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The BCA has said the footage is “investigative data” that cannot be released until its probe has concluded.
Saturday, September 3rd 2016 at 8:13AM
Steve Williams
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It should be released ASAP{ so the public can see more.
Saturday, September 3rd 2016 at 9:18AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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That's why the ACLU is suing. What do you perceive is the benefit of the public seeing it Ron? I don't see any benefit other than to satisfy my curiosity.
Saturday, September 3rd 2016 at 11:21AM
Steve Williams
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You would not, if you think like the Oppressor.
Saturday, September 3rd 2016 at 12:46PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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The question you should be asking Ron is why does an investigation like this take 16 months. I want to know where the gun was. The dash cam won't show that.
Saturday, September 3rd 2016 at 1:37PM
Steve Williams
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But that police cam will show what happen from a different point of view.
Saturday, September 3rd 2016 at 2:50PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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And what will it mean without knowing where the gun is? The cop says he was reacting to the presence of a gun.
Saturday, September 3rd 2016 at 3:09PM
Steve Williams
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Then where is the defense for the police. That was a shooting in cold blood
And there was no defense.
Saturday, September 3rd 2016 at 3:28PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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First there's the investigation, then then the indictment, unless you are Hillary of course. Then the defense.
Saturday, September 3rd 2016 at 4:55PM
Steve Williams
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You claim to be an expert on gun safety Ron. Where was Philando Castile's gun?
Saturday, September 3rd 2016 at 4:58PM
Steve Williams
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The policeman who shot and KILLED Philando Castile in front of his family said there was on gun. What happen, the gun is missing now Steven?
Saturday, September 3rd 2016 at 9:33PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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The truth will come out eventually. There may be a trial, or not. There may be a guilty verdict, or not.
Saturday, September 3rd 2016 at 10:11PM
Steve Williams
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So, what are you saying? In that case it would be called justifiable.
Saturday, September 3rd 2016 at 11:27PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I wouldn't use the word justifiable inless the person shot had criminal intent, and that's not the case here. It could have been the case there was criminal intent or criminal negligence on the part of the officer, or it could be that it was a tragic accident.
Sunday, September 4th 2016 at 3:53AM
Steve Williams
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The Counted is a project by the Guardian – and you – working to count the number of people killed by police and other law enforcement agencies in the United States throughout 2015 and 2016, to monitor their demographics and to tell the stories of how they died.
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The US government has no comprehensive record of the number of people killed by law enforcement. This lack of basic data has been glaring amid the protests, riots and worldwide debate set in motion by the fatal police shooting of Michael Brown, an unarmed 18-year-old, in Ferguson, Missouri, in August 2014.
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The FBI runs a voluntary program through which law enforcement agencies may or may not choose to submit their annual count of “justifiable homicides”, which it defines as “the killing of a felon in the line of duty”.
This system is arguably less valuable than having no system at all: fluctuations in the number of agencies choosing to report figures, plus faulty reporting by agencies that do report, have resulted in partially informed news coverage pointing misleadingly to trends that may or may not exist.
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Between 2005 and 2012 just 1,100 police departments – a fraction of America’s 18,000 police agencies – reported a “justifiable homicide” to the FBI.
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Sunday, September 4th 2016 at 6:58AM
Steve Williams
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That police officer is back to work. Keep your eye on this case in the near future.
Sunday, September 4th 2016 at 7:58AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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