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EXPRESSING AN OPINION: But I definately am not in agreement with burning any Holy Books of Verse. I cannot understand the significance in burning of religious verses. I am speaking of the Koran. One church is set on burning the books to reflect the pastor says on the insulting rebellions group of Muslims who on September 11 used acts of terrorism. I don't agree it is a way to handle this. God's says vengence is his. Devoted to Christianity I know how much this would impact me. I really do not agree with the reasonsings except it is to gain attention and show a radical behavior of another way to spread hate and division....But, this may be okay with you...I don't know? This is my opinion. MIISRAEL
Posted By: MIISRAEL Bride
Wednesday, September 8th 2010 at 8:48AM
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Hello Ms. Shields,
I understand your opinion about other people’s religious book. For instance, the Quran belongs to the Arabian people. The Bible belongs to the European gentiles. The Torah belongs to the Jewish people.
Now, since you are a Black American and a new race of people what is your opinion about your religion, LIFE and your forthcoming religious book?
What say you?
Wednesday, September 8th 2010 at 10:19AM
Harry Watley
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There is certainly an evil act, and is counter to what Jesus taught. How can this man possibly be a follower of Jesus?
Wednesday, September 8th 2010 at 10:28AM
Steve Williams
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Harry, how could we possibly have an opinion on a book that DOES NOT EXIST?
Wednesday, September 8th 2010 at 10:30AM
Steve Williams
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@Harry--My opinion is quoted from the blog: "I definately am not in agreement with burning any Holy Books of Verse." However, I have to agree with Steve I cannot have an opinion on a book that does not yet exist. However, when or if your book come forth I wouldn't want it burned. God forbid Harry!
@ Steve I agree, ..there are many false teachers, even if this man thinks he's doing good, Jesus does not teach doing evil for evil --or taking on acts of vengences.
Wednesday, September 8th 2010 at 12:00PM
MIISRAEL Bride
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Hello to All,
I believe that you all are misunderstanding the acts of this Christian pastor from Florida. I do not believe that his actions have anything to do with evil, vengeance or what Jesus taught. I believe that the pastor is trying to make a statement to the Muslim community that White America is a Christian country.
Mrs. Shields because you cannot comment on something that does not exist yet is indicative of a lack of foresight. When a person does not have foresight, it is a sign that the person is massively ignorant.
Foresight is an element of being an intelligent being. Am I right or am I wrong?
Do you not realize that the worshiping that the children of Israel were doing was of the Egyptians and not of their specific worshiping handed down by the Prophet Abraham? Likewise, do you not realize that the worshiping that you and other Black Americans do is the worshiping of the European gentiles and White Americans? Therefore, one of the things that Moses did was to lift his people out of the Egyptian worshiping back to the worshiping of Prophet Abraham, am I right. Consequentially, am I not trying to lift you all out of the worshiping of the European gentiles and White Americans into our own worshiping of God?
God did not give the world one prophet for all people when God know that not all people are the same. Therefore, God sent prophets to people of their own race and that prophet is of the same race of his people.
Mrs. Shields you have a mentally dead mind. You ought to sometimes sit back quietly and be honest with yourself and ask yourself certain questions such as why are there different prophets racially speaking?
Tell me what you think.
Wednesday, September 8th 2010 at 12:23PM
Harry Watley
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Harry you are spirtually dead so we have nothing in common here when it comes to spirit. I seek the Spirit which tells me what and when to speak. If I am to be quiet the Spirit will speak for me.
Wednesday, September 8th 2010 at 12:36PM
MIISRAEL Bride
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And... as to what you've written of the pastor's actions I give the respect as you are voicing your opinion.
Wednesday, September 8th 2010 at 12:59PM
MIISRAEL Bride
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harry back off and show some respect ! you have your way of seeing things and she does to ! dont come over here trying to bad mouth ! we know where you stand ! now back up !
Wednesday, September 8th 2010 at 1:16PM
DAVID JOHNSON
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David, thank you for looking out for me...
Wednesday, September 8th 2010 at 1:28PM
MIISRAEL Bride
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Yes, Irma that's my point exactly.! You have worded this more clearly than I.
--That's my Irma Girl! [Smiles back at you!]
Wednesday, September 8th 2010 at 1:33PM
MIISRAEL Bride
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Hello Mrs. Shields,
I believe that you mis-understood my gesture when I said that you ought to sit back quietly. My gesture was not implying that you do not speak. My gesture were suggesting to you that you ought to have an open mind and rationalize step by step and precept upon precept that your thinking would be straight and correct.
For instance, the Quran belongs to the Arabian people. Since you are not an Arab woman and most importantly, you do not have a book of your own is what you ought to be more concerned about than the Quran or the Bible.
I had explained to you that an intelligent people are always exciting to receive anything from God. For example, the children of Israel for a time were excited that Moses went up Mt. Zion to receive the 10 Commandments. Even though the 10 Commandments did not exist, they were still intelligent enough to be excited and comment on the anticipated 10 Commandments while you and Steve claim that you all cannot comment on something that does not exist. My answer was that you are mentally dead and severely ignorant. That is why I said to you about quietly sitting back and thinking over everything that you are hearing.
Black Americans needs some intelligence and we do not need to be arguing and fighting with each other. If we could think, it would alleviate the arguing and stupidity, am I right.
Now, let us see if you can think. I will ask you this question. While you do not have a book of the own as the Arabian people has the Quran should you not be concerned about having a book of your own rather than being concerned about this pastor burning the Quran?
Tell me what you think.
Wednesday, September 8th 2010 at 1:54PM
Harry Watley
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Harry, your are correct conversing with you is severely ignorant. Therefore, I will close my mind & quietly sit back. Mentally dead people cannot think.
Wednesday, September 8th 2010 at 2:21PM
MIISRAEL Bride
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Irma...The pastor has his hands full to stick with the commitment. Yet, there is a chance he may change his mind. As of now..there's still time for him to reconsider.
We'll see if he'll crow....
Wednesday, September 8th 2010 at 2:27PM
MIISRAEL Bride
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Hello Mrs. Shields,
I asked you this question. “While you do not have a book of the own as the Arabian people has the Quran should you not be concerned about having a book of your own rather than being concerned about this pastor burning the Quran?”
Your answer was this, “I will close my mind & quietly sit back. Mentally dead people cannot think.“
Your answer is not answering my question. You are just being sarcastic and nasty, which is not what I want you to do. What I want you to do are not to be mentally dead, but to use your common sense and become mentally alive that you could sensibly answer my question. Again, all that you are doing is being sarcastic and nasty. Your type of attitude is on becoming of a Christian, am I right.
Now, please answer my question faithfully and honestly. Should you not be concerned about having a book of your own as the Arabian has the Quran and the European gentiles has the Bible and the Jewish people has the Torah, which is all from God?
Tell me what you think.
Wednesday, September 8th 2010 at 2:40PM
Harry Watley
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" I love you Harry." This is the attitude I'm showing you as a Christian, true Christians show love.
Perhaps...another time for questions....Surely, you'll be waiting for me.
Wednesday, September 8th 2010 at 3:01PM
MIISRAEL Bride
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Irma, I am hoping and praying as well.
Wednesday, September 8th 2010 at 3:08PM
MIISRAEL Bride
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Let us pray...pray for all our sakes...
Wednesday, September 8th 2010 at 5:23PM
Siebra Muhammad
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thank you MIISRAEL for the beautiful Picture.
irma may know better than me but--it seems ---
all "books" from The Creator---1431+-3500 years ago were Oral Revelations thru Prophets and Messengers....
AlIslaam has the Living Oral Revelations of The Creator passed down 1431+ years without any change, transliteration or translation........from to or from any language.
The Revelation--"book"---AlQur'aan today is Memorized by at least 20% of the 2 Billion Muslims on the Planet and AlQur'aan has been passed down this way from Mohamed(as) 1431+ years ago with Billions of HafeethAlQur'aan.
so for some europeanGerman to want to burn korans; SOUNDS like paganChristianity; to me and my baniISRAEL friends....
Wednesday, September 8th 2010 at 8:08PM
robert powell
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Hi Butterfly: Love the comment to pray for us all.
@Robert: I was being very selective with that pic, glad you like it. I dislike the ideal of burning books... Maybe I'm considered one with an ancient heart. :>)
Thursday, September 9th 2010 at 12:40PM
MIISRAEL Bride
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Robert is prostituting Allah, calling himself a Muslim when acting like nothing more than the "pagan Christians" who he speaks negatively about so much!YOU NEED TO APOLOGIZE TO EVERYBODY YOU HAVE WRONGED ! THEN AND ONLY THEN CAN A SOCIAL PATH LIKE YOU BE TRUSTED ! AND YOU HAVE HURT PEOPLE SO BAD I DONT THINK THEY WILL BELIEVE YOU ! YOU ARE THE REASON WHY BIA HAS GONE FROM #2 TO #7 YOUR SOCIAL PATHETIC BEHAVIOR ,,,,
THE MIND OF A SOCIAL PATH <
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims. YOU HAVE GIVEN RAMADAN A BLACK EYE AND MUSLIM ARE TO CONDUCT THEMSELVES WITH HONOR I GUESS YOUR CHANGING THE ORDER OF ISLAM ,,YOU POOR MAN ! WITH ALL THAT KNOWLEDGE YOUR STILL A OLD FOOL ! FOR ALL THE REAL MUSLIM :
Don't do anything that causes you to break your fast. Abu Sa'id al-Khudri reported that the Prophet, pbuh, said: "Whoever fasts the month of Ramadan, obeying all of its limitations and guarding himself against what is forbidden, has in fact atoned for any sins he committed before it." (according to Ahmad and al-Baihaqi, with a good chain (i.e. reliable hadith)
Read more at Suite101: Fiqh of Ramadan: Some of the Laws Regarding Ramadan: Preferred and Allowable Acts http://islamic-practices.suite101.com/arti...
Thursday, September 9th 2010 at 1:54PM
DAVID JOHNSON
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sorry MIISRAEL
i brought in some dogPoo on my shoe that has written more blogs with my picture and name than I have.
i think he likes me. he thinks I am one of his happy prison buddies---
but thank you as always for your Sweet words---and now I know there is a great distance between you and the paganApe with mental DNA from the Dr.Jones --- floridaBurner
Thursday, September 9th 2010 at 10:46PM
robert powell
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Hello to All,
Why have you all flipped head over heels about Mr. Robert Powell? Why are you all so obsessed with this man over your own salvation? Is it really true that Black Americans as I have been saying for the longest are the most ignorant and stupid people in this country?
Again, why are you all obsessed with Mr. Robert Powell over your own salvation knuckleheads?
What say you?
Friday, September 10th 2010 at 12:37AM
Harry Watley
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Thank you gentlemen, however let's keep to the blog subject. I don't mind a little airing out but please let this be enough of it on this blog. Will you allow me this respect?
Kindly regards....
MIISRAEL
Friday, September 10th 2010 at 7:05AM
MIISRAEL Bride
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Thank You MIISRAEL--and harry
thanks for the subject-AlQur'aan
Allaahu akbar, Allaahu akbar laIllaahailallaah
Allaahu akbar, Allaahu akbar waLillaaillhamd
Quntum Amal Biquiruun
Sûrat Al-Anfâl (The Spoils of Conflict) VIII
In the Name of Allâah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful
1. They ask you Mohamed Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã) about the spoils of conflict. Say: "The spoils are for Allâah and the Messenger." So fear Allâah and adjust all matters of difference among you, and obey Allâah and His Messenger Mohamed Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã), if you are Believers.
2. The Believers are only those who, when Allâah is mentioned, feel a fear in their hearts and when His Verses are recited unto them, the Verses increase their Faith; and they put their trust in their Lord Alone;
3. Who perform As-Salât (Iqâmat-as-Salât) and spend out of that We have provided them.
4. It is they who are the Believers in Truth. For Them are grades of Dignity with their Lord, Forgiveness and the Reward of Paradise.
5. As your Lord caused you Mohamed Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã) to go out from your home with the Truth; and a party among the Believers disliked it,
6. Disputing with you concerning the Truth after it was made manifest, as if they were being driven to death, while they were death seed.
7. Remember when Allâah promised you Muslims, one of the two parties (of the enemy, either the army or the caravan) that it should be yours; you wished that the one not armed (the caravan) should be yours, but Allâah willed to justify the truth by His Words and to cut off the roots of the disbelievers in the battle of Badr.
8. That He might cause the truth to triumph and bring falsehood to nothing, even though the Mujrimûn (disbelievers, polytheists, sinners, criminals) hate it.
41. And know that whatever of conflict gain that you may earn, one-fifth (1/5th) of it is assigned to Allâah, to the Messenger, to the near relatives of Mohamed Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã), to the orphans, Al-Masâkîn (the poor) and the one just arrived, if you have believed in Allâah and in that which We sent down to Our slave Mohamed Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã on the Day of Criterion - between right and wrong, the Day when the two forces met at Badr; And Allâah is able to do all things.
42. Remember when you were on the near side of the valley, and they on the farther side, and the caravan on the ground below you. Even if you had made a joint appointment to meet, you would certainly have failed in the appointment, but you met that Allâah might accomplish a matter already in His Knowledge, so that those who were to be destroyed for their rejecting the Faith might be destroyed after a clear evidence, and Believers might live after clear evidence. And surely, Allâah is All-Hearer, All-Knower.
43. Remember when Allâah showed them to you as few in Mohamed’s Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã) dream; if He had shown them to you as many, you would surely have been discouraged, and you would surely have disputed in making a decision. But Allâah saved you. Certainly, He is the All-Knower of what is in the breasts.
44. Remember when you met the forces of the disbelievers on the Day of Badr, He showed them to you as few in your eyes and He made you appear as few in their eyes, so that Allâah might accomplish a matter already in His Knowledge, and to Allâah return all matters for decision.
45. O you who believe! When you meet an enemy force, take a firm stand against them and remember the Name of Allâah, both with tongue and mind, so that you may be successful.
Friday, September 10th 2010 at 7:56AM
robert powell
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@MIISRAEL, THANK YOU FOR ALWAYS TRYING TO BRING UNITY AND PEACE...
THE GOD WE ALL LOVE AND RESPECTS NEEDS MORE LIKE YOU JOINING IN WITH THOSE OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. LOL(SMILE)
MUCH 'UNCONDITIONAL LOV TO US ALL...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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MIISRAEL, let chant (pray) that former president Bush will do as he is being asked to do and make a statement in all of this...short of this happening it is my belief that no one will come up against this JIM CROW Teaparty's back lash if he does not go through with it...
How can he change his stance on God is in him in his efforts to protect our Christian Nation...
MIISRAEL "I" do believe this is going to be a very important and much needed as well as a long, long over due WAKE UP CALL TO ALL ON ThIS PLANET as related to a Christian Nation 'must' represent peace on earth and good will towards mankind. (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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As for the Harry's of the world who are no different than this preacher who plans to burn the Koran this just may raise his numbers of followers from 50 (more than our site NATION BUILDERS CAN CLAIM) TO 51 AND THAT 51ST PERSON MAY BE THE ONE THAT WILL BE ABLE TO PUT THIS MESS TO REST AS NOT A GOOD IDEA As a long term project for raising membership. (smile)
In other words I believe this pastor has bitten off much more than he can chew with this one. ..all it seem that is left open for him and this threat to burn the Holy Koran is to prove that he has concern for someone besides himslef like maybe our troops on the war front line and that our country is made up of many different religious and not religious citizens. (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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MIISRAEL, "i" MUST ACCEPT THIS MAN'S LEGAL RIGHTS UNDER THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO BURN THIS BOOK...
BUT AT THE SAME TIME "I" REFUSE RESPECT OR ACCEPT THE BURNING OF ANY BOOK IF I AGREE WITH OR DON'T AGREE WITH WHAT IS WRITTEN IN ANY BOOK , AS IT IS A FORM OF EDUCATION.(SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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