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Scientists are constantly trying to update the truth. They know that it is not continuous so requires rediscovery from moment to moment. If it is continuous, then it is not the truth making truth something alive. A remembered truth is a dead thing. Truth must be recalculated each moment it is required. Ever re-evaluating with the universe, though many times coming up with the same answer...perhaps the same answer for 2000 years..but after 2000 years comes up with a new answer..THAT IS THE BEAUTY OF TRUTH ! 21st Century Vision for Black America www.trafford.com/06-2972
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Sunday, August 29th 2010 at 11:31PM
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The beauty of truth is that most of us, even those not claiming to be Scientists, know what caused the floods in Pakistan.
Monday, August 30th 2010 at 12:16AM
Steve Williams
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A blessed day, thanks..Saint....spent a lot of time in my garage. But, sunny and bright.
Because Truth is alive, no one owns it.....rather it must be received each moment, having to re-process itself with the universe.
Monday, August 30th 2010 at 12:32AM
jamal Abraham
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Jake, I think it was a simple event of nature. I don't believe that God concerns himself with sending judgment on the poor.
Monday, August 30th 2010 at 12:53AM
Steve Williams
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little -- Please
anytime you have a saintChristian agreeing with you--watch out for Truth
you have wanted us to respect you as a scientist---
yet you blag, "Scientists are constantly trying to update the truth."
Truth is Eternal---Truth is Creator---Truth was before created!
scientists are created men/women that observe their state, environment and make THEORIES so that They can feel good.
your Truthful understanding of this subject -- should make your lead sentence here,
"Scientists are constantly trying to update Their THEORY of the Truth"
go back to your garage and Theorize on that TRUTH.
Monday, August 30th 2010 at 7:50AM
robert powell
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Hello to All,
I have two questions. What does the recalculation of truth, the flood in Pakistan and a HAARP could cause earthquakes has to do with Black Americans to become a sovereign people on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders?
Second question is there anything that could cause a flood or earthquake in the ignorant Negroes’ mind that we could understand at the least who we are.
I have been dialoguing with you ignorant Negroes going on three years now and we cannot pin down whom the hell we are and where we came from, am I right.
What say you?
Monday, August 30th 2010 at 8:41AM
Harry Watley
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Jake,
I have no doubt that Man will improve its ability to destroy by any means possible, including weather modification.
The oil spill was Man made. War is Man made. Poverty is Man made. God would like to help us, but as it is said, God helps those that help themselves. I don't see judgment here:
http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site...
This is human suffering, whether Man made or a random act of Nature. To relieve suffering God needs us to act God like.
Monday, August 30th 2010 at 8:53AM
Steve Williams
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Harry, they have nothing to do with each other
Monday, August 30th 2010 at 9:00AM
jamal Abraham
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Harry, you asked:
Q. "What does the recalculation of truth, the flood in Pakistan and a HAARP could cause earthquakes has to do with Black Americans to become a sovereign people on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders?"
A. Nothing at all Harry. Some of us like to talk about other things. You sound like a broken record.
Monday, August 30th 2010 at 9:04AM
Steve Williams
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Lets first deal with the old fool............if scientists did not continuously attempt to gain truth updates....they could not benefit from KNOWING it. If it is relevant, there is a great benefit to knowing the truth.
Monday, August 30th 2010 at 9:05AM
jamal Abraham
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clark gives us the definition-- that the little blagger did not--
one is:
4. ( usually plural ) a system of concepts purporting to represent some aspect of the world:
This brings my mind to the Scientists that decided to develop an Atomic/Hydrogen Bomb--
What was on that scientific mind?-----
was it a scientific truth? a state of faithfullness? an idea to destroy the Earth? suicide or what?
can I suggest that scientific 'truths' have become the most backward Responses from the Family of Adaam
and that as an American-- we are american!--- our responses should and need to follow the rolling ball of Change of Our President Baraka Hussein Obama for another 874 days Or 2 years, 4 months, 21 days+ .
Monday, August 30th 2010 at 9:05AM
robert powell
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"All Faith is false, all Faith is true: Truth is the shattered mirror strown
In myriad bits; while each believes his little bit the whole to own."
Sir Richard Burton
Monday, August 30th 2010 at 9:06AM
Dr. Okpara Nosakhere
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Clark, this is just a thought of mine. It is Truth to me (subjective). The best, maybe only, example of objective Truth is Mathematics. God created us, and in general all of his creation, mathematically.
Monday, August 30th 2010 at 9:17AM
Steve Williams
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And as Robert pointed out, it is the obligation of the Scientist to discover new mathematical truth. A scientist does not create or modify the mathematics, only learns and applies.
Monday, August 30th 2010 at 9:25AM
Steve Williams
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Jake, but I think Jamal has brought up one of his more interesting subjects.
Monday, August 30th 2010 at 9:34AM
Steve Williams
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The blog is the "Beauty of Truth" for those that cannot read. What is the beauty of truth ? what about truth makes it beautiful. My science professor once said to me that when you understand something....then you close the book and explain it. Clark gave definition.....but this blog is not the definition of truth....but, what about truth makes it beautiful....it is aspect that truth is alive and is re-processing itself with the universe moment to moment yet comes up with the same resultant many many times yet when a specific time is satisfied, the truth becomes differant then the second before.....making the truth a function of time.
Clark, of the points you mention about truth, it is item 3 that this blog most vividly addresses. IT is that need to verify that requires scientist to continuously get truth updates...if they are going to be factual. Once the truth is known, having been updated, then scientists... hence society.... hence man can develop society based upon the results.
Monday, August 30th 2010 at 9:35AM
jamal Abraham
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Saint....yes. God judges nations and every nation has a record that speaks for or against them. Historically, when a nation's transgressions inflame the MOST HIGH to a level, divine judgement is executed. So has been the case of Noah and the floods, Lot and Sodom and Gomorrah and Moses with Egypt. When God exeutes judgement against a nation, other than those chosen to be saved, HE (God) destroys the rich, poor, old, young, women, children and men of that nation. NOT JUST THE POOR as Steve suggests.
Monday, August 30th 2010 at 9:40AM
jamal Abraham
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sorry jamal,
english comprehension of
3. a proven or verified principle or statement; fact:
all that any scientist does is theorize----Facts are true today, tomorrow, 1431+ years ago.....
you want to believe in the madScientist Yacoob---but that is spongeBob belief and paganChristianity
saintThreaten?
I am on Subject.
saintMad is upset about ajectives?
and you want to knock on my door, or go in my garden, or scientifically 'blackHebrew' manipulate Truth?
Monday, August 30th 2010 at 9:43AM
robert powell
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Jamal, the beauty of truth is comprehended instantly when one see such things as the palace at Alhambra. I credit Steve Muhammad's post on the Moors in Spain for bringing this particular truth to my attention.
Monday, August 30th 2010 at 9:52AM
Steve Williams
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Clark...you are absolute correct....that is the challenge to scientists.
Monday, August 30th 2010 at 9:55AM
jamal Abraham
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Jamal, we were talking about truth, now you have put on your voodoo hat with your judgment talk.
Monday, August 30th 2010 at 9:55AM
Steve Williams
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Okpara...always nice to hear from you....All religion has to fight for the truth...sense no religion owns it. Truth is independant and very much alive. Sure, we were not here at the times of the Noah's flood, or Lot's fire and brimstone, etc. so it takes faith that it was true. Even though, all holy scripture agrees with that accounting. But, that is really outside of the essence of this blog. This blog is pure academia.
Monday, August 30th 2010 at 10:15AM
jamal Abraham
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Jamal, a lie is not the truth. You have spoken yet again about the judgment of God on Nations, outside the essence of this blog. Pure academia, or superstition?
You claim the mind of the Creator. You are his right-hand man then?
Monday, August 30th 2010 at 10:20AM
Steve Williams
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'pure academia'---? lol
you are a littleContradiction
there is Scientific Truth to All Original Scripture; Allaah made all Creation with a Plan and Total HaqalHaqqa....
but a scientist that theorizes that skin color can think--can never find and never wants to find that HaqalHaqq Truth.
scientists say that; "a blackman" and "a whiteman"---think and reason with their color---
I say they cannot!
Are you are a Scientist constantly trying to update the truth?
or
Am I a Scientist constantly trying to update the truth?
Monday, August 30th 2010 at 10:27AM
robert powell
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Am I a Scientist constantly trying to update the truth? TRUTH IS THEORY!!
EXPERIMENTAL FACTS CONCLUDED FROM HYPOTHESIS (EDUCATED GUESS)
Monday, August 30th 2010 at 10:35AM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
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But Cynthia, Logic is one, but Theologies are many.
Monday, August 30th 2010 at 10:45AM
Steve Williams
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In ordinary, non-technical Greek, logos had a semantic field extending beyond "word" to notions such as, on the one hand, language, talk, statement, speech, conversation, tale, story, prose, proposition, and principle; and on the other hand, thought, reason, account, consideration, esteem, due relation, proportion, and analogy.[1]
Despite the conventional translation as "word", it is not used for a word in the grammatical sense; instead, the term lexis (λέξις) was used.[6] However, both logos and lexis derive from the same verb legō (λέγω), meaning "to count, tell, say, speak".[1][6]
In English, logos is the root of "logic," and of the "-logy" suffix (e.g., geology).[7]
Monday, August 30th 2010 at 10:55AM
Steve Williams
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Cynthia...truth and theory are not the same. Truth and hypothesis is not the same. Truth is precisely, exactly a mathematical resultant of processing its variables at any given moment.
Monday, August 30th 2010 at 11:07AM
jamal Abraham
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In the Holy Quran, it teaches that God created the universe in truth. Again, no one owns truth. It is completely independant of religion, races, nations, etc.
Robert your folly is really coming out.....keep opening your mouth and you may put yourself into level of the rodents.
Monday, August 30th 2010 at 11:10AM
jamal Abraham
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Yes, Cynthia...truth CAN come from a hypothesis or an educated guess...but, you will never know until critical analysis and test to verify.
Monday, August 30th 2010 at 11:13AM
jamal Abraham
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ok.... I'll follow the blog.... Im taking Philosophy, Ethics and Psychology.... As a Science... conclusions are based on proven theory, via experimentation process... ALL science... FDA... USDA...etc..Ford, Datsun, Sears Tower... etc.... all go through a TEST phase
Truth is simply reality... u can't upgrade truth......Truth is Unchangeable:- It is impossible for truth to change....
Monday, August 30th 2010 at 11:32AM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
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May I add.... Math is a science.... which begins order of operations... The unique style of scientific science... is operations can be mixed and results are the same; ex...A * B + C (A * B) + C...
Again based on Scientific Theory
Monday, August 30th 2010 at 11:39AM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
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Almost, Cynthia...but, not quite....take for example the sea level on earth. Scientists take measurements to gain an accurate for figure for sea level. Knowing the truth of sea level, then scientists can say for sure how tall Mt. Everest stands. Well, scientists have determined that the sea level has risen 6 to 8 inches (15 to 20 cm) in the last 100 years. Thus, the truth can change and at times it does change.
Monday, August 30th 2010 at 11:54AM
jamal Abraham
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But the formula for calculating the height of Mt. Everest remains the same.
Monday, August 30th 2010 at 11:59AM
Steve Williams
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i.e, the distance between 2 points. But how does the formula take into account the tides? Mean sea level?
Monday, August 30th 2010 at 12:01PM
Steve Williams
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You shall know the Truth, and the Truth shall set you free (smile)
Monday, August 30th 2010 at 1:09PM
Siebra Muhammad
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Absolutely, Steve....That is the challenge to the instrumentation used to perform the actual tests. Scientists use tidal guages. A tide gauge is a large (1 foot [30 cm] or more in diameter), long pipe with a small hole below the water line. This pipe is often called a stilling well. Whereas, even though waves are changing the water level outside the gauge constantly, they have little effect inside the gauge. The sea level can be read relatively accurately inside this pipe. If read on a regular basis over a time span of years and then averaged, you can get a measurement of sea level.
Again, as noted in the opening of this blog....that.....the fact that truth can change.....is actually, the beauty of truth !
Monday, August 30th 2010 at 1:20PM
jamal Abraham
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Saint. you ask "By the way have you dreamed or created another scientific truth in your engineering field? There are several things, I have been working on; many of which will be employed in our established Land in Africa. But, one thing to mention is a truth scientists have been wrestling with....which has to do with the temperature characteristics of a electric motor. A running motor generates heat of todays design. I have been working the conditions for a new style electric motor that would be differant. This running motor would produce heat to a proprietary constant then self cool.
Monday, August 30th 2010 at 2:09PM
jamal Abraham
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Hello Steve,
Steve slow down and let Black Americans have a moment to discuss truth and is it relevant to our problems in White America, okay.
Monday, August 30th 2010 at 5:50PM
Harry Watley
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Harry, Once a firm grasp of how truth is resolved, blacks in America can perhaps appreciate that the truth today may be differant than truth 2000 years ago.
Monday, August 30th 2010 at 6:23PM
jamal Abraham
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Harry slow down? Why? So you can keep up? I'll slow my role when Clark, Irma Cynthia, or Robert advise. In the mean time, do try to keep up!
Monday, August 30th 2010 at 7:00PM
Steve Williams
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wow
Thank you Steve and Clark
for 1431+ years --Billions of The Family of Adaam the World Over, have identified, studied, questioned. researched, experimented, analyzed and communicated in the Original Language and Location of Events---the "Experiment" ;
some might Call;
"The Proper Way of Life for The Family of Adaam---The Truth of Living in Monotheism"---
jamal, harry or other---"logical scientists";
can we draw a conclusion that the data formed and communicated by AlQur'aan is Haqq--the Truth?
Tuesday, August 31st 2010 at 8:57AM
robert powell
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Robert, Jamal and Harry can't see it, the simplicity, One God, One Creation, One Family of Man.
Tuesday, August 31st 2010 at 9:47AM
Steve Williams
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No, I am unable to turn falsehood into truth. There is no need for the creator to create eyes for humanity had He not want us to SEE color.
Tuesday, September 14th 2010 at 9:20PM
jamal Abraham
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how primordal!
jamal--Allaah created Adaam----and the Family of Adaam
Allaah tells us He made men different so that would know one another,
paganChristianity is the maker of 'blackie-whitie' this and that ----AlIslaam is the Logically, Scientific and Intellectual Evolution of Monotheistic Belief
colorWorship is a sect of paganChristianity.
That Dear Writer is THE BEAUTY OF TRUTH.....
best english meaning of 1431+ year Scholastic Arabic script. May Allaah have mercy on my mistakes
Sûrat A-Hijr
(The Firm Ground) XV
In the Name of Allâah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful
1. Alif-Lâm-Râ. These are Verses of the Book and a plain Qur’âan.
2. How much would those who disbelieved wish that they had been Muslims those who have submitted themselves to Allâah’s Will in Islâam - Monotheism - this will be on the Day of Resurrection when they will see the disbelievers going to Hell and the Muslims going to Paradise.
3. Leave them to eat and enjoy, and let them be preoccupied with false hope. They will come to know!
4. And never did We destroy a township but there was a known decree for it.
5. No nation can advance its term, nor delay it.
6. And they say: "O you Mohamed Õáì Çááå Úáíå æ Óáã) to whom the Dhikr (AlQur’âan) has been sent down! Verily, you are a mad man!
7. "Why do you not bring angels to us if you are of the truthful?"
8. We send not the angels down except with the truth, for torment, and in that case, the disbelievers would have no respite!
9. Verily, We, it is We Who have sent down the Dhikr - AlQur’âan and surely, We will guard it from corruption.
10. Indeed, We sent Messengers before you (Mohamed Õáì Çááå Úáíå æ Óáã) amongst the communities before.
Tuesday, September 14th 2010 at 9:42PM
robert powell
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Who would expect a non-scientist nd buddhist to understand science when they have already fabricated reality with the arts.
Tuesday, September 14th 2010 at 11:27PM
jamal Abraham
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What, Robert, you would have Allah(God) dissolve all the beautiful colors in life with one solid hue.....what a ugly sight. Then you choose to make science a subset to religion. I'll forgive you because you are not a true scientist. Science was present in the universe before the thought of religion.
Tuesday, September 14th 2010 at 11:29PM
jamal Abraham
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The colors of the rainbow all contribute to the ONE beauty. What happens if we separate the colors? It is no longer a rainbow.
Wednesday, September 15th 2010 at 1:17AM
Adam Fate
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again, so primordial
Scientists have been studying AlQur'aan and the Sunnah of Mohamed(as) for 1432 years.
and I have already debunked your scientific theories.----
you are a light weight ---
you have'nt YET, in 40-50+ years Read AlQur'aan and you know nothing of The Science of AlQur'aan, Hadeeth, Sunnah or Faith.
just an angry slave paganChristian--made at the 'whiteman'----you believe is god.
you, like harry, can only go around and round in a little circle---
so I leave you and your light weight twin pole, harry.
Cause you negros attack and DisColor Truth.
Wednesday, September 15th 2010 at 11:17PM
robert powell
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actually, it took me quite a while to stop laughing at this about SCIENCE...BECAUSE MY TAKE ON THIS IS THEY WILL BE ABLE TO FIND THE ANSWER TO THIS THE DAY AFTER THEY FIIND OUT HOW THE HUMAN BRAIN WORKS. LOOOOOOOOOOOL (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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@Jamal you don't have to keep proving to me that you have no idea what "i" just said is taught directly in all class that teach CRITICAL THINKING. BUT THEN CLARK DID HAVE TO TELL YOU A CORRECTION ABOUT WHICH SCIENCE IS WHICH SCIENCE WHEN YOU WERE TRYING TO PROVE ME WRONG THAT TIME. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL (SMILE)
DON'T EXPECT ME TO BE SURPRISED IF YOU DELETE ME ASKING YOU ABOUT ENGEERNING ETICS AS STEVE DID...AS THIS IS ON POINT OF THE SUBJECT OF T-R-U-T-H IN THE FORM OF DELETE OR JUST START CALLING NAMES. "IS TRUE OF JAMAL" (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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