How many Lies

Hello Mr. Watson,

I believe this is how you should look at the situation.

Blacks have always been very lazy, mentally speaking. The gun at its pinnacle was a marvel of technology as perhaps computers were as they first came out. Therefore, the gun was not a bad piece of technology. It showed how advanced Whites are over Blacks. The melanin has nothing to do with it. We are simply backwards people. However, our ignorance and backwardness are ending.

Not only were the African Blacks ignorant and backwards people from the time God created them, the Native American Indians were as well. The Native American Indians paid a heavy price for being ignorant and backwards for thousands of years.

You need to blame yourselves for not having any interest to study how God creation works and how you could use it to advance and improve the quality of your lives.

Black Americans, who are descendents of slaves, will soon become a sovereign people on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders. American Blacks will never be behind in technology. Our whining, complaining, and making excuses for our shortcomings, are also ending.

I am the way, and besides me, there is no other way for Black Americans ever to become real people in this world.

What say you?

your comments are disturbing but not surprising, when i spoke of the gun I did not say anything about the west it was used long before the west was won. I am letting people know that their self worth has been compromised and we can do better.as long as we struggle to do so. I am sorry that your view of blacks in america is so dim brother, you are right it is getting better maybe when all the old ways have died. but until that time each one teach one to live better even if just a little to aspire to what ever they think they want to be. ya feel me?

Hello Mr. Watson,

Firstly, my comment should not be disturbing since what I said, is the absolute truth.

Secondly, you are a bit confused about reality. You said this, “With a gift, come a price, and that is the suffering that we have endured.” Our suffering is due to mental laziness of not wanting to advance and improve the quality of life for ourselves for hundreds of thousands of years. For instance, non-White countries are scrambling to acquire nuclear technology since they see what White countries are capable of doing to them based on the Iraqi war.

Next, you said that, “This single weapon has changed life, as we know it. It was the gun that put us in bondage, and under their control, has kept our rate of growth low because we are killing each other with it for them.”

You fail to understand that the bottom line of our suffering and the advent of the gun are due to technology of the White race to advance and improve the quality of their lives, while Blacks and other non-White race showed mental laziness. In other words, everything is about brain working. I do not understand how you would disagree with me.

Anyway, the solutions you suggested is obsolete, such as rubble bullets.

Our only permanent solution ever to become a real people is to desire to become a sovereign people on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country, with borders.

What say you?

History has taught us that these people did not come by this power and wealth on their intelect alone, america is hated through out the world because they have lied to and tricked and cheated and stole from everybody. so they are not as smart or as strong as we are ( because after all they have done to us WE ARE STILL HEAR) but for us to separate and condense ourselves in one territory is too risky because it gives them just one target, and they can do water, food, or sky and get us all at one time. there are certain groups that would love that idea. and they are not black.
Law enforcement in the US are still experimenting with non lethal means of bring subjects under control. my push is to get this in place sooner than later so that less black men will die at the hands of the police when they see a black man reaching for a cell phone. on the mental laziness lets look at that you see I'm sure that this is a direct result of blacks being controlled by a manipulating group of people who are afraid of being over run by blacks or worse becoming black.

Hello Mr. Watson,

Mr. Watson, after all, that is said and done by you, you are not promoting that Black Americans, who are descendents of slaves become real people in this world as other real people are.

For example, the Venezuelans, American Whites, French and Chinese people are real people in this world. American Blacks are not real people, and you are not promoting that Black Americans become real people, that is my point.

You are pushing an inferior policy that American Blacks should adopt to survive against the superior forces of American Whites, such as the rubble bullets deal. This type of inferiority policy is to accept surviving on your knees rather than living on your feet as an upright man. In other words, you would rather see Black men with their backs bent that would make the ride more comfortable for White men as Dr. King once said.

Secondly, you express an overwhelming amount of fear of White America when you said this, “but for us to separate and condense ourselves in one territory is too risky because it gives them just one target,”

Our sovereignty is not the same as separation. Likewise, the Exodus of the Hebrew people, who was led out of bondage by Moses, was not a concept of separation from Pharaoh and the Egyptian people. It was the Hebrew people becoming a real people in the ancient world. Our sovereignty represents Black Americans becoming a real people in the modern world. There is a significant difference between the concept of separation and sovereignty.

You express more fear for White America than what good will you have for yourself and own people. You are a classic case of a person suffering from the Stockholm syndrome. This psychological disorder is an accredited course in psychology.

What say you?

Harry,

Because of what the BIA and the NOI taught me I have been able to sustain myself in this world, but you wrestled so much with the knowledge we share and what you have seen personally and you have not found nothing to supersede our works. So in remembering the knowledge we share daily on BIA and what NOI has taught me you cannot continue to deny us. You like Minister Farrakhan said are "truly turning hypocrite to your lord and savior".

One thing that is true you chastise people like me, Irma and Johnny because you don’t want to give up your relationship with the White God. It is not my Farrakhan and NOI posts only. But in your mind you think you are doing the right thing. We unabashedly share our knowledge of Black Americans with the people that we love and you chastise our works all because of your own personal wants.

I don’t know of many folk my age that is aware of the plight of Black America as it stands today and you should be shameful in your attempts to discredit our works. It is time you tell the truth and be honest with yourself, you feel a need to so-call expose us because you have a thirst for ignorance that you dont want to give up with the White God.

There are still things that you don’t understand such as my use of foul language but the TRUTH of what I have taught so far supersedes the foul language. But we can’t focus on that we have to focus on the lies that you have told. I only pray that you grow tired of the lies that you have told. I know that with the banning of you from my NOI women's group the present and new NOI members were not to see you in your stupidity and someday you will thank me for protecting you from that. I know that what may have seemed evil and threatening as far as me banning you from the NOI women's group was indeed a PROTECTION for you.

I also know that the weakness in you had to be exposed several times on the BIA and my NOI group so that when you taught the people it would be from INTELLIGENCE and WISDOM and not from PERSONALISM. Something that still bothers our people from childhood. But its about you and how you betray what we are doing for the people. So again I pray that God guide you out your defiance toward what we're doing for the liberation of all our Black people.

You have a passion for ignorance and it rules you and you continue fulfilling your taste for this substance. Even though you don’t remember what you did or said under the influence of the White God you cannot stop doing it at the time. I would see posts and read emails that you sent that I cannot believe are coming from the mind of a 65 year old BLACKMAN. I would ask my BIA friends 'what is wrong with Harry why is he attacking us' and they would read the post like I would read them. I would say 'damn why can’t Harry just leave us alone and let us teach as we see fit' but I came to the conclusion that you attack because you are under the influence of the White God but you're too embarrassed and ashamed to let anybody else know.

You are too embarrassed to apologize for your posts right now but in your heart you don’t want that to be posted. I asked why you refuse to admit an confess to the wrong that you are doing to us but no you have another spirit that rules you right now and has a mind of it’s own. So I decided that from this point I will pray and ask God to bless you to be done with this other spirit (White God/Devil) speaking for you.

So I know it’s just a day Harry it's just a day but hey you and your imps both have to start sometime. And for the former NOI members who aid you there is no excuse for you either. All of you should be tired of making world wide web fools of yourselves.

Signing Off,

Siebra

Great post Brother keep up the good work!!!

thank you for appreciating the words given to me to share with all of you. it had gotten to the point of me not wanting to continue this debate with Mr. Watley he is the perfect example of a black man used to catch and enslave his own people because he believes them to be inferior, and we all know that this is called self hatred. I pray that his eyes will someday be open before he leaves this life and understand. that we really are a great people, and though we have been used and abused we still ascend and it will continue despite those who have not yet been enlightened,

Hello Mr. Watson,

Ms. Muhammad is jerking you legs. She know who I am.

But, as far as you are concern, you know that we are an inferior people as the Hebrew were inferior to the Egyptian people until God sent Prophet Moses who brought out of their inferiority and bondage. Before you could be brought of your mental and physical inferiorty you must come to recognize your short comings first, am I right. Tell you what you think.

What say you?

"Tell you what you think". I think hat's what they call a Freudian slip, Harry.

Harry, this is not productive, I refuse to continue this very unwelcome banter. you have showed your self to be what most of us fear. one that has been so corrupted by the system that at this point you are of no earthly use to anyone. and let me tell you sir it hurts me to say that because my parents did not raise me like that. my words are a positive reinforcement to help those that are ready to give up, so that they might find the will to keep going, please be courteous enough to let it go, so that we can move on to other important topics.

Steve what do you mean when you say a Freudian? I compared and contrasted or I say I checked my self aganist the story of Moses and fine myself to be perfectly in order, mentally speaking. Tell me what you think.

What say you?

Mr. Watson,

Your comments of me are more on the emotional side than on the of wisdom. Please, think through the things you say. I know that I am right because I check myself with Moses and God was with Moses. Therefore, if you feel that I am wrog, then God is wrong. I want what God gave to Moses. Do you find fault in me for that, Mr Watson?

Tell me what you think.

What say you?

Harry, what I meant was this: you usually say "tell me what you think", which I am sure is what you meant to say above (at the end of your post, just above mine). But what yoy said was "tell you what you think", which is what we call a Freudian slip. It means you unintentionally told on yourself, in that, that is how many of your comments come across, as you are really telling others what to think, rather than really asking for their opinion to check and modify your own.

Now here is a thing Harry, I have certain things that I differ with from what is posted by others on this site. I will occasionally express these differences but I respect others feelings and will not repeatedly bring them up on every post I make. That is the way to dissension, and also not a good way to learn from each other.

Hello Steve,

Okay, I understand your Freudian slip. I see it as a type-o error.

Tell me what you think.

What say you?

I do truly believe that Change has come to our justice system that is now demanding that there are out side investigations of any police person's in their cover-up s and excuses for these 'over kills' of our Black males and even our females.

But, it is my belief also that having a Black president has given us a new / renewed sense of pride against killing each other in our own neighborhoods as has been done. A lot of the killings are done to gain 'pride', attention and yes easy wealth and social standingswithout much work and planning for a positive, constructive future for that individual or their neighborhood in the REAL WORLD...

great post Johnny(smile)

In truth the gun did not win the WEST. Alcohol won the west and it seem in tis da and age illegal and also some legal drugs is today's killer and not the bullet...

Lies can only be allowed to over run the TRUTH only as long as "some" of us continue to 'believe' the lies.Even a blank in a gun can kill...