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Could be of Egyptian, paganPharoahnic origin
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The prayer of the Muslim is ORDERED by the Creator of Adaam(as);to be valid, that it be with COMPLETE Cleanliness.
The following Hadeeth in the Sunnah of Mohamed(saw) should be read and understood by all that adhere to the Principles of AlIslaam
The Book on Salutations and Greetings (Kitab As-Salam)
Muslim :: Book 26 : Hadith 5577
Abu Huraira reported Allaah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as sayings: A person suffered from intense thirst while on a journey, when he found a well. He climbed down into it and drank (water) and then came out and saw a dog lolling its tongue on account of thirst and eating the moistened earth. The person said: This dog has suffered from thirst as I had suffered from it. He climbed down into the well, filled his shoe with water, then caught it in his mouth until he climbed up and made the dog drink it. So Allaah appreciated this act of his and pardoned him. Then (the Companions around him) said: Allaah's Messenger, is there for us a reward even for (serving) such animals? He said: Yes, there is a reward for service to every living animal.
Ablutions (Wudu')
Bukhari :: Book 1 :: Volume 4 :: Hadith 173
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle said, "If a dog drinks from the utensil of anyone of you it is essential to wash it seven times."
Hunting, Slaughtering
Bukhari :: Book 7 :: Volume 67 :: Hadith 389
Narrated Ibn 'Umar:
The Prophet said, "Whoever keeps a (pet) dog which is neither a watch dog nor a hunting dog, will get a daily deduction of two Qirat from his good deeds."
Ablutions (Wudu')
Bukhari :: Book 1 :: Volume 4 :: Hadith 175
Narrated 'Adi bin Hatim:
I asked the Prophet (about the hunting dog) and he replied, "If you let loose (with Allaah's name) your tamed dog after a game and it hunts it, you may eat it, but if the dog eats of (that game) then do not eat it because the dogg has hunted it for itself." I further said, "Sometimes I send my dog for hunting and find another dog with it. He said, "Do not eat the game for you have mentioned Allah's name only on sending your dog and not the other dog."
As the Prophet of The Creator of Adaam(saw) shows the BELIEVER above, the dog is to be cared for as any of the Creatures Allaah has created, but also the Prayer is SO important to the BELIEVER that ALL men know the dog is many times, licking itself, eating bad things SO when the 2012 BELIEVER is touched by a DOG, he or she, will wash the CLOTHES and SELF ---- SEVEN times ---- before one PRAYS to the Creator of Adaam(as)
Muslims 2012 generally do not keep Dogs, unless for security or war..............
there is much more Scholarship but time is short
Wednesday, September 26th 2012 at 9:02AM
powell robert
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Steve, I happen to own two dogs and I have a Muslim friend who works in a veterinary clinic. We as Muslims are allowed to keep dogs as guard dogs but not for the sake of being just a "pet".
Now as far as being clean before prayer is concerned, whether you touch a dog or don't touch a dog you should cleanse before touching the Holy book and also be clean/well-groomed in prayer for God.
Also, I have read the Qu'ran completely and no where in the Quran does it say if a dog, cat, or any other animal touches you you are prohibitied from offering prayer for a certain number of days. Therefore if it does not say it in the Qu'ran then where did your Egyptian friend get that information?
Wednesday, September 26th 2012 at 11:52AM
Siebra Muhammad
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Thank you very much Robert for the Hadeeth (is that the plural?) they are very helpful. The person in question is someone my niece is seeing, I have not met him personally but she has always had pet Shelties and it is apparently a problem between them. Shelties I guess could be considered guard dogs, but I don't think that is why she keeps them.
Wednesday, September 26th 2012 at 12:29PM
Steve Williams
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And thank you Siebra. The question is not necessarily where he got his information, but perhaps where my mother, a Christian, got hers. She seems to disapprove (and perhaps his parents do also); as an example, she thought he prayed to Buddha. When I said no, he prayed to Allaah, she said oh, those are the Hindus. In other words she knows nothing of any religion but her own. So the 45 day business might have been a corruption on her part.
Wednesday, September 26th 2012 at 12:39PM
Steve Williams
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Oh and Robert, I did take the opportunity to point out to her that Islaam is Monotheistic, whereas her religion is not.
Wednesday, September 26th 2012 at 12:43PM
Steve Williams
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Hello Steve,
Let's do some critical thinking here. You're asking a question concerning the practice of Islam. Who better can answer your question Steve except a devout Arab person and not those to dumb ass impostors? Siebra is not an Arab woman. Robert Powell is not an Arab man. When you want a reliable answer you go straight to the source and in this case the source would be an Arab born person because since Mohammed was an Arab prophet he came only to the Arabian people. Do you understand me?
Wednesday, September 26th 2012 at 5:41PM
Harry Watley
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again,
The MUSLIM believes AlQur'aan and the Sunnah of Mohamed(saw)
siebra, selfProfessed NON BELIEVER of the Sunnah of Mohamed(saw) KNOWS as much about AlIslaam as mitt the mormon..............she is a DOG owner
NONE of the 2 BILLION Muslims in the WORLD 2012
---- would offer Prayer to Allaah, after touching a DOG------UNLESS --- he/she took 7 Cleansings as Mohamed(saw) ordered AND Mohamed(saw) was the Human Condition of AlQur'aan and was the Living AlQur'aan for the Family of Adaam(as)
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if the one who seeks History, Scholarship and History --- i can surely continue at great lenght --- so i include just a few Parts of AlQur'aan:
Sûrat AlAhqâaf
(The Curved Sand-hills-twisted weakness) (XLVI)
In the Name of Allâah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful
1. Hâ-Mîm.
2. The revelation of AlQur’âan is from Allâah, the All-Mighty, the All-Wise.
3. We created the heavens and the earth and all that is between them with Truth, and for an appointed term. But those who disbelieve turn away from that whereof they are warned.
4. Say Mohamed to these pagans: "Think about all that you invoke besides Allâah?
Show me. What have they created of the earth? Or have they a share in the Creation of the heavens? Bring me a Book revealed before this, or some trace of knowledge in support of your claims, if you are Truthful!"
5. Who is more astray than one who invokes others; than Allâah?
Others that may not answer him till the Day of Resurrection, and who are even unaware of their calls and invocations ?
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Sûrat Fussilat
(They are Explained in detail) XLI
In the Name of Allâah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful
1. Hâ-Mîm.
2. A revelation from Allâah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
3. A Book where the Verses are explained in detail - AlQur’âan in Arabic for people who know.
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Sûrat AzZumar
(The Different Groups, Communities) XXXIX
In the Name of Allâah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful
1. The revelation of AlQur’âan is from Allâah, the All-Mighty, the All-Wise.
2. We have sent down AlQur'aan to you Mohamed in truth: So worship Allâah (Alone) by doing righteous deeds sincerely for Allâah’s sake only.
3. AdDeen of worship and obedience is for Allâah only. Those who take Auliyâ’ (idols, lords, gods, intermediators) besides Him say: "We worship them so that they may bring us near to Allâah." Allâah will judge between them concerning their differences. Allâah does not guide a liar, and a disbeliever.
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Sûrat Ash-Shûra
(The Consultation) XLII
In the Name of Allâah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful
16. Those who dispute concerning Allâah and Faith of Monotheism with which Mohamed Õáì Çááå Úáíå æ Óáã has been sent, after it has been accepted by the people, of no use or value is their dispute before their Rabb(Lord) and on them is wrath, and for them will be a severe torment.
and to the pagans that dispute the words of Allaah--------
THE FAMILY --- 2012 ----of the deceased ElijahMuhammad(may Allaah have Mercy on Us All and Accept Our Niyat)--- say that he was NOTHING in the HISTORY, SCHOLARSHIP and SCIENCE of AlISLAAM...........and the Sunnah of Mohamed(saw)
Wednesday, September 26th 2012 at 8:42PM
powell robert
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Brother Gary, you are 1000% CORRECT!
I’ve had similar conversations with Muslims whose religious ideals were so outrageously hilarious that it took AN ACT OF CONGRESS to keep me from bursting out in laughter. Mathematics and science kills ignorance instantly, that is why I have so much respect for the Supreme Wisdom teachings of our Messenger Elijah Muhammad. A wise scientist of Islam would never condemn you of 45 days of “dog cooties” simply because of a dog lick.
Speaking of ignorance, if you have a black dog named “Tyrone” or “Andre”, read the following hadith quotes. According to the following, Muslims should kill black dogs simply BECAUSE they are black! DAMN, and I thought Black people had it bad.
Hadith 2839 wrote:Abu Dawud Book 10. Game
Chapter : To have a dog for hunting and some other purposes.
Narated By Abdullah ibn Mughaffal : The Prophet (pbuh) said: Were dogs not a species of creature I should command that they all be killed; but kill every pure black one.
-Abu Dawud Book 010, Hadith Number 2839
Link: http://www.hadithcollection.com/abudawu ... -2839.html
Hadith 1032 wrote:Sahih Muslim Book 04. Prayer
Chapter : The excellence of the prayer and the way it is begun and the excellence of Ruku' and moderation in it and prostration and moderation in it, etc.
Abu Dharr reported: The Messenger of 'Allah (may peace be upon him) said: When any one of you stands for prayer and there is a thing before him equal to the back of the saddle that covers him and in case there is not before him (a thing) equal to the back of the saddle, his prayer would be cut off by (passing of an) a$$, woman, and black Dog. I said: O Abu Dharr, what feature is there in a black dog which distinguish it from the red dog and the yellow dog? He said: O, son of my brother, I asked the Messenger of Allah(may peace be upon him) as you are asking me, and he said: The black dog is a devil.
-Sahih Muslim Book 004, Hadith Number 1032
Link: http://www.hadithcollection.com/sahihmu ... -1032.html
Hadith 2840 wrote:Abu Dawud Book 10. Game
Chapter : To have a dog for hunting and some other purposes.
Narated By Jabir ibn Abdullah : The Prophet of Allah (pbuh) ordered to kill dogs, and we were even killing a dog which a woman brought with her from the desert. Afterwards he forbade to kill them, saying: Confine yourselves to the type which is black.
-Abu Dawud Book 010, Hadith Number 2840
Link: http://hadithcollection.com/abudawud/24 ... -2840.html
DAYUM! Imagine practicing racism against black dogs. And to think some Sunni Muslims are mad at the followers of the NOI for refusing to follow cultural ignorance. I’ll be damned if I tell people that they’ll get the 45-day “dog cooties” if ever they are licked by a pooch. Imagine telling Black people that black dogs are the devil and that they should all be killed BECAUSE they are black. The next time I get cursed at by “Robert Powell”, the Negro Sunni Sucker, I’m going to remind him of this stupid hadith that require the killing of black dogs BECAUSE they happen to be black.
In terms of cleanliness and sanitation, dogs should not be allowed into the home or environment since their filthy habits can spread contamination and cause illness. We must remember that dogs will lick and/or chew on anything including garbage, feces and they lick their own bodies and the bodies of other animals. The idea of making salaat prayer is to be able to interact with the Supreme Being in a clean environment in a clean state of mind and body. The presence of dogs makes this requirement impossible. That is why they should remain outside.
Nowadays, it is popular among Caucasians to bring their dogs into restaurants, bookstores, grocery stores, etc. Whites bring their filthy animals around without concern for health and standards of cleanliness. I’ve seen silly white women sip soup and grab fruits and vegetables at health food stores while hiding their pets in a basket. Animal presence kills the idea of a clean health food store or restaurant as the profit-crazed management refuses to enforce an animal-free policy.
So it is not just a religious requirement to have the environment free of animals, it should be enforced within all social areas to reduce the spread of contamination and illness.
Thursday, September 27th 2012 at 10:26AM
Siebra Muhammad
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thank you siebra for the hadeeth of RasulAllaah, they are valid as many more are.....
siebra, noMuslima, there is nothing about a 45 day christian Silliness or your other paganChristian, colorWorship, 'black'People comments! ---- all dogs are 'black', bleak, and filthy animals that lick their own arses and eat dead................
well anyone that has ever lived in Egypt KNOWS that every 2-3 months the desert DOGS that had come into the city are Killed by the Garbage Men, to keep the city clean.
now the siebra that says she Believes Our Father Elijah, says what?
every elijah Noi2012---- believes that Yacoob made the Pig from a rat, cat and DOG(robertPowell nor the family of elijah2012 believe)
.....and siebra is a DOG owner...........LOVER?
WOW, what a Nonsense kingJameser.................!
the Muslim Believer of AlQur'aan and the Sunnah of Mohamed(saw) --2012---will wash 7 times before Prayer to Allaah if one has touched a dog, pig, .............even if they touch an item that is touched, licked by a dog, pig .........
Thursday, September 27th 2012 at 9:30PM
powell robert
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Truth B. you are amazing....thanks for reminding us all that it's not just our bodies that needs a good cleaning before prayer. All the bodily cleaning in the world don't mean a thing if your heart and mind remains polluted!
Thursday, September 27th 2012 at 10:11PM
Siebra Muhammad
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OH MY wait let me get off the floor ,,ok ,,,that is the truth !....lol to highest !
Thursday, September 27th 2012 at 11:00PM
DAVID JOHNSON
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Well Robert, I can see why this Egyptian fellow would not want to live in a house with dogs. He would inevitably be touching things that the dogs touched all the time, even if he didn't touch them, which is unlikely he could avoid. Thanks for the clarification.
Friday, September 28th 2012 at 1:23AM
Steve Williams
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Hello Harry,
As this inquiry concerns an Egyptian man, it rather makes the point that it is belief that matters, not ethnicity.
Friday, September 28th 2012 at 1:27AM
Steve Williams
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Steve,
That was the Subject and I pray that you have an Islaamic clarification..........
as for the kingBS toldSiebra ---- they are everywhere but with Education........
AND the Love of bigBlack dogs and the mess on their feet, got bsWilliams and the rest of the kingLANY crowd out?
Friday, September 28th 2012 at 8:56AM
powell robert
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Very good. I do believe we are ready for Harry's Subject now.
Friday, September 28th 2012 at 11:16AM
Steve Williams
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Evidently the responses from Gray, Truth B. Told, and I touched a nerve in Robert because he commented back by going into a subject way off the topic. Robert's reaction is just like those wild Sunni Muslims from the middle east. I’m surprised he hasn’t strapped a bomb to himself in the cause of jihad...LOL
Any reasonable minded adult can see that Truth B. Told's response is just simply what many would call satire. He's using wit, irony, and sarcasm to discredit and expose the hypocrisy of religion.
The brother was not suggesting that we should not wash and bathe ourselves, don’t be that stupid. He's is just trying to point out the fact that many so-called Muslims have developed an obsessive compulsive behavior or OCD. This is an anxiety disorder which includes symptoms of excessive washing or cleaning; repeated checking; extreme hoarding; preoccupation with destructive, violent or religious thoughts; I think this would be a fair analysis of the Muslim World today.
If a little poodle come up to me and lick my hand, I’m not going to have a heart attack and take 20 baths and 40 showers while begging Allah for forgiveness. I will just get some soap or hand sanitizer and water and wash my hands. Simple as that.
Thursday, October 4th 2012 at 11:29AM
Siebra Muhammad
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amen to that sister! Understand, it’s not about how many prayer rituals you perform on the daily basis, but it’s all about the remembrance of Allah and your duty!
Don’t forget that I’m the cleanest MF'er on the planet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=playe...
Thursday, October 4th 2012 at 11:33AM
Truth B. Told
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you guys are so right Robert does have OCD . OCD sufferers exhibit what is known as overvalued ideas. In such cases, the person with OCD will truly be uncertain whether the fears that cause them to perform their compulsions are irrational or not. After some discussion, it is possible to convince the individual that their fears may be unfounded. It may be more difficult to do ERP therapy on such patients because they may be unwilling to cooperate, at least initially. For this reason OCD has often been likened to a disease of pathological doubt, in which the sufferer, though not usually delusional, is often unable to realize fully which dreaded events are reasonably possible and which are not.[citation needed] There are severe cases in which the sufferer has an unshakeable belief in the context of OCD that is difficult to differentiate from psychosis!
Robert i got this jacket i want you to try on ,lets see here is the pic and link to order ,,,,,
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=s...
Thursday, October 4th 2012 at 12:18PM
DAVID JOHNSON
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Hello to All,
No Siebra, I don't think you touched Robert's nerve at all. You all are a bit more ignorant than Robert is.
Robert is telling you all the true and absolute religion of Islam instituted by Prophet Mohammed. Robert is giving you all real Islam because he is coming from the Quran, the Sunnah and Hadeeth of the Prophet Mohammed.
You all are coming from your own dumb ideas and things you heard and making it into Islam. You all are stupid. I have not read from any of you all quotes from the Quran, Hadeeth or Sunnah of the Prophet Mohammed. But, Robert quotes Hadeeth to you all and you all still run up against Robert with nothing in hand to at belief say that you all have some sort of sense and knowledge about Islam is unbelievable. You all are very much stupid it
Even Elijah Muhammad spoke about dogs licking you and that dogs should not be living in your house with you.
Consequentially, I see that you all a responding to everything but the question that was asked. The question is about a dog licking an Egyptian and he is not able to pray to Allah for 45 days.
If you all are really interested in the truth concerning real Islam and this licking dog deal I would pay attention to Robert. Since I am a Black American it doesn't matter to me and he should not matter to my people about the Islamic law of dog licking because Black Americans are not Arabian people.
Thursday, October 4th 2012 at 5:43PM
Harry Watley
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OK, some things to think about (Harry too, for giving Robert his due as a Scholar). But Truth B. Told, though I will sometimes use the shock value of "profanity", we may go further if we forego it. Do you think? (Not a rhetorical question.)
Friday, October 5th 2012 at 2:00AM
Steve Williams
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Hello Steve,
Let me share my assessment what you about you and generally speaking it is the same for the rest of BIA members.
None of you all can honestly and uprightly dialogue with each other because all of you think that you are smarter than each other. You all main interest is to show that you are smarter than the next BIA member and that means the gist and spirit of the subject of the conversation is never met because you all are trying to down and disagree with every good point made because you didn't make the point.
For instance, Steve there is nothing wrong about the laws of Islam about what you should do if a dog licks you. But, my question is. Do you really want to know Steve? Or, do you really want to see if you can catch somebody to outsmart them?
My second point is that I see you all do not like being called stupid. That is a good sign, psychologically speaking. It is not a good thing being stupid. My reply would be that if you do not like being called stupid then don't put you self in that position. But, again you are going to have a problem keeping yourself out of the position of stupid because you have the intent of trying to show off thinking that you all more intelligent but you are saying nothing intellectual.
When I see a shot I take it and there is nothing wrong with that. So, my advice to you is not to make yourself a target.
I don't waste my time thinking that I am smarter than any of you all. I put more time into thinking thoroughly through a topic and appoint that when I express myself no one can top me. In other words, I spend more of my time associating myself with the truth and the logic of the topic and since no one tops me I automatically will be recognized as smarter than any BIA member.
Another example, I said that no prophet except a Black American prophet can save and lead Black Americans this evil and dishonest condition of subjugation Black Americans were born into due to no fault of our own.
Now, the question would be is it logical that only a Black American prophet can save Black Americans. Of course, is damn right true!
Did not the Arabian people have an Arab prophet? Yes they did. Did not the children of Israel have an Israelite prophet? Yes, they did as well. So, how then use and divine logic that you all have problems believing that Black Americans must also have a Black American prophet? The only reason Black Americans would think differently is because Black Americans as been made spiritually stupid.
The spirit of all of you all is not too good. The good things that you all express hide your dirty inner selves.
So, if you're looking for the truth about dog licking I would go with Robert!
Friday, October 5th 2012 at 7:17AM
Harry Watley
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Well Harry, I did have a reason for really wanting to know about the Islaamic view of dogs, you can see why near the top of this thread. Yes, I did expect Robert to be the first to answer, however, your first response was that I should ask an Arabian, though I had put no restrictions on who should answer. Finally, I said, in so many words, that ideas, not persons, could be stupid. But you insist that persons are stupid. Stupid.
Friday, October 5th 2012 at 7:34AM
Steve Williams
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Sorry, the comment about persons vs. ideas being stupid was on another thread.
Friday, October 5th 2012 at 7:41AM
Steve Williams
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So now we are on Harry's Subject, the matching of Race and Prophet. You mention four prophets, most of the time, two Judean, one Arabian, and one Black American. What has God given the rest of us?
Friday, October 5th 2012 at 7:46AM
Steve Williams
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thank you Steve
The SUBJECT was a item about AlIslaam..............
You allowed discourse And blocked or deleted NO ONE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
that is called Debate
i have never on BIA claimed scholar status, BUT i am olde and can READ............so i wrote from History, Scholarship and Science of AlQur'aan and Sunnah of Mohamed(saw)
the BIA Blockers and Deleters of TRUTH, siebraBSKing wrote on NOTHING...............as they ALWAYS are against Debate, to reach History, Scholarship and Science of AlQur'aan and Sunnah --- they are NO different than the slavers and other RACIST IGNORANCE.
AND as i normally do not Agree with Harry ---- thank you harry
yes, harry, i AS a MUSLIM, have only to Accept ---yourWriting of: "But, Robert quotes Hadeeth to you all and you all still run up against Robert with nothing in hand to at belief say that you all have some sort of sense and knowledge about Islam is unbelievable. You all are very much stupid it"
i live by a History, Scholarship and Science that is begun with the Belief of the Creator of Adaam(as)---AS:
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Sûrat AlBaqarah
(The Cow) II
In the Name of Allâah,the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful
1. Alif-Lâm-Mîm
2. This is AlQur’âan, there is no doubt, a guidance to those who are AlMuttaqûn [the pious believers of Monotheism who fear Allâah and abstain from all kinds of sins and evil deeds which He has forbidden and love Allâah by performing all kinds of good deeds which He has ordained)].
3. Who believe in the Ghaib and perform AsSalât (Iqâmat-AsSalât), and spend out of what We have provided for them, give Zakât, spend on themselves, their parents, their children, their wives, and also give charity to the poor and also in Allâah’s Cause.
4. And who believe in AlQur’âan and the Sunnah which has been revealed to Mohamed and in that which was sent down before you AtTaurât (Torah) and AlInjeel (Gospel), and belief with certainty; the Hereafter or Resurrection, recompense, a payment for their good and bad deeds, Paradise or Hell.
and yes STEVE the siebraBAKingNothing but FRAUD group----have posts for Stupidity and Racst Hate, that is why they are as frightened children to AlIslaam and the Sunnah of Mohamed(saw)
Friday, October 5th 2012 at 8:52AM
powell robert
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Robert,
Only a scholar could convey the wisdom of AlIslaam.
I am grateful.
Friday, October 5th 2012 at 9:31AM
Steve Williams
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To tell a muslim that their prayers are not acceptable just because they may have touched an animal during prayer time is outright silly. Come on yall, idiots like Robert Powell got a million reasons why our prayers is not valid.
This is just the tip of the iceberg, I could go on and on with examples of how some of the so-called Islamic customs, rituals, beliefs, and traditions are leaning towards Excessive compulsive behavior.
Case in point a lot of Muslims (women in particular) will cover their entire body including their face, when they leave their homes. This is a form of extremism. To neglect the human body and give it no sunlight is a crime within itself.
I'm not suggesting that they take off all their clothes and run around naked..lol .
I'm simply saying a moderate dress code is good enough to please Allah you feel me?
Friday, October 5th 2012 at 10:44AM
Truth B. Told
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Truth B Told ,,you words of wisdom and your knowledge is impeccable THANKS BRO.!
Friday, October 5th 2012 at 11:39AM
DAVID JOHNSON
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Truth B. Told,
We should always listen to the Messengers.
We mortals may or may not get the Spirit of the Message. But that does not invalidate the Message.
The Message far supersedes customs.
God retains control.
Friday, October 5th 2012 at 11:58AM
Steve Williams
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THE BLOG KING DAVID JOHNSON SR wrote:
"Truth B Told ,,you words of wisdom and your knowledge is impeccable THANKS BRO.!"
Likewise my brother!
Steve Williams wrote:
"Truth B. Told,
We should always listen to the Messengers.
We mortals may or may not get the Spirit of the Message. But that does not invalidate the Message.
The Message far supersedes customs.
God retains control."
Thank you, now you and I have established a common ground, I know that there are a lot of unauthenic hadiths out that have all kinds of craziness in them that some muslims may mistake for being authentic. It's most definitely not in Quran but the Quran is only one part of what muslims follow emulating the sunnah of Prophet Muhammad.
I always like the story about the dog who knew when it was time to say the noon prayer...lol
Most Muslims abhor dogs, but this dog must have been acceptable in a Muslim family.
Friday, October 5th 2012 at 12:22PM
Truth B. Told
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Common ground is a good thing. I think it is the best thing we can hope for.
Friday, October 5th 2012 at 12:44PM
Steve Williams
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Hello to All,
Siebra, Truth B Told, David Johnson, Gary Williams and Robert Powell responded in a direct way to the question asked concerning dog licking.
Out of the five that responded Robert Powell was the only one to have his ducks in a row and the only one qualify to answer the question especially since he has backup material while the others do not.
Analytically and logically speaking you are presented with a choice. Would you accept answers from the four knuckleheads or would you accept the answer that Robert Powell gave backed up by Hadeeth, Sunnah and Quran? Robert knows more than the other four knuckleheads know about Arabian history, culture, ways and religious beliefs.
Since I am an analytical and rational thinker I would bet my money on Robert having the right answers rather than those other four knuckleheads that came to the table with no backup material. All that they were expressing was smoke out of there ass.
So, Steve are you satisfied with Roberts answer?
Friday, October 5th 2012 at 3:59PM
Harry Watley
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thanks Steve
and harry, i must say you write another true statement above.....
i apologize steve ahead for the dogPoo understanding, i dragged in with the biaKingsiebra nom deCartoon --- bsBTOLD---- IGNORANCE and lack of READING comprehension
NO WHERE IN MY writing ABOVE did I write that the prayer of an individual is granted or NOT....that is ONLY the WILL OF ALLAAH, AlKhalaq, AlBari --- Rabbee...........
i conveyed only the words of AlQur'aan and the Sunnah of Mohamed(saw) as relates to the SUBJECT of this Blog:
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in the INITIAL comment; I WROTE that I, robertPowell, a servant of the Creator of Adaam(as) --- who asks the Mercy of ArRahmaan, AlAli, AlMaleekAlQudoos ONLY-------based on AlQur'aan and Sunnah of Mohamed(saw) and History, Scholarship and Science----I--WROTE:
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"As the Prophet of The Creator of Adaam(saw) shows the BELIEVER above, the dog is to be cared for as any of the Creatures Allaah has created, but also the Prayer is SO important to the BELIEVER that ALL men know the dog is many times, licking itself, eating bad things SO when the 2012 BELIEVER is touched by a DOG, he or she, will wash the CLOTHES and SELF ---- SEVEN times ---- before one PRAYS to the Creator of Adaam(as)"
Muslims 2012 generally do not keep Dogs, unless for security or war..............
there is much more Scholarship but time is short
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the Author STEVE, then responded that my writing had helped him understand, what "i" would NEVER do, not pray for 45 days(maybe the man did not want to clean 7 times??? or had no water????--- but AlIslaam thru AlQur'aan and the Sunnah of Mohamed(saw) allows the BELIEVER to tap the EARTH -- 7 Times if no water is avaliable
AlIslaam thru AlQur'aan and the Sunnah of Mohamed(saw) is VERY practical...............
BUT
the antiIslaamic Racist, colorWorshipping SIMPLE crowd---the negroStereotypical nonREADERS, noComprehending group(biaKingsiebra nom deCartoon bsBTOLD,) and she/he/it-their paganChristian slavery idea started...taking the Subject back into ghetto...................
I Pray that they, she/he/it; or anyone learn something, sometime for the benefit of the Family of Adaam(as)
Friday, October 5th 2012 at 5:16PM
powell robert
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Yes Harry, I am quite satisfied with Robert' answer, and in fact passed it on to my mother, for her understanding.
Friday, October 5th 2012 at 7:31PM
Steve Williams
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I must add Harry, this man my niece is seeing, he being an Egyptian, takes Allaah's Messenger as his prophet. And I can find no fault whatsoever with his Faith.
Friday, October 5th 2012 at 7:40PM
Steve Williams
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With the understanding that this 45 day business was in all likelihood a corruption during the transmission from him to my niece to my mother to me.
Friday, October 5th 2012 at 7:44PM
Steve Williams
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I know there is the 40 day no-prayer rule which actually applies to Muslims who consume alcoholic beverages.
In one hadith, Allah's Messenger said, "If anyone drinks wine Allah will not accept prayer from him for forty days, but if he repents Allah will forgive him. If he repeats the offence Allah will not accept prayer from him for forty days, but if he repents Allah will forgive him. If he again repeats the offence Allah will not accept prayer from him for forty days, but if he repents Allah will forgive him. If he repeats it a fourth time Allah will not accept prayer from him for forty days, and if he repents Allah will not forgive him, but will give him to drink of the river of the fluid flowing from the inhabitants of Hell."
Friday, October 5th 2012 at 10:04PM
Siebra Muhammad
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So if a Muslim consumes alcohol, Allah will not accept prayer from them for 40 days, the reason 40 days were specified is because alcohol is said to stay in the body, the veins, and the nerves for this amount of time. Even though it may not show up in a blood or pre-employment drug test.
Friday, October 5th 2012 at 10:12PM
Siebra Muhammad
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Thank you Siebra, that probably explains it. I would not be surprised if this was confused with the issue of the dogs, would not be surprised at all.
Friday, October 5th 2012 at 10:13PM
Steve Williams
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Hello to All,
Steve, a couple of things I need to mention.
Firstly, you say that you are satisfied with Robert's answer. Having an IQ of 68 I still have enough wisdom, common sense and good reasoning why I would gravitate to what Robert is saying over the other for knuckleheads since Robert was the only one to back himself up with Quran, Hadeeth and Sunnah.
I do not ascribe to the Islamic religion because neither my people nor I are Arabs. Therefore, as Black America's first genuine prophet obviously what I get from God will be different from what the Jews got and what the Arabs got. Since, Black Americans are neither Arabs nor Jews we will not be following their ethnical guidelines. Black Americans expect to have our own ethnical guidelines from God as the Jews and Arabians.
Secondly, I feel that you needed to be straightforward with Siebra and let her know in hard-core English that the question was not about dog licking and not about alcohol.
Lastly, you are trying to make the point that it is okay for this Egyptian to accept Allah's messenger as his prophet and that you can find no fault in his faith.
Okay, I will respond to your stupid ass again and as many times as deem necessary.
Firstly, it is obvious to see that the Egyptian is a knucklehead accepting and Arabian prophet and he is not Arab.
Secondly, you said you find no fault in his faith. Of course, there is no fault in the Islamic faith. But, it is not the faith of the Egyptian we are talking about, right. We are talking about how stupid and ignorant he is accepting the faith of the people and he is not Arab. Am I making sense?
Thirdly, Mustafa Mohammed was not a messenger of Allah. Mustafa Mohammed was a prophet and not a messenger. Men have messengers, but only God have and anoints prophets.
Lastly, this is a personal question of my own to you Steve. Why do you suppose that prophets are racially different?
Saturday, October 6th 2012 at 7:37AM
Harry Watley
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sorry Steve, again the kids are off YOUR subject --- canines and prayer
BUT, a point of Scholarship is needed
siebras friend Mr. garyWilliams,
your own reference above of a comboKingJames--your"Reading" of quran? ------- PROVES-----
There is NO Islaamic or Truthful----"common sense" from the paganChristian negro's 1492-1864 Observation...............AS seen by your de*****ation above, you write, "on is own authority as Rasulallah he made the rule to ban drinking."
no --- to change the Words of Allaah is Demonic --- so do reRead for your benefit.....
your reference in AlQur'aan....
Sûrat Al-Mâ’idah
(The Table spread with Food, with nourishment) V
In the Name of Allâah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful
1. O you who believe! Fulfil Your obligations. Lawful to you are all the beasts of cattle except that which will be announced to you before, game being unlawful when you assume Ihrâm for Hajj or ‘Umrah (pilgrimage). Allâah, commands that which He wills.
90. O you who believe! Intoxicants or all kinds of alcoholic drinks, and gambling, and AlAnsâb[1], and AlAzlâm (arrows for seeking luck or decision) are an abomination of Shaitan’s (Satan) work. So avoid altogether that haram abomination in order that you may be successful.[2]
91. Shaitân (Satan) wants only to excite enmity and hatred between you with intoxicants; as, alcoholic drinks and gambling, and hinder you from the remembrance of Allâah, and from AsSalât (the prayer). So, will you not then abstain?
92. And obey Allâah, and the Messenger Mohamed Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã), and beware of even coming NEAR to drinking or gambling or AlAnsâb, or AlAzlâm, and fear Allâah. Then if you turn away, you should know that it is Our Messenger’s duty to convey the Message in the clearest way.
1] (V.5:90) Animals that are sacrificed (slaughtered) on AnNusub * and for the idols. Narrated ‘Abdullâh ÑÖí Çááå Úäå Allâh’s Messenger Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã said that he met Zaid bin ‘Amr bin Nufail at a place near Baldah and this had happened before Allâh’s Messenger Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã received the Divine Revelation. Allâh’s Messenger Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã presented a dish of meat (that had been offered to him by the pagans) to Zaid bin ‘Amr, but Zaid refused to eat of it and then said (to the pagans), "I do not eat of what you have sacrificed (slaughtered) on your stone-altars (Ansâb ) nor do I eat except that on which Allâah’s Name has been mentioned on slaughtering." (Sahih AlBukhâri, Vol.7, Hadîth No.407). [See also the footnote of (V.2:135)].
* An-Nusub were stone-altars at fixed places or graves, where sacrifices were slaughtered on certain occasions in the name of idols, jinn, angels, pious men, saints in order to honour them, or to expect some benefit from them.
[2] (V.5:90) What is Passed in History, regarding the one who regards an alcoholic drink lawful to drink, and calls it by ANOTHER name.
Narrated Abu ‘Aamir or Abu Mâlik AlAsh‘ari that he heard the ProphetÕáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã saying, "From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal s*xual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks, and the use of musical instruments as lawful. And some followers that will stay near the side of a mountain, and in the evening their shepherd will come to them with their sheep and ask them for something, but they will say to him, ‘Return to us tomorrow.’ Allâah will destroy them during the night and will let the mountain fall on them, and He will transform the rest of them into monkeys and pigs and they will remain so till the Day of Resurrection." (Sahih Al-Bukhâri, Vol.7, Hadîth No.494B)
Allaah only makes Haram, and Allaah does this above: AND Mohamed(saw) is AlQur'aan, as best Mankind can conceive, the greatest of the Creation
...........and Allaah did not create a 'whiteMan' or a 'blackMan'.......that also is an abomination of Shaitan, to cause striff between the Family of Adaam(as) --- that idol---colorWorship is a paganChristian defective symptom of 2012 ManKind............... as with the divineHarry hisMind ONLY thing...........
Lets Race to Humanity with History, Scholarship and Science.........................
Saturday, October 6th 2012 at 8:08AM
powell robert
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I found this on a website:
Dogs and Islam and Prayer
By Mufti Ebrahim Desai
Posted: 13 Jamad-u-Thani 1423, 22 August 2002
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Q.) I am a 15 year old Muslim American and my mother is buying a dog. I heard that if I touch the dog, I cannot pray. Is this true? What should I do?
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A.) All creatures are the creation of Allah Taãla and do deserve the recognition of being a creation of the Almighty. As much as Muslims detest even the sight of pigs - it is the creation of Allah Taãla - and because Allah has placed life into it, we cannot inflict pain nor torture the pig.
Similarly Allah Taãla created the dog from among His creation. This does not mean that we should love the dog. It is perhaps the indoctrination of the Western culture that 'The dog is Man's best Friend'. The theory that 'dogs are very dependent on Human affection' is a myth - again culture and custom has helped to develop this unnatural behavior.
Allah Taãla the Creator of this Universe - having created the dog would surely have known that the dog requires Human affection and love to exist in this world. Rasulullah (Sallallaaahu Álayhi Wasallam) would have advised us to keep dogs as pets. On the contrary, we are instructed not to keep dogs as pets and 'love' them as exemplified by the non-Muslims. Remember our life is structured and bound by the Shariah i.e. The Noble Qurãn and the beautiful example of Rasulullah (Sallallaaahu Álayhi Wasallam). Consider these Ahaadith:
Sayyidna Abu Talha (Radhiyallaahu Ánhu) reports that Rasulullah (Sallallaaahu Álayhi Wasallam) said, "Angels do not enter a house wherein there is a dog or an animate picture. (Sahih Bukhari Hadith no. 2986)
Sayyidna Ibn Abbas (Radhiyallaahu Ánhuma) reports from Sayyidna Maimoona (Radhiyallaahu Ánha) that once Rasulullah (Sallallaaahu Álayhi Wasallam) became sad; and said that Jibra'eel (Álayhis Salaam) promised to meet him at night but did not turn up. "By Allah what has kept him back," said the Prophet (Sallallaaahu Álayhi Wasallam). Then he realised a puppy was under his bed. He ordered that the puppy be removed and the area be sprinkled with water. In the afternoon when Jibra'eel (Álayhi Salaam) came, Rasulullah (Sallallaaahu Álayhi Wasallam) enquired as to the delay. Jibra'eel (Álayhi
Salaam) said that we, the group of Angels do not enter a house wherein there is a dog or pictures. (Sahih Muslim Hadith no.3928)
In the light of these Ahaadith and other narrations it is not permissible to keep dogs as pets. The household is deprived of the Mercy of Allah Taãla.
However, Jurists have stated that it is permissible to keep a dog for security purposes, farming and hunting.
The saliva of a dog is Najis (impure). If it touches the clothes or body, that portion also becomes impure and must be washed. And Allah Ta'ala Knows Best.
Thursday, October 11th 2012 at 11:22AM
Siebra Muhammad
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First of all, I would like to say that we should have friendship in all walks of life. And yes that friendship is not limited to humans it extends to animals, insects, fish, birds, etc. Just because we were giving dominion over the earth, don’t mean we should rule with cruelty, and unkindness. Dogs like all animals were created to help man. They were not created to be oppressed or to deviate from their nature.
To suggest that we are bound by Shariah or any other law demonstrates the lack of understanding by many Muslim. Laws, rules, and regulations are systems built upon principles that are most often derived from the Knowledge, Wisdom, and Understanding for that particular time. Fortunately as we grow and develop, our Knowledge & understanding will increase causing the system of laws and rules to expand or change By Allah’s permission.
I’m not trying to destroy the law, just trying to bring the truth and justice in which the law serves. We should not be bound by the law; instead we should be bound by the truth. In this case, dogs are our friends and helpers.
Dogs are blessings to us; look at how they help blind people. Many blind people are using guide dogs to help them navigate through busy streets, on public transportation, and many other settings. Dogs also help people with hearing impairments, mental illness including; Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) and severe depression. Some dogs are even trained to help with medical conditions such as recurrent seizures or diabetes. Additionally, they may also be trained to carry life support equipment such as oxygen tanks.
I know dogs have certain diseases, but so those camels. Camels often carry Trypanosomiasis, Internal and external parasites, mange disease, Camel pox, and Salmonelosis. Why are some Muslims overlooking these facts?
I know Robert the chief spin artist will try to change my words around and take my response out of context...LOL
Thursday, October 11th 2012 at 11:26AM
Siebra Muhammad
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Hello Harry,
Let me try this again. To address your last question first: I only believe in one race, whereas your question "Why do you suppose that prophets are racially different?" presupposes that I believe in multiple races. Therefore it is impossible for me to answer that question.
As to messengers, prophets, and anointing: I would say first that in this context, a prophet may also be called a messenger. I also understand that a messenger, in Islaam, may also refer to an angel (correct me Robert if I err). Now the key may be in our understanding of anointing. Explain what that word means to you Harry, and then I will proceed with my answer. The original meaning of anointing is pouring oil on a person's head e.g. as with King David.)
Thursday, October 11th 2012 at 1:13PM
Steve Williams
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Hello Steve,
Okay, what is the ethnicity of this people that you say is the only race and that is why you say that there is one race. Well, what is the ethnicity of this one race?
Thursday, October 11th 2012 at 4:13PM
Harry Watley
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The ethnicity of this one race Harry, is a global ethnicity. The world citizens of Planet Earth.
Thursday, October 11th 2012 at 7:54PM
Steve Williams
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to the siebraWilliams miniElijah 2012 contingent-----
she/he/it or dogON it writes to me: "I know Robert the chief spin artist...."
AlIslaam, AlQur'aan and the SUnnah of Mohamed(saw) finally SPUN Islaamic knowledge to you about the SUBJECT of the Blog
if you would unBlock your blags, you would learn MORE of AlIslaam, AlQur'aan and the Sunnah of Mohamed(saw)
quit being a preSchool frightened child of simpleTONism..............
Friday, October 12th 2012 at 8:42AM
powell robert
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Harry , PLEASE, because until you are able to even figure out why Steve is my brother, Siebra is my daughter and you, Harry, you don't even exist in any ethnic group you have found so far( according to you, your ownself)aNS CAN'T evn finid a puropse of even accepting your own self, because you can't find anyonw to validate you...until then...
let it go Harry let it go and continue to have the answer to all of your questions long before you even ask them, ect. (smile)
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