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By Chika Oduah
12:17 PM on 11/30/2011
The GRIO

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Authors of the newly released The Truth About Being Single, Lakeisha Rivers Ekeigwe and Neva Lockhart say that black women are being told to lower their standards if they want to marry an African-American man.

"The plight of the black man has been put on the shoulders of the black woman," Ekeigwe told theGrio.

"Black women are told to look for a black brother and pull him up because he may not be in your socioeconomic bracket or have the same education."

Lockhart said, this was certainly the case, as she observed growing up in the '70s when black women were pressured to marry their "baby daddies."

"A lot of black women settled that way," she said.

Nonetheless, the authors agree that the unmarried black woman is no different from the unmarried white woman. They assert that the "pain, loneliness and fear" of unmarried women around the world are the same.

TheGrio: 'Is Marriage for White People?' author: Black men have failed

That's why the authors wrote the book- to tell unmarried women around the world that it is perfectly OK to want to be married. After interviewing about 300 women and following reports in the media, the authors were convinced that society is forcing women to feel that marriage is no big deal and that unmarried women should accept their pre-destined fate of single-hood.

Lockhart, a businesswoman, counselor and therapist, is still waiting for marriage. She says she is a true believer in love and women, including black women, should never settle.

"If I get married at 70, I'm gonna walk down the aisle at 70."


As African-American women over the age of 45, Lockhart and Ekeigwe know all too well that unmarried black women have been singled out by the media. They say the image of the African-American woman who is proud of being unmarried and facing difficulty with finding a life partner perpetuates an unfair racial stereotype that is far from reality.

"The truth is we [black people] didn't invent Match.com and Eharmony.com!" Ekeigwe said.

theGrio: Let's leave black single women alone

Furthermore, the book confronts "lies" from experts and scholars telling women that their innate desire to be married is wrong and stems from low self-esteem. For years, the likes of comedian and The View co-host, Joy Behar and feminist icon, Gloria Steinem, shared their views that marriage is not so important. The feminist slogan, popularized by Steinem, that says "a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle," embodies the idea of women independence.

But, surprise was no stranger when the public learned that Behar had married her boyfriend of 29 years this year and Steinem, who once dissed marriage as an institution that destroys relationships, finally married at age 66 in 2000.

"We are biologically wired to not be single. That's why being single doesn't feel good," Ekeigwe said.

"Throughout life, women are preparing to menstruate, menstruating or recovering from menstruating and menstruating enables you to mate and produce a child and you need a male to do that."

And while the book represents unmarried women of various backgrounds in their 40s and beyond, Lockhart and Ekeigwe say they hold a particular place in their hearts for African-American women.



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...As African-American women over the age of 45, Lockhart and Ekeigwe know all too well that unmarried black women have been singled out by the media. ...Lockhart, a businesswoman, counselor and therapist, is still waiting for marriage."If I get married at 70, I'm gonna walk down the aisle at 70." ... The truth is we [black people] didn't invent Match.com and Eharmony.com!" Ekeigwe said. ...


What?! Now I'd say that notion is a bunch of nonsense. ... getting married at 70 ... PUHLEEZE. Black people might not have invented Eharmony or Match.com but surely Lockhart needs it QUICK, FAST, and in a HURRY before she DRIES UP! Lawd help that woman please. Amen!



Wednesday, November 30th 2011 at 2:46PM
Jen Fad
Ole Gurl is going to dry up waiting... She'll be more like a prune by that time.
Wednesday, November 30th 2011 at 6:33PM
Jen Fad
I think Ms. Lockhart has a point, after all, it's her life and she is free to live it as she damn well pleases. It's not about being an OLD MAID, but having some standards...


Thursday, December 1st 2011 at 1:22PM
Siebra Muhammad
RIGHT ON!!!
Thursday, December 1st 2011 at 6:21PM
Siebra Muhammad
Sister Siebra,

I can understand why you agree with Lockhart because you are following closely in her footstep... to be a dried up prune.

Getting a man before one is 70 years of age is not having standards but just plain Stupidity. Afterall, it's not difficult to find a good man if you think about it. There are many good men in the world.

Peace out...


Thursday, December 1st 2011 at 9:34PM
Jen Fad
Saint,

I'm glad Janelle decided to hook up with you with all her standards before she was 70yrs old. Heck if you can't get a man at 29 or 30 what makes a person think her chances are better at 70? That's foolishness!


Thursday, December 1st 2011 at 9:36PM
Jen Fad
Sister Jen,

With all due respect, I am not following in Ms. Lockhart's footsteps at all...unlike a lot of other people Ms. Lockhart and I am not the type of person to rush into marriage and/or get with society's theory that I should be married.

I know how to play Lady Seduction when I want to, however I tend to take things slow and get to really know a person before making a decision to settle down with them. That in itself is not stupidity at all dear sister...it's using plain COMMON SENSE!!!
Friday, December 2nd 2011 at 12:36PM
Siebra Muhammad
So Jen you say Siebra is on her way to being a dried up prune...smh. I don't get the impressions that Siebra is following in her footsteps of Ms. lockhart at all. But we could expect these words from someone like you who uses BIA as her personal brothel right???
Friday, December 2nd 2011 at 12:56PM
Kemetria 'Kim' Smith
@ Kim aka Siebra...

Listen ... I'm married. My stuff is not dried up ok. People need to use their sense when it comes to dating and holding down a man. It's not that complicated and it doesn't have to be a brotha.


Saturday, December 3rd 2011 at 11:29AM
Jen Fad
Furthermore...Is the NOI against Nation women dating/marrying Muslims from parts of Africa or the so called 'the mother land' like NIgeria, Ghana, or Egypt? What about Libya especially since the late Muamar was such a beloved brother? Certainly anyone from Libya should qualify. What about Syria or Jordan? A Muslim is a Muslim in my book. They all believe in Allah. For me... the God one serves has to be the qualifying factor not that he's Black.

I'm sorry... but I have to disagree with having so called standards that aren't really that but stupid rhetoric. I think I mentioned somewhere before on a few blogs how my old church down South... was trying to "brainwash" me being that I was a single, independent, upwardly mobile young woman with no husband or dependents... so that they could keep me in their fold to further the churches agenda. When I got a Christian man who wanted to marry me... he (pastor) told my suitor (now husband ) in private that I was stubborn and selfwilled. My husband told me this sometime after we were married.

I'm sure the Nation women aren't any different from the Christian Single women in the church... they finance the leaders agenda... that's why they can afford to drive around in fancy CARS/SUVS and ride first class on airplanes or have their own jets... I used my common sense... I got the heck up out of that Organization they called a church and those same women who are now dried up prunes... are still their financing the pastor's agenda.

He's on television now. ... Now his wife is driving a Mercedes... Every year for pastor's appreciation they give him money. I wonder if he declares that money to the IRS? Probably not. Anyway... Kim EAT Ya... aka Siebra it makes me NO difference at all your status. We all have what works for us. You don't even have to get married. You can join the ranks of many Black women and SHACK. It's all good in the hood.


Saturday, December 3rd 2011 at 11:41AM
Jen Fad

again, inspiration jenFad, "A Muslim is a Muslim in my book. They all believe in Allah. For me... the God one serves has to be the qualifying factor not that he's Black."

but

come on jenFad, dont go after Muslims---siebra is a cultist not a believer

Muslims--WE DO LIKE MARRIAGE with women, and Love to have children, and we love all women from china to chicago that believe themselves of the Family of Adaam(as) and followers of AlQur'aan and Sunnah(as)

the colorWorshipping siebra, may be a female or not?

my conclusions after reading a years worth of BIA stuff in 'herInternet' name, is that NO one 'working at a school'; can Blog, Nonesense, on a Social Site during 8-5pm EVERY day?

and since triflingSiebra seems to like to cybil herself into different personalities, aka kimmy, and Harry never comes out til dark----she/he/it might be all the same person and that is why she/he/it is not married............nothing to do with AlIslaam, she/he/it is not a Believer ANYWAY.




Saturday, December 3rd 2011 at 1:20PM
powell robert
@ Brother Rob,

...come on jenFad, dont go after Muslims---siebra is a cultist not a believer...Muslims--WE DO LIKE MARRIAGE with women, and Love to have children...

And right you are~ I have a colleague from Jordon that has had his fourth child. His wife is a stay at home mom. Jamal talks highly of his wife and children. He like to show us all pictures of the latest baby and video of the funny things the little one is getting into as he's growing.



Saturday, December 3rd 2011 at 4:39PM
Jen Fad
Sister Jen,

I see you have made the assumption that Sister Kim and I are one and the same. We are not. Kim and I are 2 different people. I tried to be nice and respectful with you but you have resorted to acting delusional and trying to make me feel ashamed for being a single, never married woman. And I see you have brought your sidekick Robert to the blog. I'm a free woman...just like you Jen are a free woman (as you say). My domestic life is my own personal business. And if and when I do get married, it will be on Allah's time, not your or Robert's time.

The problem with you Jen, is that you and Robert (especially Robert) waste too much damn time digging into people's private affairs instead of focusing on the REAL purpose of this site...EDUCATING THROUGH UNDERSTANDING.

And quiet as kept, one thing I notice with the majority of married people who try to make people like ME feel ashamed of being a single, never married woman is that they are in unhappy marriages themselves. Perhaps this is the case with you???
Saturday, December 3rd 2011 at 5:43PM
Siebra Muhammad
And just so you know Jen I am a believer not a cultist...cultists believe in honour killings like Robert does, while BELIEVERS do not...
Saturday, December 3rd 2011 at 5:46PM
Siebra Muhammad
Siebra X,

Who told you the purpose of this site? Are you also a part of the Administration of BIA? Whatever! I'll determine for myself the purpose of my being Black and In America... not you. I'm a free Black woman who thinks for herself unlike you ... you allow the NOI to think for you.


Saturday, December 3rd 2011 at 5:50PM
Jen Fad
set her straight sister Siebra...unlike jen you and I know how to keep our legs closed and not make babies out of wedlock lol
Saturday, December 3rd 2011 at 5:52PM
Kemetria 'Kim' Smith
Saint,

I apologize because its not my intention of making this great blog into a place to squabble and on that note... I'll try to abstain from further confrontation with Kim Eat Herself and Siebra Muhhamed X...


Saturday, December 3rd 2011 at 5:53PM
Jen Fad
Sister Jen I do not allow the NOI to think for me...I may be young in terms of age but mature enough to think for myself and use common sense and not just my feelings. If you were half as intelligent as you would have me to believe you would have never made the statement above about me being on my way to being a dried-up prune and going tit for tat with me, now would you?
Saturday, December 3rd 2011 at 6:05PM
Siebra Muhammad

I write based on History and Scholarship.

the "picky" siebra has written BIA many times that she/he/it does not Believe the History and Scholarship of AlQur'aan and the Sunnah of Mohamed(as) --- over and over

so she/he/it has written us that she is not a believer, as 2 BIllion Muslims in the World believe.

-----saint will give BIA scholarship that Adaam, Musa, Ibraheem Isa, through Mohamed(asm) and AtTaurat, AlIngeel and AlQur'aan all conclude from the Creator that female must marry---and NO female of child bearing age, should be without a husband.

now as for siebra called another person "personal" --- she is nothing but personal----

she writes, "honour killings like Robert does, while BELIEVERS do not..."

what is honour killings?

does it mean when a female is a prostitute or goes against Monotheistic Moral Codes and The Law of Creator is executed as Adaam, Musa, Ibraheem Isa, through Mohamed(asm) and AtTaurat, AlIngeel and AlQur'aan would?

yes, sweet irma you can add my name to your writing, "Jake and also Gary, just ignore me..."

original man? Man this is 2011 and Many people can read and think -- learn something sometime.....


Sunday, December 4th 2011 at 1:15PM
powell robert
@ Brother Gary,

I had to work so I'm just getting back to this blog. I do believe in marriage and family; however, I don't believe in hooking up with someone with "the flower of my youth" has dried up and I don't recommend that for a normal thinking woman. That person who believes that kind of nonsense is truly missing some marbles.

@ Brother Rob,

[the "picky" siebra has written BIA many times that she/he/it does not Believe the History and Scholarship of AlQur'aan and the Sunnah of Mohamed(as) --- over and over so she/he/it has written us that she is not a believer, as 2 BIllion Muslims in the World believe. ]

((Lol)) .... Muslims marry and have families EARLY and not wait until they are 70. Hey by the way... there was an article today at the CNN blog regarding Muslims

BELIEF
Why are Muslims more religious?
New evidence suggests that Muslims tend to be more committed to their faith than other believers.

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/03/c...



Sunday, December 4th 2011 at 5:35PM
Jen Fad

thank you saint for giving us information that you have committed many of the forbidden acts that believers of Leviticus would stone you for..............

and of course I apologize for commenting on commentators on YOUR Subject

but

jenFad brings in a great deal of Scholarship and I would suggest all read her link, thanks

but, to why Muslims are more likely to follow the Creator of Adaam(as)----Muslims follow and discipline themselves to Belief of All Monotheistic Messages and Belief from Adaam to Mohamed(as)

as for the injunction on Saints' thoughts and actions, Allaah says:

Sûrat An-Nisâ’
(The Women) IV
In the Name of Allâah,the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful


1. O mankind! Be dutiful to your Lord, Who created you from a single person, Adaam, and from him He created his wife Hawwâ (Eve), and from them both He created many men and women; and fear Allâah through Whom you have mutual rights, and do not cut the relations of Family. Surely, Allâah is Ever an All-Watcher over you.


24. Also (forbidden are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess. Thus has Allâah ordained for you. All others are lawful, provided you seek (them in marriage) with Mahr (bridal-money given by the husband to his wife at the time of marriage) from your property, desiring chastity, not committing illegal s*xual intercourse, so with those of whom you have enjoyed s*xual relations, give them their Mahr as prescribed; but if after a Mahr is prescribed, you agree mutually (to give more), there is no sin on you. Surely, Allâah is Ever All-Knowing, All-Wise.

25. And whoever of you have not the means wherewith to wed free, believing women, they may wed believing girls from among those whom your right hands possess, and Allâah has full knowledge about your Faith; you are one from another. Wed them with the permission of their own folk (guardians, Auliyâ’ or masters) and give them their Mahr according to what is reasonable; they (the above said captives) should be chaste, not committing illegal s*x, nor taking boy-friends. And after they have been taken in wedlock, if they commit illegal s*xual intercourse, their punishment is half that for free (unmarried) women. This is for him among you who is afraid of being harmed in his religion or in his body; but it is better for you that you practise self-restraint, and Allâah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

26. Allâah wishes to make clear (what is lawful and what is unlawful) to you, and to show you the ways of those before you, and accept your repentance, and Allâh is All-Knower, All-Wise.

27. Allâah wishes to accept your repentance, but those who follow their lusts, wish that you Believers should deviate tremendously away (from the Right Path).

28. Allâah wishes to lighten (the burden) for you; and man was created weak (cannot be patient to leave s*xual intercourse with woman).

29. O you who believe! Eat not up your property among yourselves unjustly except it be a trade amongst you, by mutual consent. And do not kill yourselves (nor kill one another). Surely, Allâah is Most Merciful to you.

30. And whoever commits that through aggression and injustice, We shall cast him into the Fire, and that is easy for Allâah.

31. If you avoid the great sins which you are forbidden to do, We shall expiate from you your (small) sins, and admit you to a Noble Entrance (Paradise).

32. And wish not for the things in which Allâah has made some of you to excel others. For men there is reward for what they have earned, (and likewise) for women there is reward for what they have earned, and ask Allâah of His Bounty. Surely, Allâah is Ever All-Knower of everything.


Monday, December 5th 2011 at 10:20AM
powell robert
@ Saint,

Concubines... did God sanction that or was that something man did like ... the decree of Divorce... ? Anyway... all I want to know is ... are you going to have concubines once you and Ms. Saint tie the knot?


Monday, December 5th 2011 at 1:39PM
Jen Fad
@ Saint,

You have no sense! ((Lol))



Monday, December 5th 2011 at 6:27PM
Jen Fad
I'd have my gat ready... if my husband dare it!


Monday, December 5th 2011 at 6:34PM
Jen Fad

saint, i know with you and gary, late nights and wine is IMPORTANT.

thats OK----of course Allaah stopped the practice of wine, after the start of the Revelation of AlQur'aan---so IsaIbnMaryam drank wine?(not Scotch)

there is nothing wrong, as YOU say, to marry cousins?

Dawood, did not commit adultery, YOU and King James Version say that----but a ruler, a warrior that wins---BY AtTaurat and AlQur'aan can have wives from conquest of DISBELIEVERS---disbelievers do not know what they are READING, like gary----so here is what Allaah, The Most High---The Judge of The Family of Adaam(as)---says:

Sûrat An-Nisâ’
(The Women) IV
In the Name of Allâah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful

149. Whether Mankind disclose by good words of thanks a good deed, done to you in the form of a favour by someone, or conceal it, or pardon an evil, Allâah is Ever Oft-Pardoning, All-Powerful.

150. Truly, those who disbelieve in Allâah and His Messengers and wish to make distinction between Allâah and His Messengers, saying, "We believe in some but reject others," and wish to adopt a way in between.

151. They are in truth disbelievers. We have prepared for the disbelievers a humiliating torment.

152. And those who believe in Allâah and His Messengers and make no distinction between any Messengers, We shall give them their rewards; and Allâah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

153. The people of the Scripture (Jews) ask you to cause a book to descend upon them from heaven. Indeed they asked Mûsâ (Moses) for even greater than that, when they said: "Show us Allâah in public," but they were struck with thunder and lightningfor their wickedness. Then they worshipped the calf even after clear proofs, evidence, and signs had come to them. Even then, We forgave them. And We gave Mûsâ a clear proof of authority.

154. And for their covenant, We raised over them the Mount and, We said: "Enter the gate prostrating (or bowing) with humility;" and We commanded them: " Do not Transgress by doing worldly works, on the Sabbath (Saturday)." And We took from them a firm covenant.


and gary, DO read AlQur'aan; sometime, somewhere----




Tuesday, December 6th 2011 at 8:50AM
powell robert
@ Saint,

That's my girl... put the beat down on him if he dare it! ((Lol)) Oh yes, I remeber those switchings and the deliberations over picking the right size branch. We would do some real creative dances as well as rolling on the floor, too! Ha!







Tuesday, December 6th 2011 at 10:05AM
Jen Fad

the problem with allNighters and wine drinkers is that they can get off subject FAST.

I have already, and even steve already destroyed your nonLinguistic understanding of events 2000+ years ago and how you can only go with paganChristian King James Version of events to make an argument concerning, Allaah-The Most High................

cause jews in NYLA , Israel never would agree with you concerning, hebrew and israel -- they would argue with me. They know that a funny looking guy on a NY street spouting AtTaurat and KNOWS nothing about History or Scholarship of the Yahuda people or language, is just that--- a funny looking guy.

as for gary amening you, again any Muslim that sees a funny looking guy on a street corner spouting paganChristianity and does not KNOW anything about AlQur'aan is another funny looking guy.

YOUR blag subject is about how females in America can ENJOY the right that the Creator of Adaam(as) gave to the female.

All females should be married, but slaverAmericana paganChristianity as understood in english of King James; has taken away the rights of American females - through past enslavement, rape, pedophilia, de*****ation of their language, MALES and Belief of Africa --- so I believe that EVEN your points on YOUR subject are valid ---American females need to look to the Scriptures and Beliefs of Prophets of Allaah, The Most High to TAKE back their rights to Marriage and decent living............

and again if you want to rehash your understanding of 2000+ years we can do that on another subject or privately, I will be in NY January 5 - 25th.


Tuesday, December 6th 2011 at 10:14AM
powell robert

can we just stay on YOUR subject but since you added "sir"

i have not been knighted by the Queen of England or any of her ancestors like King James; although her son allowed us to begin our meal with Suratul Fatiha.

YOU use king james, to explain yourself though, I would never

i consider that family in the Running for "Worst" Family of ALL TIME

"lame universities in america and israel"???

and steve or anyone with scholarship and any Historical knowledge would question your "truth, scholarship and only yourMind facts" in fact that statement sounds harryesque to me..........

come on saint, so a guy on a club in NY has and understanding of hebrew and yahuda that american and israeli jews do not????---- now that is harryesque...............!

share? or do you mean she would not follow the way of "the Most High"----


Tuesday, December 6th 2011 at 5:49PM
powell robert

again, we seem to be getting off of YOUR blog subject and you may just be getting ready for your clubbing? and if you made a mistake, i understand you have to drink wine like your jesus.

but you write,

"Isaiah was given a prophesy about the so-called black americans coming here to the Americas to serve slavery."

these black americans came from where?

so this is what you call in olde english King James "prophesy" ---- this is what you have been to, done that, and the source of, YOU intelligent?

again, a funny looking guy on a street corner in NY that is crazy, is a funny looking guy, who is crazy.....

where is the source of your dribbling?

who verifies your dribbling?

is it the same source that harry whately has?

is it the same source as siebra has?

i make no dribble of my own, i have only used 2000 years of scholarship and history by BILLIONS of people on every continent...............AlQur'aan

your dribble is verified by the Genesis of slaverAmericana in the oldeEnglish and refined by a ghetto street corner harryesque divinity........?

come on you seem like you at least READ, how do you, Saint; make such, "you know something claims, you only know something that has NO history or scholarship, but; you know?" pleeeeeze

that rhetoric is the same as the writer Harry, and a stereotype that African Americans need to smash, as BIA preamble states and as Our President Baraaka Hussein Obama warns us against using old childish thinking in our search for CHANGING American Society........

so again, we can talk about this at another time, but your GETTING off subject ideas are actually WHY the AMerican female 2011 is having problems enjoying and attaining the RIGHTS that Allaah, the Most High, has Promised His one of His Greatest Creations.

get back on your subject and do not wander in your thoughts, IT IS A SIGN of INTELLECTUAL WEAKNESS..................INFERIORITY of KNOWLEDGE...................

Wednesday, December 7th 2011 at 7:01AM
powell robert

you get off Your Subject so easily,

but why do you bring up murder, bombings, rapes etc.?

you and I both know that in the past 10 years, there have been MORE murders, bombings and rapes by Americans(de*****ating our Nation); than in the whole WORLD combined, including the middleEast

and your jew/hebrew/israeli nation has been at WAR for 63 years, since its inception, with ALL its neighbors ---- yet you want BIA to listen to your ghettoCultist take on their culture and history?------

not I

and this dribble about Isa? what does english Transliteration have to do with "right to left"-

----FACTS:
1. english is a 1100 year old language of paganGermanicAnglo origin; read right to left
2. english has NO basis of origin with 4-5,000 YEAR old aramaic, hebrew and Arabic Asian Languages
i know you do'nt want this to highlite your "intelligent" thought on BIA ---so just go back to subject

But, I could write all day about prophesy or Ijaaz AlQur'aan but a most important:

Sûrat Ar-Rûm
(The Romans) XXX
In the Name of Allâah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful

1. Alif-Lâm-Mîm.

2. The Romans have been defeated.

3. In the nearest land (Syria, Iraq, Jordan, and Palestine), and they, after their defeat, will be victorious.

4. Within three to nine years. The decision of the matter, before and after these events, is only with Allâah. On that Day, the believers will rejoice at the victory given by Allâah to the Romans against the Persians.

5. With the help of Allâah. He helps whom He wills, and He is the All-Mighty, the Most Merciful.
6. It is a Promise of Allâah, Allâah will give victory to the Romans against the Persians, and Allâah does not fail in His Promise, but most of men know not.

This 'prophesy or Ijaaz AlQur'aan, allowed the development of the Spread of AlQur'aan and Sunnah of Mohamed(as) to every continent and on the tongue and mind of 2 BILLION muslims 2011.

but your GETTING off YOUR BLAG subject you are actually WHY the AMerican female 2011 is having problems enjoying and attaining the RIGHTS that Allaah, the Most High, has Promised His one of His Greatest Creations.

get back on your subject and do not wander in your thoughts, IT IS A SIGN of INTELLECTUAL WEAKNESS..................INFERIORITY of KNOWLEDGE...................and that ALL NIGHT meatMarket female postings of yours do not help the American Female get a Husband or Family........



Thursday, December 8th 2011 at 12:26PM
powell robert

you know Truth is the beginning and end, alAwal, alAqeera

the negros that worshipped the calf after Musa(as) had to have someone sent---they were lost sheep

but Ibraheem, Ishaq, Yacub, Musa, Dawood, IsaIbnMaryam through Mohamed, all were Believers of the Creator of Adaam(asm) and All taught the same thing.................

and that is in the original scriptures...for the picky women and men----- All the Family of Adaam(as)


Thursday, December 8th 2011 at 10:24PM
powell robert

the reality Saint is that your definitions and assumptions are the understanding of paganChristian euroCentric colorWorship

america, babylon?

prophesy? ---- no prophesy is Suratul Rum and AlQur'aan ---USING EVENTS of the present time and forecasting what will happen with these SAME events LATER>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

show me america in any scripture?


Friday, December 9th 2011 at 8:49AM
powell robert

i can ALWAYS defend...........

again, Suratul Rum is Prophesy-----------

you on the other hand use NOTHING, that is studied, read, developed, understood or believed by anyone in the WORLD+ 2011>................. or has EVER been studied, read, developed, understood or believed by anyone in the WORLD>..4000 BC to 2010...............

how many jews in ny believe YOU-2011? 0
how many jews in israel believe YOU-2011? 0
how many jews in ny 0-2010 believe YOU? 0
how many jews in israel 0+2010 believe YOU? 0

but you want USes on BIA to believe you, again ----get back on your subject and do not wander in your thoughts, IT IS A SIGN of INTELLECTUAL WEAKNESS..................INFERIORITY of KNOWLEDGE...............


Friday, December 9th 2011 at 7:14PM
powell robert
Hello to all of you,

Let me explain the chemistry that is floating through all of you. It is a chemistry of extreme ignorance and stupidity. It is an irrational chemistry that drives us apart rather than pulls us together. Black Americans just like the children of Israel are not an intelligent people.

Check this out! Everyone so far that is dialoguing on this blog is a Black American. Yet, look how far apart we are from coming to a rational consensus. This sort of irrational thinking and ignorance is because we do not know who we are to begin with because we came out of plantation slavery. It would be necessary that God would send us a prophet who would tell us who we are since God knows who we are.

Let me explain myself. You all are arguing from other people's positions. Robert is arguing from the Arabian position and he is not an Arab man. Saint Jake is arguing from the Caucasian/Jewish position and he is not a Jewish man.
Siebra Muhammad is arguing from a different Islam than Robert, but nevertheless it is an Arabian position Siebra is arguing from and she is not an Arab woman.

Black America's religion is not Islam since a Black American prophet did not give it to us. It was an Arab prophet that introduced Islam to his Arabian people after God anointed him.

Black America's religion is LIFE and it is a Black American that God gave this religion to after anointing him, Prophet Harry. I am not telling you anything different that happened to us as a people that did not happen to the Arabian and Jewish people. I am the most rational member of BIA and I am Black America's first genuine prophet to permanently correct our problems.

If you stand from the outside looking in you can readily see you all 41 million Black Americans are extremely ignorant people as the children of Israel were since the children of Israel and Black Americans are products of institutionalize and systemic mental and physical slavery over hundreds of years. So there is a rational and logical reason why you all are extremely ignorant due to plantation slavery.

If you all could possibly see yourselves as one people (Black Americans) it would help you all to rationally move away from trying to be other people by believing in their personal scriptures from God and experiences to desire to have your own scriptures and experiences to tell the world. When you come to understand reality as I do it will not be any need for you all to argue amongst yourselves.

Am I making any sense?

The point that I am making is that you all are arguing from other people's positions, religions and beliefs while you are not those people indicates the severity of you all ignorance and stupidity as a race of people.

Anyway, the issue of failed marriages or not concerned in the race of Black Americans along with our many and many other faults what have continued if God had not stepped in to permanently put an end to Black America's downfall. God did the same for the children of Israel when they were in bondage and slavery in Egypt.

Saturday, December 10th 2011 at 11:42AM
Harry Watley

chemistry [ˈkɛmɪstrɪ]
n pl -tries
1. (Chemistry) the branch of physical science concerned with the composition, properties, and reactions of substances
2. (Chemistry) the composition, properties, and reactions of a particular substance
3. the nature and effects of any complex phenomenon the chemistry of humour
4. Informal a reaction, taken to be instinctual, between two persons

harry of the selfProfessed 68IQ retarded chemistry; writes(over and over)

---"Black Americans just like the children of Israel are not an intelligent people."

i would say that Americans that describe their Humanity with a color, white, red, or black are NOT an intelligent people..............does that work for you harry?


Saturday, December 10th 2011 at 6:13PM
powell robert
Robert,

You are incredibly stupid! I am inspired by God to keep telling you that Black Americans are not a color people as in orange, green or white. Black Americans are a new race of people born out of the ashes of plantation slavery when White Americans bred selves with a African slaves over a period of hundreds of years, but ended in 1865 and by that time Black Americans were a new race of people to be added with the many other different races to up the world.

Hopefully one of these times explaining that Black Americans are not a color people as in orange, green or white you will come to understand. But for the moment because your extremely stupid that you cannot understand what I'm saying nor perhaps don't want to which translate into extreme stupidity any way.

The reasons I say the same things over and over is because your stupid mind does not have the capacity to understand the first or the second time telling you the same thing.

For instance, I have been telling you over and over that prophets are racially different and prove it to we you by comparing the Arabia Prophet Mohammed to the Jewish Prophet Moses and then to Prophet Harry who is a Black American. Yet, you see all of us as the same race. You are incredibly stupid!
Consequentially, I am inspired because I am your prophet and not Mohammed that I must continuously tell you how irrational your thinking is.

One of the reasons that prophets are racially different is because a people of one race cannot embrace a prophet of another race. Likewise, a prophet of one race can not help a people of another race.

If you would take a hint from Angel Gabriel commanding Prophet Mohammed to read God creation that he'd be intelligent as a prophet must be you will see that what I am saying is true that prophets are racially different and the reason I gave is also true.
That means that you have no spiritual intelligence because you embrace Islam and Prophet Mohammed when you are not an Arab, but a Black American man. You are just as stupid as Elijah Muhammad was when he embraced Islam and thought that Mr. Fard Muhammad was God.
You have never rationally proved that I am wrong. All you have ever done is to criticize and mock me as all prophets have been mocked by that people, am I right

My Black American people are extremely ignorant, but our time has come to be mentally and physically free that God has anointed me Black America's first genuine prophet.

Robert Powell your true religion is LIFE and I am your prophet.

Sunday, December 11th 2011 at 6:29AM
Harry Watley

you normally end your RERUN, with what say you,or something like are you right?

again YOU define yourself with paganChristianity and YOU are always wrong, not just in my opinion but probably ALL of BIA.


Sunday, December 11th 2011 at 8:50AM
powell robert
Stupid Robert,

How can you tell me that I define myself as a pagan Christianity and that I am always wrong when you do not know that an Arabian man is racially different from a Black American man?

Since you cannot rationalize simple things as racial diversity throughout the world and in the days of Prophet Mohammed how can you define anything for me or anyone else? You are incredibly stupid.

Tuesday, December 13th 2011 at 12:29AM
Harry Watley

you 68Harry, EMBRACE and USE the kingJames Version of events of 3000 + years......to explain your 'blackMan' AND your fairyTale divinity.

so i see no indonesian, no hindi, no european, no african EMBRACING a colorWorship but a worship of the Creator of Adaam(as)

this is what the Creator of Adaam(as) says,

Sûrat Yûsuf
[(Prophet) Joseph) ] XII
In the Name of Allâah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful


1. Alif-Lâm-Râ.

2. We have sent it down as an Arabic Qur’âan in order that you may understand.

3. We relate to Mohamed, the best of stories through Our Revelations to you, of AlQur’âan. And before this, you were among those who knew nothing about Revelation.

4. When, Yûsuf (Joseph) said to his father: "O my father! I saw eleven stars and the sun and the moon - I saw them prostrating themselves to me."

53. "And I am not above blame, the human self is inclined to evil, except when my Lord bestows His Mercy upon whom He wills. My Lord is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful."

54. And the king said: "Bring him to me that I may attach him to my person." Then, when he spoke to him, he said: "This day, you are with us high in rank and fully trusted."

55. Yûsuf said: "Set me over the store-houses of the land; I will indeed guard them with full knowledge" as a minister of finance in Egypt.

56. Thus did We give full authority to Yûsuf in the land, to take possession therein, when or where he likes. We bestow of Our Mercy on whom We will, and We make not to be lost the reward of Al-Muhsinûn (the good doers ).

57. The reward of the Hereafter is better for those who believe and used to fear Allâah and keep their duty to Him (by abstaining from all kinds of sins and evil deeds and by performing all kinds of righteous good deeds).

here is a passage of a Prophet of the Creator of Adaam(as) BEFORE Musa, another of the Prophets of Allaah, Illaah in Hebrew language.

AND Yusuf is given AUTHORITY in the land of Pharoah long before Musa, So this logically states that the hebrew/jew, Believer in the Creator of Adaam(as) became the Leader.

but your silly kingJames version slaverChristianity translate various paganLanguages to give you a stupidito version, YET you EMBRACE and USE them............in your LIFE.......

get a READING and COMPREHENSION buddy and LEarn something, sometime.

back to the topic of this blag, May the Creator of Adaam(as) have Mercy on the Believers and doers of Good, and give every female Marital Bliss.


Tuesday, December 13th 2011 at 8:39AM
powell robert
Stupid Robert,

You cannot tell me what the Creator of Adam says in AlQuran since you do not recognize racial diversity. You do not recognize that Prophet Mohammed was racially different from Prophet Moses.
You believe that a Chinese man is racially the same as a Black American man. A Chinese boy knows he is not the same as a Black American boy, but you don't know it.
To be so stupid how can you have credible understanding of AlQuran? It is not possible! You are extremely stupid and that is why you do not understand that Black America's religion LIFE is not a color worship. You are incredibly stupid.
In addition, you do not understand that AlQuran and Al Islam exclusively belong to the Arabian people and not Black Americans. Black Americans and Arabian people are racially different. Therefore, the same way God came to the Arabian people through Prophet Mohammed God came to Black Americans through Prophet Harry. The same way God came to the Jewish people through Moses is the same way God came to the Arabian people through Prophet Mohammed and the same way God came to Black Americans through Prophet Harry.

What I am saying is so simple and backed up by the facts of history for the Jewish people and the Arabian people that God visited them, but you cannot understand that Black Americans have God blessing as well. Black Americans have what the Arabian people have which is a prophet, Prophet Harry and a religion named LIFE. So why you keep telling me what AlQuran say shows how stupid you are because Black Americans don't need to follow AlQuran since Black Americans are not Arabian people.

Just to emphasize how stupid you are is that you are a Black American but a wannabe Arabian man following AlQuran. You are stupid! God did not give you the Arabian prophet, Prophet Mohammed. God did not give you AlQuran and Al Islam. God gave AlQuran and Al Islam to the Arabian people only. You are incredibly stupid!

Wednesday, December 14th 2011 at 7:54AM
Harry Watley

Prophet Mohamed(as) was THE SAME as Prophet Musa(as) and Prophet Yusuf(as) and ........physically, morally, linguistically, socially..................All are the SAME as Adaam(as) and ALL are of the Family of Adaam(as)

and Their Creator says:

Sûrat A-Hijr
(The Rocky Foundation) XV
In the Name of Allâah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful


1. Alif-Lâm-Râ.

2. Those who disbelieved will greatly wish that they had been Muslims - those who have submitted themselves to Allâah’s Will of Monotheism - this will be on the Day of Resurrection when they will see the disbelievers going to Hell and the Muslims going to Paradise.

3. Leave them to eat and enjoy dunja, and let them be preoccupied with hope. They will know!

4. Never did We destroy a community but there was a known decree.

5. No people can advance its term, nor delay it.

6. And they say: "O you Mohamed, to whom the Dhikr (AlQur’âan) has been sent down! Verily, you are an incorrect man!

7. "Why do you not bring Angels to us if you are of the truthful diviners?"

8. We do not send the angels except with the Truth of judgement, and in that case, the disbelievers would have no respite of the actions!

9. We, it is We Who have sent down the Dhikr (AlQur’âan) and, We will guard it's PURITY.[1]
10. We sent Messengers before you Mohamed, amongst the communities of old.

11. Never did a Messenger come to them but they mocked him.

12. Thus do We let it (polytheism, and disbelief) enter the hearts of the Mujrimûn (criminals, polytheists and pagans because of their mocking at the Messengers).

13. They would not believe in AlQur’âan; and already the example of Allâah’s punishment of those before who disbelieved is seen in evidence.

14. Even if We opened to them a gate from Heaven and they were to ascend continuosly,

15. They would surely say, "Our eyes have been dazzled (we have not seen any angel or heaven). Nay, we are a people that have seen mirages."


[1]
(V.15:9) This Verse is a challenge to mankind and everyone is obliged to believe in the miracles of AlQur’âan. It is a clear fact that more than 1400 years have elapsed and not a single word of AlQur’âan has been changed, although the disbelievers tried their utmost to change it in every way, but they failed in their efforts. As it is mentioned in this Ayah: "We will guard it." By Allâah! He has guarded it. On the contrary, all the other holy Books [AtTaurât (Torah), AlInjeel (Gospel).] have been corrupted in the form of additions or subtractions or alterations in the original text. AlQur'aan in 2011 is still maintained in Originality by the Memorization of the Original by LEGIONS of Believers in every corner of the Earth.


Wednesday, December 14th 2011 at 8:11AM
powell robert

you must have done the above comments after an AllNIGHTER and drinking wine with your jesus.

As A Believer of The Creator of Adaam(as),

Yes! Ibraheem is the Friend of the Believers of The Family of Adaam(as) and I am very much able to say that the Yehuda were the Believers of The Creator of Adaam(as) and of course with the Greatest Mercy from Allaah, "AT a TIME......"

As Ibraheem found the First Place of Worship to Allaah, at MECCAH, AlKaaba..............and had another son, Ismaeel, from his wife Hajar........

When I write, "at that time", means after the Splitting of the Red Sea by the Lord of Musa(as); Allaah then weeded out the disBelieving goldThieves with the making of their, 'god; goldieCALF'.

and the remnants of the Believers of Musa's Lord, Allaah; whom Allaah made to perish in the desert 200-300 miles from Palestine. They were in the desert for 40+ years --- even KingJames passed that down...............amoungst the other fabrications and misinformation from his paganRoman brethern King Constintine..............and their 4th Century 'BOOKS of the BIBBLE'

any scholar knows that Hadeeth --- are recorded ways and sayings of Mohamed(as); as He was the Example of Man as AlQur'aan Notes and the Best of Created things.............


so yes, AlQur'aan is the Original Message from the Creator of Adaam(as) and in 2011 -- the most memorized used Words of Creator in the Earth........

saint writes, "And Salvation is granted to everyone, right?????"

NO, Salvation is granted to the Believers and ONLY the Creator of Adaam(as) has that decision............

.....and if you read the real meaning of your feeble attempt at The Book of Believers of Al-A‘râf---below I will give it to you.......It actually ENDS with your Above Original Subject..................

I know that paganChristian 'understanding' is made up of little phrases and verses, with NO overall meaning or content as devised by King Constantine, the popes and King James

So please, for Scholarship sake----stay with your bible and your-- nonKnowledge of Language of 3000+ years ago.

but the Deen, way of life, of the Believer in The Creator of Adaam(as) gives knowledge in precise order and relevance so that True understanding can be achieved by The Family of Adaam(as) -----

Sûrat Al-A‘râf

The Heights, The Walls with Elevations VII

In the Name of Allâah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful


1. Alif-Lâm-Mîm-Sâd.

2. AlQur'aan sent down unto you Mohamed, so let not your understanding be narrow and do warn and reminder the believers.

3. Say Mohamed to these idolaters (pagan Arabs), Follow what has been sent down unto you from your Lord AlQur’âan and follow not any Auliyâ’ (protectors and helpers who order you to associate partners in worship with Allâah.

179. And surely, We have created many of the jinn and mankind for Hell. They have hearts wherewith they understand not, and they have eyes where they see not, and they have ears where they do not hear Truth. They are like cattle, no even more astray! They are the heedless ones.

180. And (all) the Most Beautiful Names belong to Allâah, so call on Him by them, and leave the company of those who belie or deny or utter impious speech against His Names. They will be requited for what they do.

181. And of those whom We have created, there is a community who guides others with the truth, and establishes justice.

182. Those who reject Our Ayât (proofs, evidence, verses, lessons, signs, revelations), We shall gradually seize them with punishment in ways they perceive not.

183. And I respite them; certainly My Plan is strong.

184. Do they not reflect? There is no disagreement in Mohamed, He is but a plain warner.

185. Do they not look in the dominion of the heavens and the earth and all things that Allâah has created; and that it may be that the end of their lives is near. In what message after this will they then believe?

186. Whoever Allâah sends astray, none can guide him; and He lets them wander blindly in their transgressions.

187. They ask you about the Hour (Day of Resurrection): "When will be its appointed time?" Say: "The knowledge is with my Lord , Allaah. None can reveal its time but He. Heavy is its burden through the heavens and the earth. It shall not come upon you except all of a sudden." They ask you as if you have a good knowledge of it. Say: "The knowledge is with Allâah, but most of Mankind know nothing."

188. Say Mohamed, "I possess no power over benefit or harm to myself except as Allâah wills. If I had the knowledge of the Ghaib (Unseen), I should have secured for myself an abundance of wealth, and no evil should have touched me. I am but a warner, and a bringer of glad tidings unto people who believe."

189. It is He Who has created you from a single person Adaam(as) and He has created from him his wife [Hawwâ’ (Eve)], in order that he might enjoy the pleasure of living with her.

So yes all Females, should have the pickiness of Hawwaa.............the wife of Adaam(as) or the wives of Musa, Ibraheem, Ishaaq and Mohamed(asm)...................

Wednesday, December 14th 2011 at 6:57PM
powell robert

king constatine and his pagan assembly of AtTaurat and AlAngeel served the purpose of romanPaganism ONLY --- didnt he?

...........do any of your jewish/hebrew/israeli friends agree with your description or would they agree with 2 Billion Believers of Ibraheem(as), his book AtTaurat; HIS WIFE, Hajar; HIS SON, Ismaeel(as) and i?

and again your no Hebrew Language shows, bondwoman?

in the time of Ibraheem(as) and the Believers of the Creator of Adaam(as); we give Mahar, or Dowries to the family of new wives to bind our Families into the Family of Adaam(as).

and of course, why would you be against, 'egyptian'?-------------Yusuf(as) and Musa(as) were leaders of pharoahs egypt----------maybe your paganChristian euroCentric thinking is TOO colorWorship clouded------------As Ibraheem(as) is the Friend of Allaah, AlAziz(the most high)----Hajar is sometimes called the Mother of the NATION of Ibraheem.

back to your Subject, wives are not english paganChristian slaves,

Wives are the ESSENTIAL part of the Family of Adaam(as)---and Mankind...............



Sûrat Âl-‘Imrân
(The Family of Imran-zakarriya, maryam, isa) III

In the Name of Allâah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful

1. Alif-Lâm-Mîm.

2. Allâah! Lâ ilâha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He), Al-Hayyul-Qayyum (the Ever Living, the One Who sustains and protects all that exists).

3. It is He Who has sent down AlQur’âan to you Mohamed, with Truth, confirming what came before it. As He had sent down At Taurât (Torah) and AlInjeel (Gospel),

4. As an Eternal guidance to Mankind. He sent down the criterion of judgement between right and wrong, AlQur'aan. Truly, those who disbelieve in the Ayât (proofs, evidence, verses, lessons, signs, revelations) of Allâah, for them there is a severe torment; and Allâah is All-Mighty, All-Able of Retribution.


93. All food was lawful to the Children of Israel, except what Israel made unlawful for himself before AtTaurât was revealed. Mohamed صلى الله عليه وسلم): "Bring AtTaurât and recite it, if you are truthful."

94. Then after that, whosoever shall invent a lie against Allâah, ... such shall indeed be the Zâlimûn (disbelievers)

95. (O Mohamed صلى الله عليه وسلم): "Allâah has spoken the truth; follow the religion of Ibrâhîm Hanîfa - Monotheism, he worshipped Allâah Alone), and he was not of Al-Mushrikûn "(pagans, criminals)

96. Truly, the first House of worship appointed for mankind was that at Makkah, full of blessing, and a guidance for Al-‘Âlamîn (mankind and jinn).

97. In it are manifest signs. the Maqâm-place; of Ibrâhîm; whosoever enters it, he attains security. And Hajj (pilgrimage to Makkah) to the House (Ka‘bah ) is a duty that mankind owes to Allâah, those who can afford the expenses (for one’s conveyance, provision and residence); and whoever disbelieves, then Allâah stands not in need of any of the ‘Âlamîn (mankind, jinn and all that exists).

98."O people of the Scripture (Jews/Christians)! Why do you reject the Ayât of Allâah (proofs, evidence, verses, lessons, signs, revelations) while Allâah is Witness to what you do?"



Hajar
b) Allâah’s Statement: "And Allaah ..." (V.16:71). Narrated Abu Hurairah رضي الله عنه: The Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم said, "Prophet Ibrâhîm (Abraham) عليه السلام emigrated with Sârah and entered a village where there was a king from amongst the kings or a tyrant from amongst the tyrants. (The king) was told that Ibrâhîm (Abraham) had entered (the village) accompanied by a woman who was one of the most charming women. So, the king sent for Ibrâhîm (Abraham) and asked, ‘O Ibrâhîm (Abraham)! Who is this lady accompanying you?’ Ibrâhîm (Abraham) replied, ‘She is my sister (i.e., in religion).’ Then Ibrâhîm (Abraham) returned to her and said, ‘Do not contradict my statement, for I have informed them that you are my sister. By Allâah, there are not true believers on the earth except you and I.’ Then Ibrâhîm (Abraham) sent her to the king. When the king got to her, she got up and performed ablution, offered Salât (prayer) and said, ‘O Allâah! If I have believed in You and Your Messenger, and have guarded my private parts from everybody except my husband, then please do not let this disbeliever overpower me.’ On that the king fell in a state of unconsciousness (or had an epileptic fit) and started moving his legs. Seeing the condition of the king, Sârah said, ‘O Allâah! If he should die, the people will say that I have killed him.’ The king regained his power, and proceeded towards her but she got up again and performed ablution, offered Salât (prayer) and said, ‘O Allâah! If I have believed in You and Your Messenger and have kept my private parts safe from all except my husband, then please do not let this disbeliever overpower me.’ The king again fell in a state of unconsciousness (or had epileptic fit) and started moving his legs. On seeing that state of the king, Sârah said, ‘O Allâah! If he should die, the people will say that I have killed him.’ The king got either two or three attacks, and after recovering from the last attack he said, ‘By Allâah! You have sent a Satan to me. Take her to Ibrâhîm (Abraham) and give her Agar (Hagar).’ So she came back to Ibrâhîm (Abraham) and said, ‘Allâah humiliated the disbeliever and gave us a slave-girl for service.’ " (Sahih Al Bukhari, Vol.3. Hadith No 420).

i will take my AtTaurat and AlQur'aan; hebrew and arabic CENTRIC sources OVER your european paganChristian english only Understanding anytime.............

Thursday, December 15th 2011 at 8:33AM
powell robert
To Jake and Robert,

What would settle the argument between the both of you is that both of you must acknowledge and start from fact #-1 that prophets are racially different. There is lots of intelligence that comes out of the fact that prophets are racially different.

When you realized that Prophet Abraham, Prophet Moses and Prophet Mohammed are not your race and therefore they are not in Black America's lineage or genealogy you will realize how much knuckleheads you all are to be arguing over something that is not a part of you and was never a part of you.

Black Americans must get our prophet, religion and salvation from God the same way the ancient Hebrews and Arabians got theirs. The ancient Hebrews got theirs directly from God through one of their own kinds that we referred to as their prophet. The Arabians got theirs directly from the same God through one of their own kinds as well, Prophet Mohammed.
Likewise, Black Americans are now God people as the ancient Hebrew people claimed they were God people long time ago, and so what Black Americans are getting is directly from God through one of our own kinds, Prophet Harry. I know that you all do not believe that I am Black America's first genuine prophet that would lead Black Americans into sovereignty on a best fertile and reasonable portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders. But, I am.

Again, you all are arguing over some thing that doesn't belong to you. What you all are arguing over belongs to the Arabian people and the Jewish people. AlQuran belongs to the Arabian people and the Torah and the New Testament belongs to the Jewish people and European gentiles. The European gentiles are people such as King Constantine who made Christianity the official religion of the European gentile world.

Anyway, what belongs to the Arabian and the European Caucasians has nothing to do with Black Americans since our prophet must be a Black American. So, if either of you were as wise as you think you are you all should be looking for your own prophet and not other people's prophets.

For these reasons are why I referred to all Black Americans as knuckleheads and the most ignorant people in this country.

Thursday, December 15th 2011 at 4:39PM
Harry Watley
Jake and also Gary, just ignore me...I have this habit of going above and beyond talking points to trying to fully understand new things. so, I shall leave now before I begin to sould like I am on the attack or on teh defensive, because I am only into trying to get proper educations so I can fully understand by way of unchanging / objective info. (smile)

Wonderful blog Jake...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
Here is another example of why I reject taking out of history what one wants and leaving out whay they don't...the native-Americans were putinto chatel slavery long before we were...the native-americans had part of theier daily lives taking slavea and becoming slaves, but when the whiteman tried their brand of slavery the Native-Americans willed themselves to die...

aND, YES there is lots of lots of generations after generations of Africans coming to America as indentured servants just like they came from europe as and no we did not come here to work in cotton, but first in south america in teh cane fields and america in the deep south in rice not cotton. (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
No Jake, I am not into trying to change any form of teaching moments, I have learned these things my self. example...

do you ever watcha program called Naked Archelogy? It is hosted by an Isrealie, Jew talking about their history, oral history and from things the Jewish scholars find...any way they said that the greatest problem they had with King David is his love for foreigh women...I forget now if Batsheba was objected to because she was from Iran or Afganistan. (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
...and, no I would not be offended if someone called my grandmother a witch doctor as it is up from calling women who treated illnes without chemicals are still called today, witches .lol. (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
@Jake, I would like for you to help me with something you say quite often...No, this is not an attackonly someting objectively...

My grand mother was a medcine woman and Native-American and I have studied Native-American history from their centered facts and oral history as intently as I have studied my african centered history...and in not one of my classes, books or talk with Native _americans have I ever heard from them about any religion except MOTHER NAtURE or Natural things, be it myths as this is how they talk about their religion...

so how does it seem the Native-Americans of somany family as hey don't call themselves tribes...(TRIBE to them means demeaning much like ***** is to us)have missed out on this O-N-E, creator / God, ect. (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
@JAKE, TELL YOUR SWEETIE, i HAVE SOME OLD TIME SWITCHES THAT is guranteed to work even those thoughts from forming in his head. lol...Jake, is seem like she is shy and soft spoken and yes so happy.(smile)

Jen, it seem you and I are the only ones here from the deep south...did you ever have to go get your own switches to get your spanking...if you pickeed a big one it was going to hurt, if you got a thin one it was going to sting much worst...decissions, decission, decessions, but we always ended up laughing every time wehhad to do this task. (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
...speaking of things changing...it use to be marriage / devorce could be tied to is it a boy or a girl and man coulld have many wives because the land was devided among the males and the oldest male could have his cake and more of teh land also...

virgin birth was the in...but today, women have rights and women can even have Virgin births and they can even design their children...so maye one day we will just settle for the egg and the seprm is needed for the continuation of life in mankind...any thing is possiable if we accept facts and responsiability for our own action and we have free will. (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
QUESTION...
DOES ANY OF THIS MEAN TEH DEFINITION OF M-A-R-R-I-A-G-E HAS CHANGED????
OR IS THIS ONLY MORE OF SHOWING EXPERTEES OF CHANGING THE FACTS TO FIT THE SITUTATION OF THE MOMENT?


YES, "I" AM ALWAYS PROUD TO SEE THOSE WHO IGNORE FACTS, TRUTH ,BECAUSE IT IS STILL A 'TEACHING MOMENT' ANY TIME WE LOOK AT SOMETHING COMING FROM TEH OPPOSITE SIDE...IT IS CALLED L-E-A-R-N-I-N-G SOMETHING NEW. (SMILE)

GREAT DIALOGUE BLOG SAINT...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
@My beautiful almost perfect daughter...how dare you bring such shame on me by trying to pretend you believe Black women have working brains like they are members of the human race that actually can make their own choices in life...!!!!!!!!!!!!...

and, to make matters worst trying to act like we the Black woman is complete without a MAN, any man as long as he marry us even if only for being their s*x slaves/ objects !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (rotf) (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
@Kim, you were not on the site and since Jen may have forgotten even writting on the site about she knows nothing about her husband, like what nationality he is...but she as she says here it is all about the marriage(and divorce is not allowed evan in the Catholic religion (well if you are poor, ect.)

and @Jen, I know you are so happy for Mrs. Cain, because it is all about that piece of paper and nothing about self pride, self respect...so you will hae to take back all of what you have said in backong Mrs. Cain as it is all about being married before a certain age, right...and see I never brought up religion now did I just about marrigae and never being able to divorce, right?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!? bakc (rotf) (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
Hello, anyone out there???? (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
@Jake, please are you saying that you are the first one to come up with the part about marrying for the reaons you give for your decission to marry...making a verbal vow to the one you marry???...that you will not be having a marrage liscense provided by man as your state saying you are legally married...

just like all others in tis country dispite being different than your religion or your belief on marriage????

JUST WONDERING BECAUSE AS A CATHOLIC I DID THIS...AS A BUDDHIST, I DID THIS...AT THE WEDDING OF MY MORMON FRIEND A FEW WEEKS BACK THEY DID THIS AND FOR THE SAME REASONS AS JUST STATED BY YOU JAKE IS ONLY WHY i ASK THIS...NOT JUST OF YOU BUT OF ANYONE ELSE WHO DID MARRIEGE FOR NOT THESE REASONS...OOPS AND EVEN THOUGH I WENT TO A SEDDING IN JAIL MANY YEAR SBACK OF A COUPLE WH HAD BEEN TOGATHER FOR YEARS AN D HAD THREE CHILDREN AND THEY ONLY AND THEY DID ADMIT THEY WOULD NOT BE GETTING MARRIED IF HE WAS NOT GOING OFF TO PRISON FOR 5 YEARS SO THEY MUST GET MARRIED IF THEY WANTED TO STILL FUNCTION AS A FAMILY AS THEY HAD ALL THESE YEARS. (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
@Gary,,,if we look at what Jake says, and some of what you just said...does it even matter if the femal has a say in any of this or not?!?

It seem the only person with the right to not be treated as an 'object' as in being a possession of another person to do as they see fit with...or maybe it is just too much like being chatel slaves only this was making male and femal objects for some man to do as they pleased with????

AS MOZELL WOULD SAY, "JUST THINKING" LOL!!! (S-M-I-L-E)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
@Gary do you mean our original God's like Legbar and MAAT???? The one that most people who knock on wood...baptize yet still have nO knowlege of therefore would IGNORE also as far as talking about THE ORIGINAL MAN AND WOMAN???!!!?(smile)

OVER AN DOUT...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
...AND, AS i LEAVE...JAKE WHAT YOU SAID OF E 10: 13-22 IS THE EXACT THINGS BEING USED BY THOSE LIKE CAIN AND NEWT AND THE 1%ER AND HAVE BEEN QUOTING SINCE LONG BEFORE USING IT FROM IN SLAVERY TO TODAY...AND, IT IS STILL WORKING AS GOOD AS EVER...

ME, "I" AM NOT MEEK, DON'T WANT TO HAVE THE EARTH NOR POWER OVER ANYONE BY FEAR, THREATS OF NOT BEING ACCEPTED BY ANY MAN WOMAN CHILD, OR BELIEFS..."I" AM UNIQUE AND THIS MAEKES ME DIFFERENT AND EVEN DIFECIENT, BUT IT MAKES ME HAPPY, SAFE AND SECURE AND WITH NO T
ONE BIT OF DOUBT OF MY OWN LIMITLESS POWERS TO KEEP MY LIFE LIKE THIS.AS IT HAS WORKED FOR 69 YEARS SO FAR "I" WOULD NOT BE FOOL ENOUGH TO CHANGE IT NOW!!! (SMILE)

"I"...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
It is so funny that people say marriage shoud only be after marriage...and you should be married if you have children by taht person...

so what do we do or do some religions still require the man to give his wife those papers when she can not bare children/ don't bare a son...I remember the king or sha taht some in america are stillupset because Iran kicked him out like they do today as a way of life...got rid of his american wife and sent her packing back to the states when she did not give him a son...

so back to women being picky or do we have this all backwards?????????????

NOw how many men on this blog can say they have never had any s*xual relations with a female...or that they male or female have only had s*x with one person in their whole life?????

STAND UP AND BECOUNTED...NO NOT TO BE HONEST WITH ME( I COULD CARE LESS) ,BUT TO YOUR OWN SELF. (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
Jake, "I" only seek information and as I am stilll learing from you about your faith...from what you just said, "I" ask you this...

MOST RELIGIONS AND PEOPLEOF THE FAITHS SAY TAHT THEIR GOD / CREATOR, ECT...CREATED ALL...DOES YOU RELIGION SAY SOMETHING LIKE THIS OR THAT ONLY SOME WERE CREATED BY THEM? AND THOSE LIKE NEWT AND EVEN ME WERE CREATED BY SOMEONE ELSE??????????? (SMILE)

I ASK BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE WE ARE ALL BORN WITH ONLY TOOLS FOR SURVIVAL AS IN CRYING AS THE FIRST AND ONLY LANGUAGE FOR COMMUNICATION TO THE CARE GIVER WITHOUT M-A-N MADE SOCIAL CONDITIONSRULES REGULATIONS OR LAWS, ECT....(SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
...OOPS, THIS MAY BE TPTA;;Y OFF TOPIC, BECAUSE HERE BLACK WOMEN R-U-L-E AND CAN BE PICKY, BUT DON'T SEEM TO EVEN MIND NOR THE MALES WHEN YOU NEED TO BE FED AND DIPER CHANGED SO YOU CAN GROW UP AND CLAIM SUPERIORITY AS WE A-L-L-O-W YOU TO DO.... (ROTFL) (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
We live In a world where promiscuity, STDs, and unwanted pregnancies are on the rise, and I think it's wonderful that Sister Lockhart is being open about her decision. I think anyone who holds their body and their futures in this high regard should be applauded. waited a pretty long time myself before getting married, that was my personal choice and it had nothing to do with religious beliefs. I believe in saving yourself for the right person, a man that you can trust and not just have s*x with whatever man looks your way. There's nothing wrong with being picky, your body is a temple and should be treated like a temple, your body is a gift from God, you don't just let anyone touch it. People like Jen Fad should grow up. She sounds like one of those welfare hoodrats that has multiple kids with Ray-Ray around the corner. That's why she comment on this blog to state her asinine opinions.
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