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KORAN BURNING PASTOR: WHO IS THIS GUY? HIS PROBLEM WITH THE GERMAN GOV'T? HERE IS THE UNTOLD STORY... (329 hits)

Terry Jones, the pastor of the Dove World Outreach Center who plans to burn Korans on Saturday to the chagrin of many anti-Islam andanti-mosque advocates, has a long history of claiming that he is the one subjected to discrimination. Before he moved to Florida in 2008 to take the helm of the DWOC, he had a small church in Cologne with some pretty big problems -- and plenty of prominent Republicans had his back.

KORAN BURNING PASTOR WAS ONCE G. O. P.’S POSTER CHILD FOR GERMAN INTOLERANCE OF CHRISTIANS, Sept. 9, 2010


By Megan Carpentier, TALKING POINTS MEMO


Jones went to Germany in 1981 to found theChristliche Gemeinschaft Köln (known in English as the Christian Community of Cologne), Americans would recognize as a Pentacostal church in the charismatic tradition. A recent observer, for instance, described services there as energetic and saw a congregation member speaking in tongues.

The whole worship time resembled more an aerobics class or a night club (it was Friday evening after all) and was very energetic. Three hundred people bouncing up and down are quite something to behold. In addition, there were a female dance group in white costumes and 15 people waving national flags performing in front of the stage. A gentleman behind me was loudly singing in tongues.

Reports in the German press describe Jones' tenure as somewhat darker. One journalist told Deutsche Wellethat church members' persecution at the hands of the state and their neighbors was a common theme of his services.

[Jounalist Brigitte] Baetz told Deutsche Welle that Jones commonly referred to the city of Cologne as a "Gate to Hell" and emphasized that Christians were "persecuted" there and took on the role of "innocent victims who would be rewarded for their suffering."

A contemporaneous interview with Jones for Christian magazine The Voice (since removed) confirms that account. Baetz noted that Jones was deeply involved in opposition to a planned mosque in Cologne, and Der Spiegel noted yesterday that Jones inveighed against Islam from his German pulpit as well. But his preaching went far beyond sermons about religious differences.

Jones became increasingly radical as the years went by, former associates say. At one point he wanted to help a homos*xual member to "pray away his sins." Later he began to increasingly target Islam in his sermons. A congregation member reported that some members were afraid to attend services because they expected to be attacked by Muslims.

But even before Jones began inveighing against Islam, Der Stern reported that he was having trouble with the local government in the mid-nineties because he organized a group of nurses to encourage very ill patients to end treatment in favor of prayer. In a court trial in the nineties, Theo Matthias Herget (a nurse and former Pentacostal adherent) testified in German:

"I have heard from colleagues that members of the group attempted a healing in the hospital with an old woman in a wheelchair - she had multiple sclerosis. One dragged her out of bed and declared that she was healed." He also observed that in further "healings, two more people died."

The church denied the allegations -- but it was around this time that local authorities apparently began looking into the congregation and its finances.

In the 1990s, Germany was under fire by the U.S. State Department over its classification of the Church of Scientology as a for-profit institution rather than a church -- in part because of its widely-reported tithing policy. In Germany, as in the United States, Jones' church had a for-profit arm. By Jones' own admission, the CGK collected used furniture from its members for donation and sold off the remainders: investigations by the Gainesville Sun, Alternet, Daily Kos (which unearthed Jones' eBay store) and TPMMuckraker, show that both Jones' business and his use of church members to staff it continue today.

Jones' for-profit businesses threw his church's non-profit status into question and prompted reported raids by local tax authorities in Germany. It also brought Jones and his church to the attention of Amnesty International, British Lord Duncan McNair, the U.S. State Department, then-Sen. Alfonse D'Amato (R-NY) (who was chairing the Commission on Cooperation and Security In Europe at the time), and Sen. Michael Enzi (R-WY), all of whom defended Jones and his church. (Neither D'Amato nor Enzi returned calls for comment.)

Eventually, the church's tax-exempt status was reinstated; in 2002, Jones was forced to pay a 3,000 Euro fine for using the honorific "Doctor" without a degree. In 2007, members reportedly confronted Jones about the direction of the church and his increasingly disturbing rhetoric, to no apparent effect. In 2008, following reported financial irregularities, Jones and his wife were expelled by the congregation and returned to the United States.

At least a few of his German congregants initially followed Jones to Gaineville before becoming disillusioned. The remaining, smaller CGK in Cologne has had no contact with Jones since expelling him, and doesn't support the Koran burning.
Posted By: Richard Kigel
Thursday, September 9th 2010 at 3:53PM
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This shows--the guy is certifiably nuts.


Thursday, September 9th 2010 at 3:54PM
Richard Kigel
Crazy!!!!


Thursday, September 9th 2010 at 8:38PM
Richard Kigel
...AND, I WILL LAIKE TO SAY TO THIS GENERATION...JIM CROW COMES WITH THE HOLY BIBLEIN THEIR HANDS DOING GOD'S WORK...

BEEN THERE , DONE THAT...

(SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
...AND , CLARK NOW THAT donald trump has found a way into this there is no way it will be off the mass media any time soon...when I heard that Trump had stepped in tosay he would buy these people out and they must move 5 blocks away, I said to myself they should accept Trumps offer on teh condition that is name goes up as he is the one who financed the new Mosque. looooooool (smile)

Clark, this man is going to end up in prison or he will live to regret this move for attention for the rest of his life...and I do believe that this country is going to be facing more than we expect...the last ting any country needs is a religious civil war! ONE WILL ALWAYS LOOSE A FIGHT WITH PEOPLES WHO ARE WILLING TO DIE FOR A CAUSE WHILE THE OTHER ONE IS FIGHTING FOR A PAY CHECK!

WE WERE A DEMOCRATIC NATION BEFORE WE BECAME A 'CHRISTIAN NATION" NO CONSTUTION CAN LAST IF THERE IS NO SEPARATION OF RELIGION AND STATE AND THIS IS WHAT A CHRISTIANNATION STANDS FOR RELIGION OVER LAWS AS IN "JIM CROW"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AMERICA WAKE UP...(nup!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
LETS JUST SAY HE GOT MORE ATTENTION ABOUT HATE AS RELATED TO MUSLIMS THAN HE DID WITH HIS MESSAGES THAT WERE ANTI-GAY...

I NEVER GO AGINST ANYONE FOR DOING THINGS IN THEIR OWN BEST INTEREST...I AM ONLY AGAINST THAT THINGS LIKE THIS DONE AS DOING THE WORK OF GOD BEING SO MUCH A SOCAL ACCEPTED NORM IN AMERICA. (NUP)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF ACCEPTING HATE AND BEING AGAINST THE T-RU-T-H...

THE MESSAGE JUST IN FROM THE IMAM IS THAT THE PASTOR JONES LIED ON HIM AS HE HAS NOT SPOKEN WITH JONES AND HE HAS NO INTENTIONS OF MOVING IT OR VIOLATING HIS RELIGION OR THE RELIGION OF ANY ONE ELSE...

NOW WATCH AS THE IMAM GETS TO BE BLAMED IN TIS MAN'S SAYING TIS LIE AND NOT THIS PASTOR BECAUSE HE IS A CHRISTIAN...WHO ABUSE'S THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION BUT HE IS WHITE AND MALE....

TRUTH WILLS OUT BUT IS NOT ACCEPTED IN AMERICA NOW IS IT?!? AND, AS I SAID BEFORE IF KORANS ARE NOT BURNED ON 9/11, "I" WILL BE SHOCKED AS THIS MAN'S NOT BURNING IT IS GOING TO UPSET A LOT OF THE THOSE PEOPLE "WITH OUT HOODS " TODAY WHO WANTS TO PUT THEIR PEOPLE IN WASHINGTON...(NUP)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
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