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Drama for John on the West Coast!!

Drama for John on the West Coast!!

Jen Fad · Friday, May 1st 2009 at 3:38PM · 341 views
A friend of my husband is trying to visit his children this week on the west coast. Mind you,( let’s call him) John had discussed the travel plans with the kid’s mom for when was the best time to see the kids prior to going out there. Now it appears that after flying across the country on a 4 hour flight, the kid’s mom decides to give the poor fellow a hard time. When John called the mother to let her know he had arrived as planned in the city, she refused to give him her home address.

Then to make matters worse she wanted John to see the boys at a mall on her terms. Needless to say, John decided he wasn’t going to be dictated to and decided that if he couldn’t pick his kids up from their house as he has done before at their other house, then he would not bother himself. So when John asked her to drive the children to his hotel, the excuse was she had worked overnight and was tired. Didn’t she know she was going to be working before hand?

Isn’t it enough that this poor guy paid for an air plane ticket, hotel, and a rental car? Is this fair BWC/BIA? We often talk about how there are no good black men out there, but what about the good black men who are trying to do the right thing by their kids and are being harassed by the mothers’ of their children for no reason except that we (black women) can?

Sometimes I think many men just decide they don’t want to go through the drama…then these men get labeled as "no good black men" because they don’t want to play on our terms. Why should a man send money to children he can’t see as in John’s case? Our children need their fathers and shouldn’t be used as bait to manipulate the good black men.

Nuff said for now…what do you guys think?


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Jen Fad Friday, May 1st 2009 at 5:39PM

Public Policy Overview :Why should policymakers care about responsible fatherhood?

The federal government spends $100 billion every year to support father-absent homes.
In June 2008, National Fatherhood Initiative released The One Hundred Billion Dollar Man, a ground-breaking study that showed that the federal government spends $100 billion each year supporting father-absent homes. And that's a conservative estimate - the study did not measure impact for related costs such as the criminal justice system, which is overwhelmed by men who grew up in father-absent homes.

The most challenging social problems of our time are connected to father absence.
If you want to address poverty, child abuse, crime/recidivism, drug abuse, teen pregnancy, or education, then restoring fatherhood is an integral part of the solution. Father absence is not a single issue, and its social and economic consequences are felt across society.

Father absence has a direct impact on the well-being of millions of children.
25 million children, 1 out of 3, grow up in homes in which their biological fathers do not live. In the African-American community, the rate is 2 out of 3. These children are significantly more likely to live in poverty, drop out of school, engage in risky behaviors…all issues the government grapples with every day.
http://www.fatherhood.org/research.asp
http://www.fatherhood.org/

Jen Fad Friday, May 1st 2009 at 5:44PM

For Good Men: 8 Ways of Increasing Your Chances of Getting Custody
8 Ways of Increasing Your Chances of Getting Custody
In a hotly contested custody dispute, even if you are a good parent, you may not get custody of your children. Therefore, it is important that you do everything you can to increase your chances of getting custody. Here are 8 ways that will improve the odds in your favor.
http://www.hofferfamilylaw.com/8ways.php


Dee Gray Friday, May 1st 2009 at 9:06PM

Jen, this experience brought back a blog I wrote a long time ago. Here's the link:

http://blackinamerica.com/cgi-bin/blog.cgi...

It's about whether or not fathers should have equal custody rights to their children. One of the points I delved into is the very subject you're talking about. I don't know if what the dynamics were in this situation before these two split, but my viewpoint addresses the woman taking her angst out on the father now that they're not together anymore:

"Let's be honest. As women in relationships with men who have hurt us, and subsequently, become the fathers of our children, we can redirect our hurt, our sense of betrayal, our emotions, our recklessness and our hopelessness on those fathers and to create a false connectivity between all the hurt and turmoil he's caused us and how he will treat his children.

We can sometimes think that this apples and oranges situation is justification for us to dictate how and when he can see his children.

I'm just being real. I've seen what many women have done to men who were terrible at relationships but wonderful with their children. I've seen men beg to see their children. I've seen men cry about having to jump through hoops like circus monkeys to be involved fathers. I've seen men who try to prosper and live right for the very sake of their children completely demoralized and demolished by the women they hurt.

Women and men have got to stop commingling the adult madness and learn to step out of a situation and think about the children. Just because he didn't benefit you doesn't mean he won't benefit his child. Just because it didn't work out between the two of you doesn't mean it won't work out with him and children you share.

In other words, because he hurt you, cheated on you, and disrespected you does not make him a bad father; it made him a bad husband. Father...husband-- see the difference? Those words are different and they have very different meanings."

This mother is SO WRONG and if John has court-ordered visitation with them, he should keep all receipts, time off work data and a written log of time/date of various conversations and he should take her to court. If I was him, I'd actually take her to smalls claims court for the costs of going all the way out there-- AS PLANNED-- and essentially having her reneg on a verbal contract. He may not win, but he will have a record of how much his children mean to him should this really get out of hand and a judge gets involved in family to seriously consider whether the children are truly in more capable hands with her.

She's foul. ...just plain foul. I've seen this happen a lot, which is why I wrote my blog in the frist place. This is a timely topic, Jen. Thanks for posting this.

Blessings...

Marquerite Burgess Friday, May 1st 2009 at 10:22PM

She is the type of mother that gives decent mothers a bad name. That was very selfish and cruel of her to do, in addition maybe someone needs to tell her that their relationship is over and she should accept that fact and move on. If she was willing to do this, I can only imagine what she says to and around her children about their father. Dee, even if they had shared custody and they live in another state, it still does not guarantee that she would not have done the same thing. This is sad and I truly feel for those children, because in the end they are the ones that will suffer far more than anyone.

Dee Gray Saturday, May 2nd 2009 at 12:16AM

Marquerite, you're right. Shared custody is not a guarantee of anything, at least not immediately. But the system to reach out to fathers more and make it a more viable option to challenge the mothers in family court when they don't keep to the custody and/or visitation schedule. Fathers, too, need to be their own biggest advocates and yell it from the rooftops to whomever in power will listen. That includes calling the police if only to get a police report on file so that there is a marked history of uncooperation from the mother.

Of course, this mother does have something working against her that will not manifest itself until later. Children are very in tune many times to the drama between mama and daddy and they will eventualy see that their mother has been the reason they don't have a relationship with their dad. And guess what? They will resent HER for it and gravitate to him as soon as they're of age to do so. I've seen it happen. It's sad but any mother who advocates so hard to disallow the father's right to access his children deserves what she gets in the long run.

Blessings...

Jen Fad Saturday, May 2nd 2009 at 1:45PM

...My question then becomes this: Why do men get such a hard time of it? Women want (and have, per se) equal rights in the business world, equal right at home, etc., and as well, they should have it...

...More and more, we're seeing men step up to the plate and want to actively participate in their children's lives. If a woman can go out, make a gorgeous living, be independent and do almost everything a man can do, why can a man not be as loving or as qualified a parent as a mother? ...

Dee thanks for posting the link to your previous blog, because I must have missed this. I think it's simple to say that it's a double standard when it comes to us (women). We want to have the cake and eat our part of the cake and leave none for the man. It just isn't right and we need to call our sisters out on the carpet about these double standards instead of sympathize with foolishness.

Jen Fad Saturday, May 2nd 2009 at 1:47PM

...She is the type of mother that gives decent mothers a bad name. That was very selfish and cruel of her to do,..., in addition maybe someone needs to tell her that their relationship is over and she should accept that fact and move on...

Marquerite will you be that brave to tell another sister to get over it? That's a fight right there!! (((Lol)))

Jen Fad Sunday, May 3rd 2009 at 1:19AM

...Your children suffer your Attorneys child gets private school. Go figure...

It's funny, eh.

Jen Fad Tuesday, May 5th 2009 at 8:27AM

Brother Mozell,
I didn't mean that it was humorous, but rather strange how things really are. In this world there are so many double standards and I find that really, really strange. What's good for the goose isn't necessarily good for the gander.

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