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Will someone PLEASE bring this issue to the forefront. I cant speak for any other community, but while black men in our community are taking the largest of the blame and children are taking a big hit as well,sisters (and I hate to say this) in our community are being absolved of the responsibility they have for contributing to this high statistic of fatherlessness and out of wedlock children. WILLING fathers make for good family men!And it will only get higher if the few men that are available in our community are the focus of something that is a fundamental right AND responsibility of the women in our community-pregnancy prevention. Its time for tough decisions. We need a congressional hearing on this issue. We cannot keep hiding behind "the best interest of the child" and ignoring the realities that jailing black men and the many other measure will notbring black men home, it only further perpetuates this crazy cycle that distances men and women in our community. We should consider alternatives to a system that just has NOT worked, perhaps more aggressiveprevention funding geared towards our girlsand boys. 21+ should not warrant government involvement for financially stable women and those that are not, may committ to 5 year counseling and job/trade or academicplacementto become self-sufficient in the absence of a man. In the best interest of children it is better that some men are simply not a part of the picture so as not to sustain a life of inconsistency and confusion. Forced fatherhood is not in the best interest of our children as we cannotlegislate fatherhood for many that will simply never be fathers. there are many men that will willingly, however custodial battles that only demand financial support from those menhas and will not work.We need to start over with a phase out of the current system.

Thank you,

Posted By: DAVID JOHNSON
Saturday, January 1st 2011 at 7:51PM
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. We cannot keep hiding behind "the best interest of the child" and ignoring the realities that jailing black men and the many other measure will notbring black men home, it only further perpetuates this crazy cycle that distances men and women in our community. We should consider alternatives to a system that just has NOT worked, perhaps more aggressiveprevention funding geared towards our girlsand boys. 21+ should not warrant government involvement for financially stable women and those that are not, may committ to 5 year counseling and job/trade or academicplacementto become self-sufficient in the absence of a man. In the best interest of children it is better that some men are simply not a part of the picture so as not to sustain a life of inconsistency and confusion.
Saturday, January 1st 2011 at 9:25PM
DAVID JOHNSON

If there were no guarantees ofchild support and custody, I suspect that less women would be willing to engage in such risky reckless behavior. However this dependencyupon the two continue to destroy our community.When it comes to abortion we consider it merely a fetus, but with the womans decision to go full term with pregnancy and the fathers early communication of no desire to be a part of the process, all of a sudden we are offended that a man would walk away from his unborn CHILD. So for your convenience its not technically KILLING a child but if he walks it is an unforgiveable sin? WE HAVE TO HONESTLY DISCUSS THE HYPROCRISY OF THESE BELIEFS IN OUR COMMUNITY! So what do we do? We criminalize mens desire to not become fathers. This may be an immoral issue but not a crime! So a woman is already not receiving the support she desires but now we have given the black man a felony, he may lose his drivers license and may even lose his professional license to practice his profession (e.g. barbers license) How is this helping the black community? And we hear about it so much that we have allowed ourselves to be indoctrinated with the belief that this practice is not harmful! We cannot continue to reduce such a complex discussion to this problem as merely being a need for black men to start mannin up as many of our leaders seem to buy into. On a side note we cannot allow self-proclaimed "experts" (Black entertainers) to write books and lead the discussion about manhood and relationships and take their word and experiences as law.
Saturday, January 1st 2011 at 9:29PM
DAVID JOHNSON

Roe v Wade gave women the right to unilaterally make a decision to terminate pregnancy without the input of the expecting father, including men only in the decision as it related to financial obligation. Growing education and access to contraception changed the landscape for women, as choice extended beyond decision about abortion to having a variety of options being provided women to prevent unwanted pregnancy. So.. If a woman got pregnant and believed she was not financially or emotionally prepared for motherhood she could terminate pregnancy even if the father desired the child. Additionally, a woman could drop their children at safe havens (in many states) or put their child up for adoption and never have their lifes course altered. Millions of women (and not just poor uneducated young women) abort or give their children away every year as it is their right to do so. However in this conversation of rights versus responsibilities, when men walk away from thevery SAMEresponsibility that can change his lifes course he is referred to as a deadbeat.The same top three reasons that women abort are the same three reasons that elicit fear and anxiety in men and young boys.We preach accountability/responsibility (and should continue) to our young men but in our efforts to protect our young women we dont effectively communicate the idea that with rights like CHOICE comes great responsibilities. We counsel our pregnant young women about the options they have encouraging them that their options make it possible to continue in their educational or career aspirations. But when It comes to our young men whose college and career aspirations may be effected, they are simply encouraged to "man up". This growing resentment of many black men towards black women is the result of the interesting dichotomy where there are the womans declarations of independence and autonomy while selectively embracing victimization for things like unwanted pregnancy. In 2010 with the pro-choice mantra being My choice my body it should be interpreted that if a woman CHOOSES not to take responsibility for contraception, CHOOSES to then take the risk of unprotected s*x or c*ndom failure she should not be allowed to use terms like man up when in essence it was an act of negligence or in some cases intent on her part as wellthat led to pregnancy. Except in the case of rape, if s*x is consensual, why do we still say that he "got her pregnant"? This seems to imply that he forced her to take off her clothes, forced her into the act, forced her not to be on birth control etc.
Saturday, January 1st 2011 at 9:43PM
DAVID JOHNSON

i have to go but i shall return to see what is being said thank you for the interest in what is going in in the black side of town !!@
Saturday, January 1st 2011 at 9:44PM
DAVID JOHNSON

the interesting dichotomy where there are the womans declarations of independence and autonomy while selectively embracing victimization for things like unwanted pregnancy. In 2010 with the pro-choice mantra being My choice my body it should be interpreted that if a woman CHOOSES not to take responsibility for contraception, CHOOSES to then take the risk of unprotected s*x or c*ndom failure
Sunday, January 2nd 2011 at 12:26AM
DAVID JOHNSON

While "black-on-black crime" is having a devastating impact on our race throughout the diaspora, it's racial overtones have made it difficult to address or even discuss. But discuss we must. We must stop the racial hatred of ourselves. Race traitors sell drugs to other Black people, race traitors steal from other Blacks, race traitors hurt other Black people, race traitors make babies out of wedlock, race traitors don't listen to their elders, race traitors kill other Black people. We must stop being a traitor to one another. It's time to stop the madness.

You are either part of the solution ... or you are part of the problem...
Sunday, January 2nd 2011 at 1:02AM
DAVID JOHNSON

MORE NEW AT 11 !
Sunday, January 2nd 2011 at 1:38AM
DAVID JOHNSON

We must free the �African mind� through African Centered Educational activities so that we might better understand the importance of economic self-reliance.

One model that we draw strength from in pursuing economic and educational liberation is the model established by the Honorable Marcus Mosiah Garvey and the Universal Negro Improvement Association (UNIA) in the 1920s.

The more I read and study about Marcus Garvey, the more I am amazed at the great contributions he made to African people to become a self-reliant and self-sufficient people. At the core of Marcus Garvey's program was his urging of African people to acquire education and economic power. As he always started, �A race without power is a race without respect.�

Sunday, January 2nd 2011 at 2:18AM
DAVID JOHNSON

EVERYONE is so focused on paying back many men for the sins of their fathers. Not all mens stories are the same just like not all stories of single motherhood are to be automatically held as the result of an ill intended man taking advantage of a woman. One of my clients was falsely accused of DV and sentenced to time in jail until his exes own family recorded her admission that shed fabricated the stories. She should automatically have transferred her custodial rights and been charged herself but this didnt happen. His reputation was damaged badly but he continued to fight a losing fight for custody until he ultimately took his life. Another clients children greeted him with open arms upon his release from jail. He was a professional man and hed been accused by hischildrens mother of abusing their children. After ten years and his children now 17 and 18 his children spoke of their mother coaching them through the allegations towards their father. It was later discovered that their stepfather had perpetrated the abuses towards the children upon my clients release. Having lost so much he too chose to end his life after a long bout with depression. My last clients suicide came on the heels of him finding out that hed fathered a child by a woman that admits to having poked holes in his c*ndom to a judge. The judges response was, "while this is unfortunate, in the best interest of the child u must pay 8000 in arrears and 800 dollars a month in child support. Where is the justice in that? His story was never told. And yet Ive had several female colleagues tell me that these men were cowards for taking their lives or that the last gentleman shouldnt have had s*x with the woman. A consent to s*x is not a consent to fatherhood. It is a consent to s*x. And for those that would argue that it is a risk that a man knowingly takes, it is also a risk that a woman knowingly takes. But then again one can always go ahead and have an abortion. With this right comes great responsibility. If Tyler Perry would take the time to tell these three mens stories the world would better understand that the current conversation is much more complex than men needing to own the issue of irresponsible fatherhood. Everyone needs to take responsibility for this issue but we HAVE to be WILLING TO HAVE A REAL OPEN DISCUSSION where one belief or experience doesn?t dominate the discussion. Thanks again for this topic. I would love it if all radio/tv personalities across the country would collaborate and dedicate their shows for a day of real discussion about this as this issue has reached a height of urgency that demands our immediate attention. BUT it has to be a fair discussion that brings the best and brightest, and everyday people into the discussion on both sides of the issue. Behind the statistics are real stories.

Sunday, January 2nd 2011 at 2:19AM
DAVID JOHNSON

I am willing to test what I know.

Life's trials are progressive in nature. They get bigger to make us better. Just when you think you've got it all together, things you have never seen or heard of will present themselves in your life. They will push you, test you and challenge you to do more growing, more learning, more of what you have already done. Very often, when this happens, we are tempted to believe that we have done something wrong or that we missed something. Rarely do we understand that you cannot get too much of a good thing -- growing, learning, living are good things! They are good, even when we are forced to retest our skills and abilities over and over again.

Endurance reveals and strengthens character. It also builds faith. As your faith grows, it takes more than it used to to shake you up. It takes more than it did before to make you doubt yourself. It takes more pressure this time than it did last time or the time before that to make you consider giving up. Life always wants to be sure that you are sure! What about you? Don't you want to be sure that you can take it? Make it? Work it through until you can work it out? Of course you do! You want to know that you can depend on you when you need you. You want to know that you have the requisite amount of faith required to sustain you at all times, at any time. For this reason, it may seem that as you get better, the trials become greater. The truth is, the best students always get the hardest tests because they can handle them!

Until today, you may have thought that a retest in life was the result of a failure. Just for today, be a good student of life. Trust yourself! Rely on what you know! Do what you did before better this time! Be willing to take the progressive steps required to ensure the divine unfolding of your fully empowered Higher Self.

Today I am devoted to knowing that I keep getting
better and better as I pass through the testing
situations in my life!
Sunday, January 2nd 2011 at 2:40AM
DAVID JOHNSON

The United States remains the center of the world in the areas of technology and innovation. We produce 20 percent of the world's gross domestic product, run the planet's largest stock exchange and hold its biggest gold reserves. America has won more than 260 Nobel prizes and has long dominated in the field of science. Japan hasn't even cracked double digits in Nobel prizes awarded, and the only time Chinese nationals won the award is after staging a human-rights struggle against their own government.

In an age of science and technology, maybe that explains why 150 of the world's top companies are based in the United States. That's more than twice the number of our nearest competitor.

The U.S. dollar is still the world's currency, with the greenback accounting for 50 percent of the globe's cash reserves. The European Union's euro is second by a mile.

For all the whimpering about how investment is leaving America, more invest in the United States economy than in any other country. Our closest competitor doesn't get half the money for economic investment in its country as America does here at home.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1110/...

Sunday, January 2nd 2011 at 2:41AM
DAVID JOHNSON

IRMA I GOT NOTHING BUT LOVE FOR YOU AND WE CAN ALWAYS TALK AND HAVE GOOD DIALOGUE !
Sunday, January 2nd 2011 at 3:53PM
DAVID JOHNSON

Yeah, many black men have nothing to do with their children, and/or dislike their children, because they view the child and the mother, as a composite figure, a package if you will. Much of this is due to ignorance, selfishness and outright stupidity, whereas some of it is due to some in the culture who insist that the child belongs more so to the mother, than it does the father, seeing as how the mother carries the child for 9 months, etc.

I feel there are many ways to combat this, least of which, is to instruct black men from an early age, that they as men, and/or fathers, are just as important in the raising of their seed, as the mothers are, and that they aren't outsiders looking in, but are very much apart of the inner circle when it comes to family, despite what others may say, or would want to believe. This way, they won't feel like second class parents, and will feel as if they are indeed relevant. Black women who are single mothers of young black men ought to stress this as well, not just other black men, or black men and black women on missions to save the black family.

In addition, it would help if the mothers wouldn't demonize the fathers in front of the children. Don't get me wrong, there are certain men that may need to be demonized, for they are truly demonic, HOWEVER, it can go too far, especially if the man's a good father, and is a loving father. If your thing with the father JUST DIDN'T WORK OUT-then don't transfer that anger, and hurt over to the child, where it may affect that child's relationship with their father! I've seen women demonize okay guys that didn't work out for them, leaving you with the impression that the man was Satan himself, and that their evil would somehow spill over into them not being good parents to their children, whereas these same women will get with ne'er do well negroes, who have no prospects, and will probably never be there for the children they produce with these women-and will come to the aid and rescue of these men's reputations. You go figure.

Lastly, more black men need to be in the homes where their children are being raised, which overlaps into other areas of discussion concerning black male/female relationships (which is something I'm tired of addressing, to where I'm coming to the point of saying F*** IT!), but I will say that if the fathers aren't in the home, then they ought to be in the lives of their children, showing positive examples, and giving proper guidance. And on the same token, as a last alternative, those black men who aren't there ought to be severely shamed and ridiculed, , especially if there are no barriers blocking them from the seeds they produce. These types of men, really are the worst, and really don't deserve any love.

I can say more, but that's my short take...

Monday, January 3rd 2011 at 6:12PM
Siebra Muhammad

David, if the people in teh midddle-east are membbers of the human race and if the Bible says Thou shall not kill (murder) how many muslims do you beleive have been killed by Christians in teh name of God in teh past 9 years in Iraq...afganistain?????

are you saying that a female is responsiable for getting pregnant from being raped because she did not first take the male to the doctor to check if he had aides had not had his tubes tied so he could not make a fremale pregnant...or is it just God's will and she should not abort just bring in another uneanted child to end up on drugs...

now remember david if your children identify as Black they are the ones going to face this in their schools ever day as reasons why they are not wanted because they sure are not going to say oh they are alright because they are daivd's children...

HELL THEY DON'T EVEN LET A BLACK PRESIDENT BE ACCEPTED REMEMBER IT IS ALL ABOUT THE JUDGEMENTS BY SKIN COLOR AND HIS MOM AND DAD WERE MARRIED AND HIS MOM EVEN HAD HIM A STEP DAD...BUT SINE IT IS ABOUT SKIN COLOR AND TEH WAY YOU PUT IT THEN OUR PRESIDENT NEEDS NO RESPECT AS HE FITS THE SOCIL DISCRIPTION OF A LOOSER IN YOUR BOOK!!!!!!!!!!! LOL (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA

HEY DAVID YOU COULD EASOILY GET A JOB AS A NEWS PERSON ON FOX...I AM SERIOUS THEY WOULD BE MORE THAN GLAD TO PAY YOU AS YOU ARE YOUTH COMPARED TO JUAN WILLIAMS YOU ARE OF THIS GENERATION AND YOUR SON IF HE IS LIKE YOU CAN CARY IT ON TOWARDS THE NEXT TIME TO GO AGAINST TOSE YOUTHS OUT THERE FO ROBAMA...(SMILE)

NO NOT EMOTIONS OR AN ATACK JUST SAYING HOW FOX IS ALWAYS SAYING THINGS LIKE THIS BUT THE WHITE SKINS CAN NOT SAY THIS SO THEIS IS WHY THEY ARE HIRING SO MANY BLACKS NOW. 2012 IS ALREADY STARTED FOR VOTERS. (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA

..you know i am not into thsi black white only only the truth...you know that thing that can get one sent to hell...and thanks because you have given me ideas of posting these last blogs on BLACK HISTORY (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA

...David please don't forget a woman can give virgin birth today...I know the pope has come out against this does you church talk about these things...some women get raped not only by men they are not married to but to men they are married to...now please rememer one can get pregnant from this and men don't have to make decisions to have a female die because they gain too much weight, have blood pressure caused by pregancy or weight gain that can cause death...or does this count at all...

because here the dhild and the mother dies or one can live and the other can die...ever think about this...those preise did not just only have s*x with boy children but females also do you count this or is it always on teh woman...and all women don't get pregnant now do they so I guess we should go back to the days when a man got rid of his wife if she could not have children...again ever think about hese things david or is this better to go unknown so society can still allow>>>>>>>>>>> (nup)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA

DAVID, WHEN YOU LEARN THAT THE VERY THINGS YOU SAY RIGHT HERE IS WHAT IS GETTING OUR YOUTHS 17 YEARS IN PRISON FOR HAVING A FIGHT ON A SCHOOL YARD WITH A WHITE GROUP AND THEY DIDD NOT GET CHARGED...

DAVID WHAT YOU AE SAYING IS WHY IT MADE IT WORST FOR US HAVING MADE IT ILLEGAL FOR THEM TO WEAR THOSE WHITE HOODS...YOU SEE NOW THEY DONT MARCH AROUND IN HOODS THEY MARCH AROUND IN NATIZ UNIFORMS...DIDN'T WE FIGHT A WAR WITH THE NATIZS OH BUT THEN THE KKK IS NOT HARMFUL OR CAUSE TERRORISM NOW DO THEY ONLY PEOPLE WITH DARK SKIN ARE VIOLENT...YOU KEEP SAYING THIS DAVID NOT ME...NOW I REALLY MUST GO...HAVE YOU READ ANYOF MY POST TODAY...COME BY AND TALK TO ME DAVID. LOL (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA

..OH AND DAVID DID YOUHEAR ANYONE CALL MAGIC JOHNSON A CARRIER OF AIDES AS HE CAMPAIGNED FOR CLINTON ANDONE SAYING ANYTHING BAD ABOUT SARAH PALINS SINGLE MOTHER CHILD OUT THER ON TEH CAMPAIGN TRAIL...I WONDER WHY AS WE DOWN OUR OWN AND PRAIS THEM REMEMBER DANCING WITH THE STARS????????!!!!!!!!!! (NUP)!!!!!
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA

DAVID "I" ONLY DEAL IN FACTS: FACTS LIKE THE AIDES EPODEMIC SHOULD BE PLACED WERE IT BELONGS ON GREED AND PREJUDICES. EXAMPLE,

AS THE GAYS WER BEING BLAMED FOR AIDES THEY WER GIVING IT TO INNOCENT PEOPLE BY WAY OF BLOOD TRANFUSIONS TO NEW BORNS AS THE INFECTED DOCTOR TOUDHED THEM COMING OUT OF THE MOTHER'S BODY WHICH ENDED UP WITH NEW BORNS BEING WITH AIDES...THEN THEY GAVE THE PEOPLE WO MAKE MEDS THE RIGHTS TO CURE AIDES...

NOW DAVID IF IT IS GOING TO MAKE THEM MORE MONEY BY TREATING AIDES THEN WHY FIND A CURE...

RMEMBER ME SAYING THAT THE CDOCTOR WHO TREATS MAGIC JOHNSON HAS BEEN BARRED FROM PRACTICING IN AMERICA...THER ARE PEOPLE IN MEXICO THAT SCIENCE CAN NOT GIVE AIDES TO SO WHY DON'T THE PUBLIC KNOW ABOUT THESE SCIENTIFIC STUDYS???????

WHY DAVID WHEN THEY CAN CONTIUNE TO ABUSE US WITH US LEADING THE WAY...IS NOT YOU MOTHER A FEMALE YOU DAUGHTER YOU SON...ARE THEY ONLY BOUND FOR A LIFE OF DRUGS AND PRISON...WAKE UP DAVID, WAKE UP BECAUSE YOU ARE TALING ABOUT YOUR OWN CHILDREN WHEN YOU SAY BLACK ARE YOU NOT?????????????(NUp)!!!
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA

@DAVID, THE BLACK CHILD IS NO DIFFERENT BECAUSE OF THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN...THEY ARE NOT OUR PROPERTY BEAUSE THEY HAVE THEIR OWN BRAINS AND THEIR OWN POWERS TO DO RIGHT OR TO DO WRONG...NOW HOW ABOUT THOSE QUESTIONS ON s*x THAT IMENTIONED...HAVE YOU ONLYHAD s*x WITH YOUR WIFE AND SHE IS THE ONLY FEMALE THAT CAN GET YOU s*xUALLY EXCITED...AND HAVE YOU ONLY HAD s*x WITH YOUR WIFE THE NUMBERS OF TIME YOU HAVE CHILDDREN...

OR IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE??????????????...SPEAKING FOR ME IT MAKES ABOUT AS MUCH SENSE AS WE NOW ACCEPT THE BLAME FOR AIDES ONLY AFTER THE GAYS GOT UNIFED AND FOUGHT BACK ABOUT THEY WERE THE CAUSE OF THE AIDES EPEDIMIC...AFTER THIS THEY WENT TO AFRICA AND BLAMED AFRICANS FOR HAVING s*x WITH MONKEYS AND WHEN TAHT DID NOT WORK IT IS NOW ON TEH BLACK FEMALE!!!!!!!(NUP)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA

...ANY MARRIED BLACK FATHERS KILLED BY CANCER, THE POLICE AND HAS NEVER BROKEN ANY LAWS...PLEASE DON'T GET ME STARTED ON THE COUNTLESS THINGS THAT ARE TAUGHT TO US TO MAKE US UNWORTHY TO BE TREATED AS MAMBERS OF TEH HUMAN RACE BECAUSE OF OUR SKIN COLOR!!!!!!!!!!!!! I WILL SHUT UP NAD IF YOU WANT TO DELETE ME DAIVD THEN IT IS YOUR POST. (SMILE)

I HAVE MADE A BLOG ON "INDIVIDUALITY" TO COVER ALL OF THIS ANY WAY...(SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA

dAVID i WANT TO TALK WITH YOU R BY EMAIL. IS IT OK?(SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA

OH AND EVEN DR. M.L. KING WENT TO JAIL...MY TWO DAUGHTERS AHVE NEVER BEEN STOPPED BY THE POLICE BUT THE BUSH DAUGHTERS HAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ANY BLACK MARRIED MEN/ FATHERS DIED IN THESE 9 YEARS OF WAR OR ARE ALL OF THE BLACK FATHERS IN JAIL??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA

...we can always start withour own selves. like practice what we preach....

if marriage is to have children...then only have s*x when you want children...forget that a female can onlyhave children with in 72 hours i each month(thus teh period that flushes out the egg)...men should ot have ses whith or without a wife and they can only get married one and can only get sezually exicted by onlyone woman their wife!!!!!!!!!!!

or we can just give up trying to put social religious rules and regulations on s*x and accept it has something to do with if we son't have birth then the human race will die out...

NOW LERTS FACE REALITY AND SAY WE HAVE NEVER HAD s*x WITH ANYONE BUT THE PERSON WE ARE MARRIED TO...WE HAVE NOT BEEN DIVORCED...NO BLACK FATHERS HAVE EVEN DIED...DID NOT DIE IF THEYHAD NO FOOD / WATER, ECT. OR EVEN HAVE EVER BEEN WITHOUT A JOB...AND WOULD RATHER STARVE TO DEATH THAN STEAL A LOAF OF BREAD TO STAY ALIVE....

GET OVER OURSELVES ON POINTING THE FINGER AT ALL BUT OUR OWNSELVES!!!!!!!!!!(SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA