Jacob was a CHEAT according to Bible and Quran: HE became known as ISRAEL

we KNOW you are good at the KingJames Version of the bibble, but your title says AlQur'aan

----Show it?

@Saint............Jacob was as seed of Abraham. The deception was known by Isaac his own father. Imagine when ones father considers his own son as deceitful. In his old age and barely able to see, Isaac knew Jacob was no damn good. His wife cohorted the deceitful plan to win Isaac blessing to Jacob. Almighty God let it go...so as to prove the eventual triumph of truth and goodness. Jacob, later referred to as Israel was given every chance to do right but the children of Israel proved to be crooked and a bunch of liars just as their father, Jacob. This makes Jacob a major player in the Bible and Quran in the battle between good and evil.

In the teachings of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad, he referred to Jacob as Yacub or the father of the devil. so the children of Israel are the devil and his children.

@robert......muslims respect not only the Holy Quran...but other holy scriptures including the Torah and Bible......what...do you only acknowledge the Holy Quran. If that was the case, you would have to discount Moses and Jesus. That would be dumb.

Hello Jamal,

Our only concerned with the Bible as Black Americans we should have is with the book of Exodus when God anointed Moses to when the children of Israel entered the Promised Land. I say this because I am Black America’s first genuine prophet and you know that it makes all the sense in the world. The book of the Exodus is very similar to Black America's plight in White America. This tells you a lot of things. For instance, it tells you that since a similar situation like ours has happened before and God intervened for the children of Israel God had intervened on behalf of Black Americans as well. I am proof of God intervention to Black Americans. It further tells you that Black Americans will have a genuine prophet from our own loins. Therefore, if any of you Black Americans that clings to a prophet who is not of your own kinds then you are wrong to have that prophet. Prophet Mohammed and Jesus is not Black Americans' prophet since Prophet Mohammed and Jesus were not Black Americans. What I just said should not be too difficult to understand!

Nothing else of the Bible and the Quran has anything to do with Black Americans. Black Americans should not be getting spiritual guidance from the Bible or the Quran since these religious books are not our books. The Bible and Quran do not speak of Black Americans, am I right. The Bible belongs to the Jews and European gentiles while the Quran belongs to the Arabian people, am I right.

Black Americans do not have anything to do with Jacob, Rebecca, Isaac and Esau. What happened with them was a Hebrew thing and is not to be mashed into Black Americans.

Black Americans are not written about in the Bible or the Quran. The Bible is the Jewish people's testimony to the world of their relationship with God and other people. The Quran is the Arabian people's testimony to the world how God brought them out of paganism by first anointed Prophet Mohammed who led them out of paganism and into Islam.

Therefore Jamal, get out of the Bible and the Quran because it is the responsibility of Black Americans to develop our own religious book while moving forward towards our sovereignty on a fertile portion of this continent especially since God has anointed a prophet for us as was done with the Arabians and the children of Israel. Am I making any sense to you?

Everything that I say is going to happen.

What say you?

@Saint...If you want to "know" what the muslims BELIEVE or what the muslims want....they have been listed on the back of the Muhammad Speaks paper for about 45 years when the Messenger was living. They are now listed on the back of the final call. At know time in Messenger Elijah Muhammad written or oral words have he ever said that we were the children of Israel. NEVER.....NADA....NO TIME.....NEVER HAPPENED.....

My work is not the CHANGE anything that was not already prophesized by former prophets. God gave Jacob's or Yacub's time to rule and the have become dominant all over the world. Now, is the beginning of the seventh day of the Lord. The yoke is breaking......Israel the country is loosing her grip and protection from U.S. who is stretched out now in 3 war-fronts. As for the black Hebrew Israelites.....they are homeless....no home in America...and no home in Israel....a case of wishing of magic.

@Harry....I'm afraid all the prophets written to come have come. You're late...and your information is lame. It has no merit. Sure we are similar to Moses, but there are differances......Most of the people knew who they were. During the time of Egypt....the slaves knew their heritage. In this day....Most African Americans do not know who they are...and further...they have all these rediculous religions. Each religion has their own fantasy about redemption and salvation which gets in the way of their success. This is why in this day,less will be taken....more will be destroyed. Most would rather believe in fantasy and sugar coated bull**** then the simple truth of exodus from A to B.

Muslims Read and Learn the Original Language of AlQur'aan---

To be a Muslim ONe MUST believe in the Original Scriptures of THE Creator of Adaam(as)

The Muslim also must use the Sunnah of Mohamed(as) to understand AlQur'aan and ALL Words of Allaah

---and yes there is an Original Language AttAURAT, AlIngeel, AzZaboor---so we study all of them, AGAIN, in their Original Language.

I know that the translated versions of the Scripture in European Languages are not Correct and I would Not ever read the kingJames slaverAMericana Version of scripture.

How Juvenile in your Understanding; can you be?

Learn Something, man, you over 40 years old.

Hello Jamal,

You said that all the prophets written of have come and that I am late. Did God tell you that all the prophets have come or did you get this notion from the Arabian people?

Mr. Farrakhan believes the same thing and I am wondering if God told him this since God is the only entity that is responsible for rising up prophets.

Secondly, you are right that most Black Americans do not know who they are including yourself. You believe that you are an African-American when I have explained to you what an African American is versus what a Black American is and still you have not connected the dots. An African-American and a Black American are entirely two different people. A Black American is as different from an African-American as a tomato plant is from a broccoli plant. Can you not tell the difference between an African and a Black American? Can you not tell the difference between a Chinese and Japanese? Can you not tell the difference between a zebra and a horse? Can you not tell the difference between a tomato and a broccoli plant? So then can you not tell the difference between an African-American and a Black American? African Americans did not suffer the tragedies of slavery. African Americans had never picked cotton. It was Black Americans that picked cotton. Black Americans are a new race of people born out of the ashes of plantation slavery. Again, Black Americans are not African Americans. There is a community of African Americans from Nigeria living in Houston Texas. If you compare them to Black Americans you should notice a remarkable difference.


If you were truly who you say you are then you would know that Black Americans are not African Americans. All prophets know who their people are. How could Moses have led the children of Israel if he did not know exactly who his people are and their origin? If Moses did not know precisely who the children of Israel were then he could have mistaken the Egyptians, the Canaanites and the Hittite for the children of Israel and that would have been dumb of God and Moses if that had happened, am I right.

Likewise, how could I lead Black Americans into sovereignty on a fertile portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders if I do not know who Black Americans are an our origin to prove that I know who Black Americans are. Jamal you are a poor scientists, mentally speaking.

Lastly, do you not think that Robert has a very good point that you do not understand the Scriptures of Quran since you do not speak Arabic and Robert it do which puts Robert in the position to correct you?

What say you?

Harry, you and robert worry about bull****.....first we were called ni_rs, then negroes, then colored, spooks, African American and Black. You know who we are speaking of.....us.....the children of American slaves. Why you waste so much time worrying about the bull****. That is why blacks cannot deal with real issues when you have to argue whether we are African American or Black....how foolish. When you apply for a job.....what do you check......one block says Black or African American or African descent.....so the white man can figure it out....why can't Harry or Robert figure it out.