
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It is totally ridiculous--and completely violtes the Amereican value of religious tolerance.
Just as faithful Muslims should not be judged by the misguided suicide murderers and terrorist, nobody should judged the followers of Christ based on this idiot.
Friday, July 30th 2010 at 10:56PM
Richard Kigel
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Yes, but why would he turn the moderate Muslims more radicalized. My thoughts is he will get more than he asked for. Islam is already the fastest growing of the major religions...now it will grow even faster...because this is a wrongful act. I would not think of burning up the Bible of the Christians or the Torah of the Jews.
Friday, July 30th 2010 at 11:59PM
jamal Abraham
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"Targeting another group it calls "godless," the Dove center is also hosting a protest against Gainesville Mayor Craig Lowe, who is openly gay, on Monday at Gainesville's City Hall. The group previously fought -- unsuccessfully -- to derail Lowe's election campaign.
"We protest s*xual perversion because the Bible protests it. ... What is acceptable to today's leadership becomes acceptable to tomorrow's society," the church says in its blog entry about the event."
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/07/29/flori...
Saturday, July 31st 2010 at 3:04AM
Steve Williams
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Hello to All,
You all should have the rational sense to know that religion is not a choice. In other words, people are not supposed to shop around and pick a religion as if though they were in a supermarket buying groceries and picking one item versus another item.
A genuine prophet is responsible for giving his people their own religion and that prophet would get said religion directly from God.
We saw it happen in the case of Prophet Abraham who gave his people Judaism. We also saw it in the case of Prophet Mohammed who gave his Arabian people Islam. You are now seeing it in the case of Prophet Harry who is giving his people, Black Americans the religion of LIFE.
Therefore, religion is not something that the person selects for himself or herself. Religion is a way of how that particular race of people is to worship God.
For instance, the Jewish people and the Arabian people are two different people. God gave the Jewish people the ritual Passover. God also gave the Arabian people the Ramadan ritual. Likewise, Black Americans will also come into our own ritual as well.
Therefore, this pastor burning the Quran should mean nothing even to an Arab Muslim.
Am I making any sense?
Please bear in mind that when I speak I speak own behalf of blind, deaf and dumb Black Americans since I am a Black American.
Tell me what you think.
Saturday, July 31st 2010 at 11:26AM
Harry Watley
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Hello Clark,
You should have the common sense to know that a pastor and a prophet are an entirely to the different elements.
Pastoral ship is an occupation. Prophet-hood is an anointing by God only. I am not a pastor. I am Black America’s first genuine prophet.
Clark, you do not seem to be as smart as I thought you were. You are disappointed me. In addition, remember that I have a 68 IQ. Yet, I am wiser than you are. Why is that so?
What say you?
Saturday, July 31st 2010 at 11:33AM
Harry Watley
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Hello Saint Jake,
Have you ever taken time to examine whether you are a racist? It would seem to me that you are a racist.
I could be wrong, but it is up to you to show that I am wrong.
Tell me what you think.
Saturday, July 31st 2010 at 11:35AM
Harry Watley
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St. Jake of course is racist.
Saturday, July 31st 2010 at 12:01PM
Steve Williams
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Religion sometimes seems to have that effect.
Saturday, July 31st 2010 at 12:05PM
Steve Williams
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On the other hand, you Harry are a separatist. That I can understand.
Saturday, July 31st 2010 at 12:07PM
Steve Williams
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Hello Steve,
You said this, “Harry are a separatist. That I can understand”
No! I am not a separatist. I want that Black Americans become a sovereign people on the portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders.
Now, if you could say that I am a separatist then you would also have to say that Moses was a separatist as well. Moses led his people out of Egypt, am I right. However, we know that Moses was not a separatist. Moses wanted sovereignty for his people.
Tell me what you think.
Saturday, July 31st 2010 at 12:29PM
Harry Watley
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Harry, how are you not a separatist when God's inspiration to you is to separate Black Americans to a portion of this continent with borders?
Yes Moses was a separatist. He separated Israel from Egypt.
Saturday, July 31st 2010 at 12:38PM
Steve Williams
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Hello Saint Jake,
You said this, “Harry: PAUSE “
You want the green light from me to continue your propaganda bull**** about this Black Hebrew Israelite nonsense, am I right.
Black Americans are nothing else but a new breed or race of people that has emerged out of the ashes of slavery. Black Americans did not exist in 70 A.D. and chased into West Africa by the Romans.
Black Americans has nothing to do with the Bible because we are not written in the Bible.
All people write their own religious books. For instance, the Jewish people wrote the Bible since the principal people in the Bible are Jewish people. Black Americans did not come into existence yet. The Arabian people wrote the Quran. Black Americans will write our own religious book of guidance that will say it next to the Bible and the Quran.
Therefore, any time a racially different people, e.g. Black Americans is following the religion of another people that would mean Black Americans are still an ignorant people. Am I making any sense?
What say you?
Saturday, July 31st 2010 at 12:38PM
Harry Watley
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Also Harry, you disapprove intermarriage, again, separatism.
Saturday, July 31st 2010 at 12:41PM
Steve Williams
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Steve it is very unfortunate... many BIA posters do not approve of mix-race marriages!!! Oh well.... life is a box of cheeries.... you nevvva know what you're gonna get!!! HA!!
Let's think... If I had to choose between you and Harry!!! What do ya think I'd get!!! ummm!!!
Saturday, July 31st 2010 at 1:19PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
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O' I'll be glad when we move past all of this My Superiority of Religion!! And learn to live accordingly to all the scriptures we've memorized....
Saturday, July 31st 2010 at 1:21PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
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Hello Steve,
Okay, since you see Moses as a separatist then what did I tell you? I guess God is a separatist as well. Steve you are nothing but a damn fool.
I see Moses as a man wanting sovereignty for his people, the children of Israel. I guess you are seeing it from the Egyptian side while I am seeing it from the side of the children of Israel.
Likewise, you are seeing my anointing from White America’s side while I am seeing it from Black America’s side.
For instance during the Vietnam War White America is sort the Vietnamese as insurgents or the enemy. While from the Vietnamese side, they saw themselves as freedom fighters wanting the occupying force, White America out of their country.
Consequentially, I want to be free and you want to keep me in subjugation. Am I making any sense with you?
Incidentally, I do not disapprove of intermarriage. I said that intermarriage is the exception to the general rule. I said that when it happens something is somewhat mentally wrong with the two individuals getting married.
Saturday, July 31st 2010 at 1:22PM
Harry Watley
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Hello Cynthia,
As much as I have said, why is it that you do not understand that you have no scriptures yet?
Saturday, July 31st 2010 at 1:24PM
Harry Watley
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SHUT THE F.... UP YOU DUMB JACKAZZ.... I have scriptures to read!!! They might be pagan by some.... but at least....... not words of an old crazy lunatic!!
Saturday, July 31st 2010 at 1:29PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
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Jackazz......
And Harry to be on the up and up..... a woman has to be out of her dayum mind to get physically close... we know she is seriously mentally challenged!!
Saturday, July 31st 2010 at 1:31PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
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The Last Messenger of Allah, Elijah Muhammad described caucasian people as a race of devils. Much debate transpires about is this true. Now, here is this caucasian person wanting to do something considered abominable. What kind of conscious does a person have to do such a thing. Does he think that he will get away with trying to put 2 billion muslims to shame by burning their book. That is no life to try to live. And what about his family....to put them all in danger is no way to walk the earth. What about living in peace and to NOT to have to watch over your shoulder. In other words, the price for peace of mind is limitless. Yet, this devil style pastor wants to destroy, defame and burn Islam's holy scripture. May Allah (God) NOT have mercy on his soul.
Saturday, July 31st 2010 at 1:59PM
jamal Abraham
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Qaraa'
If they burned all the printed books, their issue
20% of Believers have memorized ALL of AlQur'aan; by Heart
50% know 1/2 of AlQur'aan by Heart.
so out of 2 Billion Muslims in the World--
100Million have memorized
In my family memorization is 40%---
The only Burning that would take place is with The Pastor, and his ignorant paganFollowers.
Saturday, July 31st 2010 at 2:06PM
robert powell
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Harry, so intermarriage is okay but is mentally wrong.
Okey dokey.
Saturday, July 31st 2010 at 2:45PM
Steve Williams
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Hello Cynthia,
Your comment, “And learn to live accordingly to all the scriptures we've memorized.…”
I thought it was a rationally reasonable comment that I could have responded. However, it seems as if though if I say anything to you turned upside down.
I do not want to argue and get nasty. It is not my character. So, I will leave you alone.
Saturday, July 31st 2010 at 3:39PM
Harry Watley
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Hello Jamal,
You said this, “The Last Messenger of Allah, Elijah Muhammad…”
God does not rise up messengers. God rises up prophets only when God decides to visit that specific people. Actually, Mr. Elijah Muhammad was the messenger of a man whom we know to be Mr. Fard Muhammad. Some people including Elijah are so very ignorant to believe that a man could be gone. Jamal, no man could be God neither would God be a man. All religious books and prophets that God is neither man nor could anything are compared unto God. So, God had nothing to do with messenger Elijah Muhammad. Elijah himself was blind, deaf and dumb. I am wiser than Elijah Muhammad was.
Secondly, you said this, “May Allah (God) NOT have mercy on his soul.”
I would have said might Allah have mercy on his soul. You are not compassionate and two of God attributes is off time merciful and compassionate. I am a man of mercy and compassion. I am Black America’s first genuine prophet.
Tell me what you think.
Saturday, July 31st 2010 at 4:05PM
Harry Watley
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Hello Robert,
You said this, “In my family memorization is 40%”
You and your family are memorizing the wrong book, the Quran.
In other words, since you are not an Arab as Prophet Mohammed was you should be memorizing your own book when Black Americans begins to develop our own religious book of guidance, just as the Arabian people came to develop the Quran.
Am I making any sense?
Tell me what you think.
Saturday, July 31st 2010 at 4:10PM
Harry Watley
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Hello Clark,
All you have been doing lately is criticizing me. Why could you not show me that I was wrong when I said a pastor and a prophet are an entirely to a different elements if I was wrong? Instead, you turn to criticizing me because you know that I am right even though my IQ is 68. I am surprise that I am smarter than you are with an IQ of 68 and you are a university graduate.
What do you have to say for yourself besides criticizing? I expect criticism from chicken heads Black women, but not from you, Clark!
Now, do you agree that a pastor is not the same as a prophet?
In addition, you calling me a false prophet are nothing. Since all people have denied their prophets when they came. Therefore, your rejection of me has no credibility since it is the normal thing that ignorant people does.
Now, what two things specifically could you go on that you could say I am a false prophet? If you could give me two things that I would be wrong that all you are is a critic, okay.
In addition, I am telling you that Black Americans are going to become a sovereign people on the portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders. Do you want this to happen whether I am a false prophet are not?
What say you?
Saturday, July 31st 2010 at 4:23PM
Harry Watley
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Hello Steve,
You said this, “Harry, so intermarriage is okay but is mentally wrong.”
I did not say that intermarriage okay. I said that when it happens something is mentally wrong with both individuals getting married.
Steve, you have no wisdom! Wisdom is the ability to discern between one thing and another. You are not mentally perceptive to discern what I am saying. When I say I do not disapprove of interracial marriage is because it is the exception to the rule. It will happen and I expect it to happen. Now, by the law of God should it happen, no is the answer.
Likewise, do I disapprove of homos*xuality, the answer is no. By the law of God, should it happen the answer is no as well? However, it does. Since it does, it is the exception to the rule. Do you understand things I say?
Tell me what you think.
Saturday, July 31st 2010 at 4:34PM
Harry Watley
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Well, well, well...I wish I could see what this pastor looks like since he thinks he's so bad. This guy has a hell of a nerve starting a rally to "BURN" and torture the Quran.
Since he wants to "burn" and destroy something, but I bet this pastor ain't thinking twice about burning those damn rebel flags to symbolize their hatred of Blacks and their opposition to equal rights.
Also, I bet he ain't trying to burn the section of the Constitution of the USA (where the Blackman/woman are considered 3/5ths of a human being still today).
This pastor needs the piss slapped out of him!
Saturday, July 31st 2010 at 5:03PM
Siebra Muhammad
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Harry, the exception to the rule... And???
Saturday, July 31st 2010 at 5:35PM
Steve Williams
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Hello Steve,
You said this, “Harry, the exception to the rule... And???”
What do you mean, And? And what?
Steve, I told you before I do not want to indulge in stupid conversations. Give me something to think about that is rational and intelligently savvy.
Okay!
Saturday, July 31st 2010 at 6:14PM
Harry Watley
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Hello Siebra,
All though this pastor is wrong; nevertheless, the Quran is not your book since you are not an Arab woman. How many times do I have to remind you of that? Prophet Mohammed did not come to Black American women. Prophet Mohammed specifically came to Arabian women, am I right.
Tell me what you think.
Saturday, July 31st 2010 at 6:17PM
Harry Watley
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Cynthia, have you seen my duct tape? I see Harry's wagging his lying tongue again..
Saturday, July 31st 2010 at 6:35PM
Siebra Muhammad
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Do you mean to tell me Harry there are no exceptions to rules? Don't play the dummy.
Saturday, July 31st 2010 at 7:00PM
Steve Williams
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Steve ;-)....A jackazz is naturally dumb!
@Harry... you say this ((I do not want to argue and get nasty. It is not my character. So, I will leave you alone. ))
You have made your first wise decision
Saturday, July 31st 2010 at 7:34PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
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Yes, harry
My wife, sisters-brothers, aunts-uncles, and Her Children Burn their time learning A Lot of Things.
I cannot stop them, I probably am the Dumbest Family Member---I am in Paradise, surrounded by Worshippers of Their Creator.......
Sunday, August 1st 2010 at 11:39AM
robert powell
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The rally to burn the sacred book to the Muslim will only draw more people to Islam. And how barbaric caucasian Christians can be. After all, it was Christian caucasian that were the slavemasters over black Americans fore-parents. The white christian has historically shown himself to be cruel and antigonistic to people of color. Now, here we go again. Muslims from the world over must come to grips with the race of people that is doing this deed. And reflect what the punishment should be.
Sunday, August 1st 2010 at 6:30PM
jamal Abraham
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Ah, the White Christian.
Sunday, August 1st 2010 at 7:07PM
Steve Williams
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Lets us both look at the TV who is doing this and SEE for ourselves .
Sunday, August 1st 2010 at 7:48PM
jamal Abraham
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Do you mean like looking at the TV to see who did 911?
Sunday, August 1st 2010 at 11:34PM
Steve Williams
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Don't misunderstand Jamal, my position from the first was that 911 was self-inflicted.
Sunday, August 1st 2010 at 11:39PM
Steve Williams
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Sen Ron Paul said American military should get out of Saudi Arabia and leave them people in the Middle East alone. He makes a lot of sense to me.
Sunday, August 1st 2010 at 11:57PM
jamal Abraham
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/*
In re-iteration - "Man-Made!" Religion and Rhetoric.
What a waste of...nevermind.
*/
Monday, August 2nd 2010 at 12:32AM
Gregory V. Boulware, Esq.
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Jamal, that's one of the things I like about Ron Paul. Congress would of course need to be convinced, as representing people like this pastor. He is a disgusting man.
Monday, August 2nd 2010 at 8:35AM
Steve Williams
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Hello Mr. Gregory,
You said this, “"Man-Made!" Religion”
How is this so? What do you mean? What is religion? What is the purpose of religion?
Tell us what you think.
Monday, August 2nd 2010 at 8:41AM
Harry Watley
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This is particular disturbing because the great One God....Almighty God Allah...made available the Quran to man as a mercy. Then to destroy the Holy Scripture...is a very terrible thing indeed.
Tuesday, August 3rd 2010 at 12:18AM
jamal Abraham
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Hello Jamal,
You said this, “God...made available the Quran to man as a mercy.”
I am using my analytical thinking perhaps you ought to do the same, okay.
So, would you take a brief moment to correct me if I am wrong? My understanding is that the Arabian people put the Qumran together as all people are responsible for compiling their own religious books, am I right. For instance, the Jewish people compiled the books of the Bible themselves. The Chinese people compiled the writings of Confucius, The Analytic, right.
In the case of the Quran it was put together by Prophet Mohammed and his companions, am I right.
Now if my belief is true how then could you say that God made available the Quran to man as a mercy?
Now, in the case of Black America’s religious book of guidance that is forthcoming what do Black Americans do with our Holy Book? Or, would you still accept the Arabian Quran over your own Holy Book? Therefore, why would you be concerned about this ignorant White pastor burning the Quran?
Tell me what you think.
Tuesday, August 3rd 2010 at 7:40AM
Harry Watley
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No, you are wrong...Harry....a bunch of Arabs DID NOT invent the Quran.
Tuesday, August 3rd 2010 at 10:30AM
jamal Abraham
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Man is always seeking a new and better way to get what they want done, faster and faster and stronger effective wise than the last preson or thing has done it in the past...I must admit "I" don't think "I" have heard of this one before...
but, "I" doubt if those of this faith will see this as less worst than what the Pope did a few years ago to their Religious faith...(NUP , Smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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Brother GREOGRY "I" back you up with that on 110%. (smile)...
THAT WAS RIGHT ON TIME...LOL
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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...S-O-M-E...is a very, very good word to use, example,
SOME BLACKS...
SOME WHITES...
SOME DO...
SOME DON'T ...
(SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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