What are the differences between Black intelligence and White intelligence?

Harry, all I need to read on this one is the title. If it is not obvious to you the answer...

Excuse, me, the CORRECT answer.

You know Harry, I just can't leave it at that. I have seen far more intelligence here on this site than the typical white thought process. I think you need to stop being so disrespectful.

Hello Steve,

Who am I being disrepectful to?

When you say the intelligence of blacks is less than whites. (Leaving aside such words as knucklehead and stupid.)

Also, what is this you are now talking about Black Americans AND dark skin people? Have you ever heard a white person talk about "jungle bunnies" Do you intend to be SO OFFENSIVE!!!!????

Forgive me everyone, if I am once again getting too out there!

And when you say it is not about genetics that does not excuse you.

Hello Steve,

You seem to fall into the category that I have described a race and a person lacking intelligence. One of the criteria of judging intelligence I mentioned is being able to talk about one thing and agree on simple common sense items. I also said knuckleheads, meaning unintelligent individuals come in all races. It seems this blog pulled you out of hiding to expose your lack of intelligences.

My blog is about intelligence and how it could be measured. However, you are talking about the word knucklehead and stupid. Incidentally, I did not use the word stupid in my blog. Apparently, you are seeing words that are not in my blog.

Steve you are exhibiting symptoms of below average intelligence. Consequentially, you happen to be one of the few Whites left behind.

If what I said here could perhaps bring you to understanding, the gist of my blog I would be anxious if you have the intelligence to present some hard facts to show that I am wrong. I am not into anger and emotions. So, see if you could do better than you are doing now, okay.

What say you?

Hello Harry,

Let me attempt a more civil response.

I will present this hard evidence: I do not have the intelligence to match our President's

Hello Steve,

My previous post still holds true that you are below average intelligence and you are in the minority of White people that lack intelligence.

I am saying this because you think that I am President Obama. You and I are in dialogue and not President Obama. It is I that you are matching wits with and not President Obama.

In other words, you need to forget about President Obama and concern yourself with me.

I said that my blog was about intelligence and you thought it was about the word knucklehead. Furthermore, you should apologize to me, since you thought that I used the word stupid and I did not.

What say you?

Hello Harry,

I will admit and apologize to you for my lack of civility.

Will you apologize to sister Siebra for this comment on my blog - The Stigma of Slavery?

"Do you not think that your statement is out-right stupid, especially for a college graduate?"

Now, to the point of intelligence. I will submit it is a lack of intelligence to make sweeping generalities about the relative intelligence of blacks and whites, which was my point about Obama. Why has he not signed onto your plan, because his IQ is less than 68?

By the way, I am pretty sure my IQ is higher than 68, but regardless, it is high enough to know that yours is also higher than 68. But in point of fact, I was never told what my IQ is. And I think anyway it should be called BIQ, Bogus Intelligence Quotient. I do not think it has sufficient scientific validity to be given any weight.

Now what is the point of this debate about intelligence? It is just your need to be right, no different than Glenn Beck really.

And remember Moses, it was one or both of two things that he struck the rock twice: pride, or lack of faith.

Hello Steve,

Again, I do not know where you are trying to take me. My blog is about, what are the differences between Black and White intelligence.

I laid out my scenario and provide my factual support. Have I done anything wrong?

I am now waiting for someone to say that I am wrong and show that I am wrong or accept that I am right and make some positive comments.

Do you agree with me?

What say you?

Hello Harry,

You can't be wrong as you simply asked the question what is the difference between black and white intelligence. The answer is simply there is no difference.

Will you apologize to Siebra? Now don't try to make the fine distinction between saying her statement was stupid, not her. That is a bogus distinction.

And don't try to avoid this request, as I can bring it up an equal number of times as you you do a country with borders. I have apologized to you, be a man and do the same for her.

QUOTE FROM FREDERICK DOUGLASS: "In all of your getting, get understanding".

Harry, since you refuse to get it, what you have chosen to adhere to has caused you and your "cheerleaders" to loose your intelligence while you all live and have without knowing, ended any possibility for the after-life.

Because of your lack of understanding, you try to compare all of the BIA members to people suffering from, as you call it, Stockholm syndrome. It is not going to happen Harry. After all of your rhetoric about Black Americans? If you don't remember ANYTHING that I shared with you, remember this: IGNORANCE IS NOT BLISS.

We are individuals aiding people towards salvation, liberation, and freedom. And guiding a person towards liberation and freedom means present FACTS not insults, disrespect or lies. The Bible and Quran states "Rid Yourself of laziness, be smart and productive" that means produce something other than lies, disrespect, mud slinging, dirty laundry, dysfunctional families and self hatred for the Blackman and woman.

One thing that is true; YOUR thoughts and ways are not that of a sovereign person. So, that automatically makes it impossible to judge ANYTHING coming from you.

Hello Ms. Muhammad,

I will tell you straight-up Siebra that I am going treat you as I treat Ms. Irma.

But, first let me explain myself. Ms. Irma never talks about the issue or the topic. Ms. Irma never answers any questions. Ms. may answer a question, but it never pertains to the issue. Needless to say, that Ms. Irma and I are never on the same page. Since this is the case, the kind of dialoguing that I have with Ms. Irma is stupid and I do not wish to engage in stupid dialogues. In other words, Ms. Irma and I have never had a coherent dialogue. I got to the point that I do not bother with Ms. Irma any more, because she purposely behaviors and act ignorant only towards me and she boasts about it.

Now, my last communication with you is that I asked you if you knew the differences between what is liberation and sovereignty. I have asked you this question many of times and you will not answer me. So, I am forced to stop going around in circles with you. I do not like this type of dialoguing. It is not right and it is not fair to me.

When any one asks me a question, I always answer them. I am honest and up-right about all my answers.

Now, I am not going to respond because we are not getting anywhere with each other.

However, let me share this with you. After Jumar today, I was speaking to the Imam. I asked him why it is that the Quran is written in Arabic. He said, because Prophet Mohammed spoke Arabic. I said you are right. I, then asked him what does this mean to you? However, I quickly said let me answer my own question and you could correct me if you think that I am wrong. I said what it tells me is that what Allah gave to Prophet Mohammed was especially for the Arabian people. He then said that the Quran says Oh, mankind, which refers to everybody. I said that phase, Oh, mankind is just a salutation to other races that does not have a prophet of their own yet or any one who wishes to leave his own legitimate religion could come to Islam. However, I told him that he was not an Arab man and that I am his prophet. He replied, that me to mines and he to his. I told him that I have what is his and he has what belongs to the Arabian people. He had nothing else to say. As he was leaving, he asked me what it is that I am doing. Anyway, next Friday I will see him again.

Tell me what you think. If your reply is going to be nonsense, please do not reply. I love tough dialoguing when I have to do exact thinking. I hate criticism.

What say you?

According to the Nation of Islam, Allah, (God) created man, and the man he created was black. They believe that Allah himself is the original and supreme black man. He is the supreme being among a mighty and powerful race of black men. In this The Nation of Islam differs strongly with the monotheism of traditional Islam.

One of the most frequent of assumptions of the Nation of Islam is that it is a racist organization. Everything negative and bad that has happened to the black man is attributed to the white man. The NOI believes that Christianity is a white man's religion, and is not an appropriate religion for any black person. The natural and true religion of the black man is Islam as defined by the Nation of Islam. The sad social and economic plight of the black man can be blamed on the white man. The white man has robbed the black of his true heritage by forcing the teachings of Christianity upon them while they were slaves. By forsaking the slave master's religion and turning to Islam, they are reclaiming their true religion. Thus, Christianity becomes the religion of slavery for the black. The Nation of Islam encourages the elevation of the black race above all others, and the disparagement of the white race. The Nation of Islam is not accepted or recognized as Islamic by any other religious sect because it is considered by many religious sects that it is a racist/prejudiced organization.

P.S. For further clarity on this subject, I encourage you to purchase and read the book "Religion of Islam or Nation of Islam: What Is The Difference?" by Mustafa El-Amin. Hopefully after reading this book (VERY CAREFULLY AND WITHOUT RUSHING, THAT IS), you will be properly relieved of your Post-Traumatic Slave Disorder. And hopefully you will come back to BIA with a different attutude and NOT try to find everything in your power to prove our members minds and our thinking wrong.

Hello Ms. Muhammad,

I am going to respond to the points you raised and show you how and where you are wrong. Now, if you choose to reply, please do it with out any ranting, raging, criticism and false accusations. If you are going to be intelligence and rational in your reply, I am not going to be bother.

Now, you said this, “According to the Nation of Islam, Allah, (God) created man, and the man he created was black.”
This comment is correct, and this is why. Dark skinned people possess dominant genes.

You said this, “They believe that Allah himself is the original and supreme black man.”
The NOI believes wrong. No man could be God; neither would God be a man. God begets not, nor is God begotten and there is nothing as liken unto God. To believe as the NOI believes that God is man it would be sufficient to say that man created man and to say such a thing is utter foolish and irrational.

You said this, “The Nation of Islam differs strongly with the monotheism of traditional Islam.”
If God had anointed the NOI, it would have had its own name and not had to borrow the name Islam from the Arabian people, period. Consequentially, the NOI is a bastard religion and organization as well as Christianity. The Pakistani man, Mr. Fard Muhammad established the NOI through Mr. Elijah Muhammad. Paul of the New Testament established Christianity in Antioch soon after Jesus was crucified.

You said this, “One of the most frequent of assumptions of the Nation of Islam is that it is a racist organization.”
The comment is correct. The NOI is a racist religious organization. Mr. Elijah established the NOI on racism by referring to White Americans as devils, Yacub’s people, and that they will be destroyed after 6000 years. Now, had Elijah stuck to the wrongs they done to us with out the racist names it could not be said that the NOI is racist. White American people admit that they have greatly sinned against us.

You said this, “Everything negative and bad that has happened to the black man is attributed to the white man.”
This comment is not true. Not every Black man is a Black American man who is a descendent of slaves. The dark skinned man in New Guanine, White America has never done any wrongs to those people. In other words, not all dark skinned people are the same people. Not all black birds are crows. Some black birds are raven birds.

You said this, “ The NOI believes that Christianity is a white man's religion, and is not an appropriate religion for any black person.”
That is a correct statement. However, the same is true for the religion of Islam.

You said this, “The natural and true religion of the black man is Islam as defined by the Nation of Islam.”
This comment is not true. The religion of Islam belongs to the Arabian people. Prophet Mohammed was an Arab man and since we know that Allah raises up prophets from among their own kind the religion of Islam solely belongs to the Arabian people, with out a doubt. Further, more, Black Americans are a new breed or race of people that have emerged out of the ashes of slavery. We should presently have no religion until we have a prophet from God first, and we do have our first own genuine prophet is Mr. Harry Watley. Therefore, our religion is forth coming.

Lastly, the book that Mr. Mustafa El-Amin wrote, he does not know what he is talking about when is comes to Black Americans who are descendents of slaves. You have learned enough from me that you could give knowledge and understanding to Mr. Mustafa.

Tell me what you think.

Hello Ms. Muhammad,

I said to you that our only permanent solution is our sovereignty on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country to pursue Life, Liberty, Happiness and Prosperity in our own way. I further said that Mr. Farrakhan do not promote the sovereignty of Black Americans.

The dialoguing between you and I is strictly about sovereignty, liberation and Mr. Farrakhan buy farmlands from White American that Black Americans could never really own, which is the NOI and your solution.

I asked you if you knew the differences between the two concepts, sovereignty and liberation. You constantly avoid answering me. However, when you ask me any questions, I would answer you. Consequentially, I am having a dysfunctional dialogue with you, which is going nowhere. I do not wish to dialogue like, period. This dysfunctional dialoguing with you has been going on for months, now. I cannot handle this kind of ignorance. In other words, I cannot reason with you.

I am asking for some sort of intellectual civility from you to turn our dialoguing from dysfunctional to functional.

To put what I am saying in a nutshell is to say this; we are talk on the same topic, Black Americans, the NOI and our only permanent solution. However, when I ask you any questions in an effort to fine-tune our dialogue you avoid answering me. Consequentially, you could never get on the same page as I am. Therefore, our dialoguing is dysfunctional.

Nothing that you are saying makes any sense.

Hello Ms. Muhammad,

I must say that your language for a so-called Muslim woman is terrible. However, I do not need to make an issue of the vile way you expresses yourself. I hope that you will become a more refined woman in the future.

You asked me this question, “Why are you sooooo afraid to show PROOF as to what you are doing to help bring this sovereignity thing about (such as building colleges, medical centers, farmlands, houses of worship, etc.)? I'll tell you why: BECAUSE THERE ISN'T ANY!!!”

Apparently, you do not understand when I say that we are going to become a sovereign people on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to pursue Life, Liberty, Happiness and Prosperity in our own way for ourselves.

Since we are not a sovereign people as of yet, anything I do I will be doing it in the country of White America. Now, would that not be defeating the purpose of sovereignty? Did Moses build anything in the country of Egypt for the Hebrew people? No, he did not.

Do you not think it would be wise to be sovereign first before building any colleges, medical centers, farmlands and houses of worship? Furthermore, do you not think it would be wise to have our own religion and not the religion of the Arabian people before we build any houses of worship?

You really do not believe that I am Black America’s first genuine prophet, and that is all right. Well, consider my intelligence in the order in which things should to be done. Do I not have it in the right order? I said that we need to be sovereign first and we will. Does it make sense to you that our colleges and medical centers should be in our country of sovereignty? Did I not explain to you the portion of this continent that we will inherit?

Ms. Muhammad you need to slowdown to understand what it is that I am saying. What I know Mr. Farrakhan is doing is building something for Black Americans in White America’s country and it will never work out Black Americans. Am I right?

Tell me which you think.

Hello Ms. Muhammad,

Did I not specifically say in my in my post that I did not want to make an issue out of your vile expression and you turn right around to make an issue of it. What is wrong with you?

The issue is that you asked me to show proof of what I am doing to bring about the sovereignty of Black Americans. You went on to ask me why I am not building colleges, medical centers, farmlands and house of worship. I said to you that before these things could be done, Black Americans need to be a sovereign people on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders. Unless we secure our sovereignty first, all that we do will be done in vain. For instance, the farmlands that Mr. Farrakhan purchases ultimately are still the property of White America.

Now, what I am doing is planting the seed of sovereignty in the minds of our people. I am doing what a prophet does and that is to prepare our people for a tremendous change ahead of us. Did not Moses prepare his people for the change of the coming Exodus? Mr. Farrakhan is not preparing Black Americans for anything. What Mr. Farrakhan wants is for Black Americans to improve their conditions in White America by improving their communities. Perhaps if we paint our houses and sweep around our yards it would satisfy Mr. Farrakhan, but it will not satisfy me. Mr. Farrakhan is not anointed, but I am.

So again, I am not going to dialogue with you on silly things, such as how you express yourself. I want to dialogue on more important things. I want to dialogue on things that are relevant in the short term and long term of our people.

There is a lot of work I have to do because you all a dead people, mentally speaking. You all think it is all right to build Black America’s foundation in the house of White America and that is an entirely ignorant thing to do.

Minister Farrakhan has a slave mentality that he cannot focus on a country but instead he focuses on a community. He has a dead mind, and I am here to raise him from a dead level to a perpendicular.

What say you?

Harry, have you corresponded with Mr Farrakhan about this?

Hello Steve,

I have corresponded with Mr. Farrakhan’s organization (NOI) and some of his ministers and countless members. I am sure he is aware of the things that I say. However, as far as directly corresponding with him not yet.

Mr. Farrakhan cannot promote the sovereignty of Black Americans because he is not the Chosen One. Only the Chosen One could talk about Black Americans sovereignty because only that person in of all the 41 million Black Americans that God have anointed, and that person is yours truly.

Similarly only one Hebrew could talk about the Exodus since Moses was the only person of all the Hebrew people who was anointed. Am I making any sense to you?

Incidentally, I believe I recognize why you ask me this question. You have compared and contrasted his philosophy to my philosophy I have concluded that mines is stronger than his.

Tell me what you think.