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Saint,
The problem you have Saint with me is old.
To prove that you are wrong about your belief I said and factually showed that Black Americans descendants of plantation slaves are a NEW race of people. Therefore, Black Americans can not be who you was fooled into believing that we are Biblical Israelite people.
I walked you through the systemic breeding process between the first wave of pure African slaves brought to America and the Caucasian slave-masters. If Pres. Lincoln did not outlawed plantation slavery the breeding process would have continued up until today.
The more the slaves were bred with the more they were a NEW race of people. Being a NEW race of people Black Americans can not be attached of anything. A brand NEW pair of shoes is a brand NEW pair of shoes. Likewise, a brand NEW race of people is a brand NEW race of people.
Everything that comes to us Black Americans must be brand NEW and the Biblical Israelites are not brand NEW!
You did not have the benefit of my divine knowledge, wisdom and understanding before you made your commitment to your ignorant and fabricated Israelite belief!
You can see that I am telling you something true and scientific, but now that your eyes are open instead of abandoning your ignorant belief and joining with me you would rather deny the true because you are too proud to admit that I am your first genuine prophet, Prophet Harry!
Monday, January 4th 2016 at 10:07PM
Harry Watley
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Saint, you are correct about the black Celts and the FACT that Black Americans are biblical Hebrews. Our people are totally hooked on that slave idea, when in fact, the United States did not exist as a nation until after the so-called Civil War--Takeover of Black America. Even Obama admitted on CCN that our culture was here BEFORE 'we founded the nation.' It is a well-known fact that white people (including white jews) were the first slaves. The State of Israel was created in 1948, not 3,000 years ago when NO white people were in that region.
Tuesday, January 5th 2016 at 9:57AM
Miss Demi
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I love you brothers. Let's keep this healthy dialogue going. This discussion is well overdue.
Tuesday, January 5th 2016 at 10:30AM
Miss Demi
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Ms. Demi,
Let me show you how STUPID you are because you don’t think analytically and you don’t reason rationally!
Before you posted your opinion I had already posted my comment disagreeing with Saint! I meticulously spelled out that we Black Americans are a NEW race of people by way of the systemic breeding process that went on for 300 years.
If you Ms. Demi were an intelligent woman you would have first pointed out how I am wrong before you claim that Saint is right since I posted my comment before you posted yours!
Debunk what I am saying first and if you can’t debunk what I am saying then what I am saying is TRUTH!
I am your prophet as well as Black Americans and everything I say is going to happen. We need a country of our own. We need a prophet of our own. We need a religion of our own. We need our own Bible that speaks only about us Black Americans descendants of plantation slaves!
You are an ignorant stupid woman!
Tuesday, January 5th 2016 at 2:52PM
Harry Watley
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Mr. Watley, the personal attack is unnecessary since you know absolutely nothing about me. If you or your ancestors descended from slaves and you are proud of that heritage, it is not my place to dispute that. I, personally, know from my comprehensive research on both sides of the Atlantic Ocean, that black Americans are indigenous people, and were the first to spread out across the globe, building civilizations everywhere they went. My book Black Exiles contains historical, scientific, archaeological and anthropological evidence that supports my remark. I know of no prophet who verbally assaults people simply because they disagree on one issue. If you are confident in what you believe, no need to be angry. I stand by my comment. Saint is right on this on. You're not going to bully me, Mr. Watley. I am a child of the Great Spirit and I fear no one.
Tuesday, January 5th 2016 at 3:23PM
Miss Demi
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By the way, Mr. Watley, the word Caucasian does not mean white. So, you are even wrong on that point. Originally the term applied to black people, and it has nothing to do with ethnicity or skin complexion. Read the book and maybe you will learn something.
Tuesday, January 5th 2016 at 3:27PM
Miss Demi
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(LOL) " TEACH SISTER DEMI TEACH " I see that you can hold your own here on Black In America.
Tuesday, January 5th 2016 at 3:41PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Yes, I can, Respectable Deacon Gray. In fact, the Americans (blacks) were always described by early and ancient writers as a 'copper-coloured' people, including by Noah Wesbster in his 1828 Dictionary of the English Language. We need to discuss these things not argue and fight over whose wrong or whose right. It is all about sharing information.
Tuesday, January 5th 2016 at 3:58PM
Miss Demi
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Ms. Demi,
The only point that I am making is that we Black Americans are a NEW race of people born out of the systemic breeding process between the slaves and the slave-masters that lasted for 300 years until President A. Lincoln outlawed plantation slavery and therefore we are a NEW race of people since we originated here and not in Africa!
You have not said that I am wrong about the systemic breeding process between the Caucasian slave-masters and their slaves.
Since, I am right we Black Americans can not be anything else but what I said we are and that is a NEW race of people ready to become a nation in a country of our own with our own prophet and our own religion named LIFE and our own Bible about us and how the same God that helped the Children of Israel is also helping us!
If you did good research you would know that we Black Americans descendants of plantation slaves did not exist anywhere in Africa. Our existence began here on this continent as I said!
I need you to address if you believe that we are a NEW race of people now that I’ve open your eyes to the systemic breeding process!
All Black Americans descendants of plantation slaves have White people in our family tree!
I am not name-calling you. I am serious that you are an ignorant woman and an author. When you agree with blatant truth is when you will become intelligent. Intelligent people agree with anything that is TRUE. I am intelligent and I agree with anything that is TRUE! You are STUPID!
Tuesday, January 5th 2016 at 10:39PM
Harry Watley
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My dearest Mr. Watley, the only thing I agree on with you is that we need our own nation and leaders. The entire western hemisphere is described by EYE-WITNESS early writers and explorers as 'copper-coloured' people that also include what they call the 'mixed negro and Indian.' You lack the understanding of genetics and the history of the origin of humans. White people are newly born of black albinos who descended from blacks. I use the word black because of its common understanding, but when I say blacks, I literally mean the Mauri, called also Moors. These were the Red Indians of which my BLACK or COPPER-COLORED ancestors descended. You can call me anything in the book. Just keep in mind that I KNOW WHO AM, so what you think of me is really none of my business. There were only 13 farms or colonies, Mr. Watley in one part of the Hemisphere. How do you explain the Freeman (who were really the ancient FRANKS). I suggest you read the book before you come at me with your weak theories.
Wednesday, January 6th 2016 at 8:42AM
Miss Demi
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Sister Demi, Have you notice that he will not talk on the material and the content of this blog? He is hoping that you get carried away with the flood which has nothing to do with the information presented here for discussion. He already knows that his theory is weak because I have shot holes all throughout what he is trying on you.
TEACH... while correcting and maintaining the higher ground, TEACH...
Wednesday, January 6th 2016 at 9:34AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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His ancestral slavery seems to be more mental than physical. So many people adopted the idea of black slavery from Alex Haley's Roots, but Haley was sued in New York District Court by the white author whose work he plagiarized. He was order to pay $650,000 in damages. Haley wanted to be a slave so bad that he created a false history. According to genealogists, none of Haley's ancestors could be found in plantation record. Besides, there is no evidence of a black slave metropolis or presence of African heritage in black American traditions, except those which modern blacks have adopted, because they have no idea who they really are.
Wednesday, January 6th 2016 at 9:56AM
Miss Demi
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Can us black people just get along. Our ancestors are turning over in their graves. lol
Wednesday, January 6th 2016 at 9:58AM
Miss Demi
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I heard that!!! (LOL)
I will stand-by to see if you get a response.
Wednesday, January 6th 2016 at 10:14AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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To All:
Harry's game been finished along time ago. He hangs unto this "breeding concept" of the Old Englishman, however in his own Piedmont Triangle of Winston-Salem, High Point, and Greensboro there were less than three major plantations backed by data in Raleigh. If you have so many so-called black people from that area they would be able to validate the breeding concept by plantation locations????? So his theory is false and he failed to do basic
research. The two states in the United States that had the most plantations were Virginia & South Carolina???????????
I shut him down on that historical fact and then he said he was not from North Carolina as a diversion and refrained from further commentary.
There is no such thing as a "NEW People" OR MIXED, your lineage is based on your Ancient Father seed which determines who you are.
I can make an argument that the so-called white people were breed throughout Europe and he would say it occurred in Europe not America.
He also believes that all so-called African slaves comes from the West African shores which is historically incorrect.
Finally he says he has a divine revelation from God as a last resort and you must follow him.
So as Deacon stated he uses diversions because he does not KNOW history and all prophets were divinely inspired by his word 'GOD' or the Most High. Moses knew he was an Israelite not a Hamitic Egyptian or Kemet. Moses parents were from the tribe of Levites mother and father. Your nationality is not determined by you skin hue it is determine by your ancient father lineage which I explained in the past is Ancient Hebrew Law and scientifically valid. The man determines the s*x of the child period !
Wednesday, January 6th 2016 at 11:08AM
Yaiqab Saint
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Ms. Demi,
You said my dearest Mr. Watley; the only thing I agree on with you is that we need our own nation and leaders.
What are two reasons you would give that we need our own nation? I can give four reasons why we need our own country! Please answer that for me!
Thursday, January 7th 2016 at 8:03PM
Harry Watley
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Mr. Watley, a nation is defined as a body of people, whereas a country is land or a geographical location. Before our nations were invaded in the 1800s, we had a constitution based on the will of the people. The current constitution benefits the Corporation of the United States only. Having our own nation would allow us to control our own lives and future, protect our people, have spiritual and cultural freedom (not Pot Culture the melting pot), engage in trade, prosper, and protect and become ONE again with Mother Nature. There are too many great benefits to name here.
Thursday, January 7th 2016 at 8:28PM
Miss Demi
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Ms. Demi,
I asked you if you can give me two reasons why you agree with me that we (Black Americans descendant of plantation slaves) need our own nation!
You haven’t given me two reasons why you agree with me! Instead, you give me the definition of a nation and the difference of a country.
I know to be a nation (a body of people) you/we must have a country! But anyway, please give me two reasons why you agree with me!
Since you agreed with me puts me in the lead or the one more intelligent!
Friday, January 8th 2016 at 4:26AM
Harry Watley
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Mr. Watley, here's a reality check. I gave you more than two reasons why Black Americans (indigenous people) need our own nation in our own land. The fact that it went over your head tells me that you may not be as intelligent as you claim. Sharing of knowledge is not a competition of whose smarter or more intelligent. In all due respect, your ego supersedes your reasoning. If you have any further questions regarding my views on black American or world history, you can read my book, and THEN we can talk. Otherwise I have nothing more to say. Have a wonderful 2016!
Friday, January 8th 2016 at 7:43AM
Miss Demi
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Ms. Demi,
I asked you to give me two reasons why you agreed with me that we Black Americans; a single race of people unto ourselves must have our own country!
You said that you gave me the two reasons already! You are a damn liar, but if you were intelligent you would have typed these two reasons out again for the sake of clarity. That is what I would do instead of having me having to call you a liar.
Print the two reasons out and put it in brackets, lying ass-idiot! Your book is just as murky as you are!
Saturday, January 9th 2016 at 7:51PM
Harry Watley
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HARRY,
You don't have to disrespect Miss Demi by calling her names. what is the matter with you, Harry? Was your manhood challenged? Do you feel less then a man when you come across a strong spirit which you have encountered in Sister Demi?
Yes, you did ask for only to reasons but in order to make her point to you, she needed to say it her way and what is wrong with that?
Harry, you ask yourself why people reject you and it is because you are rude, you have no respect, you are child like and you are not a leader of anyone and people are quick to see that in the words you use. Harry, that is no way to act and you need to apologize for your action as well, what is the matter with you. The sad part about this is, Miss Demi is basically saying the same thing about a sovereign nation.
What's the matter Harry, was Miss Demi being a strong spirited Black Woman, carrying you too fast? (LOL)
Sunday, January 10th 2016 at 4:56PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Mr. Ron,
Since you are speaking for Ms. Demi why don’t you give me two reasons why we Black Americans must have our sovereignty in a country of our own?
If you are not able or will to help her out and give two reasons why we need to have a country of our own then mind your own damn business, fool!
If you don’t give me two reasons this will be my last comment to you, Mr. Ron! I am interested in high-class discussions were honesty, analytical thinking and rational reasoning rules the day! I am not interest in criticism or complaints or begging me to apologize. Why don’t you be a Fu*king man and stop acting like some ***** as though you are someone guardian.
Aren’t you tired of me calling you all these derogatory names that suites! I personally couldn’t deal with some one calling me stupid begging me to apologize to Irma, Cynthia, Sierra and now Ms. Demi. You are Fu*king STUPID big-time! Why don’t you beg me to apologize to you, you damn idiot?
Sunday, January 10th 2016 at 6:39PM
Harry Watley
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Ms. Demi,
Yes! you did give me more than two reasons in your post dated Thursday, January 7th 2016 at 8:28PM why you agreed with me about us Black Americans becoming a nation.
I did not completely read the post. After reading the first sentence of you defining what a nation is then about the Constitution then about the United States I stop and said this post is another piece of nonsense.
It is just now that a thought said to me Harry read her post from beginning to end. When I read the post I saw that you said this; Having our own nation would allow us to control our own lives and future, protect our people, have spiritual and cultural freedom …… The rest of the comment is nonsense and therefore not applicable.
Your reason given is perfect! That is the first reason why we must have our own country is to have the opportunity to become God’s best steward of this earth; right now White people are the best steward of the earth.
For what good reason you would think why God would give us our own country and where would our country be? Can you think of a reason why God must give us our own country?
Sunday, January 10th 2016 at 7:17PM
Harry Watley
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After rereading the comments of Sister Demi, now you see what Miss Demi is talking about. You poor lost and mad short tempered soul, if I had not stepped in and told you that you was talking about the same thing, you still would have been in that funky as itch like attitude, you can put a B in front of that itch, that you stay in all of the time when you ego is hurt.
See Harry, being a man is giving respect in the first place and not acting like you did. Now that you found out that you are talking to a Black Woman with spirit, respect her, take the time to hear what she is saying, and respond to her with respect and not like some brooding child, you are too old for that.
Can you do that? If you can and drop that Itch like attitude, maybe people will listen to you for a change.
Oh! By the way HARRY, did you notice how quickly I got to the point without stooping to your low
level? (LOL)
Sunday, January 10th 2016 at 8:14PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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