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Is sovereignty or complete independence of American Blacks, who are descendents of slaves’ only permanent solu

Is sovereignty or complete independence of American Blacks, who are descendents of slaves’ only permanent solu

Harry Watley · Thursday, August 27th 2009 at 10:48AM · 1028 views
Is sovereignty or complete independence of American Blacks, who are descendents of slaves’ our only permanent solution ever to be real people in this world?

Firstly, it cannot be denied that American Blacks are a different people from all other people, racially speaking as Chinese, French, Russian, Bolivian and Japanese people are from each other.

Secondly, Black Americans have never breathed the fresh air of autonomy as our American Whites relatives did when they won their independence from England. No one can deny me that American Whites physically and psychologically made Black American people. Everything we have is what White Americans have given us and allowed us to have. For instance, our high school diploma and any advanced degrees, our fashion, our homes, our health care and even our religions, White America is responsible for giving to us. American Blacks have nothing that they could say or show that is exclusively theirs. We are what White Americans have made us to be or into, as a people. White Americans can say to the entire world that they have made a people, American Blacks while no other people such as French, Japanese or Chinese people could boast that they have done the same. Am I right or am I wrong?

Now, all of us know in debt or to some degree the biblical story of Moses. What if God could do in principle, what was done for the Hebrew people for American Blacks, how many of us would want to be sovereign free as a nation? How many of us would want to be sovereign on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders?

Now, what if Black Americans would inherit from our ancestors a portion of this continent from the borders of South and North Carolina to the Canadian border and from the Mississippi River to the Atlantic Ocean?

Could this solution, that I am proposing put an end to people as Minister Louis Farrakhan, Rev. Al Sharpton, organizations as the NAACP, etc.?


What if God have given to us a prophet to accomplish this tremendous and divine task as God gave Prophet Moses to the Hebrew people to accomplish their Exodus?


What say you?

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Harry Watley Thursday, August 27th 2009 at 11:45AM

Hello Mr. Mozell,

What is a down south man? What ever a down south man is, are you saying that it’s better than American Blacks being a sovereign people on a portion of this continent that they could call their very own country with borders?

Incidentally, down south roaches and rats lives in the sunshine. However, they are sovereign insects and animals but Black Americans are not sovereign people. So, could you please explain your logic to me?

What say you?

Steve Williams Thursday, August 27th 2009 at 12:40PM

Hello Harry,

I think somewhere out west would be better. There are vast tracts of BLM land that could be used, without displacing millions of people. And it is certainly a place in nature that provides the challenge you are looking for. Anyone that wished to locate there could do so. Question: would I be welcome to join you? Also consider this, look up:

http://www.ausra.com

They are developing solar energy technology. They say they could power the entire U.S. with an area 90 miles square. I love Nevada, though many people don't see the attraction. But it's quite beautiful once you get to know it. Another thing, this is exactly what the Mormons did in Utah.

Now I am perfectly serious Harry, in no way am I being insincere about this.

Harry Watley Thursday, August 27th 2009 at 1:20PM

Hello Steve,

I believe that you are sincere, however, let me address your points.

Firstly, you suggested somewhere out west would be better than displacing millions of people. However, as a sovereign people, or having complete independence from White America we certainly would need convenient access to the sea.

Secondly, you feel to think that what the Mormons did in Utah some how have a sort of correlation to my concept of sovereignty, but it does not. It is apparent that you still have not fully grasp the significance of what I have been saying. The Mormons are not descendents of slaves desiring to be a sovereign people or have complete independence.

Thirdly, Black Americans are not looking for a place in nature that could provide all the challenges that you think may excite us. My concept of sovereignty is not about camping or learning how to survive in the wilds. We want to be a sovereign people to stand equally with other sovereign nations. We want to experience what it feels like to brave the natural obstacles that nature hurls constantly at sovereign people.

Fourthly, you asked would you be welcome. Of course, you would be welcome. Immigrants of good standings will be welcome in our sovereign country. However, we will maintain the integrity of our sovereignty forever.

Fifthly, you mentioned solar energy. I am not a scientist I am the equivalent of what Moses was to his people.

What say you?


Harry Watley Thursday, August 27th 2009 at 1:32PM

Hello Irma,

It baffles me that for all the time you have been commenting on my blogs about my concept of sovereignty for Black Americans you still have no fundamental understanding of anything.

Irma, to become sovereign has nothing to do with you giving up your individuality. For instance, all races have homos*xuals and lesbians. Now, to become sovereign that does not mean you have to change how you were born. In addition, if you are gifted, scientifically or mechanically, you can still become a doctor or an inventor.

It seems to me that somehow you feel that in the process of becoming sovereign something bad happens to you, am I right on my wrong?

What say you?

Steve Williams Thursday, August 27th 2009 at 2:39PM

Sister Irma,

Not to worry, I am not a convert, I am still that person I was and always will be.

When the first people came to America, they were not seeking a sovereign nation, but just a place to live their lives in the manner they wished. In short, they were seeking to escape persecution, and to find new opportunities.

What they did was to establish colonies. Harry has a grand plan, but the colonists did not have this grand plan, their desire was much simpler. Harry wants to emulate the acts of the Europeans, and what I've suggested is his opportunity for ACTION. Most Europeans did not leave Europe, it was a small percentage that did.

If I were Harry, I would think in terms of tiny bites, as he likes to say. He could star a petition to gain a place where he could pursue his dream. He could enlist like minded individuals to overcome the obstacles of nature, build a solar farm to provide energy to the U.S., build communities in the desert using the latest technology for water supply and conservation, and otherwise do all the great things he desires.

I am calling him to ACTION!

Steve Williams Thursday, August 27th 2009 at 2:41PM

And this does not mean I will not pursue my own agenda!

Steve Williams Thursday, August 27th 2009 at 2:45PM

Brother Mozell, I love that romantic in you!

Harry Watley Thursday, August 27th 2009 at 4:28PM

Hello Mr. Mozell,

You have missed my point. The point that I was making is that the roaches and the rats enjoys the same sunshine and activities that you enjoy, except that the roaches are sovereign insects and the rats are sovereign insects animals, while a you and the entire population of American Blacks are not sovereign.

Perhaps the reason why it may be so difficult for you to grasp the significance of what I saying is because we have psychologically damaged minds, while the roaches and the rats doesn’t.

The only way a rat would not want to be free, is because it was born in captivity to do stunts or you lose in laboratory experiments, otherwise you could not catch a rat.

Consequentially, you have a psychologically damaged mind that you would not want to be a sovereign person along with your people. Please tell me if I am right or wrong about my assessment.

What say you?

Harry Watley Thursday, August 27th 2009 at 4:47PM

Hello Steve,

Steve, my message is not for you since you are all ready a sovereign person along with your people.

My message is primarily and strictly, for Black Americans, who are descendents of slaves.

For you to assure Irma that you are not a convert is moot.

It would be the same, as Moses coming back to Egypt looking for his message somehow would convert the Egyptians. Moses message was strictly and primarily for his Hebrew people who were physically and psychologically in bondage to the Egyptian people.

Now, common sense should tell you that many of Moses people gave Moses a fight against their own bondage and exodus. You know the old saying that history repeats itself. That should give you a hint of how the Hebrew people were psychologically damaged and so I Black Americans, who are descendents of slaves. What I have just said points out clearly that Ms. Irma and Mr. Mozell psychologically mentally are damaged. They do not want to be free people; they think they are already free. Am I making any sense? Have I made a good psychological assessment of these two individual? Tell me what you think.

What say you?

Harry Watley Thursday, August 27th 2009 at 5:05PM

Hello Ms. Irma,

I would just like to say this to you Irma. You talk about how I hijack other bloggers blogs.

You had recently posted a blog and caught the attention of many of my critics. They all came down hard on me, Siebra Muhammad, Mr. Maxwell Clarke, but Jeremy Trio, etc.

However, you stalk my blogs to discourage anyone engaged in a dialogue with me and fear that anyone would agree with me.

Now, I praise myself, because I have no problems with what you are doing and neither do I delete any of your comments on my blogs. I am confident that God is with me. Tell me what you think.

What say you?

Harry Watley Thursday, August 27th 2009 at 7:50PM

Hello Mr. Mozell,

Let me tell you a few things. I am for equal justice and for equal opportunity as you are.

Now, since all of us are descendents of slaves, that means the same thing mentally, psychologically and physically that happened, happened to all of us at the same time. Therefore, I am not stereotyping us. What I say about one of us, it is meant for all of us since we are all descendents of slaves. What I just said, does it make any sense to you?

I see good and bad in every one as you do. When we become a sovereign people, you will still see good and bad in everyone. What will make the difference is that we will be a sovereign people.

When we become sovereign, we will still be interdependent on each other. We all know that no man is an island. So, while we are interdependent on each other our sovereignty can still move forward.

You are right; our sovereignty is not about color. Our sovereignty is about Black Americans, who are descendents of slaves having our hands on our own destiny. Right now, White America has their hands on our destiny.

You are also right about diversity being a good thing and that is why we will have immigrants of good standings in our sovereign country.

You said that the key is to acknowledge that we are Black. The key is that we want to have our hands on the reigns on our own destiny.

I applaud you for fixing the electrical problem of your White neighbor pro bono. That is very commendable of you and I should hope that you and your neighbors never become enemies. However, that should not put our desire to be sovereign on the back burner, neither should our sovereignty, make us enemies to White people.

Lastly, let me tell you straight out. We are nobodies until we become a sovereign people. That is when we will have dignity and be somebody. Our sovereignty does not mean we are going to be isolated. In a sense, you are expressing a slave mentality that if White people are not around you, you feel isolated. You have a psychological problem and a damaged mind that slavery has caused.

Have I analyzed you correctly, tell me what you think.

What say you?


Marquerite Burgess Thursday, August 27th 2009 at 10:56PM

Harry, I read all of your blogs and the comments that you make on the blogs of others. Last I checked Sovereignty though its meanings have varied across history, also has a core meaning, supreme authority within a territory. Even with sovereignty there has to be a rule by the majority of its members. There will still be members of the sovereign territory, state or country that will believe that are being disenfranchised by other members. Now lets deal with being autonomous which is defined as having the right or power of self-government and undertaken or carried on without outside control. Therefore where is the control coming from and from whom? Because despite the best efforts and regardless to the moral turpitude of all the sovereign people there will still have to be a set a laws in place.
Lastly, it is sad to see that someone who constantly speaks being autonomous and having sovereignty would refer to one of his own brothers as having psychological problems and a damaged mind. The mere fact that you would do this, shows that you also have been affected by the same psychological problem and damaged mind that slavery has caused. I also would like what will the specific benefits be? You also indicated that the diversity will be because immigrants " in good standing" will be apart of the sovereign country. Who defines what is considered " in good standing" or " bad standing"? and what happens to the sovereign people that fall into " bad standing"?

Because at the end of the day, the land to have a sovereign country can exist, but it will not have your intended results if the people still have the same mindset. Because all of what your stating in your blogs and every one elses blogs really has more to do with the state of mind of a person.

Steve Williams Friday, August 28th 2009 at 7:34AM

Harry, you asked me if you made a good psychological assessment of two individuals. No.

Let us start with little bites. Build a town in Nevada, elect a mayor, enact laws, build a solar energy plant and sell the energy to the U.S.
Start a chamber of commerce and promote other businesses servicing the population of solar energy employees. Take pride in your achievement, enjoy life liberty, peace and prosperity.

Steve Williams Friday, August 28th 2009 at 7:39AM

Call it a "proof of concept".

Harry Watley Friday, August 28th 2009 at 7:42AM

Hello Mr. Mozell,

Well Mr. Mozell, let me correct you about one of the things you said. Immigrants, and that would include White people are welcome in our sovereign country. You have never read where I have said that Whites or any other race is not welcome in our sovereign country.

Tell me what you think.

What say you?

Harry Watley Friday, August 28th 2009 at 8:32AM

Hello Ms. Burgess,

Ms. Burgess, I will answer two of your questions at a time, so that you understand everything as we move forward.

When I use the phrases sovereignty, complete independence or autonomy they all have the same intended meaning, which is that we should have our hands on our own destiny.

The United States of America (White America) is a sovereign country. White America became a sovereign country when it broke away from King George of England. The country of China is a sovereign country. The country of France is a sovereign country. These countries are all sovereign countries, because they have their hands on their own destiny. These countries are also sovereign countries since the country is owned and named after its people. For example, French people own the country of France. Chinese people own the country of China.

Black Americans are not a sovereign people since we do not have our hands on our own destiny. In addition, Black Americans do not own any real estate that we could call our very own country, with borders. To be in this condition, and be satisfied with it, there must be a legitimately rational reason. The only obvious reason is that we are descendents of slaves and our minds have been severely psychologically damaged from the atrocities of slavery that only God could correct.

Our situation is just the same as the Hebrew people went God anointed Moses to go and bring them out of Egypt. The first thing that Moses had to do was to deal with their severely psychologically damaged minds from the atrocities of the bondage before Exodus could take place.

The second question or comment I will respond to it is that you said the sovereign country I speak of could exist or is a good concept. However, you said at the end of the day it would not have the intended results if the people still have the same mindset. You are 110% correct and that is why I keep talking to you all to change your mindset about yourselves and your present conditions. Moses did that same thing for his Hebrew people. God will handle what I cannot handle, as it was the same with Moses.

What say you?







Harry Watley Friday, August 28th 2009 at 9:01AM

Hello Steve,

You started wrong. You did not stimulate or agitated my mind. You said, “Build a town in Nevada,”

Well, God did not anoint and inspired me to build a town. God anointed and inspired me to desire a country. There is a big and significant difference between a town and a country. Tell me what you think.

What say you?

Harry Watley Friday, August 28th 2009 at 9:07AM

Hello Mr. Mozell,

You are going backwards since you are quoting Dr. King. You are half a century behind time.

The theme today for Black Americans is the desire to become a sovereign people on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders. Tell me what you think.

What say you?

Steve Williams Friday, August 28th 2009 at 4:43PM

I also said Harry, "proof of concept" Do you understand me?

Harry Watley Friday, August 28th 2009 at 10:13PM

Hello Steve,

Please explain yourself “proof of concept“. I do not understand.

What say you?

Harry Watley Friday, August 28th 2009 at 11:09PM

Hello Irma,

Irma, dealing with you is very difficult. I have a sense of how Moses felt at times, as he dealt with his people, as well.

Firstly, you do not read with an objective mind the things I say to get an honest understanding. For instance, I never said that God told me anything. I have always said that God inspires me constantly. Common logic should tell you that God does not have vocal chords.

However, the answer to your question, whether I am obeying God? Of course I am.

What I would like you to do instead of criticizing me am looking for all the wrong things when there are not any. Find something concrete that you could show I am absolutely wrong. For example, I believe that Black Americans, who are descendents of slaves, needs to have our hands on our own destiny. Do you think I am wrong about saying that?

Since we are a different people, racially speaking, from White America our special needs are not the same as White Americans. For instance, Black Americans are prone to having glaucoma problems while White Americans are prone to retina detachment. White America is not prone to sickle cell anemia, while Black Americans are. Consequentially, if we presently had our hands on our own destiny our research scientists would be hard at work to find a cure that could resolve our medical problems, am I right.

In addition, the way things stand now Black Americans have the worst healthcare. White America’s statistics shows that the same doctors and hospitals treat a Black person having the same exact status as a White person differently. The White doctors and hospitals will give better healthcare to the Whites over the Blacks. What do you have to say about that?

Yet, this health factor you are not concerned. You think that you are intelligent and so does Mr. Mozell. Furthermore, statistics also shows that Blacks does not live as long as White do. Blacks have a high infant mortality rate than Whites do. What do you have to say about that?

Does it make sense to you now why God would choose me to be the prophet that would lead Black Americans out of subjugation and into sovereignty on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders, especially for you and Mr. Mozell? Tell me what you think.

What say you?

Steve Williams Friday, August 28th 2009 at 11:46PM

Proof of concept is like this: When I was an engineer and we had an idea for a new product, we would first build an engineering prototype to prove the product under consideration could really be made to perform the desired functions and was feasible to be manufactured in larger quantities as a real product. We would then proceed to a beta test, using a handful of our most important customers to test a pre-production version of the product, and so on step by step.

The steps I suggested are the same as the steps taken by the colonists on their way to becoming a sovereign nation (which was not even their intent, as I previously explained).

You will certainly agree that is is a much more manageable step to found a town and build a solar energy plant (just for instance) than to create a whole new sovereign nation on territory already occupied by millions.

In short, much valuable information is gained during the proof of concept phase, and may in fact lead to a redefinition of goals as well as possibly proving the original concept. There is no downside to this first, smaller step, and every reason to perform it.

Harry Watley Saturday, August 29th 2009 at 2:30AM

Hello Steve,

I think I understand the principle of what you are saying, in reference to my concept of sovereignty on a portion of this continent that Black Americans could call their very own country with borders.

I tell you what you should do; since Moses is a precedent case or a mirror of the things I advocate, show me where Moses did what you are suggesting I should do? Bear in mind as well, that Moses was successful without having to go through any prototype. In addition, explained how the colonists you lose your concept, unintentionally.

I know by virtue of common sense, any people, as the Hebrews in Egypt, and the colonists desiring and moving towards sovereignty or complete independence from subjugation, bondage, and suppression is a different ball game from conducting experiments in a laboratory.

Tell me what you think?

What say you?

Harry Watley Saturday, August 29th 2009 at 2:37AM

Hello Irma,

I hardly ever understand anything you say. Why do you not state your point from the on set, and then prove your point.

All you do is make rambling criticizing comments. Trying to figure out what it is that you are saying is difficult for me.

What say you?

Marquerite Burgess Saturday, August 29th 2009 at 2:40AM

Hello Harry,

One of your first fatal flaws in dealing with others is your assumptions that only you understand what your saying in its entirety and that it has to be broken down in bits and pieces for others, when in fact what I see from reading your response is that you need to do so in order for you to totally comprehend the direct questions that are asked of you. I'm not one of those people that need bits and pieces to follow along, my comprehension skills are very strong and don't need spoon feeding.

Now on to your response" This was my first question "Therefore where is the control coming from and from whom?" If your response was referenced in saying that " Black Americans should have our hands on our own destiny" It still does not answer the actual question that was presented to you in totality. Everyone's destiny in this world is different, the same God that you speak of that inspires you, also inspires me and others to do his will, some are obedient to that will and some are not. You also can not say what someone else's mindset is, because News Flash: Everyone does not live in a mental state of psychological damage from slavery as you have described time and time again. Besides the ultimate destiny of anyone has already been written and defined by God himself and regardless to which direction one tends to go, he has the ultimate say on what is going to be.

My second question was: I also would like know what will the specific benefits be?

As I continue to read this blog and your response to others, you are still doing the same thing, referring to others as if they are psychologically damaged because of slavery because they give you opposition to what you are presenting in this blog.

Then they way you have spoken to Mrs. Irma, a full grown intelligent woman because she challenges your train of thought is deplorable. A woman, a bearer of life, one that God has chosen to carry in her womb, something that no man can do period. Is disgraceful and then you make reference to you being chosen by God to be a prophet. Then makes me question, when did God say that during the time of you being said prophet to treat his people in the manner of which you have been on this site?

It appears that you are attempting to project your own psychologically damaged mind due from the effects of slavery, as you say, on to others and then go into flat out name calling and insults when people do not agree with you.

Also I have to totally disagree with you, when you say that God does not have vocal chords, just because when he chose whatever method he chose to inform you that you were chosen to be a prophet, does not mean that he speaks to others in the same manner. You see, I know his voice when I hear it and yes I hear it, because my relationship with him is not and will never be the same as yours. So please stop making blanket assumptions about people and please answer all of the questions that I have posed to you in their entirety, not bits and pieces.

Harry Watley Saturday, August 29th 2009 at 3:49AM

Hello Ms. Burgess,

Ms. Burgess, my first inspiration from God was that I must use the scenario of Moses to convey my message that our time have arrive to become a sovereign people on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country, with borders.

I will take the liberty to say that you have a fundamentally working understanding of the story of Moses. It is not much different from the predicament of Black Americans who are descendents of slaves.

Having said all that I will take the questions you have asked me and see how they match up with the Hebrew people.

Firstly, when I said that Black Americans are going to have our hands on our own destiny, I am pointing out that at present we do not govern over ourselves. White America rules over us. We are a subjugated people or an inferior people to White America. A sovereign people have their own country, and write their own constitution and laws, which we will begin to do in the near future. Am I right?

Now, as far as who will control or, where the control will be coming from that you asked when we become a sovereign people. The control will be coming from us the people. We will have a Democratic, capitalistic government better than White Americans system of government.

When you said that God has written everyone’s ultimate destiny, that is not the same concept of destiny Moses, and I have in mind.

Your second question is what is the benefit of Black Americans becoming a sovereign people? Well, you could make decisions for yourself and at the same time, you are free from subjugation and suppression of White America. The same benefits that Moses and the Hebrew people got when Moses and led his people out of bondage in Egypt. It must have been a good thing to do since God orchestrated it as God is orchestrating our sovereignty as well.

I want to make this point clear to you. The same way, our minds are psychologically damaged is the way that the Hebrew people’s minds were psychologically damaged as well. It took Moses over 20 years before his people would understand and accept what he was saying that God had come to give them salvation and sovereignty. They oppose Moses, as you all are opposing me. The same way you curse me and falsely accuses me, Moses suffered the same way from his own people. History repeats itself.

Lastly, it is not possible that God would have vocal cords since God is not human. Whatever God’s composition is, such composition is not within this three-dimensional world. I believe that is why the second commandment tells you about associating physical things with God.

What say you?




Steve Williams Saturday, August 29th 2009 at 9:58AM

Hello Harry,

I had predicted in my own mind that you would make an excuse that what I had to say has only to do with laboratories. However, that is not the case. So it seems you will go on talking rather than doing, at least until God gives you a staff that turns into a serpent.

Harry Watley Saturday, August 29th 2009 at 10:59AM

Hello Steve,

I think that you are making an excuse for yourself by blaming me that you could not rise to my challenge to prove yourself. I simply asked you that if you thought you were right, then explain to me how Moses and the colonists followed your concept of proof.

I knew you could not do it since the two items are not alike. Analyzing whether a business deal would be successful is entirely different from a people who are suppressed, in bondage and subjugated desiring to be sovereign free is entirely different from business dealings.

Therefore, your prediction of how I would deal with your proof of concept is only an excuse for your shortcomings.

Furthermore, talking is doing something. In furtherance, the staff of Moses was Moses staff. You should not get Moses and I confused, we are two entirely different people at different periods. However, I note that she was being sarcastic and facetious.

You will eventually run out of gimmicks and tricks before my truth and the authenticity of my anointing shall fail. Tell me what you think.

What say you?

Marquerite Burgess Saturday, August 29th 2009 at 2:50PM

Hello Harry,

First I will correct you once again, you can not say to me how God speaks to me or in what form it is spoken. Only I can tell you that and yes he does have vocal chords and his voice is loud and clear and very distinctive to me. So once again, please refrain from making blanket assumptions about that of which you do no know. In addition to your attempts to once again, to undermine the intellectual capabilities of others and at this point, Me. It is in your best interest to also refrain from placing your psychological damage on to others, because everyone does not suffer from it like you do. Therefore, just use your own experience when speaking of such.

On to your responses or lack thereof, you conveniently left out responding to all of what I posed to you in my very first comment post, but anyway.

As to the control coming from us (as you put it) it will be moving from a control from White Americas to a control of Black Americans, but none the less people being controlled by other people, therefore still a place will suppression will take place the only difference is the color and/or race of the people doing so.

As to who is opposing you, please refrain from saying " you all" I have not agreed or been in opposition of what your saying, in fact, I have been simple asking you direct questions in reference to what you have posted in this blog. I also have not cursed nor accused you of anything of which you have not done. Unless your living in your own mental world that only sees one side of something, re-read your responses to people and you'll see that you are being called to the carpet for the rude, name calling statements that you have made to people. You've even attempted to insult my intelligence, but I will not be moved. You do not know the depths of me and I will not waste my time going there with you. I asked some questions, many that you have yet to address and unless you are willing to address all of them in every comment post that I have made, I will no longer entertain what your psychologically damaged mind due to slavery is saying.

Harry Watley Saturday, August 29th 2009 at 2:56PM

Hello Irma,

I am wasting my time with you. I aspire to intelligence and good common sense.

You said this, “"I" am only dialoging as a person has a legal and moral right to do except if they are living under a DICTATOR then what the dictator say, does is the RULE/ LAW OF THE LAND. (smile)”

What you are saying here is that you could be as ignorant as ignorant is, since it is your legal and moral right to be ignorant. However, psychologically you associate intelligence and sophistication with dictatorship, how bizarre your brain works.

It baffles me how it was possible that you could have ever become a teacher.

Anyway, remember what I said about the Bible. I never said it was a bad book. I said that the Bible is the testimony of the Jewish people to the world of how God has helped them in their times of trouble with different races as well as helped them personally.
For example, it is the testimony of the Jewish people how God helped Moses in their troubled times with the Egyptian people and God made the Exodus possible. It is also their testimony, how God helped them in their troubles with the Philistine people when the Jewish boy David defeated Goliath the giant. It is also their testimony, how God personally helped them as well when God specifically gave Moses the 10 Commandments and not the Persian race or Black Americans, who are descendents of slaves.

Consequentially, Black Americans are not written about in the Bible since it is the Jewish people’s testimony to the world. Therefore, the Bible is not the religious book of American Blacks. Our religious book is forthcoming. We are a different people, to all other people as all other people are different to each other. God deals with all races, individually when that particular race reaches out to God for help.

The Europeans, including White America have embraced the Bible, and have established the religion of Christianity hundreds of years ago based on the Jewish man, named Jesus the Christ. Black Americans practices this religion since our ancestors were slaves to White Americans. Am I right?

As I said before, Black Americans religion and religious book is forthcoming.


Black Americans for hundreds of years, directly and in directly have been reaching out to God for help. The first indication that help has come to the aid of a people, God will raise up a prophet or what ever you want to call the person for the people. The prophet will be present among his people and it will take time for the people to become acquainted with their prophet before anything out of the ordinary begins to happen.

Did not the Hebrew people cried out to God for help, while they were in bondage in Egypt, and did not God respond by sending them Prophet Moses who led them out of bondage? Am I right? Therefore, those who have brains, they shall understand.

I am the way, and besides me, there is no other way for Black Americans ever to become a real and sovereign people in this world.

What say you?

Harry Watley Saturday, August 29th 2009 at 9:05PM

Hello Ms. Burgess,

Well, you are right. I cannot tell you how God communicates to you, only you could tell me how that is done. Since you said that God talks to you, and his voice is loud, who am I to say that you are wrong. I apologize to you, Ms. Burgess.

Now, I am positive that all Black Americans, who are descendents of slaves, are severely, psychologically and mentally damage from slavery.

When the slave trade started, it was African people transported from Africa to this country to live an entire life of slavery. What ever happened to our ancestors, they passed it down to us. What I just said is common sense. The Africans were the livestock property of White people as a horse, pig or cow would have been.

Slavery was very cruel and inhumane as anything that the mind could imagine. Approximately, after 18 generations, slavery was abolished. By this time, Blacks were severely traumatized beyond the help of any qualified psychologists. Our ancestors were severely suffering mentally to the point that today we think we are psychologically mentally sound, and we are not.

If we were mentally sound, psychologically speaking, we would not be refusing God’s offer to be a sovereign people or have complete independence on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders. Our refusal to accept God’s offer of salvation, sovereignty and our own country would explain how severely mentally damaged we are presently. Therefore, I am positive that all Black Americans are severely, psychologically and mentally damage from slavery. Would you not agree with me?

As you saw the documentary on CNN, Black in America all the concern Blacks are running around doing their best to fix a divine problem, but really do not know the permanent solution. Only I can fix this problem, since God have anointed me. Our only permanent solution is to become a sovereign people on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders.

I told you that the Hebrew people were the same way as we are presently. It took Moses approximately 20 years to convince them that the Exodus was better than bondage. I am wondering how long it will take me to convince you all that sovereignty is better than subjugation and suppression.

White America, all ready admits that Black Americans have the worst health care and the highest infant mortality rate since the beginning of slavery.

Now, if there are any questions that I have not answered, please do not hesitate to ask the questions again. God have empowered me to answer all questions of friend and foe. However, understand this Mr. Burgess. I am not your enemy. You belong to me as I belong to you. I love all of my people, and I come to get you as, the same way Moses as when came for his people.

I honor these people, but I am not as Dr. King, Rev. Al Sharpton, and Minister Louis Farrakhan, president of the NAACP or Mr. Frederick Douglass. I am Black Americans first genuine prophet who will lead us into sovereignty on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders.

Incidentally, we are not going to suppress each other, as the African does in Africa today when we become a sovereign people. I was not anointed to champion Blacks suppressing Blacks in our sovereign country. Such a thought is entirely a no-no.

The people our future generations will become if I told you, you would tell me today, I am exaggerating, because you would not believe it.

Again, if I have missed any of your questions, please do not hesitate to ask them again.

What say you?

Harry Watley Saturday, August 29th 2009 at 10:55PM

Hello Irma,

Do you know the story of Moses?

What say you?

Steve Williams Sunday, August 30th 2009 at 1:09AM

Hello Harry,

You asked how Moses and the colonists relate. Moses not at all. The colonists as I explained in an earlier post. I do not wish to repeat myself. Please refer to my earlier post.

Next, I would like to answer the main question of this blog: Is the way espoused by Harry Watley the only permanent solution for Black Americans. No.

Now, on to my own idea, though I do not claim divine anointing, nor even participation in your personal experience.

You have put in my mind a concept similar to that of the HBCU. Do you believe that a co-op of Black Americans (of non-slave mentality) and some minority members, such as myself, could not achieve the goals I've outlined? Again, please refer to my previous posts on your blog. And I mean, with or without Harry Watley.?

Marquerite Burgess Sunday, August 30th 2009 at 2:26AM

Hello Harry, I will start with this "Our refusal to accept God’s offer of salvation, sovereignty and our own country would explain how severely mentally damaged we are presently. Therefore, I am positive that all Black Americans are severely, psychologically and mentally damage from slavery. Would you not agree with me? "

No I don't agree with you, because as I previously stated, I have not agreed or refused what your talking about. I am asking you specific questions in reference to what you are proposing. As to you convincing, and there you go again with the " you all" that sovereignty is better than subjugation and suppression. I then pose this question, yes it is a new one. Since you are convinced that all, as you say, Black Americans are psychologically damaged from slavery. How do you plan on deprogramming and reprogramming the damaged mind? What methods are needed to do so? I find it quite interesting that you would assume that only you have the answer to solving what you have stated is the problem with Black Americans and that sovereignty is the answer. When despite having said sovereignty, it does not cure the ills of the psychologically damaged, as you say.

Here is the list of questions that I have asked and still have not received an answer too:

1.Who defines what is considered " in good standing" or " bad standing"? and what happens to the sovereign people that fall into " bad standing"?
2.When did God say that during the time of you being said prophet to treat his people in the manner of which you have been on this site?

My third question is derived for your own words: "ncidentally, we are not going to suppress each other, as the African does in Africa today when we become a sovereign people. I was not anointed to champion Blacks suppressing Blacks in our sovereign country. Such a thought is entirely a no-no. "

3. What types of mechanisms will be in place that will prevent the above quote from happening?

For the record, I'm not your enemy either, I'm a very intelligent woman that is asking you some questions and despite seeing the level of disrespect, insults and name calling that I have seen you subject others commenting on your blog and even other peoples blogs to. I still would like for you to just answer the questions that I pose to you.

Because despite what you would like to believe all Black Americans DO NOT have a slave mentality, yes there are some, but not all. So please refrain from the blanket usage of assumptions.

Harry Watley Sunday, August 30th 2009 at 9:51AM

Hello Ms. Irma,

Again, you are a very difficult person to have a common sense dialogue. I asked you if you knew the story of Moses. Okay, use the King James Version to familiarize yourself with the story. Now, what you will be looking for is the core principles, and the moral of the story, as well as God’s purpose for delivering them from bondage.

Then we’ll discuss as many similarities, as we can identify how Black Americans relate to this story, regardless if they are Christians, Buddhists or Muslims since all Black Americans have one thing in common and that is, we are all descendents of slaves.

What say you?

Harry Watley Sunday, August 30th 2009 at 10:28AM

Hello Steve,

You asked, if I believe whether a co-op of Black Americans (of non-slave mentality) and some minority members, such as myself, could not achieve the goals I have outlined?

Emphatically no, there is no such thing as a Black American, who is a descendent of slaves not to have a slave mentality. All Black Americans, who are descendents of slaves presently, have a slave mentality.

My concept of sovereignty or complete independence on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders is the only permanent solution. In the process of achieving this goal is the only way all Black Americans, who are descendents of slaves could permanently rid themselves of once having a slave mentality.

The history of Black Americans in this country of White Americans is very, very similar to the story of Moses. You should rationally understand that your concepts you propose to me, as an overriding solution to my permanent solution of sovereignty is not workable. Black Americans permanent solution must be identical to the Exodus solution Moses implemented in principle, and you have conceded that none of your solutions could relate to Moses.

What say you?

Harry Watley Sunday, August 30th 2009 at 3:08PM

Hello Ms. Burgess,

I would very much like to comment on other things that you said. However, I will strictly stick to answering your three questions.

As to question number one---the reference of good standings related to accepting emigrants in our sovereign country. We obviously do not want bad people in our sovereign country. Our lawmakers will deal with the issue of determining who is bad, from who is good. I am not a lawmaker. I am who God chose to lead us into sovereignty on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders.

As to question number two---God does not become involve in the bond I have with Black Americans who are my people. God inspirations to me is strictly explaining things to me and what I need to do that relates to our sovereignty. In other words, God is guiding me by constantly inspiring me. I do not believe that my personality is as bad as you see it. I believe that I am respectable, because I love all of you. However, I am human and not everybody is going to like me. On the other hand, I become very frustrated at times because of how you all treats me, as well.

As to question number three---we are going to go through a type of reformation as the Hebrew people experienced in the desert. The period of time, they stayed in the desert they learned how to work, love and get along with each other that the entire Hebrew race would survive. Today, the Jewish people, through thick and thin do not bring harm on each other. They are tightly knitted together as a people. The same if not better will happen for us. Everything I say is going to happen.

In closing, you all must come to love me, and you will. At the end of the day, we are going to be a sovereign people or have complete independence from White America on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders.

I come for all Black Americans who are descendents of slaves whether they are a Christians, Muslims, Buddhists or anything else. Just as Moses when went back to Egypt, he went to get all the children of Israel, whether they were believers in the Egyptian faith or anything else only to lead them out of bondage and into their own.

What say you?

Harry Watley Sunday, August 30th 2009 at 3:15PM

Hello Irma,

We do not ever talk about the same thing. I asked you if you knew the story of Moses.

It is about time we had a cohesive and coherent dialogue. Again, do you know the story of Moses?

What say you?

Harry Watley Sunday, August 30th 2009 at 5:20PM

Hello Irma,

I do not wish to engage in pointless disscuions with you.

Siebra Muhammad Sunday, August 30th 2009 at 5:45PM

I have witnessed the knowledge and power of CHANGE and experience being taught directly from my BIA family as well as through Min. Farrakhan and my brothers and sisters in the NOI. I in doing so know the ins and outs of Harry's mistakes and errors.

1. The outright disrespect to his heritage, laying ground work for immediate consequences.
2. Causing so many others to doubt their blackness therefore losing their salvation, also meaning that blood is on their hands.
3. The immediate disrespect to his heritage means instant invitation to his just reward.
4. Ignorance. If any of the ideas Harry spoke so far where true especially for the purpose of “exposing” our people he would have done so in a common sense manner therefore the only question one would ask would be to Google it for verification.

However just look at the way Harry handles it with so much confusion. He's saying he loves and cares about us one minute and he's insulting us the next, which one is it? Well clearly I see; and to all of those who help Harry not knowing that they are heading in his direction. I strongly urge all of you to be serious of the time that we are in. The train is leaving people do you want to be on it or watching it go by?

You have two clear examples one is people like Siebra and Irma who are on BIA daily expressing RIGHT ideas and they be magnified and then you have Harry who is on the other hand expressing WRONG ideas and in the future will pay for everything he has done. Which would you rather do people? I have chosen and my choice is with RIGHT.

Just one more thing to think on Harry do you have a place for your sons and daughters to live in peaceful existence? Do you have a place or system for them to practice truth until it becomes them? Obviously no you do not because if you did you would not be here on BIA trying to tear down what we have grown to love and in turn are teaching others to love (the idea of liberation). As the Holy Bible and Quran consistently shares it is a glorious day for some, and a dreadful day for others.

P.S. I am 100% glorious Harry. Are you? Due to the comments coming from the truth that people like Irma and myself are sharing with you, it is extremely ignorant for one to be so wrapped up in the negative that you bring to them. People like us are submitting to the idea of a free, knowledgeable Blackman/woman, while you would rather spend your time trying to find old in the new. For all of you who say people like me and Irma are a contradiction to truth and intelligence, I challenge you to ask any question of blackness whether it be live or on the web, I can say with no hesitation that my 13 yr. old niece can answer it herself. This is nothing to play with, come with facts or don’t come at all. Since we all know the condition of world today you should be so eager to investigate and find out for yourselves that what we express is good and beneficial for all our people. If you noticed many of the blogs I write are about guiding us towards liberation. Listen to that word again ‘liberation’ something of the NEW, if I were to listen to Harry I would be on the fast train to where he is now.

And if you are saying someone is speaking for me, look at the math of this situation Harry, if you believe that the ideas that people like me and Irma and Min. Farrakhan express is not relevant to Black Americans, if I thought the same, as easy as it is for you to disrespect their works so would I. However I can speak for all of my BIA family when I say that I KNOW that what we share is good and beneficial for all our people. If you do not know what you are getting in to, or even if you do know, if it is nothing positive or to investigate, hold your tongue, I REPEAT hold your tongue. You are making your decision for us to be a sovereign people and look where it's getting you.

Disrespecting your heritage is a foolish choice Harry. Remember this fact. And to other like-minded individuals who contribute to your attacks there is no excuse. You know and will never forget that what we share is good for all our people. Let your shenanagins be an example for you to see that trying to fight a spiritual war with physical hands means instant invitation to your just reward. Ending on a positive note Jesus said "You shall know the truth," so take the knowledge that can be backed up with facts share by us all and fly to truth. For only the truth can set you free.

Marquerite Burgess Sunday, August 30th 2009 at 8:09PM

Hello Harry,

Once again that fatal flaw of "you all", please refrain from using that blanket. At no time have I mistreated you in any fashion, while having this dialogue with you, but you have attempted to insult my intelligence.

For the record, I can't say what type of personality you have because I have never spent a moment around you. What I can say is that you have been very rude in your comments, name calling, insulting peoples intelligence and a number of other things to the men and women that have either posted blogs or commented on your blog.

As to your response to question #2, which was: When did God say that during the time of you being said prophet to treat his people in the manner of which you have been on this site?
Your answer is not an answer, but am ill attempt to justify your inappropriate comments towards other.

I'm personally done with this dialogue with you about what you propose. I wish you the best.

Harry Watley Sunday, August 30th 2009 at 8:48PM

Hello Ms. Burgess,

Thank you for your well wishes. However, as intelligent as you say that you are, what ever you think about my personality our sovereignty outweighs it.

Therefore, if you are implying that you do not want to be sovereign because you believe that I am insulting, then something is psychologically wrong with you.

When we become sovereign people there will be many of us who may have emotional problems rubbing shoulders with his colleague, but it better not stop our progress as an entire people and nation neither will the one disrespect or harm the other. These silly things will be no more.

I raised eight children that are brothers and sisters. Not at anytime did any one of them put their hands on the other. They knew from toddlers harming each other was forbidden. The rule was that if they could not settle the dispute among themselves, they could bring their case to me for a resolution. We all sat around the table, and I heard both sides and my decision were final. I must say I was inclined to lean to the girls’ side, if it was any way possible, without being unfair. Sometimes, when the girls would say let us take it to daddy. I would hear my son say, forget it. Wherever I was at the time, I would just smile. Today, they are all professionals. We as an entire people can be better than my children are. Another rule that I taught them was to become better than I am and that they must teach their children to become better than they are.

You take care, and I am here for you at any time should you have another question before we meet in person.

Sincerely yours, Mr. Harry Watley

Harry Watley Sunday, August 30th 2009 at 11:37PM

Hello Irma,

I am not interest in your pointless exchanges. It leads to nowhere.

Marquerite Burgess Monday, August 31st 2009 at 12:34AM

Hello Harry, what I am saying to you is that I commented on your blog to get answers about what you posed. I will not, I repeat will not be roped into any exchange with you beyond that fact. Not even with your attempt to once again to insult my intelligence. I asked what I wanted to know about. So I'll leave the others to exchange with you at this point. Take Care Harry.

Harry Watley Monday, August 31st 2009 at 7:23AM

Hello Ms. Burgess,

Marquerite, any up right Black American having a good-faith effort after speaking with me have one choice to make and that is to support themselves and me. Academically speaking, the decision to make is obvious, either you want complete independence on a portion of this continent that you could call your very own country, with borders or you do not.

On the other hand, I understand we have been led in so many different directions that the experience have shaved down to the bones, what ever good thinking abilities and decision making we had. For instance, Dr. King’s direction was civil rights. Rev. Al Sharpton’s direction is more civil rights. The NAACP’s direction is more civil rights. Mr. Marcus Garvey’s direction was back to Africa. Mr. Elijah Muhammad’s direction was separation. Minister Farrakhan’s direction is abstract since all he does is whine and complain. You have noticed that none of those directions have worked. Only a man anointed by God would have the permanent solution for Black Americans as Moses had the Exodus as the Hebrew people’s permanent solution.

As for me, Black Americans believe sovereignty is impossible. Well, the Hebrew people believe that their Exodus was impossible, as well. Even Pharaoh, himself felt that he could not be made to let the Hebrew people go.

Anyway, I said all this to say that sovereignty is our only permanent solution ever to become a real people or we will always be a subjugated people in White America. Likewise, the Exodus was the permanent solution for the Hebrew people or else they would have remained a subjugated people in Egypt. Do you understand the comparison and contrast of what happened with the Hebrew people and what is happening with Black Americans?

You have enough intelligence to understand that I am right, and I understand that it was answers and an understanding you want from me and that is good. But again, the only decision any Black American have is to desire their sovereignty, and it is going to happen for us.





Siebra Muhammad Friday, September 4th 2009 at 12:52PM

I have had enough of Harry feeding us the same old refried rice. Let's all head on over to Olive Garden, shall we family?

Harry Watley Friday, September 4th 2009 at 3:47PM

Hello Ms S. Muhammad,

Prophet Mohommed was make a mockey of my his people when he began as all people makes fun of their prophet in the beginning. History is being repeated, and that is all that is happeing.

Allah is with me, Ms. Muhammad.

Wha say you?

Steve Williams Friday, September 4th 2009 at 5:16PM

Hello Harry,

I am wondering, how does one become a prophet? What does a prophet do exactly? I know Isaiah wrote a book, but there must be more to it than that? I have thought about being a prophet myself but am uncertain the steps to take and if I could handle the workload?

Steve Williams Friday, September 4th 2009 at 5:18PM

Sister Siebra, may I suggest sushi?

Harry Watley Friday, September 4th 2009 at 8:17PM

Hello Steve,

Well, if you reason a little, you could answer your own question. What entity do you suppose anointed Prophet Moses, Prophet Isaiah and Prophet Mohammed? The answer should pop right into your mind; especially since you, IQ is higher then mines. Remember, I have an IQ of 68. I am barely pasted the threshold of retardation and you are above average. Therefore, you tell how someone is made a prophet, okay.

Tell me what you think.

What say you?

Steve Williams Friday, September 4th 2009 at 8:42PM

Harry, you are not barely past the threshold of retardation. That one you cannot use on me, we have had too many discussions. Anyway, I was just playin'

Steve Williams Friday, September 4th 2009 at 8:50PM

My God Harry, you've got 293 hits on this blog. I think I got just over 200 on my best. So I am still playing catchup.

Siebra Muhammad Saturday, September 5th 2009 at 5:15PM

Sure you can suggest sushi Steve, as a matter of fact, I was thinking of some good old New Orleans flavor, red beans and rice, gumbo, sweet potato pie, the whole nine.

Watch it, Mozell & Irma, I see you two licking your lips over the cyberwaves (LOL)!

Don't worry my family there will be enough food and dessert to go around (LOL)!

Harry Watley Saturday, September 5th 2009 at 8:35PM

Hello Ms. Muhammad,

Let me be clear that your mockeries and silliness towards me who advocates for our sovereignty on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders tell me how far out you are from even smelling the aroma of your own sovereignty much less living a sovereign life.

Steve was born a sovereign and free man. Your mockery is an indication of the steep hill I must climb and the time to climb this hill may be twenty years or more before any sense comes into your brain of who I am to you.

It took Prophet Mohammed thirteen years before any realization came to the Arabian people that Prophet Mohammed was real and his presence in their lives is real as well. It took Prophet Moses twenty years before the Hebrew people realize that Moses was the real deal as well and was there to lead them out of bondage.

I am the way, and besides me, there is no other way for Black Americans who are descendents of slaves ever to become a real people in this world.

Now, know that I believe the Islamic religion is a very good religion for the Arabian people. I have no problems with the Arabian people practicing their own religion. The problem that I have is my Black American people practicing another people’s religion, ways and customs. I said before that our religion is forthcoming. I am Black Americans first genuine prophet.

Allah said that Prophet Mohammed was the first and last prophet for the Arabian people. Prophet Mohammed could speak only from what he is, and he is an Arabian man and he could only speak for the Arabian people as well. Prophet Mohammed cannot speak for all people of the world because he is but only an Arabian man.

Likewise, how could I speak for White people when I was born a Black American? Wake-up and think a little bit, Ms Muhammad.

Tell me what you think.

What say you?

Steve Williams Saturday, September 5th 2009 at 8:58PM

Hello Harry,

Here is another Black American that is promoting a new religion. Just thought you would find it an interesting parallel. His Gospel of Hip Hop is due to be released Oct. 6. You can preorder now at Barnes & Noble, probably other booksellers as well. Here is the link:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/sep/0...

KRS-One writes 'gospel of hip-hop'

Stand aside Christianity, Islam and Judaism, a new rap religion is set to take over the world and KRS-One is its prophet

Rapper KRS-One has become an apostle, publishing a 600-page Gospel of Hip-Hop dedicated to the "spirituality" and "divinity" of hip-hop culture. "In 100 years," he said, "this book will be a new religion on the earth."

When it comes to hip-hop, KRS-One has always thought big. "I am not just doing hip-hop," he said, "I am hip-hop." But with his new book, due in September, Teacha goes cosmic. Modelled on the Christian bible, the Gospel of Hip-hop sets its sights on the meaning of life.

"I respect the Christianity, the Islam, the Judaism but their time is up," KRS-One told AllHipHop. "I don't have to go through any religion [or] train of thought. I can approach God directly myself."

According to the publisher's website, the Gospel of Hip-hop begins with a linguistic exploration of the words "hip" and "hop before teaching so-called "Hiphoppas" a philosophy of self-reliance, dedicated study, peace, unity and truth. Their messianic future goes by the acronym H-LAW – Health, Love, Awareness and Wealth – and it isn't based on race.

"[This] is definitely controversial because I'm also saying I'm willing to give up my African-American-ness to become Hiphop," KRS said. "A lot of people don't like that." Black Americans can be "Hiphop", KRS explained, but so can Nigerians, Cubans and Italians. "I'm willing to go beyond my born culture to create a whole new civilisation."

This is 44-year-old KRS's third book about hip-hop. "In a hundred years, everything that I'm saying to you will be common knowledge," he said. "People will be like, 'Why did he have to explain this? Wasn't it obvious?' In my time, it's not obvious."

Harry Watley Saturday, September 5th 2009 at 9:59PM

Hello Steve,

You and I just had a diaolgue about how some one becomes a prophet and you are fooled by KRS. I thought that your IQ was above average. Anyway, had you not noticed that I am not promoting religion. I am promting the sovereignty of Black Americans who are descendents of slaves.

It seems that at times your better judgement gets the best of you. You should guard aganist these mental short comings. Tell me what you think.

What say you?

Steve Williams Saturday, September 5th 2009 at 10:18PM

I thought you have said a new book of religion for Black Americans is forthcoming?

Steve Williams Saturday, September 5th 2009 at 10:28PM

And Harry, look above, you never answered my question how one becomes a prophet.

Harry Watley Sunday, September 6th 2009 at 12:48AM

Hello Steve,

Yes Steve, I said that Black America’s religion and book is forthcoming. Forthcoming means that these items are not here yet, am I right.

Steve I did directly answer your questions how some one becomes a prophet. Rather I was giving you hints that you could help your self to answer your own question. I asked you what entity you suppose anointed Isaiah, Moses, Mohammed, Jesus and me as prophets to our own people. There is only one. Since, I know that your IQ is over average you should pop the right answer out without much mental effort. I could easily answer the question having an IQ of 68 how it is that you cannot answer your own question with an above average IQ.

Think a little bit, I will give you the first letter of the entity that anoints men to prophet-hood. The first letter is ‘G‘. Now you tell me the other two letters, okay. How is that, I am making it to easy for you and I have an IQ of 68.

Tell me what you think.

What say you?

Steve Williams Sunday, September 6th 2009 at 8:33AM

I like it when I see a little humor in you Harry. Do I ever make you smile? I hope so.

But on the serious note again, yes I know where prophets come from, but have not really understood just what prophesy is. It is not mere fortunetelling correct? I know in Acts the church prophesied in tongues, but what was the nature of that prophesy? Also, in studying the history of the Bible in 16th century England the Puritans had meetings where they were said to prophesy to one another. By this I take it to mean a sort of bible study. So I tend to think of prophesy as speaking the word of God, am I correct?

Harry Watley Sunday, September 6th 2009 at 11:00AM

Hello Steve,

Of course, I enjoy humor and I thank you for making me laugh at times. I am human just as you are Steve.

Well, about your curiosity concerning prophets. My inspiration from God for the most part is that I am constantly to relate the story of Moses by comparison and contrast to Black Americans that they would better understand their time have come.

Likewise, it was a moment in time when the Hebrew people time had come to be free of the Egyptian people and Pharaoh. That moment was not a day before that particular day when God came to Moses and anointed him. Likewise, the time for Black Americans to be free and responsibility for themselves have come by my anointing of God as well.

Now, about the rest of the bible, I have a fundamentality working understanding of the bible. However, the rest of the bible is altogether another ballgame and I stay away from it since I am not teaching bible study to my people.

What I know about prophets is that they are men sent by God to do right a wrong or resolve a matter over the heads of the underdog people as well as dealing with a host of other matters. For the most part, what they say you ought to expect it to happen since God gave to them what they know.

So, do you believe Black Americans will and should be separated from White American, the halo of racism and the stigma of once being in slavery to White Americans to become a sovereign people on a portion of this continent that Black Americans could call their very own country with borders?

Tell me what you think.

What say you?

ROBINSON IRMA Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM

Mother nature and mankind have a way of mutating over time to be able to survive in their environment, example cycle cell is a natural combatant to maleria...so is the color of the skin say those clostest to the equartor have darker skin while those who live where there is less direct sunshine have ligher skin and hair to allow more viteman D into the body as the body can not produce this... now if you continue to take, put only what you want to take out of what i say then you will continue to deny my saying for ever that "I" am only responsible for M-Y O-W-N cause and efect on my enviornment...I am not and even raised my children that they we separate from me and they were responsible for them selveswhen it came to cause and effect . Or something I doubt if you will ever admit my saying, "I raised my children to be able to survive on their own and to never ever be dependant on someone to do for them things they can do for themselves..like choose where they wanted to buy their own property , choose their life's work, goals, etc.

My point to you Harry is you have not ever said that God asked , inspired you to come on this site and try to hustle up some one to do your job for you...I am only hearing from you and only you what you ARE GOING TO DO as to the rest of us saying what they have done, are doing...and reaching their hands out in friendship...The only person that I see calling belittling names is you, Harry.

ROBINSON IRMA Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM

Steve, I am having a problem with trying to picture you giving up the person that you have spent all of your life striving to be for becoming what someone else wants you to be, N-O-T a seeking mind...but then in the real world I believe we must change to fit in or adjust to our enviornment, by using our abilitys to full fill needs that only you your own self can know...

but, this is coming from me a person who fully believe that thet person is the only expert on themself creats MY bias in this matter.(smile)

ROBINSON IRMA Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM

As, for dependant people they unlike independant peoplewho can delete people who they totally disagree with, but Harry you can not do this...

If you deleted those you disagree with...GUESS WHAT, YOU WOULD BE ALL ALONE WITH ONLY YOU TO LISTEN TO AND AGREE WITH...YOU WOULD BE ALL ALONE(smile)

Have you even watched a science fiction movie where the monster lives off other people's energy???This is what some humans do they must become paricites feeding off of others...cancer is so much of one of these until they end up killing not only its self along with the body they must feed on to exist...this is called self-distruction...

ROBINSON IRMA Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM

If one has to DEPEND on the future/someone else for one's own needs to both survive and be happy, content or expect someone to do for you what you are not willing to do for your self then one will never be 'sovereign(a sanction being)

THAT IS HARRY IF YOU WANT ANY OPINION OTHER THAN Y-O-U-R-S(smile)

ROBINSON IRMA Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM

Brother Steve, "I" rest my case.(smile)

ROBINSON IRMA Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM

And, Steve, did you notice that expression, YOU CAN"?!? Me, I preveer to live my lifeby being the best person I know how to be without a permission of "you can".

this is my natural right to learn by my mistakes,in a manner as a civil and moral right and not by someone saying what "I" can / can not do acourding to theier needs as if i am an extention of them or their personal property!!!!!!(smile)

But, as you have said all along no action...

..and, as I already know there is no input wanted except those that agrees with Harry, I will still take a chance and say Ameica is surounded not by any sea...

ROBINSON IRMA Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM

Harry how have i taken this blog's theme off post?!?

Harry when have i posted a blog that has your name in it's titleas a theme of any of my blogs??????????????????Have you ever heard of 'if the shoe fits wear it'?!!!!!!!!!!????LOL

Harry have you ever heard of FREEDOMS...FREE WILL....FREE THOUGHS....SELF- ESTEEM...LOVING ONES OWN SELF...CHOICE....INDEPENDANCE....ETC.?!?

And my brother Harry only a fool would refuse to walk across a desert for 40 years today when they can fly or drive their dunbuggy here in 2009 and counting. You remind me fo president Bush for all of his time as LEADER it was his conclusion that anyone who did not agree with him were insane...Well it seem that tose who agreed with his leadership are in prison or on their way to prison...tO these kinds of leaders Buddhism states the for ever CAUSE there is an EFFECT.And, "I" take being insane over prison any day not to mention giving up what "I" now have ( using only my hard work to achieve all that "I" ever wanted out of this life time)that you are trying to getand it seems that you can only get from OTHERS SO YOU CAN GET WHAT ARE YOUR GOALS IN THIS LIFE TIME...(SMILE)

ROBINSON IRMA Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM

Now if the truth be told(something that a small mind seem to finds inpossiable to allow in it)the only delete button that I have used when it comes to the Name Harry Watley was the one on the friendship(smile)

ROBINSON IRMA Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM

Harry there is one main thing about a lie and that it is too, too hard to remember the lie and who you told that lie too...

Harry I refer you to your answer to me about no one is an individual /indepedant...you stated the country of Japan to prove your point of this to me...DO YOU REMEMBER THIS, as this goes totally against your reply to brother Mozell just now.(smile)

This is the point of the site to talk to each other and learn something from each and everyone of us on the site..and not to use it to pass judgment on each other by way of belittleing, demeaning them...

ROBINSON IRMA Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM

Well, I guess some of what we learned for the Bible is ether not in your or you have ignored it because all of the Bibles (and, I have a verity of them)that I have says how God made Man in his own image and he "said" that it is good...

You must not be a decendant of slaves, am I correct as you are not mentally damaged??!!??Therefore you must not used Moses as your reference points as he delivered "HIs People"...this makes you and what you were INSPIRED TO DO as having nothing to do with Moses or the God of the White man which he taught to the Black man.(smile)

You seem to be taking what "I" say personally, Why is this, because I am not going on emotional out burst or SUBJECTIVE facts; It is too stressful. "I" am only dialoging as a person has a legal and moral right to do except if they are living under a DICTATOR then what the dictator say, does is the RULE/ LAW OF THE LAND.(smile)

NOW ON TO YOUR N-E-X-T BLOG AS IT WILL BE ONLY MORE OF THE SAME...see I also can predict the future....I just do not base my life on the future of someone elses realitys, hopes and INSPERATIONS...

ROBINSON IRMA Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM

Harry are in in any way disobeying God or have you done what God has told you as you dictated to Steve...no Harry I own you a full apology, because you just now said god has "inspired" you to do this...

It is kind of hard to keep up with these countless changes of yours. Or is it just me who see that this is something God wants you to do ,but then you say that you are going to build a 'country with borders for the decendants of slaves of America...well this is going to be a hard job Harry unless you do not kow the all decendants of Blacks during slavery was not slaves at all ever...Will it once again be up to you to decide who is what before they enter your borders...what about those like some of my sisters and brotherswith natural red hair and gray eyes(I mean my blood as I have mentioned this about them long before and after you came on this site) who can pass for white if they choose. What about them, Harry?!?

but, I gather you will take the easy way out and just say they can't come in because they are mentally ill?(smile)

ROBINSON IRMA Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM

...my bad, some slaves were owned by other Blacks, how do they fit in? all Black females were not "slaves"(in the sense that you speak of) during this time..do you know about the history of those Black mistress in New Orleans back then who lived as rich and powerful women of society as the wives of their sugar daddys went lacking...No I am not trying to put you down as I have nothing to do with this REAL historical period in America...just one who loves to learn about BIA(smile)

ROBINSON IRMA Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM

And, to answer you directly of what "I" got out of the story of Moses is the 10 Commandments...and if "I" may add that as "I" no longer practice 'religeosity' "I" never break not one of them in my daily life...come back????????(smile)

ROBINSON IRMA Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM

I predict that 'someone' has grown tired of their own postings and has gone over to first mineand getting no reaction has now gone to my daughter's.LOL I only wonder why never any MEN????????????(smile)

ROBINSON IRMA Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM

"WHOW THERE HARRY where did you get me being a teacher from, because you sure did not get that from me.LOL, but, my bad you know all, even if it does not exist or maybe you plan to make me a 'teacher' in your land with borders?!?

No I am not dialoguing with you as I have stopped this until your next blog of the same old same old, just became way beyond being nosey about this profession or label or what ever you choose to place this about me the 'teacher"


It is not me but you who have now redefined SOVEREIGNor is it true that YOU Bible is not here so while you wait you are using the one of the White man's? I may be wrong but Jews do not use Bibles?!?(in you last comment if you and only you will be able to say a person can and can not be /have as that person themselves...or will you be creating the brain workings also???Just asking(smile)

Why would a person write a blog any way asking queston if each and every question, answer or word that does not come from them is rejected...Now here is where I will agree with you about all but you are insane...a person doing the same ting over and over again is insane...we keep trying to get through to you and we keep getting the same old same old exact the same thing only under a different named blog on BIA...so once again here I do agree with you about us all being insane or have a mental defect(smile)

ROBINSON IRMA Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM

why are you asking me taht question unless it is related to how you call me a teacher...The story of Moses according to WHICH Bible/ which religious beliefs as there are endless versions. I do admit taht I have never read or studed the Torah in the Muslim or the Jewish faith so if I am not deemed menatl for asking you to be more spicific as I do ot like changing things around to suit the moment...this is not personal like my future depends on it...remember I practice a Buddhist PHILOSOPHY about living one minuate at a time and (to never stop seeking knowledge)not jumping of into the future/unknown on someone elses needs to make their lives worth living as my present in time.O.K?

WHICH VERSION OF THE STORY OF MOSES AND FROM WHICH BIBLE...I did understand you to say a few coments back that the Bible you were to follow was not with you yet??????????

ROBINSON IRMA Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM

...now brother Harry as you ponder that I will now ask if you want the version of the story of Moses as the one in Greek / Roman mythology, or as the people who study the Bible and the story of Moses according to the social culture of that time by way of archology or from some debates by Biblical scholors that are on the learning channels all of the time...

This has to do with when we ask you all of the time to be spicific you say we are attacking, doubting you and every other negative and nasty name you can come up with...people who deal in facts then to do this...but it is hard to try and answer your questions even because your facts keep chinging...you have now gone from God has no voice to now he does have a voice for othes...does this make them more or less Black, less or more up on the mental scale?????YOUR MENATAL SCALE MEASURMENT.....

ROBINSON IRMA Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM

Harry I am not dificult it is just that you can not see past your own needs. example, I asked you what version did you mean and you proceeded to tel me qhat to do..."...use the King James..."

"...A-L-L black Americans..."which means that you do not know our American president nor have you ever heard of him?!? But, even more LOGICAL is there is no way that you can know A-L-L Black Americans if you do not know about our President.(smile)

Harry you are mistaken about you are dealing with me as you are in reality dealing with history/facts/the unknowable...

ROBINSON IRMA Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM

I will be leaving also. but, Harry the only way you can get rid of me is to d-e-l-e-t-e and violate your own leadership by allowing me to control your actions or that you stop stalking me all over this site and making comments to me there...the choice is your, Harry's because you have just proven that you will not be listening to God about the decantant of slaves....I shall remind you of this each time you follow me on this site or any of my friends...this is the POWERS OF I-R-M-A.(smile)

You see Harry I have every thing I need right now at this moment and I just predicted your future.....

ROBINSON IRMA Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM

Now please take note of how "I" keep saying that emotional proofs must changE to fit the given state...

1. to me you just said ALL BLACK AMERICANS.

2. to Steve you said ALL BLACK AMERICANS WHO ARE DECENDANTS OF SLAVES.

This is also related to my saying before on this very blog about one must remember the lie they told and who they told it to,remember this my brother.but, then you do not have to do this as you take only what you want from what others say any way...thus having nothieng to do with the real world, correct?!?

It was you who decided the comments should not be deleted as you make your rounds from blog to blog saying how wrong deleting is(smile)

ROBINSON IRMA Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM

YOur problem with me is I know a lot of versions of the story of Moses, and have chosen to do so because I want to learn by way of using an open mind...I did not read not one of them for someones else's depeandancy on me to make them satisfied or disatisfied by what I learned or did not learn from reading one or many of the storys of Moses. Your future or your security in life may be depeandant on how my mind works / how and what I got out of reading MORE THEN ONE AS A RESORCE THAT WAS MY CHOICE in any way was done for you, or in any way about you.Please trust me in this...because my future unlike yours does not need anyone's agreeing or disagreeing with me...I love my self therefore I had a live before seening your private conclusions about me and I certainly am not here for you to love, judge or do any thing for me or against me...this is on you not me.(smile)

OH, and about a closed mind, as they would not be able to be able to take in how those in Israel are in total differences on the settlements in Gaza and the Israel's skinheads are beating and causing much harm to other fellow Israelis...an open mind is able to accept that no one person is the exact same as another person in thought, deed, likes, dislikes, and so on and so forth(smile)

P-E-A-C-E...O-U-T...YES WE CAN...

ROBINSON IRMA Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM

Harry it was you who said what God wants,inspired you to do...well, I am a decendant of slaves and which is it you would much rather PASS ON GOD than do what he has INSPIRED YOU TO DO FOR THE DECENDANTS OF SLAVES ?!?

does this give the Prophets a bad name this giving up and it being caused by one lone female at that....but it is your life and your private dealsing with how you have chosen to ignore what God has inspired you to do or not??????

Oh well...

ROBINSON IRMA Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM

...OOps, my bad, if "I" am insane and you are sane then why are you concerned(?) about how YOU AND I DOTALK ABOUT THE SAME THINGS as this should be "automatic" as a logical conclusion..D-U-H(smile)

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