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"Then the Lord your God will restore your fortunes and have compassion on you, gathering you again from all the peoples among whom the Lord your God has scattered you. Even if you are exiled to the ends of the world. from there the Lord your god will gather you, and from there he will bring you back. The Lord your God will bring you into the land that your ancestors possessed, and you will possess it, he will make you more prosperous and numerous than your ancestors." Again, the Bible speaks of my work taken place today. The gathering together is now so why we formed Nation Building Group.
Posted By: jamal Abraham
Saturday, March 19th 2011 at 12:42AM
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Divine planning that can be backed up by holy scripture becomes a powerful motivating force in itself.
Saturday, March 19th 2011 at 10:59AM
jamal Abraham
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is that King James Version,
why would a negro quote the bibble, unless HE WAS ONE...........
Saturday, March 19th 2011 at 12:21PM
powell robert
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Hello Jamal,
Robert has presented a very good question. Robert asked why a Negro would quote the Bible when it is clear that the Bible is not the religious book of the Negro slaves.
Anyway, my point is that the scriptures of Deuteronomy that you quoted is not Black Americans since Black Americans were never in exile. In addition, Black Americans were never scattered throughout the world. Black Americans are concentrated right here in White America, am I right. Furthermore, when did the Lord ever come to us and said the things in Deuteronomy?
Jamal the Bible is making you dumber and dumber. The Bible and the Quran has made Mr. Elijah Muhammad somewhat dumb and Mr. Farrakhan is right up there as well. The Bible belongs to the Jewish people. The Jewish people wrote the Bible and the Bible is about them. Do you not have enough common sense to see that the Bible is about the Jewish people? Why would the Jewish people write about Black Americans in their Bible? Likewise, when we write our religious book why should we write about the Chinese people? Jamal every religious book such as the Quran and Bible are about the people that wrote the book themselves. Black Americans have not written our religious book yet and that is why I often times say that our religious book is forthcoming. Have I made any sense with you?
Tell me what you think.
Saturday, March 19th 2011 at 1:13PM
Harry Watley
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Wow...how do you respond to robert and harry both way off track.
First of all, the gospel was written for the American slaves but was intercepted by Jews that added and taken away words. Yet, the book can be used when properly interpreted as a useful divine tool for information. The Messenger Elijah Muhammad used the Bible almost exclusively because he said it is the Bible that has African Americans buried so it will take the understanding of the Bible to unbury us.
When the European traders kidnapped our ancestors from Africa and brought us to America, 6000 miles away it was in effect putting us in exile. We were exiled from our parents, our ancestors and our people. And it remained that way for 400 years.
Saturday, March 19th 2011 at 1:38PM
jamal Abraham
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yea, wow
and Our Father Elijah Muhammad was correct in saying that the bibble, a paganChristian european slaverAmericana book was the grave of the africanStolen from Africa
You do need to learn what Our Father Elijah said from HIS FAMILY, LOCO---and you do need to learn AlIslaam, AlQur'aan and the Sunnah of Mohamed(as) as he told His Family and Followers to.............
do not put me in the same sentence as your idiot paganChristian brother Harry. youNegros are colorWorshippers, not I.............
I believe as Our Father believed at His Death in AlQur'aan and the Sunnah of Mohamed(as)
Saturday, March 19th 2011 at 6:06PM
powell robert
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poor robert...a dumb old fool....how miserable you must be. Gadhafi is no good and he better get the hell out of Libya.
Saturday, March 19th 2011 at 6:22PM
jamal Abraham
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I wonder what hole in the desert Gadhafi is hiding in.....Hell has started for the Libyan leader.
Saturday, March 19th 2011 at 11:28PM
jamal Abraham
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Hello Robert,
Robert Black America's religion (LIFE) is monotheistic. I believe that there is only but one God that created all that I see, all that I do not see. So that makes my religion monotheistic and God gave me this religion to give to Black Americans as God did give Mohammed their religion Islam to give to the Arabian people.
So, where am I out of order? I do not need from Prophet Mohammed and the Arabian people what God gave to them. What I want and need is what God gave to me and Black Americans. Prophet Mohammed and the Arabian people are not greater than I and Black Americans are, so why should I and Black Americans have to bow down to Prophet Mohammed, the Arabian people and their religion Islam?
You know that Gabriel delivered Allah message to Mohammed in Arabic and that is because Prophet Mohammed spoke the Arabic language. Black Americans and I do not speak the Arabic language. This tells me that the message Prophet Mohammed received was specifically for the Arabian people since it was in their Arabic language.
The inspirations/revelations that I am receiving from God are in English and that is because I speak the English language. So, how can you not realize that all prophets have spiritual jurisdiction only over their own people since the message that God gave prophets are only for their own kinds, am I right.
It is still the rule today that Believers of Monotheistic Thought also believe that there are many prophets from the Creation of the First Man, Adaam(as) to and beyond Mohamed(as) because the Creator still anoints prophets since every people are racially different their problems are also different.
The belief that Prophet Mohammed is The Seal of Prophethood is what the Arabian people say and think for themselves. Since I am not an Arabian I have no rational reason to believe that God would not raise up a prophet from among Black Americans. Am I making any sense with you?
You have denied who you are for so long so you can be Arabian that you believe the whole world of different people are Arabians as well. You are psychologically damaged. You need extensive psychiatric therapy since you do not see how different people are that the Creator created that you think we all must follow Mohammed and the Arabian people religion and ways.
No, Robert. The Arabian people will follow Prophet Mohammed and Islam. Black Americans will follow prophet Harry and LIFE, which is Black America's religion. Arabian people are not better people than Black Americans are that Black Americans should follow Prophet Mohammed and the Arabian religion of Islam.
Tell me what you think.
Sunday, March 20th 2011 at 2:50AM
Harry Watley
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Hello Jamal,
Since you believe that the Gospel was written for Black Americans but was intercepted by the Jews then tell me who are the mysterious people that wrote the Gospel since you believe that the Jewish people did not write the Bible?
In other words, who are the mysterious people that would write about Black Americans in the Bible? The Bible is the testimony of the Jewish people to the world of how God helped them in their times of trouble with other people when they could not help themselves. Likewise, the Quran is the testimonies of the Arabian people to the world how God help them when they could not help themselves out of paganism. Black Americans are neither written about in the Bible nor the Quran. We will be written about in our own book when the time comes that we will develop our own book.
The incident of David slaying Goliath is the Jewish people's testimony how God help them. Were not Goliath of the Philistine people and David Jewish?
Likewise, the incident of Moses leading the children of Israel out of bondage in slavery in Egypt is the testimonies of the Jewish people to the world how God help them when they could not help themselves. Am I making any sense?
When the time comes that we will develop our own religious book as the Jewish people develop the Bible our book will be about how God helped us when we could not help ourselves out of our dehumanizing plight for over 500 years in White America and how we inherited a fertile portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders.
Your saying that the Jews intercepted a prophecy about Black Americans is fabricated. You just do not realized that two incidents that are almost identical happened in the history of mankind which are the Hebrew people's enslavement in Egypt and the enslavement of Black Americans in this country that you believe there is only one incident of enslavement. You see it that way because Elijah and Mr. Farrakhan misled you since they have been misled by Mr. Fard Muhammad. A domino type effect.
The story of Moses leading the children of Israel out of Egypt is true and this is why. Moses instituted the Passover. 2000 years later Jesus celebrated the Passover in Jerusalem. Today the Jewish people in the state of Israel celebrate the Passover. The point that I am trying to make is that the celebrating of the Passover today by the Jewish people in the state of Israel is the same as when Moses instituted it almost 4000 years ago. The reason that the present day Jews celebrates the Passover the same way as their ancestors did from the time of Moses is because the tradition had been passed down from one generation to the next generation to the present day generation in the state of Israel. Where else or how else would the present day Jews know how to celebrate the Passover the same as when Moses instituted it if the present day Jews were not the real children of Israel.
The Passover is the key that proves the story of Moses is true and the children of Israel are the people in the state of Israel today.
Again, Elijah and Mr. Farrakhan have an intentionally misled our people.
I am the way, the truth and the light. Besides me there is no other way that Black Americans could ever become a real people in this world.
Black Americans whenever in exile since we never existed in Africa. There are no records of Black Americans being in Africa. The records of Black Americans exists in this country because Black Americans came into existence in this country when White Americans repeatedly bred themselves with the African slaves they purchase from the slave traders over a period of 300 years that turned out to be a people such as us Black Americans, am I right.
Tell me what you think.
Sunday, March 20th 2011 at 3:35AM
Harry Watley
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Harry, this blog is not about your hogwash religion supported by you and no one else. Your supposition claims are wrong. It is about "Even if you are exiled to the ends of the world. from there the Lord your god will gather you, and from there he will bring you back"......this is the day of the gathering together of God's chosen which are the black man and woman of America.
Sunday, March 20th 2011 at 8:13AM
jamal Abraham
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Have not heart anything from Robert that makes any sense so had to delete.....Try to stick to the blog robert because your bull**** is stinking up my blog.
Sunday, March 20th 2011 at 10:28AM
jamal Abraham
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To Robert, no one here is obligated to listen to you and we are free to delete whatever we want. Don't like our posts, don't comment on them...simple as that. Perhaps if you learned how to be more intelligent and civilized in your conversations, there would be no need for deleting.
Sunday, March 20th 2011 at 3:30PM
Siebra Muhammad
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@Saint....descendants of Ishmael are descendants of Abraham his father. And we, here in America are the seed of Abraham via Ishmael. Ishmael was Abraham's first born and his offspring are now due the type of greatness prophecied in all holy books.
Sunday, March 20th 2011 at 3:55PM
jamal Abraham
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guess I know why saint just stopped my posts on his blogs---
---No to all the financed by set up by the paganChristians and the INSULT to our Mother Khadeeja(ra)
but I understand saint, siebraJamal are INSULTS also to AlIslaam---
this yahudi thing you have is like your picture----
all you are paganChristians----
Sunday, March 20th 2011 at 8:26PM
powell robert
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Saint....you stated "Even the Honorable Elijah Muhammad stated that we so-called black americans are Israel". This is absolutely untrue. Please point out the book where this is stated in Message to the Blackman, the Fall of America, Our Savior Has Arrived or Muhammad Speaks Newspaper. You will find that it is stated no where.
The title of the blog is the subject. Lets read AGAIN..what the quotation says: The Lord your God will bring you into the land that your ancestors possessed, and you will possess it, he will make you more prosperous and numerous than your ancestors. ..Dah.
Sunday, March 20th 2011 at 9:15PM
jamal Abraham
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@Saint...then say that Minister Farrakhan said it.....because I assure you that Messenger Elijah Muhammad NEVER said it....and I have offered differant writings of Messenger Elijah Muhammad to PROVE it.....why....because I know that in NONE of the Messenger's teachings did he ever state such a thing.
Sunday, March 20th 2011 at 9:54PM
jamal Abraham
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Hello Jamal,
Jamal, Black Americans has no scriptures that says The Lord your God will bring you into the land that your ancestors possessed, and you will possess it, he will make you more prosperous and numerous than your ancestors. ..Dah.
However, I leave the door open that if Black Americans do have a scripture that says the Lord your God will bring you into the land that your ancestors possessed then would you point it out. I believe that what you are reading is what the Jewish people said that God said to them and not to Black Americans, am I correct.
Black Americans are a race of people that is only 500 years old while the scripture that you are quoting is thousands of years old. Who would be so interested thousands of years ago to write about a new race of people as Black Americans are in the Bible which is the testimonies of the Jewish people to the world?
You are still being a slave relied and born and planting your self in the existence of other people. Why it is that you do not want your own existence?
What say you?
Tuesday, March 22nd 2011 at 11:49AM
Harry Watley
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Harry, please take your crazy medicine for your mind is going whacky. Again, the bible says "The Lord your God will bring you into the land that your ancestors possessed, and you will possess it, he will make you more prosperous and numerous than your ancestors." This is referring to the Children of America Slaves and the place of our ancestors is speaking of Africa. So need to be a brain surgeon to figure this one.
Friday, March 25th 2011 at 12:54PM
jamal Abraham
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Hello Jamal,
Jamal Black Americans is not written about in the Bible even by other names we have used such as Negroes, Color People, African-American and Black Americans. If we were in the Bible one of these labels would have been mentioned. The Canaanites, the Babylonians, the Persians and the Egyptians are mentioned. Therefore, if we had anything any contact with the Jewish people we would have been mentioned as the Babylonians were mentioned, am I right.
These different races are mentioned because the Hebrew/Jewish people had something to do with them. As I said, if Black Americans had anything to do with the Hebrews, children of Israel or Jewish people Black Americans would have been mentioned as well. Does that make sense to you?
There are a few very good reasons why Black Americans are not mentioned in the Bible. Firstly, the Bible belongs to the Jewish people. The Jewish people wrote the Bible. The Bible talks about the Jewish people and how God help them in their times of trouble with other people. Secondly, Black Americans were not in existence when the Bible was developed and finished, am I right.
What I am telling you are facts. I am not trying to persuade or mislead you. Everything I say you can see it with your physical eyes and take your time to allow your mental eye to absorb the things I say. Your mental eye is not going to see at first the things I say. At first it will be your physical eyes that will see and then your mental eye will catch up try into understand what your physical eyes see. It is not your physical eyes that slavery damaged is your mental eye that is damaged.
I will say again to you that this verse, "The Lord your God will bring you into the land that you ancestors possessed,…" is directed specifically to the real children of Israel in the time of Moses. The descendents of the children of Israel are the people that reside in the state of Israel today.
Just as the Jewish people developed their religious book, the Bible, Black Americans will develop our own religious book as well. Did not the Arabian people develop their own religious book, the Quran? So, am I telling you anything wrong?
Jamal Elijah Muhammad had no business in the Bible or the Quran since Black Americans are not written about in either book. Jamal, I am the way, and besides me, there is no other way that Black Americans could ever become a real people in this world.
Furthermore Jamal, Black Americans did not come from Africa. Black Americans came into existence on this continent because of plantation slavery. There are no records or any artifacts in Africa that we show Black Americans once lived in Africa. Black Americans is a combination of Caucasian and African people which makes Black Americans a new race of people. Black Americans are not Caucasians or Africans. We are a new race of people.
What say you?
Friday, March 25th 2011 at 4:46PM
Harry Watley
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transliteration, translation and meaning of translated Languages,
please refer to Steves" --- Philosophy of Language Blog----The most Scholastic Blog seen on BIA............
Friday, March 25th 2011 at 6:15PM
powell robert
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Since slavery, the bible was introduced to the American slave as a way to bond us to serving our slavemaster. The attempt was to make something supposedly good for us....to make it unknowingly bad for us. The fact the Bible was meant for us has never been a question till Harry comes along. We can read the Bible and see ourselves and others and the consequences of good or bad deeds. In addition, the Bible when properly understood can help poise us for being on the side of the victor in the last days of Judgement.
Friday, March 25th 2011 at 8:08PM
jamal Abraham
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Hello Jamal,
The Bible was specifically introduced to us, Black Americans as a means of damaging our mental eyes and not our physical eyes. The slave master knew our physical eyes were essential to our duties such as picking cotton, but our mental eye the slave master knew we did not need it and it was destroyed.
Any religion that Black Americans accept such as Islam, Christianity Buddhism etc. not given to us by our anointed prophet will surely psychological damage our minds.
For example, the percentage of Black Americans that have embraced the religion of Islam; but, are clearly not Arabian people their minds are psychologically damage since they practice and walk in the shadow of the Arabian people's ways, customs and rituals such as Ramadan. Is that not proof enough that these so called Black Americans wannabe Muslim Arabian people are psychologically and therapeutically mentally damaged? All Blacks claiming to be Muslims and their religion Islam are psychologically and therapeutically mentally damaged.
Mr. Elijah Muhammad died psychologically and therapeutically mentally damaged since he believed that his salvation was rooted in the Arabian people and their Prophet Mohammed that Elijah embraced their religion of Islam when he was not an Arab man. Is that not enough to declare Mr. Elijah Muhammad ignorant? Is that not enough to declare you, Jamal ignorant as well? You must put down Islam and embrace your religion LIFE. Am I making any sense what you?
Dr. King died psychologically and therapeutically mentally damage. Dr. King believed his salvation was rooted in Jewish Jesus who came specifically to the house of Israel and not Black Americans. Dr. King was a Black American born out of the ashes of plantation slavery in this country. Jesus and Dr. King are miles apart.
The prophet that God ordain for us must be a Black American as we are, am I right.
Black America's religion is LIFE. It is through our own religion we shall have our salvation. Was it not through Judaism that the children of Israel found salvation and the Promise Land rather then in the religion and beliefs of Pharaoh and the Egyptian people?
The Bible and Quran had Mr. Elijah dumbfounded. Am I making any sense? You must get out the Bible and the Quran and cling on to what is divinely yours. Your religion is LIFE and your prophet is Harry.
I have brought us our religion given to me by God as Prophet Mohammed brought Islam to the Arabian people given to him by God as well. Where do you see me wrong? I have brought you prophecy that within my lifetime Black Americans are going to inherit a fertile portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to worship God, pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way. Where do you see me wrong?
Tell me what you think.
Saturday, March 26th 2011 at 1:22PM
Harry Watley
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jamal, slaves were NOT introduced to the bibble-----Historical---no slave was allowed to READ.
so your argument is like all of your thought UNTRUE
the 1865 freeSlave chose paganChristianity as given them by 1492-1864 paganChristian BONDAGE, Pedophilia, torture, murder, etc..............
stop blaming europeans for the condition of the freeSlave..............that is unture------ or just take that crazy harryProphet of paganChristianity as your saviour over your colorWorship.........
Monday, March 28th 2011 at 11:53AM
powell robert
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