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Junious Ricardo Stanton
The Tax Cut Scam

The Republicans’ tax cut legislation disingenuously entitled The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act passed and was signed into law on December 22, 2017, thereby enabling them to claim a major victory for their party, congress and the president. The Republicans hyped this legislation as a huge catalyst that will spur investment, higher incomes, productivity and the creation of millions of jobs. Not so.
This is just spin and lies. Tax cuts for the rich have been a staple of the Koch Brothers and the other right wing billionaires who fund Republican (and some Democrat) politicians for years and is ideological fodder for the Libertarian economic mantra. But the historical fact and reality are; tax cuts both on the marginal and the corporate rates do not and have not translated into boosts for long term economic growth, increased productivity or higher worker wages. It is pure spin designed to dupe and fool the masses into passively supporting legislation that benefits the super rich.
The fact is, the tax cuts will give us a few extra dollars in our take home pay, but this is not a pay raise!! Your wages will remain the same, meaning your gross pay stays the same but you will just take home a few more dollars in each paycheck. Wages for working class folks have remained stagnant since the 1970’s and the tax cuts are not going to change this reality. “The majority of Americans share in economic growth through the wages they receive for their labor, rather than through investment income. Unfortunately, many of these workers have fared poorly in recent decades. Since the early 1970s, the hourly inflation-adjusted wages received by the typical worker have barely risen, growing only 0.2% per year. In other words, though the economy has been growing, the primary way most people benefit from that growth has almost completely stalled.” Why Wages Aren’t Growing In America Jay Shambaugh and Ryan Nunn. https://hbr.org/2017/10/why-wages-arent-gr...
The corporate tax reductions will put more money in the pockets of the corporate CEOs and their shareholders but the benefits will not trickle down to workers nor improve hourly wages. “The centerpiece of the Republican tax plan is a massive corporate tax cut, from 35 percent to 20 percent, which is expected to disproportionately benefit the wealthy. Shares of stock in the businesses that pay corporate income are mostly owned by the wealthy, and the top executives whose compensation packages are linked to stock market performance are also much richer than the average American. So the bill’s cut in the corporate tax rate is going to help them the most. It would also overhaul the individual tax code in a way that almost every independent analysis has shown would direct most of the benefits to the wealthy. In 2019, a person in the bottom 10 percent gets a $50 tax cut and a person in the top 1 percent gets a $34,000 tax cut. Other provisions, like rolling back the estate tax, are unambiguous giveaways to the richest Americans.” https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/20...
The Republicans passed the legislation which was actually written by lobbyists without debate or support from the Democrats. “President Donald Trump rubber-stamped his party’s revision to the U.S. tax code on Friday, capping a year in which lobbyists working to influence tax law poured millions into the reelection campaigns of Congress. Lobbyists working on issues related to taxes donated $9.6 million to members of Congress during the first nine months of 2017. Among the 11,078 total lobbyists who have registered and actively lobbied so far in 2017, about 58 percent – or 6,421 – lobbied on the issue of taxes, according to quarterly disclosure forms filed between January and September. Almost a quarter of these “tax lobbyists” – or 1,476 – made political contributions. Their combined average contribution during the first three quarters of the 2018 cycle was $6,520.” https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2017/12/t... In other words the lobbyists bribed the congress critters.
It is a totally partisan bill but that’s not the worst of it. This bill is built on totally bogus presumptions that have proven over almost one hundred years to be untrue. A report by the Congressional Research Service in 2012 revealed there is no correlation between top tax rate cuts and economic growth. You can read the report at https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R42729.pdf. The report was released in 2012 but Republicans demanded the CRS table it because they said it was too negative; but in reality it debunked their rationale for tax cuts for the rich.
The Tax Cut and Jobs Act contradicts human nature and how capitalism works. Absent strong and protracted pressure, the rich and multinational corporations aren’t going to transfer their money from tax havens in the Cayman Islands or Switzerland back to the US, they are not going to give their workers raises (since organized labor is almost non-existent) and they are not going to relocate their overseas factories and jobs to the United States! They are going to take their extra money and pocket it or buy additional stock shares to drive up the Stock Market, give themselves raises and their shareholders additional dividends. That’s what capitalism is all about. After all, they paid their lobbyists millions to influence and write legislation that favors them and makes their tax cut benefits permanent.
Barnet Sherman wrote a report in Forbes that shows there is no correlation between tax cuts and economic stimulation. https://www.forbes.com/sites/investor/2017... But the right wingers are planning to roll out massive ad and marketing campaigns to hoodwink us into believing tax cuts spur economic growth, increase savings, grow wages and productivity.
“The Koch network will launch a multimillion-dollar push next year to sell the bill, with paid advertising and town halls to educate voters. A major GOP super PAC is planning to spend $10 million to protect House members. And another group, the Committee to Unleash Prosperity, plans to spend the majority of its $1 million annual budget selling the tax plan next year, according to one of the group’s founders, Stephen Moore, a distinguished visiting fellow at The Heritage Foundation and an informal economic adviser to the president.” https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/21/...
The tax cuts for working folks will expire seven years from now, while the breaks for the super rich are permanent! This is a scam. This is why honest economists are saying this legislation will widen the wealth gap between the rich and the poor. Take the miniscule tax cut (it’s already law) but don’t fall for the Republican’s okey-doke and flim flam about it creating more jobs, increasing savings and raising incomes.

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Great read Brother Doctor Stanton in producing more proof that this last tax cut is a Scam. This is more trickle down economics which never worked for the poor and the middle class in the past.

WOW!!!

Friday, January 5th 2018 at 10:29PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
The fact we are here on this social network is proof tax cuts work.
Saturday, January 6th 2018 at 12:43AM
Steve Williams
Dummies,

How can there be a tax scam when the stock market rose to a high of 25,000 all due to Pres. Trump’s tax reform. This was a promise made during the campaign if elected.
In addition, many well-known companies such as Wells Fargo Banking are giving their employees holiday bonus checks which is monies they would have withheld and forward it to the treasury, but Pres. Trump said Americans should keep and spend more of their money rather than the government keep and spend the American people’s money.

You all cannot be right since the stock market does not reflect a tax scam! You all are idiots because you cannot think analytically and you all cannot reason rationally!

Saturday, January 6th 2018 at 1:02AM
Harry Watley
Harry,

Follow the money and see where it is really going. Have you heard of The National Debt? The current national debt is greater than $19 trillion.

Follow the money. Have you heard of The National Debt? The current national debt is greater than $19 trillion and this projected to increase debt as a share of GDP over 5 percentage points in 2027 to 97 percent of GDP, and almost 4 percentage points in 2037 to 117 percent of GDP.

They want you to view the Stock Market and not The National Debt. They want you to look over there, while they give to the rich, while robbing the poor, right in front of your eyes. This projected to increase debt as a share of GDP over 5 percentage points in 2027 to 97 percent of GDP, and almost 4 percentage points in 2037 to 117 percent of GDP.

In 2019, a person in the bottom 10 percent gets a $50 tax cut, a hold $50 and a person in the top 1 percent gets a $34,000 tax cut. Other provisions, like rolling back the estate tax, are unambiguous giveaways to the richest Americans.”

They want you to view the Stock Market and not The National Debt. They want you to look over there, while they give to the rich, while robbing the poorest among us, right in front of your eyes. YES, TRUMP'S TAX PLAN IS WORKING BUT NOT FOR YOU AND YOURS.



Saturday, January 6th 2018 at 8:29AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Mr. Ron,

you are talking about the national debt and the GDP. I am talking about Pres. Trump’s tax reform bill that just passed in the House and Senate. This blog is about the tax reform bill and your response Mr. Ron is about the national debt and the GDP. Mr. Ron you are not on the topic. Please bypass the national debt and the GDP and go straight to the tax reform bill and show how it is a scam!

I showed how the tax reform bill is not a scam by pointing to the stock market overwhelming success. I pointed to actual businesses that pays taxes and since there taxes will be much less going forward many companies as a show of goodwill decided to pass the tax savings on to their employees as a bonus check. How in the hell can the president’s tax reform bill be a scam?

If you do not specifically show detail by detail precept upon precept how the tax reform bill is a scam this will be my last comment to you!

Saturday, January 6th 2018 at 1:23PM
Harry Watley
Where do you think The United State get money to pay the bills from HARRY? We get the money from Taxes and when this country over spends, that add to the National Debt, with interest on that debt. Now that Trump has passed this Tax Scam, less money is going to pay the nations bills.

Let us take a look at Savings from corporate tax cuts will go either to shareholders via dividends and stock buybacks, customers in the form of lower prices and better products, or employees through higher wages, said David Zervos, chief market strategist for Jefferies LLC. But distribution will vary.

So with that said corporate tax cuts will go either to shareholders via dividends and stock buybacks, customers in the form of lower prices and better products, there is no mandate that the employee's will get anything with most companies.

HARRY, did you read this report by Brother Doctor Stanton?


Saturday, January 6th 2018 at 1:50PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
I will use this discussion as a teachable moment, the Stock Market is not a true or honest reflection of the US economy for several reasons: 1) the stock and commodities markets are totally rigged https://nypost.com/2017/06/11/is-the-gover... http://www.rense.com/general52/secretsofth... the international banking system is rigged also https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/understan... 2)Today's stock market is not a tool for capital generation for new and established businesses today it is a speculative fraud ridden con game. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/30/... 3) the 1% own the stock market, they own the politicians and the mass media so they have to keep the people from discovering just how corrupt the system really is that is why no one went to jail after the 2008 meltdown/crash. https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news... The only reason Bernie Madoff is in jail is because he turned himself in and confessed!! The SEC knew about his scam for twelve years before he turned himself in. Do the research.
But getting back to the original topic, research has shown tax cuts do not spur economic growth https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R42111.pdf. I also researched major cuts in the marginal and corporate rates going back to the Calvin Coolidge and Herbert Hoover administrations (and they didn't have New Deal and Great Society programs to fund) up to today; the fact is tax cuts don't generate economic growth, pay raises or increased GDP. Ironically during the Clinton administration tax increases did precede a jump in economic growth but there are many factors to consider when looking at the economy and tax policy is not a major factor. When the Fed cut interest rates and inflation dropped during Reagan's first term the economy did grow but that was because of the drop in inflation not Reagan's tax cut! The Republicans are just scamming the people with their gift to the super rich tax cuts. This may be too deep for some but I know there are readers willing to do the research with an open mind and not make unfounded statements about things they know nothing about.
Saturday, January 6th 2018 at 2:31PM
Junious Stanton
That is right Brother Doctor Stanton, this is a perfect time to TEACH because some of us has bought into this tax scam that lowering taxes on corporations would bring jobs back to The United States with higher wages, when history dictates, that has never been the case, ever.

Here's a paragraph I found enlightening and suitable for this conversation to prove this point.

It took many factors — some the result of deliberate policy choices, some the outcome of broad economic processes — to produce decades of wage stagnation for the typical worker. Similarly, it will take many incremental reforms and new policies to reestablish the conditions that support robust, broadly shared wage growth. There is no single wage growth panacea, but many policies would help, including: raising the minimum wage; increasing worker bargaining power (including by reducing noncompete contracts or collusion among firms); ensuring adequate labor demand through looser fiscal or monetary policy; increasing dynamism through pro-mobility or entrepreneurship policies; and making broad improvements to education or productivity policies. Given the longstanding trends and limited improvements in living standards for many workers, taking action to increase wage growth is one of the most important policy imperatives we face.

Now, lowering taxes on the corporations was never mentioned. The Republican have been waging war on the Unions for years now, Trump launches war on unions himself https://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/tru...

Now all of a sudden Trump wants the American people to believe that he is a friend to the poor and the middle classes in this country and many Americans bought into this tax scam, HOOK, LINE and SINKER.

Have anyone seen HARRY?


Saturday, January 6th 2018 at 5:42PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.

The Tax Cut Scam

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SCAM....?

1. The Value of my Banking, RealEstate, Stock and Retirement Accounts have increased 10%+ since 1/1/2018

2. The Value of my Wife and Childrens' Banking, RealEstate, Stock, Retirement Accounts and Will contributions

have increased 40%+ since 1/1/2018..........

3. My Investments Nationally and Internationally have since 1/1/2018 risen, 10%+

4. The Majority of my Friends and Associates have experienced similar FINANCIAL GAINS.....

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On this one THERE IS NO SCAM.....JUST MAKING money......

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".....I will use this discussion as a teachable moment, the Stock Market is not a true or honest reflection of the US economy for several reasons:

Saturday, January 6th 2018 at 2:31PM
Junious Stanton

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more junior NONSENSE!

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---- THE STOCK MARKET is the ONLY REFLECTION of Economic Growth, Success or Failure.....

in 1920s

---- my Europeans Mothers' Family and my americanFathers' FAMILY suffered when the STOCK MARKET Failed.

---- When Wall Street in 2007-8 Failed....we LOST Financially but have improved in 10 years

bernieMadoffFamily, coolidgeFamily, hooverFamily and the ClintonFamily have gained Financially

with the new TaxReforms

***************************************************Madoff is Happy

I am HAPPIER as I am a Free Man enjoying the benefits of the Tax Reform and Jobs Act of 2017

Since it is the Law of the USA ..... We pray all Citizens and USA tax payers benefit greatly






Saturday, January 6th 2018 at 5:44PM
robert powell
The proof will be in the pudding five years or so down the line. If Watley and Powell see the tax cut bill as legitimate we know it's a scam, given the superficial thinking these two demonstrate I'm not surprised they drank the Kool-aid. They get their jollies being trolls spewing gibberish, ignorance and disinformation on my posts. The question is who are they trolling for?
Saturday, January 6th 2018 at 10:23PM
Junious Stanton
It was venture capital that created the Internet in the 80s and 90s. Nothing happens in business without venture capital. The stock market growth is directly related to economic growth and both create venture capital which creates the next wave of innovation.
Sunday, January 7th 2018 at 1:06AM
Steve Williams

The Tax Cut Scam

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'....It was venture capital that created the Internet in the 80s and 90s. Nothing happens in business without venture capital. The stock market growth is directly related to economic growth and both create venture capital which creates the next wave of innovation...."
Sunday, January 7th 2018 at 1:06AM
Steve Williams

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Amen ...... I would like to have thought this earlier at my comment

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-----OFF SUBJECT with junior......

I know the racistlyIgnorant junior likes to "...Watley and Powell..."....???

....OK I can take a JOKE --Like FROM YOU and the oldeBlagKings, siebras, soSos, Faiths,

truthBeTolds, governedBYchrist, yaiqabs... etals.....debate defeated and GONE.....

---They liked to insult AfricanAmerican Successful Professional Poetic/Prose Debate .... ALSO!

BUT.....Truth be TOLD, and Reality BIA, commentary that can be VERIFIED by internet Archives

----- I, Robert Powell, in my first comment to harryWHAT....acknowledged that that 'black'writer is:

1......racistlyIgnorant "black"NONSENSE....

2......a 68 IQ Retardant of Intelligence FOUND in paganChristian euroCOLORED 'whiteBlacks' Lands

3......a proPHAT of Retardism of History, Scholarship and Science.

4......a mentallyChallenged person; I would call Medical Professionals to take him to a hospital

harryWhat based on my 2007 assessment is A closer twin to YOU AND the other RACIST 'blackWriters'


Sunday, January 7th 2018 at 8:42AM
robert powell
Mr. Stanton,

You believe the stock market is rigged! How is it rigged Mr. Stanton?

Sunday, January 7th 2018 at 10:54AM
Harry Watley
The Internet was created by the US government by its Advanced Research Projects Agency (now known as the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency [DARPA]) ARPA was the prime mover in the development of the Internet along with several institutions like MIT and Stanford University http://www.tech-faq.com/who-invented-the-i... .
The capital to finance the project came from government funding https://www.internetsociety.org/internet/h... not from Wall Street or the NASDAQ. Private funding came much later. Most of what has been posted on this thread by people like Robert Powell and Harry Watley is disinformation or flat out ignorance. Mr Williams comments are not factual either. We owe it to ourselves to discern the truth, to do the research so we are not fooled by 1% propaganda or by trolls who have infiltrated this site to spread disinformation to the people.
Sunday, January 7th 2018 at 12:54PM
Junious Stanton
I'm aware of the DARPA roots. I'm talking about this:

Commercial Internet service providers (ISPs) emerged in the late 1980s and early 1990s. The ARPANET was decommissioned in 1990. By 1995, the Internet was fully commercialized in the U.S. when the NSFNet was decommissioned, removing the last restrictions on use of the Internet to carry commercial traffic.

Sunday, January 7th 2018 at 1:12PM
Steve Williams
I agree I shouldn't have used the word created, but rather developed, or commercialized. I was co-founder of one venture capital funded company, and in 1991 joined another venture capital funded company, hugely successful which was one of the first to go public, in 1994.
Sunday, January 7th 2018 at 1:17PM
Steve Williams
But venture capital goes back to earliest American history, for instance the colonial iron producers. Tax cuts create venture capital and venture capital creates industry and wealth, and the products we all benefit from.
Sunday, January 7th 2018 at 1:23PM
Steve Williams

Most of what has been posted on this thread by people like Robert Powell and Harry Watley is disinformation or flat out ignorance. Mr Williams comments are not factual either. We owe it to ourselves to discern the truth, to do the research so we are not fooled by 1% propaganda or by trolls who have infiltrated this site to spread disinformation to the people......"
Sunday, January 7th 2018 at 12:54PM
Junious Stanton

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Before I commented on this Intelligent, thoughtful, GENIUS, Blog I noticed that for 2 Days, TWO DAYS,

your twinGenius 'blackCOLOREDBrother' deacon, and your thoughtful 'blackCOLOREDproPHAT' had COMMENTED.

Now I did notice that steveWilliams, had commented.....He seems a good researcher....

---- BUT to you one percent of commentation... 1%......is that 1 OUT of 100 ....?

I READ four commentators, and you.....so that's 80% are against, AGAIN....you and youDeacon are 20%

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Learn SOMETHING, someday....not juniorBad, "propaganda or by trolls who have infiltrated";

(propagandist, monsters under a bridge that are infiltrating spies.)...?

------ what a stereotypical 'black' you are.......Again

this is an African American Family site....go find your 20% at a 'black' RACIST nonsense site.....



Sunday, January 7th 2018 at 1:33PM
robert powell
Another example:

During that same summer, Henry was invited by his boss, Alexander Dow, to attend a meeting of Edison Illuminating Company executives at Manhattan Beach in New York. At the meeting Ford had an opportunity to discuss his gasoline automobile with Thomas Edison. Surprisingly, Edison, who usually advocated electric vehicles, told Ford that with his gasoline engine he was headed in the right direction. Edison's remarks were a tremendous stimulant to Ford. Dow, however, a strong advocate of electricity for motive power, wanted no hazardous gasoline on his property. While still employed by Edison and working on an improved vehicle, Ford began thinking seriously of manufacturing gasoline automobiles. A second Ford vehicle was completed in 1898. Ford found he needed considerable financial help if he were to go into the business of building automobiles. Henry's friend, [Detroit] Mayor William C. Maybury, introduced Henry to many of the notables in Detroit. In July of 1899, Ford had an opportunity to drive wealthy Detroit lumber merchant William H. Murphy on a 3-1/2 hour, 60 mile demonstration ride to Farmington, Pontiac and back to Detroit thus gaining his first strong financial backer.

Funded by Murphy and several of his friends, and with Henry Ford in the position of Superintendent, (receiving a salary of $150 a month) the Detroit Automobile Company was founded on August 5, 1899. The manufacturing plant was to be at 1343 Cass Avenue at Amsterdam in Detroit. On August 15, 1899, Henry Ford resigned from the Edison Illuminating Company, turning down a promised salary of $1900 a year. The first product of the Detroit Automobile Company, a delivery wagon, was completed in January 1900, and demonstrated on the streets of Detroit with considerable success. Major stockholders, however, were pushing for a variety of vehicles and were in a hurry to make profits while Henry was beset by a number of engineering problems. His experience had not included making more than one car at a time. Several cars were produced but not at the quality Ford would have liked and at a price too expensive to sell. Henry received what appears to have been his final check for $75 on October 29,1900. The Detroit Automobile Company was officially dissolved in January 1901. While Henry was with the Detroit Automobile Company, he received a letter from his friend Oliver Barthel, an attorney and draftsman, warning of the Selden patent, a legality with which Henry Ford would soon have to contend.

http://hfha.org/the-ford-story/the-birth-o...

Sunday, January 7th 2018 at 1:39PM
Steve Williams
Modern capitalism was founded on venture capitalism. The Monopoly Trading Companies ( the forerunners of today's corporations) that financed Western colonialism/imperialism and plunder (invasions of indigenous people's lands) were founded via partnerships between the Popes, Monarchs, bankers and merchantmen the elites of their day.
Tax cuts do not create venture capitalists there is no evidence tax cuts stimulate investment, innovation or productivity whatsoever. The key factors for investment are: perceived opportunities, return on investment, interest rates, speculation and awareness. The mantra that tax cuts spur the economy is just not true. Innovation, risk taking , "confidence" and greed are the primary factors in Western economic growth. When the tax rate for the top 1% was 90% there was still economic growth and there was always speculation, speculation and greed are at the heart of Western capitalism. Speculation and greed inevitably lead to bubbles, fraud, corruption, and eventually market crashes. This is an an early historical model of this reoccurring scenario https://www.investopedia.com/features/cras...
Sunday, January 7th 2018 at 1:52PM
Junious Stanton
Capitalism, venture investing and stock markets were created by the European upper classes and for centuries they were the prime movers and main beneficiaries of this predatory system. Fraud greed and speculation are endemic in the system. Venture capitalism did create a new Western economy, many new industries or expand already existing ones. The Trans-Atlantic slave trade for example boosted ship building, iron working and weapons manufacturing, the distilleries in New England (to get the Africans and Native Americans drunk to undermine their culture and ethical systems) and enrich the banking and insurance industries. Some of that wealth did trickle down to the lower classes.
Demand for new foods crops, tea, sugar and cotton fueled the industrial revolution that produced child labor abuse, white slavery (indentured servants and bonds-persons), world wars and other horrors like global white imperialism and colonization.
Obviously many more people other than Powell and Watley read these posts but choose not to comment which is their right and prerogative. From my perspective It would be refreshing if more readers added their thoughts and opinions. At least Steve Williams offers material that can be fact checked even though it is mostly cut and paste from other sources. He admits when he is in error unlike trolls like Powell and Watley. Powell and Watley could eschew commenting altogether and mind their own business but they get more attention posting here than on their own material.
Sunday, January 7th 2018 at 2:20PM
Junious Stanton

The Tax Cut Scam

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On this one THERE IS NO SCAM...in the Tax Reform and Jobs Act of 2017 ......

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Definition of scam

: a fraudulent or deceptive act or operation an insurance scam

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the AUTHOR writes......as a 4th personal attack TODAY.....

"...distilleries in New England (to get the Africans and Native Americans drunk .........

Obviously many more people other than Powell .. read these posts but choose not to comment...."

Sunday, January 7th 2018 at 2:20PM
Junious Stanton

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OBVIOUSLY

...... DEMOCRACY as Defined by Congress and the President of the United States

PASSED, as in doing theirJOB.....the Tax Reform and Jobs Act of 2017

----- SO it cannot be a "scam" or "juniorScam"...... IT IS USA LAW......

BUT I believe.....

This blog is a SCAM ...... based on BIA, Preamble......

{....BIA is Black In America is an online community for African American men, women, and families,

and want to shatter negative stereotypes and misconceptions. This platform stimulates positive ideas,

dialogue and solutions. This site is not affiliated with CNN, but does compliment

their "Black In America" special reports.}

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Obviously junior MUST be a psychic?......THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS.....

Obviously junior is a stereotypical olde Misconception and FRAUD Scam Perpetrator.....

PS

The African Asian and Native Americans were Capitalists ... when Europeans were Neanderthals

----- and NEVER were alcohol drinkers before the euroPAGANS learned to manufacture anything...


Sunday, January 7th 2018 at 2:51PM
robert powell
What you call greed is human nature, has been since the beginning of the species. This greed gives you all the products and conveniences you are happy to utilize every day. Or you can pay worthless bureaucrats for shuffling money around. I'd rather it went back to further innovation.
Sunday, January 7th 2018 at 2:52PM
Steve Williams
More non factual gibberish from Powell. What proof do you Robert Powell have that indigenous people were capitalists? Show it share it, prove it or shut up. Capitalism is just one form of human socio-economic activity. It is based upon the consciousness, values and culture of Europeans whose dog eat dog behavior are legendary.
Steve Williams, greed is not I repeat a universal human trait. Let's put it this way, in societies where good character is cultivated, promoted and held up (unlike the West where rape pillage and plunder are the predominant ethos of the ruling class) and family based tribal and clan cooperation are the prevailing way of social interaction, commerce and trade are very different from what we see and experience in the West. You don't have the types of slavery, child labor abuse, patriarchy and genocide the West is famous for. Are all humans perfect, of course not; but the West has demonstrated an abhorrent ethos that some excuse because they have "conveniences" technology and products at their fingertips. Ancient indigenous people had commerce and trade that was not based upon invasion pillage and plunder. Obviously Mr Williams has a very nonchalant attitude regarding the wars, genocide, theft, wholesale environmental spoilage and slaughter that allowed the nations land and products he enjoys to come into being.
Sunday, January 7th 2018 at 4:01PM
Junious Stanton
Mr. Stanton,

You claim that the stock market is rigged. I asked you to please explain how the stock market is rigged and you can’t prove that the stock market is rigged.
The concept of a rigged stock market is when the stock market is against the common citizen and that is not true!
I once took some money I had and invested it and in no time my investment had almost doubled in last than a year.

I’ll ask you again please show just how the stock market is rigged!


Sunday, January 7th 2018 at 4:03PM
Harry Watley
Mr. Stanton, I think you have a romantic view of tribal societies.
Sunday, January 7th 2018 at 4:23PM
Steve Williams
Harry, you must had not paid any attention to the links that Brother Doctor Stanton provided, at the top of this blog telling all the readers, why The Stock Market is Rigged, If wanted those questions you have, answered.

It looks like that information just floated right over your head or you are just another mindless Trump supporter who just can't handle the TRUTH.


Sunday, January 7th 2018 at 5:22PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Mr. Williams, what if anything do you know about tribal societies? Have you studied them or do you know anyone who has? The US has been brainwashed to denigrate and demonize "the other" meaning people of color, indigenous people around the world and their cultures, the very people Western Europe has destroyed on its way to creating and expanding their empires.
At first it was said the whites were bringing "Christianity", civilization, then it was taking up the white man's burden to lift the "savages", now the propaganda is "they are brining progress, capitalism and democracy to the third world" yet their tactics, institutionalized violence and plunder are still their modus operandi.
I suggest you read The African Genius by Basil Davidson , An Indigenous Peoples History of the United States by Roxanne Dunbar Ortiz, Howard Zinn's A People's History of The United States and if you can get hold of a copy Race and Culture Contacts in the Modern World by E. Franklin Frazier to get a non propagandized sense of indigenous people and how they were impacted by the Western ethos.
Sunday, January 7th 2018 at 5:23PM
Junious Stanton
For your part Mr. Stanton, try the books by Allen W. Eckert. The first one of these I read was The Fronteirsmen, when I was 14 or 15. The American Indian has been a lifelong interest of mine. As far as African history well that was the reason I joined this site in 2009 and since then I've studied it extensively
Sunday, January 7th 2018 at 6:04PM
Steve Williams
Studying history is different from studying culture. Books like The Frontiersman are written from a mainly European or Euro-American settler perspective that while based on historical events tend to romanticize the invasion and take over of other peoples lands and justify what they did during the so called "clash of civilizations". I am familiar with his books because they were on the reading list when I was in Middle School. Books like that claim to be unbiased novels but they cannot obfuscate the culture of war and genocide European settlers brought with them and unleashed upon the indigenous people in this hemisphere and everywhere else on this planet they set foot. Facts are facts and the truth is the truth. The truth is hostilities between Europeans and indigenous people were almost always instigated by whites. For example the men Columbus left on what he called Hispaniola raped and abused the indigenous women so the native men confronted and killed his men and burned the fort. In 1637 after European settlers burned a Wampanoag village killing over 500 men women and children they celebrated and called it a day of Thanksgiving. This is the ethos I refer to that has been replicated around the world for the past five hundred plus years.
Sunday, January 7th 2018 at 7:49PM
Junious Stanton
Eckert is balanced, not at all favoring the settlers over the Indians. As far as history and culture (and science) in my view they are inseparable. A good example is this book:

Peter R. Schmidt
The Culture and Technology of African Iron Production

https://www.amazon.com/Culture-Technology-...

Sunday, January 7th 2018 at 8:04PM
Steve Williams

The Tax Cut Scam

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On this one THERE IS NO SCAM...in the Tax Reform and Jobs Act of 2017 ......

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TAX LAW......THESE are FACTS known to ALL AMERICANS ..... LAST MONTH

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Definition of capitalist

1: a person who has capital...broadly : a person of wealth :

2: a person who favors capitalism

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To get Married, to secure a Bride from another family.....

1. Natives of land between Pacific/Atl Ocean.......FOR 3000+ years ..... sold bison teeth deer/bear hides.......

2. African/Asians between Atla/Indian Ocean......FOR 3000+ years ..... sold Camels, goats and chickens........

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Socialist workers advocate junior uses the following COLORED 'whiteBlack' ....


"....More non factual gibberish from Powell. What proof do you Robert Powell have that indigenous people were

capitalists

(MORE PROOF than these euroCENTRIC Socialist workers party guys....do )

A...The African Genius by Basil Davidson ,

(Basil Risbridger Davidson MC was a British historian, writer and Africanist, particularly knowledgeable on the subject of Portuguese Africa prior to the 1974 Carnation Revolution.)

B.An Indigenous Peoples History of the United States by Roxanne Dunbar Ortiz,

(Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz is an American historian, writer and feminist. Born in San Antonio, Texas, in 1939 to an Oklahoma family, Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz grew up in Central Oklahoma, daughter of a sharecropper and a mother that Dunbar believes to have been partially Native American. Dunbar's paternal grandfather, a settler of Scots-Irish ancestry, was a landed farmer, veterinarian, a labor activist and a Socialist Party )

C. Howard Zinn's A People's History of The United States

(Howard Zinn (August 24, 1922 – January 27, 2010) was an American historian, playwright, and social activist. He was a political science professor at Boston University. Zinn wrote more than twenty books, including his best-selling and influential A People's History of the United States.)

D. Race and Culture Contacts in the Modern World by E. Franklin Frazier

(Edward Franklin Frazier, was an American sociologist and author, publishing as E. Franklin Frazier. His 1932 Ph.D. dissertation was published as a book titled The Negro Family in the United States; it analyzed the historical forces that influenced the development of the African-American family from the time of slavery to the mid-1930s.)
to get a non propagandized sense

------- Facts are facts and the truth is the truth--------."

Sunday, January 7th 2018 at 5:23PM
Junious Stanton

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you junior maintain and enable euroCENTRIC 'socialistCOLOREDHebrewIsraelite' points of view

........NOT FACTS .... or TRUTH .... from African Asian History, Scholarship and Science.....

AGAIN

...this is BIA, an African American site.....the socialistWorkersParty site is after -S-on internet



Sunday, January 7th 2018 at 8:43PM
robert powell
The Native Americans, Africans, Asians and Pacific Islanders engaged in commerce and trade over wide areas for thousands of years. Often they used barter, they exchanged their surpluses, animals, goods and products, sometimes they used metal coins, beads, shells or other items as mediums of exchange but they were not capitalists in the Western economic sense. Again Powell demonstrates his ignorance of human history, commerce trade and economics. Ancient people had sophisticated economies thousands of years before there ever were European city states or nation states.
Robert Powell provided some information on the authors I mentioned, no big deal anyone on the Internet could do that. We should thank him for doing it, it saves people time from doing it on their own. As he himself says these authors are historians, scholars, activists and legitimate providers of information. However, Robert Powell has not read their books because if he had, he would not be so uninformed or he would at least be familiar with their points of view whether he agrees with hem or not. He again demonstrates he is a superficial, closed minded religious fanatic and troll.
Robert Powell can barely write a coherent sentence let alone analyze the socio-economic implications of the Tax Cut and Jobs Act which is the original topic that by the way, all analysis admit will exacerbate the wealth gap. Just because a law is passed doesn't make it good. Plessy v Ferguson was the law of the law, as was slavery that didn't make them just. The Indian Removal Act of 1830 was not a just law, so what is Powell talking about?
Mr Powell thinks anyone who critiques capitalism or the US socio-economic-political system is a socialist. He sounds like one of those enslavers who said Blacks attempting to flee slavery were crazy or the rednecks who said Martin Luther King Jr was a communist because he attempted to tear down the US apartheid system. Robert Powell exposes himself as a ignoramus every time he posts something in response to what I write..
Sunday, January 7th 2018 at 10:48PM
Junious Stanton
Interesting critique Brother Doctor Stanton.


Sunday, January 7th 2018 at 10:59PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Mr. Ron,

You said that I must not have paid any attention to the links brother Dr. Stanton provided.

Mr. Ron I did not ask Mr. Stanton for links. I asked Mr. Stanton that if the stock market is rigged as he says that it is to please prove it. Giving me a link is not proving that the stock market is rigged.

I showed my proof that the stock market is not rigged when I invested 10,000 through a broker and the broker explained to me what to look for in the newspaper and in less than a year that 10,000 went to 18,000. I benefited so I would like Mr. Stanton to explain how the stock market was rigged to my benefit.

Neither Mr. Stanton nor you know what you all are talking about. You all don’t even know how to go about proving your own point. You all a stupid because you cannot think analytically and you cannot reason rationally!

You were unable to explain how Pres. Trump’s tax reform bill is a scam. In a scam someone is being taking advantage of unfairly. You are suggested that Pres. Trump’s tax reform bill is taking monies out of the people’s pocket and that is not true. The tax reform bill is allowing the people to have more of their money and therefore when they were paying $50 now they are paying $30 and so they have $20 that they would not have had before.
How to hell is that a scam? You are stupid Mr. Ron!

Monday, January 8th 2018 at 7:02AM
Harry Watley

The Tax Cut Scam

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On this one THERE IS NO SCAM...in the Tax Reform and Jobs Act of 2017 ......

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the Tax Reform and Jobs Act of 2017 ..... and MY definitions for "scam" and 'capitalist

......ARE the Scholarly Educated method of Debate as defined by the Great Thurgood Marshall....

MY usage of poetic/Prose inspired at BIA, an African American Family Site was REFINED by jenFad, the

former POETS Mozell and Katherine....and the Scholarship of richardStanton and the AfroLatin Professor

who are the GENESIS of BIA, after María de la Soledad Teresa O'Brien STARTED BIA......


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but to the points of junior...aka guestVisitor....De n IGGA rating my Consistent writing.....

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"......Robert Powell provided some information on the authors I mentioned, no big deal

A.......anyone on the Internet could do that.

We should thank him for doing it, it saves people time from doing it on their own.

B........As he himself says these authors are historians, scholars, activists and legitimate providers of information.

C.......However, Robert Powell has not read their books because if he had, he would not be so uninformed or he would at least be familiar with their points of view whether he agrees with hem or not.

D......He again demonstrates he is a superficial, closed minded religious fanatic and troll.

Robert Powell can barely write a coherent sentence let alone analyze the socio-economic implications of the Tax Cut and Jobs Act which is the original topic that by the way, all analysis admit will exacerbate the wealth gap. Just because a law is passed doesn't make it good. Plessy v Ferguson was the law of the law, as was slavery that didn't make them just.

The Indian Removal Act of 1830 was not a just law, so what is Powell talking about?
E........Mr Powell thinks anyone who critiques capitalism or the US socio-economic-political system is a socialist. ...........

F....... Robert Powell exposes himself as a ignoramus every time he posts something in response to what I write.. ....."

Sunday, January 7th 2018 at 10:48PM

Junious Stanton

"....Interesting critique Brother Doctor Stanton. ...."


Sunday, January 7th 2018 at 10:59PM
Deacon Ron Gray

A. I did get you to finally Intellectually call the USA LAW on TAXES by its proper name

B. I DID NOT write...."and legitimate providers of information"....that was juniorLYIN

------- I do write though I WOULD NEVER use their englishScotish writing for AFRICAN AMERICAN families

C.Again, you must be a psychic....or NEGRODAMUS.....I have read as a child most of your NONSENSE authors


D. I am not a monster under a bridge OR have I mentioned at this blagFAKISM ... BELIEF

------ again juniorLYIN....negroidISM.....

E.F.
FOR your AMEN 'bladkITE' .....'blackHebrewIsraelite'

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Stop your LUNACY and trump$ette LIKE 'blackLYIN'


Monday, January 8th 2018 at 8:29AM
robert powell
On Saturday, January 6th 2018 at 1:23PM You asked this question to me: "You believe the stock market is rigged! How is it rigged?" Now Brother Stanton responded using that moment in time as a TEACHING MOMENT. I quote: " I will use this discussion as a teachable moment, the Stock Market is not a true or honest reflection of the US economy for several reasons:

1) the stock and commodities markets are totally rigged https://nypost.com/2017/06/11/is-the-gover...

http://www.rense.com/general52/secretsofth... the international banking system is rigged also https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/understan...

2)Today's stock market is not a tool for capital generation for new and established businesses today it is a speculative fraud ridden con game. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/30/...

3) the 1% own the stock market, they own the politicians and the mass media so they have to keep the people from discovering just how corrupt the system really is that is why no one went to jail after the 2008 meltdown/crash. https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news... The only reason Bernie Madoff is in jail is because he turned himself in and confessed!! The SEC knew about his scam for twelve years before he turned himself in. Do the research."

Now, HARRY, how else could Brother Doctor Stanton, use this mode of communications more wisely, to provide you with more information you need on this subject of "The Stock Market is rigged" then that?

Do the research HARRY and learn about the question you asked about. Click On The LINKS and you will find the answers to which you seek.

I will reserve the right to call you "STUPID" because this is a TEACHING MOMENT and not a NAME CALLING MOMENT. that is reserved only for people, who have nothing else to say will stoop to those levels.

Click on the links and enjoy the read.






Monday, January 8th 2018 at 10:12AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Only those who have no experience or knowledge of the stock market believe it is "rigged", is only for the "1 percent", or does not generate capital.
Monday, January 8th 2018 at 10:40AM
Steve Williams
But ignorance has never stopped you from pretending to know things Ron, that you are completely clueless about.
Monday, January 8th 2018 at 10:42AM
Steve Williams
Did you review those links Steve? Also take a look at This: Stock Market Scandals (54 Articles) https://www.davemanuel.com/stock-market-sc... for your review.


Monday, January 8th 2018 at 11:12AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Mr. Ron,

You are suggesting that the links and doing the research myself is Mr. Stanton’s answer how the stock market is rigged.

The answer to my question is neither in the links nor doing the research myself. The answer to my question why Mr. Stanton believes the stock market is rigged is in Mr. Stanton’s head.
Probably, Mr. Stanton has a very low IQ and poor communication skills that he’s not mentally able to collect his thoughts and express them on paper and that is why Mr. Stanton offers me links and encourages me to do my own research.

I proved just the opposite that the stock market is not rigged when I had some monies years ago I invested 10,000 and in less than a year I had 18,000 and with that said I want Mr. Stanton to explain why he would say that the stock market is rigged!


Monday, January 8th 2018 at 2:22PM
Harry Watley
I'm a seasoned investor Ron, I have no need to review your links. Have you ever traded stocks?
Monday, January 8th 2018 at 2:35PM
Steve Williams
Someone please tell Robert Powell the cyberspace definition of the word troll so he doesn't continue to make a fool of himself. And tell him his "writing" is not poetic/prose it's gibberish.
The key to keeping the stock market and the banking system viable is to make people believe the system is honest and transparent. You hear the traders, the shills and media commentators talk about "market confidence", well that's what they mean; people feel the system is safe so they will invest. If you were in a pension program or even a mutual fund the managers dabbled in the stock market which makes you a participant in the system. These markets are subject to the fluctuation and liquidity or the stocks and commodities markets which can be caused by outside intervention (have you ever hear of the Plunge Protection Team, if not look it up). Even the corporate media reported on the advantages of Hi Speed Trading and its impact on the market for select banks and traders. http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/0...
Just because Harry Watley and Steve Williams can't grasp how the stock and commodities markets are rigged and manipulated and they aren't willing to even investigate it for themselves doesn't mean it is not so. Neither one of them works in the stock or securities industry. I've personally known Catherine Austin Fitts since 2002. Look her up, she was a managing partner at Dillon Reed and Co. an old established Wall Street investment banking firm; she was a managing partner there before it was sold. After that she was an Undersecretary at HUD in the George H.W. Bush administration. Read or listen to her articles, podcasts, blogs with an open mind then decide whether the system is pristine and honest or rigged for the benefit of a select few, at least check it out for yourself.
Monday, January 8th 2018 at 3:40PM
Junious Stanton
Take your head out of your ass Steve, the ripping off the Middle and the Poor Class Families is happening right before your eyes and you don't want to even look and confront the FACT that why the Stock Market is rigged, after all this information is in front of you and now you don't care !

You sound like a prime candidate of the ruling class goal and objectives and that is to get the republicans and their followers to give up there freedoms and give that power to the autocrats of this country. WOW!!!

You have no creditability...


Monday, January 8th 2018 at 4:30PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Mr. Stanton,

Steve and I has had personal experience with the stock market. Steve said that he is a seasoned investor. I said I have invested in the stock market and yield profitable benefits.

Neither you nor Mr. Ron has had any personal relationship with the stock market yet you ass holes would spread lies about the White man’s stock market that it is rigged.
Rigged against who? You and Mr. Ron are two bona fide idiots. I am still waiting for Mr. Stanton to explain precept upon precept detail by detail just how the stock market is rigged.



Monday, January 8th 2018 at 5:58PM
Harry Watley
HARRY, STOP IT!!!! Have you checked out this link (54 Articles) https://www.davemanuel.com/stock-market-sc... for your review. or any links in this blog?


Monday, January 8th 2018 at 6:18PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
The only position I have now Ron is what my son left me. He was a 32 year old working man, his whole investment is in the company he worked for. YOU DON'T KNOW DIDDLY SQUAT.
Monday, January 8th 2018 at 6:38PM
Steve Williams
Readers, there is a saying, "when people show you who they are, believe them the first time". Meaning see them recognize what they do/did then act accordingly. Watley and Powell have demonstrated time and time again they are uninformed trolls who get their jollies spewing negative energy and ignorance on my posts.
According to his own words Steve Williams thinks he will learn about Black history and culture joining and contributing to this site. No problem,that is all well and good but keep in mind he is the one who said venture capitalists invented the Internet even though he later claimed (after I showed the true inventors) he was aware of the Internet's ARPA (agency name was later changed to DARPA) origins. This means he knowingly, intentionally and deliberately posted disinformation. Why would someone do that unless he was a troll?
None of them are even willing to acknowledge or entertain the links I posted in support of my assertions about the original topic nor have they refuted any of the documents by economists and researchers I added via links! So based upon all this it is clear they are the classic definition of an Internet troll.
Monday, January 8th 2018 at 6:39PM
Junious Stanton
If we're trolling I guess we've come up empty.
Monday, January 8th 2018 at 7:43PM
Steve Williams
So now you pretend not to know what an Internet troll is? Let me enlighten you and let the readers decide whether or not you, Powell and Watley fit the bill. On the Internet a troll is defined as: a person who intentionally antagonizes others Online by posting inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive comments or other disruptive content.
On the Internet trolling is not casting a line or a hook but since you used the word in that context and meaning be assured you came up empty because your bait was ignorance and disinformation.
Monday, January 8th 2018 at 8:55PM
Junious Stanton
WOW!!!


Monday, January 8th 2018 at 9:58PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
I don't believe in trolls but I do believe in trolling. Remember that Jesus said he'd make us fishers of men.
Monday, January 8th 2018 at 11:43PM
Steve Williams
Mr. Ron,

Your position was that Pres. Trump tax reform bill is a scam. I asked how the tax reform bill can be a scam when the stock market climbed into record-breaking territory.
In addition, middle-class working people has more money to take home because they are paying fewer taxes.
How the hell is that a scam?

I don’t want to continue going around in circles with you! A scam is when someone is getting beat by someone else. You are implying that Pres. Trump’s tax reform bill is beating the working class people. But, how can the tax reform bill be beating the working class people when the working-class people is paying less taxes now which means they are taking home more money now than before, so how in the hell can the tax reform bill be a scam?

Instead of answering my questions you referred me to a bunch of links! I don’t want to talk to any links. I want to talk directly to you who made these out rages claim that the tax reform bill is a scam.
How can the tax reform bill be a scam when the economy across the board is improving!

Mr. Ron, you are incredibly stupid!

Tuesday, January 9th 2018 at 1:58AM
Harry Watley
Mr. Stanton,

Stop being stupid hiding behind what is or what isn’t a troll! You said that the stock market is rigged. But, you have never personally had any experience with the stock market. I have had personal experience with the stock market and I almost doubled my investment.
I am asking you to show me why you would say the stock market is rigged when I personally benefited from my investment some years ago when I was a general contractor and had some monies to play with.

Tuesday, January 9th 2018 at 2:10AM
Harry Watley

The Tax Cut Scam

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On this one THERE IS NO SCAM...in the Tax Reform and Jobs Act of 2017 ......

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the Tax Reform and Jobs Act of 2017 ..... and MY definitions for "scam" and 'capitalist

......ARE the Scholarly Educated method of Debate as defined by the Great Thurgood Marshall....

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yet the 'black' irreligious scam artist....who answers no questions or HAS NO BIA, agreeERS !

..NO BIA Professional African American Family member AGREES with him....on this SCAM..writes..

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"........ On the Internet a troll is defined as: a person who intentionally antagonizes others Online by posting inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive comments or other disruptive content.
On the Internet trolling is not casting a line or a hook but since you used the word in that context and meaning be assured you came up empty because your bait was ignorance and disinformation......"

Monday, January 8th 2018 at 8:55PM
Junious Stanton

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I agree with junior aka guestVisitor

.... YOUR socialist blags are trollISH, disruptive, monstrous a waste of the time of BIA membership

.... YOUR socialist blags are trollISH, disruptive, monstrous AND a waste of the time of Internet space


Tuesday, January 9th 2018 at 8:09AM
robert powell
The banner at the top of the front page of this site proclaims " Black In America The Social Network for Socially Conscious African-Americans". The mission statement for Black In America as posted on the first page states : " It's a movement that creates awareness and encourages dialogue about relevant issues. The phrase was originally coined by CNN when they produced several documentary-style "Black In America" special reports. The reports brought national attention to issues concerning Black families, men, and women. Since then, several groups and organizations have launched various initiatives to support the cause."

By this reckoning and when one reads what I've posted over the years he or she must admit I have attempted to comply with both the spirit and the letter of this statement whether the readers agree with what I post or not. Sadly it is trolls like Harry Watley, Robert Powell and Steve Williams who are defiling this site with their closed minded bigotry, shallow fund of information and knowledge, personal attacks and irrelevant posts that make a mockery of the site's stated and clearly articulated goals and purpose. At some point in time the site administrators should , in my opinion, make a decision either to censor me/not accept my posts or censor or block the trolls. I am not threatened or flummoxed by their gibberish and irrelevance but it is a genuine disservice to the site and the readers who want to read interesting material to allow Watley, Powell and Williams to continue with their diatribes and off topic posts.

Tuesday, January 9th 2018 at 10:57AM
Junious Stanton
So there are 3 capitalists and 2 socialists commenting here. What is the benefit to dialogue to dismiss the capitalists as trolls? And the socialists are what, the "good guys"?
Tuesday, January 9th 2018 at 12:21PM
Steve Williams
HARRY, those links that I provided you, which are the history of this on many other tax scams that the republicans has passed on the American people. Here's just a few things of what I am talking about

HARRY, did you vote for cuts in Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and infrastructure? Well in the middle of the night, that is exactly what happen, which many of the Republicans who voted for that TAX BILL did not know, what was in that bill in the first place. They give you a tax break in one hand, shift's the health care burden from the Government, to the States and then your local and state Taxs has to go up the pay for your health care, that means that this Federal Tax break that you received is now taken from you by the other hand. I KNOW FOR A FACT, THAT YOU KNOWINGLY, DID NOT VOTE FOR THIS TO HAPPEN BUT THIS THE SCAM ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE by the very same people that you support.

DID you vote for The Republicans to take money away from poor and middle-class Americans to give to huge windfalls to people who already got rich off the labor of Americans? Well in the middle of the night, that is exactly what happen.

HARRY, Framed in this manner makes carried interest a threat to the poor and middle-class Americans rather than some esoteric benefit for the rich they that was planed that you do not understand, until it happen and it will happen because about 30% of the stock market is owned by foreign interest.

HARRY, in this tax Bill Scam, The rich get more money from this tax break and the middle classes and the poor get less. This happened before under Ragan and it did not work then, what makes you think that it will happen now? 81% of this Tax cut will benefit the top 1%. Did you vote for Republicans for this to happen?

Let us take a look at Why tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations fail to increase wages and employment

Companies hire more people when they need help to provide products and services.

Wealthy people already have money, so new money will not result in buying things they would not have bought before. Therefore, they will just bank the extra money.

Corporations that receive tax cuts will not build more factories or hire more workers if people are not buying. They will simply give the money to their shareholders and executives.

If companies are not hiring, there is no need to increase wages because there is always someone not working who will take the job for the same pay.

Now if more of the TAX BREAKES was going more to the Middle Class and the poor you will see, Companies hire more people when they need help to provide products and services.

Wealthy people already have money, so new money will not result in buying things they would not have bought before. Therefore, they will just bank the extra money.

Now I am sure you did not vote against those positive points for the poor and the middle class American.

I could go on and on, so that it is important for you to review those links for your education with greater detail about the benefits to the TAX BILL that has been passed into law by the Republicans.

You can start with the links provided by Brother Doctor Stanton for your review and if you don't review those links, then you are apart of what the Republicans are betting on, for you to vote against you own best interest and give the power to the oligarchs.



Tuesday, January 9th 2018 at 12:26PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Mr Williams you are making assertions you are not qualified to make. You don't know what political or economic ideology I support, if any. You're making statements as if you know me and you don't. The issue is not whether you are a capitalist I don't care what you are, the issue is you and your cohorts are trolls, period. All Powell's and all Watley's posts and your post on this particular topic (which you admit you posted despite supposedly knowing the real origin of the Internet) fit the definition of Internet trolls, it is what it is. It is not whether you are a "good guy" or a "bad guy" I don't know you so I cannot say one way or another and frankly it's not my concern. What none of you address is the fact you are trolls. Having differing opinions does not constitute trolling, I would normally supply links to articles on trolling but since you and your cohorts don't do links it would be a total waste of my time.
Deacon Gray does not speak for me, from what I see he enjoys bantering back and forth with the three of you, that is his prerogative. From my perspective the administrator of this site should either contact me directly and ask me not to contribute or block my posts altogether if they are too controversial. Obviously my posts disturb the three of you, but what really fascinates me is you all keep posting in ways that clearly conform to being Internet trolls like this recent post of yours.
Perhaps the site administrator should take an hands on approach and monitor posts for trolling and take them down.
Debate, dialogue and exchange of differing ideas and points of view is healthy but the gibberish, ignorance and off topic rants posted by you and your cohorts do not contribute to the general fund of information/knowledge nor fit the mission of this Website.
Tuesday, January 9th 2018 at 4:20PM
Junious Stanton
Mr. Stanton, I clarified my comment on the creation of the Internet. You claim I don't know you but I definitely know the mentality of those who have no recourse but to fall back on their failsafe, labeling dissenters as trolls. If you don't want comments then the administrators have provided the option to not allow comments.
Tuesday, January 9th 2018 at 5:58PM
Steve Williams
P.S. who were the private contractors who created the Internet for DARPA?
Tuesday, January 9th 2018 at 6:00PM
Steve Williams
The Advanced Research Projects Agency Network (ARPANET) was an early packet switching network and the first network to implement the protocol suite TCP/IP. Both technologies became the technical foundation of the Internet. The ARPANET was initially funded by the Advanced Research Projects Agency (ARPA) of the United States Department of Defense.[1][2][3][4][5]

The packet switching methodology employed in the ARPANET was based on concepts and designs by Americans Leonard Kleinrock and Paul Baran, British scientist Donald Davies, and Lawrence Roberts.[6] The TCP/IP communications protocols were developed for the ARPANET by computer scientists Robert Kahn and Vint Cerf, and incorporated concepts from the French CYCLADES project directed by Louis Pouzin.

As the project progressed, protocols for internetworking were developed by which multiple separate networks could be joined into a network of networks. Access to the ARPANET was expanded in 1981 when the National Science Foundation (NSF) funded the Computer Science Network (CSNET). In 1982, the Internet protocol suite (TCP/IP) was introduced as the standard networking protocol on the ARPANET. In the early 1980s the NSF funded the establishment for national supercomputing centers at several universities, and provided interconnectivity in 1986 with the NSFNET project, which also created network access to the supercomputer sites in the United States from research and education organizations. The ARPANET was decommissioned in 1990.
Tuesday, January 9th 2018 at 6:06PM
Steve Williams
Dissent and differing opinion points of view etc are not trolling, you know that or at least you should even if you didn't read my last post. On several occasions in this thread you made assumptions about me i.e romanticized ideas about tribal life, that I am a socialist and I am labeling you a troll because we differ. The indisputable fact that I raised is you posted a comment claiming venture capitalists created the Internet despite supposedly knowing the facts about ARPA's role in creating the Internet. Deliberately posting disinformation or non- factual material is trolling, period. The issue in this situation is you deliberately, not inadvertently or accidentally but with forethought posted disinformation. No matter what else you say or post will obliterate this fact.
It is up to the site administrators to deal with trolling,not me.
Tuesday, January 9th 2018 at 7:03PM
Junious Stanton
I'm aware of the DARPA roots. I'm talking about this:

Commercial Internet service providers (ISPs) emerged in the late 1980s and early 1990s. The ARPANET was decommissioned in 1990. By 1995, the Internet was fully commercialized in the U.S. when the NSFNet was decommissioned, removing the last restrictions on use of the Internet to carry commercial traffic.

Sunday, January 7th 2018 at 1:12PM
Steve Williams | delete
I agree I shouldn't have used the word created, but rather developed, or commercialized. I was co-founder of one venture capital funded company, and in 1991 joined another venture capital funded company, hugely successful which was one of the first to go public, in 1994.
Sunday, January 7th 2018 at 1:17PM
Steve Williams | delete
Tuesday, January 9th 2018 at 7:23PM
Steve Williams
Mr. Ron,

Your position is that Pres. Trump’s tax reform bill is a scam and I want you to lay it out from A to Z how the tax reform bill is a scam instead you refer me to links that doesn’t say the tax reform bill is a scam.

The links said that the president’s tax reform bill is not a scam so where does it say in the links that the tax bill is a scam? Would you provide me exactly where in the links it says that the tax reform bill is a scam?

I have proven that the tax reform bill is not a scam just by comparing someone’s paycheck before and after the tax reform bill was passed in the Senate just last week and that someone’s paycheck is more now than it was before and that’s because that someone is paying less taxes due to the tax reform bill.
Did you not understand Pres. Trump reduced everyone taxes and so when your taxes are less now so obviously you have more money to spend?
Pres. Trump reduced corporate taxes from 35% to 22% and at the same time reduced the average workers taxes from 33% to 20% and the difference between 33% and 20% is a plus 13% and the 13% represents an increase of 13% in the average workers weekly salary. How is that a scam?

Since the average worker is taken home more money because they are paying less taxes how in the hell is that a scam? A scam is when you are losing and not taking home more money.

Do the math idiot and you will see that the tax reform bill is a good thing for the country!

Tuesday, January 9th 2018 at 7:59PM
Harry Watley
Mr. Stanton,

You made the case that the stock market is rigged. I have personally benefited from the stock market when I invested my money and so I am baffled how you can say that the stock market is ragged.

You have had no experience in trading stocks and therefore you are absolutely an ignorant and stupid man to speak on the stock market and you have never had any experience in the stock market.

All that you are is a Trump hater lying and spreading mis-information about the good work Pres. Trump!

When will you prove your case that the stock market is rigged? I have proven that the stock market is not rigged when I invested 10,000 and in less than a year my original 10,000 increased to 18,000!

Now you want to label me as a troll because I am putting the heat to you!

Tuesday, January 9th 2018 at 8:21PM
Harry Watley

The Tax Cut Scam

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On this one THERE IS NO SCAM...in the Tax Reform and Jobs Act of 2017 ...... IT is American LAW

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Tuesday, January 9th 2018 at 7:03PM
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sometimes referred to as 'whiteMan' steveWilliams and a 68 IQ Retardant, selfProfessed 'black'proPHAT

christJesus southern man BELIEVE juniorsTAX SCAM blag is INCORRECT and FALSE....IT IS FALSE!!

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Tuesday, January 9th 2018 at 8:41PM
robert powell
HARRY, did you vote for cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and infrastructure?

DID you vote for The Republicans to take money away from poor and middle-class Americans to give to huge windfalls to people who already got rich off the labor of Americans?

Answer these two questions HARRY.




Tuesday, January 9th 2018 at 9:09PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Mr. Ron,

I said it before and I will be happy to say it again. Presently I don’t vote. Barack Obama was the last president I voted for. When I voted for Barack Obama I was not anointed then.
But, now that I am anointed I don’t vote because to vote would mean that I don’t believe in my own anointing and the prophecies God gave me that Black Americans descendents of plantation slaves will have the territory from the northern borders of North Carolina into the Gulf of Mexico and from the middle of the Mississippi River into the Atlantic Ocean will soon become Black America’s country.
It is backwards thinking to vote in the White man’s elections and at the same time believe in my own soon to come sovereignty where I will have my own Black American prophet and my own Black American religion and I have my own Black American Bible with my own personal connection to God like all the other races have.

Mr. Ron, you are an extremely stupid Black American man. What stands out about you that says you are stupid is because you have the White man’s Christian religion instead of your own Black American religion named LIFE and at the same time you are a bona fide Black American man, you are fu*king stupid!

Since I am a Black American man I would naturally want a Black American prophet and a Black American religion and a Black American Bible and a Black American country so I can have my own national anthem and flag!
I hope you understand why I don’t vote.



It is not true that the Republicans under the leadership of Pres. Trump is taken away money from the middle class Americans to give to the rich and very rich.

You are stupid! Middle-class people can compare what they are taking home now since the tax bill has been passed to what they were bringing home before the tax bill was passed and it is of fact that the middle class is bringing home more money since Pres. Trump cut their taxes.

Tuesday, January 9th 2018 at 10:08PM
Harry Watley
Since you say that you don't vote, you are apart of the problem. From your comments, do you support what Trump is done?


Tuesday, January 9th 2018 at 11:17PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Mr. Ron,

You are sneaking away from your obligation to prove that Pres. Trump’s tax reform bill is a scam!
You said that the tax reform bill is a scam and I said that it isn’t a scam. How can the tax bill be a scam when the taxes were rolled back from 33% to 20% which means the average working person is paying 13% less taxes than they were paying before the tax bill was passed?
Do the math, 33% -20% equals 13% less taxes the average working person is now paying. So, how in hell can the tax reform bill be a scam? You are not smart you are a damn idiot!

Now, I’ll briefly address your ignorant and stupid comment that I am part of the problem because I don’t vote in the White man’s elections like you do.

To say that I am part of the problem because I don’t vote in the White man’s election is the same as saying that Jesus was part of the problem Jesus didn’t vote for Caesar in the Roman elections.
How can Jesus and I who are two prophets anointed by the same God be a part of our own problem of oppression why God came to deliver the Jewish people from Caesar and the same God came to deliver Black Americans from the White American people make me Christ Harry apart of the problem because I don’t vote in the White man’s election? Mr. Ron you are an extremely stupid man who has no faith in God whatsoever!

Wednesday, January 10th 2018 at 1:39PM
Harry Watley
HARRY, did you know what is in this tax bill?

And next year, most middle-class Americans really will enjoy a tax cut. The division of these spoils, however, is still regressive. The poorest Americans — who generally pay sales and payroll taxes, but have no federal income liability — will get about $60 each, that means the poor will save about $5 a month.

The middle class would get an average payout of $930, which means the Middle class will save $77.50 a month, which is equal to about 1.6 percent of the cohort’s average income.

Americans in the top 95th to 99th percentile (those earning between $307,900 to $732,800 a year) which means the rich will save $25.568 to $61,066 a month. The rich would see the biggest percentage income increase, with the average household will save $13,480 back. Americans in the top 95th to 99th percentile (those earning between $307,900 to $732,800 a year) would see the biggest percentage income increase, with the average household getting $13,480 back. The biggest absolute tax break would go to the top 0.1 percent, which will see an average after-tax gain of $193,380.

HARRY, If you are the poor, you will save five dollars a month, that would not make a difference.

Now if you are middle class you will save about $77.50, that is what you will save a month.

Now if you are that 1% you will save $25,658 to $61.066 a month in savings. This bill was sold to the American people that Trump would not see a advantage from this bill. As you can see that was a LIE.


Wednesday, January 10th 2018 at 5:17PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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