THE AMERICA "I" NEVER KNEW...If you have not gone on Youtube to see those comments

Sister, don't be scared just keep your eyes open. Its not about race as much as it is about Capitalism, and stopping the middle class in all races. The big fish eat the little fish in the water, so the little fish travel in schools. Yes, fish have a science
to their survival and we must work on better survival skills just like the fish.

I agree sister irma.
1 point:
Governor David Patterson of NY has governed a state in the top ten in nations of the World, he has balanced budgets two years straight, he has not laid of state workers like 25 smaller states have, he has not stopped the education of children like 21 other states have, he runs successfully a State bigger than Gov. Palin, Gov. Hucabee, Gov. Romney, Gov. Pawlenty, Gov. Seibius, Gov. Napolitano, Gov. Granholm--COMBINED; YET WE DO NOT STAND WITH THE GREATEST ADMINISTRATOR OTHER THAN OUR LEADER PRESIDENT BARAKA HUSSEIN OBAMA.----
Majority Americans like beck and russ, hanity, cops next door, fbi on the phone, do not have a problem with race---WE DO.......ask Siebra............
BIA agree with the intellectually challenged and lazy that mock and abuse Gov. Patterson---whose only know infraction is colorblindness--
I for one call him the 2nd greatest american administrator of my lifetime.
Wake up and Change, I heard Beck and he asked his audience. "what change"--that would mean that something was wrong before;
BIA of all americans should acknowledge that it was not perfect peaches and cream pre-Baraka Hussein Obama.
Irma, we are the people we have been waiting for.

Again we are a people that were taught to be subservient slaves--my point in this post is that a blind man, is in trouble. He looks like us, HE IS DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB, yet we subserviently sit around and watch others attack and ridicule him. Siebra likes to do the same to me but I understand the mentality of the slave girl that had to go to master-and to be perfectly honest most BIA light colors are due to slave girls succumbing to master.

I refer to the slave of 1864-shackled in mind and spirit--and the 'free' slave of 1865-2009----This 'free' BIA has perpetrated the greatest crime against humanity ever witnessed---
How does the 'free' slave of 1865 choose with the master--takes his name, religion, ideas, and tells HISTORY, rape, degradation, inhumanity is what I want for future generations of my people?
I will not be called an African/America-I will not be referred to as a color-black. I will not ask master for civil rights, human rights like Jesse, Sharpton and negros.
I, am fortunate, as Our Leader President Baraka Hussein Obama to never have to associate myself with the, "I am victim"-- crowd, the new school crowd, the "one day lawdy" crowd, "If they would only give me a chance crowd"--"If they BWD crowd"---I am with Our Leader President Baraka Hussein Obama, no, "race" has nothing to do with a man life.
I am a man, whose achievement in this society is what men do, I am not and will not be associated with 3 million criminals that should be in jail, I am not and will not be associated with the filthy and decadent communities of Atlanta, philly, ny, cleveland, pittsburg, boston, la, new orleans, milwauke, chicago, etc. where people that look like me stroll their neighborhoods giving each other, their wives, and children alcohol, drugs, gunshots, black eyes, fatherless homes, hiv infected women and children----Oh no.
they are 'we"-'a people'---hippity hoppity, rap, pants wearing new school JUNK:
YOU, Not ME.
My brother, passes for white in his mind,and he is one of you: my momma is white and she is one of you !
BLACK in the dictionary of christian english means black- [blak]

1. lacking hue and brightness; absorbing light without reflecting any of the rays composing it.
2. characterized by absence of light; enveloped in darkness: a black night.
3. a. pertaining or belonging to any of the various populations characterized by dark skin pigmentation, specifically the dark-skinned peoples of Africa, Oceania, and Australia.
b. African-American.
4. soiled or stained with dirt: That shirt was black within an hour.
5. gloomy; pessimistic; dismal: a black outlook.
6. deliberately; harmful; inexcusable: a black lie.
7. boding ill; sullen or hostile; threatening: black words; black looks.
8. (of coffee or tea) without milk or cream.
9. without any moral quality or goodness; evil; wicked: His black heart has concocted yet another black deed.
10. indicating censure, disgrace, or liability to punishment: a black mark on one's record.
11. marked by disaster or misfortune: black areas of drought; Black Friday.
12. wearing black or dark clothing or armor: the black prince.
13. based on the grotesque, morbid, or unpleasant aspects of life: black comedy; black humor.
14. done or written in black to indicate, as on a list, that which is undesirable, sub-standard, potentially dangerous, etc.: Pilots put a black flag next to the ten most dangerous airports.
15. illegal or underground: The black economy pays no taxes.
16. showing a profit; not showing any losses: the first black quarter in two years.
17. deliberately false or intentionally misleading: black propaganda.
18. British. boycotted, as certain goods or products by a trade union.
19. in the form in which it comes from the rolling mill or forge; unfinished.
BLACK-not ME-To describe a group by color is ridiculous and I dont think like you, and I do not worship creator like you, and I came to this internet site cause I thought it had something to do with CNN-Soledad-and had I know a witch named Siebra would censor and delete my thoughts-and that a group would give her 47,000 blog subscriptions-BIA queen---I would never have been touched by any of you.
I apologize for any misunderstanding and I have had a great opportunity to interact but YOU PEOPLE---are not helping the Greatest Leader of All Time; Our President Baraka Hussein stands for change of pre-2009 American and that means YOU PEOPLE and I----Thank you

But Robert, they 'a people' all dark faces at that school, all children, do they just walk out of their neighborhoods and become freemen based on will alone? I think they need help, all over the world, people need help.

Hello Robert,

You said this, “YOU PEOPLE---are not helping the Greatest Leader of All Time; Our President Baraka Hussein stands for change of pre-2009 American and that means YOU PEOPLE and I----”

Let me ask you this question Robert, what happens after President Obama leaves office assuming he will serve two terms? I mean, what will happen to all this excitement that you have?

What I see is that your excitement is for eight years, at best. Black Americans need a permanent solution. The only permanent solution for Black Americans is to become a sovereign people or have complete independence from White America on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way.

I believe that it is about time that intelligent people as you are should be thinking about Black Americans having complete independence. Am I right?

Tell me what you think.

Hello to everyone,

Ms. Irma’s blog suggests no remedy for what she whines and complains about and it baffles me that you all do not recognize it.

This is what Ms. Irma said, “What will it be tomorrow, because I can not see any thing more horrorful than this national and international attack on our innocent children whose only crime is being proud of their race and O-U-R accomplishments as BLACK IN AMERICA!!!!!”

Since Irma is asking, what would be tomorrow and that she is horrified should tell everyone that she does not have a solution. All that she is doing is blah, blah and more blah. In other words, she is just constantly whining and complaining. You all should be looking for a permanent solution.

Irma is whining and complaining as Black Americans has done for ages.

What is our permanent solution is the question I pose to you so-called heavy hitters of intelligent minds?

Let me make this clear, Black Americans have not accomplished anything since the days of slavery. We cannot say that we have accomplished anything when we are not a sovereign people or have complete independence from White America or especially not having our own country. Am I right?

Tell me what you think.

Steve, they know what must be done and just have to the courage of Our Leader President Baraka Hussein Obama, and Harry-
We are the people we have been waiting for, Change means putting the past experience aside and stepping forward anew and now. Our Leader President Baraka Hussein Obama has 1209 days to 2013 left to help us secure Change We can believe in-
The Quraan Thomas Jefferson studied and the Quraan that every President since nixon has been personally given, and the Quraan that Our Leader President Baraka Hussein Obama memorized as a child----
AlQur'aan-Chapter of Rome-"travel in the Earth and see the result of man's inclination to evil, The Creator made man so that man would clearly see right from wrong........
So, the created set your direction to the greatness that The Creator made you----your persecution, slavery and hinderance from life, knowledge and greatness is worse than no life.............the world was created for the children of Adam to control"

that Harry is all that I know

Irma, for whatever reason you do not hear or understand what I am saying.
Adam and Eve are the father and mother.....................
The Creator made Adam from the dust, mud, clay, water and gel of earth.
Using Black/White, to describe the children of Adam and Eve, is a racialist, racist and divisively evil.
Skin color cannot think or reason!
George Bush, Me, You, AlQaddafi, Ahmadinejad, Rush, Beck, Siebra, Earl, Harry, JuaJingTao, Mr. Mann, MIISrael, Angela Merkel, The Queen of England, Bishop Tutu, the Pope, Mozell, and our Leader President Baraka Hussein Obama are human sons and daughters of Adam and Eve, brothers, cousins---related---we become unrelated if we eat the Apple that Evil gave to Eve.

If you want to define yourself as a Black Woman,------great------freedom of speech
I think anyone that defines themselves by a color is a racialist, racist, follower of European divisiveness of the descendants of Adam and Eve's family of humanity.
I dont care if a negro wears his pants to his knees, in or out of jail, but I also have a constitutional right to say that person perpetuates hiv/aids-hippityhoppyness.
I left this site and you begged me to continue my imput--

only because a lady I knew named Mrs. Robinson; who made the best buttermilk pie of all time--------out of respect for her did I tell you I would continue to note here and there, but my god did you want me to come back so you could beat on me?----
I love you, but my wife is after me for another child and I'm an old man and I am physically not able to take a beating.

Hello Robert,

You said this, “I think anyone that defines themselves by a color is a racialist,”

I think that you are misunderstanding what a person means, especially myself when I use the term, Black Americans who are descendents of slaves.

What I am doing is defining a particular race, genetically speaking more so than a color. Do you agree with me? Now, if you do agree with me how it is that you could say I am a racist.

What say you?

Robert, I see the truth in what you are saying. We should not define each other as black or white. To not describe each other by our physical appearance, man, woman, tall, short, thin, fat, black, white, etc. is harder.

Irma, I've been looking for a video of the Bush song but can't find it. Perhaps it will come to light now that the story is out. I did blog something else I found while searching for this, more disrespect to the President from a member of congress.

Thanks Steve,

Irma, Siebra can say she is Black; america is a free country; but I believe she wants the same thing as nazis skinheads and our dead presidents notably Thomas Jefferson, tribal/clan purity.---racialism
but I say she is a Wannabee White Woman.
Black is defined for europeans by what webster and merriman dictionary defines, Siebra, Irma, 3 million negros in prision, Beck and Rush, whoever, use English to define themselves and to THINK, they and slaveAmericans use English------to describe The Creator of the Heavens and the Earth, their own version of God-Creator.
PreSlavery in America--most of our ancestors were Muslims-They defined themselves in the language of The Creator-not webster---they ruled the world, they maintained civilization and the will of the Creator; until a barbarian marched out of the Dark Ages and the Black Death of Europe.
I have not and will not define myself after these europeans, I am a MAN.

Irma,Our Blog here deals with thoughts on INDOCTRINATED,
Thank You Ramblin Rose, Education can be difficult.
I know, based on my study and experience our colored generation of Americans were not given the same educational resources for effective communication in American Society, So I agree with your analysis.

Quote From Harry:

Now, I never said that I was God. Get yourself together young woman and say things that would make me be proud of you. Say sensible things.

Also, speak for yourself and let Irma speak for herself, okay.

Harry, you say you never said you were God but the statement "I AM THE WAY, AND THERE IS NO OTHER WAY" proves otherwise. And for you to say that someone else is speaking for me and Irma, I take it as an excellent comment because it shows that the knowledge that we possess is far greater than what you can even fathom.The reason you must know of the TRUTH today is because the liar (Devil/Whiteman) must be removed. It is up to all of us to listen, and as you listen, read and understand.

Robert, You are a Muslim like me and have been taught the same teachings as NOI. Therefore you have no excuse. You stated on Earl's blog that you would be leaving BIA soon and give me and Irma our space but you are still here. So why are you still here trying to install fear and ignorance in us? I'll tell you why: you want it to be that you are telling the truth about me and Irma. You want it to be that every lie you spew about us is the reality of it. Why do you want this so bad Robert? Because YOU are the one that is extremely fearful, hoping and praying that you will never have to see Allah, and all of your opposition gives you some glimmer of hope that you will never have to be judged. This gives you the so-called freedom to say and do as you please without ever having to pay for it. You and Harry both are kissing the Devil's ass, calling yourselves "revolutionaries" while acting like nothing more than glorified Christians who also wish they never have to come face to face with God. And fear is the worst enemy of man. Where you find a man that doesn't fear, that is the winner.

You and Harry both give the Devil/Whiteman too much power and for what? What has he done to improve your life or the lives of your families? What help has he bestowed upon you that far exceeds the assistance that Allah/God can provide?

Harry, I have asked you the following questions countless times. You often say you are "Black America's first prophet", but where is proof of your works Harry? Where is your university, supermarket, restaurant/bakery, medical center, and house of worship? I have asked you these questions many times with NO REPLY. Therefore I take it that you don't have any of these things I mentioned. Then you have the audacity to denounce Farrakhan's works but the truth is that the NOI has all these things that I just mentioned. Go to the NOI headquarters in Chicago, Illinois and check it out for yourself. Each day you and Robert come to BIA supporting the Devil.

And to those who doubt the warnings of Farrakhan such as California breaking off from this country, the fall of the economy, Hurricane Katrina, etc. I suggest you check out the discovery/science channel. Tell me the reporters are not terrified of what the Bible warned us about, right there in Revelations, for years before they even knew the problems existed. The sad part is that it's too late for some of them to do anything about it. So where is your solution Robert and Harry? It sure isn't insults and preying on the conscious of your own kind. And it DAMN sure ain't hybrid cars.)

Think over this and reconsider if your insults and disrespect are worth the genocide that will most certainly visit our people for the lack of accepting the TRUTH!!!

siebra, I AM NOT ANYTHING LIKE YOU,
in fact, Elijah Mohamed first taught us that the christianINDOCTRINATED negro in america is The Dead of North America.
siebra, you have got to be a major reason why Elijah Muhammad called your INDOCTRINATED kind, The Dead of North America
Our Leader President Baraka Hussein Obama is a positive role model for America, because he says the Old have to Change, Change that we can believe in.

Harry and Robert,

Before Judgment can be applied, the reason for it must be experienced. There are two major reasons for Judgment. The first is to clear or to free and the other is to bind or restrict ones movement. However time does not permit for anymore ELEMENTARY TEACHING or acceptance of Judgment from the IGNORANT.

Irma and I have shared knowledge that no one would or could share with you and since we are at war with the Devil/Whiteman, the time has been given for one to make his choice to be with RIGHT or WRONG. Knowledge has been brought to you by me; not sent; brought - and your responses to it are pure ignorant. You are showing your approval of the Devil and your hate for your own kind. If I only presented that which is common, that would prove to be no knowledge that would cause you to advance.

We do know the character of the Devil/Whiteman is Lies and Deception and the Nature of God is Salvation and Freedom and we have given Deception thousands of years to rule. So much so that you make fun of the knowledge that is freely shared - for an example, the Ant and Its Purpose. Satan never told them what it is for, nor did he give them knowledge of the Bee or the Mole People or the Black Ant, nor has Satan shared with them the activity of the Hollow Earth and moreover, nor has he shared with them the understanding of Malcolm, Farrakhan, Me and even themselves. Instead, you all are completely satisfied with being ignorant of the obvious.

Because of you all’s ignorance, you are completely oblivious to the Time; giving Satan the appearance of winning over the Blackman/woman. The time for that appearance is OVER. It would make a big difference if a positive inquiry was put in place concerning the knowledge that I share so that you could get the full understanding and reap the power from it. To be able to speak or communicate with the lower forms of life would not allow you to reach the full gratification of the power of God. If the higher form of Creation (Man) is unwilling to be elevated; speaking to the birds, bees and ants; speaking to the wind etc. is a form of robbing one of his full potential.

So since you both want to continue to indulge more in the ways of insults and disrespect to your own kind, individuals such as yourselves will continue to be treated as a child – why because you will not change regardless to clear evidence and your behavior is causing others to think and express themselves in a dangerous manner because of your willful ignorance. And for those of you who want to carry on the same practice, you will find yourself in the same kind of negative situation.

Your employer Mr. Satan and his helpers and a few others that worked so diligently to make you successful in bringing down the females on this site – in due time it will backfire; with all of that help. So to make it crystal clear, no one who is engaged in that practice against us and the time of what must be done, will be successful.

It is Judgment Time and you are being Judged on your acceptance or refusal of the knowledge and opportunity that has been offered to you. There are many, many ways to exercise this Judgment. However to the rebellious, your sentence may be unbearable and no one will be able to help you – only in hastening your Judgment. The time for you all thinking that the females have to accept your continuous flow of abuse is over and THIS IS NOT A THREAT. This is a matter of fact of what Irma and I am putting into motion and magnifying. You all have been so careless in your Judgment concerning Me and Irma and Doc, so you will continue to be treated like a child. In the Bible the Book of Hosea states that our people are destroyed for the lack of knowledge after knowledge had been sent to them; in this case brought to them.

So my good friends Mozell, Irma, Misreal, Clark, Jeremy, Doc, Earl, Jen, and Steve, this is not for you. This is for the ones who are being a magnet to those who are easily lead in the wrong direction. The spell must be broken. To the ones that this letter is addressed to that say someone else is speaking for me, I take it as an EXCELLENT comment because it shows that the knowledge that I share is far greater than what you so-called adults can even fathom. Also, don’t get yourself all emotional because I AM living life as it was designed to be lived and fulfilling God's purpose to the best of my ability.

The REAL question is; are you?

Robert, you are showing your ignorance again. And that makes you your worst enemy. Your foul, disrepectful friend Harry, got all of this crap started, and you jumped in to help him, and now you want to pretend that you two are not like minded? Just for anyone to speak about me and Irma the way that you all do is foul, especially if no one asked you.

As far as you asking me for my hand in marriage, you never did-- and I never was interested in a romance with you-- and this is why you feel you can talk so stupidly about me, because I never accepted you in a romantic way.

We have seen the treason of you and Harry with my own two eyes and ears. And because you couldn't have your way with me, you throw a temper tantrum like a kindergarten student. If you claim to be a Muslim like me you are going to have to be right because you have no excuse to be any way other than that. And from this Satanic/White God behavior that you are expressing, it is highly likely that I will never engage in such a relationship.

So in short, whether you leave BIA or not will not make a difference to me. At one time I didn't even know you. And, this ignorant attempt to gain attention, making it seem as though I am a hypocrite is just the opposite and YOU know it. You and Harry started a hate club, every other post on the board by you is "Siebra", "Siebra", "Siebra", as though I am not supposed to do anything about it?

Your imps all are very, very foolish to go on the lies you spew. So go on with your life until you reach the end of it, and then We all will see. And if you write anything back we are going to dig into you like never before, and you can accept it or leave it alone. I am not afraid of you, and I am not going anywhere

Siebra, blah, blah, blah----a lot of pc space for nothing.
you say some of your rants are for me; OK---I love you---but not for other BIA-????
Our Leader President Baraka Hussein Obama represents the United States of America.
Your hatreds, prejudices, Racialist attitudes, racism, ignorance, n*ggardliness to read and learn, represent preOur Leader President Baraka Hussein Obama---
His Leadership, if you study,listen and follow will FREE YOUR MIND and maybe your arse will follow--his dada was RealAfrican-momma RealKansas
LET US ALL ALLOW OURSELVES TO BE INDOCTRINATED BY----------
OUR LEADER PRESIDENT BARAKA HUSSEIN OBAMA

Right Clark, keep it short and sweet.

Mom I have taken heed to your words and deleted my last post. I didn't intend to turn this post into a gossip sheet between me and Robert. However since he and Harry want to continue dirtying my name on damn near everyone's post (including mine) I just felt I should take time to remind all of Robert's loyal fans of who he really is. I respect you Mom to the highest and I admit that I learn a lot from all of you here.

I learn a lot from Robert too. However, based on the different comments coming from him I just don't believe Robert wants the same thing me and you and everyone else on BIA wants (PEACE) because every other post on my blog, your blog and everyone else's blog is "Siebra This", "Siebra That". I have realized that Robert needs to be assisted just like Harry needs to be assisted. They both need to remove the plank from their own eyes before they remove it from ours. I have tried all means to make peace with them but their talk is malicious and evil, truly OPPOSITE of having peace.

I have absolutely no problems being reprimanded on things, however I do believe there is a POSITIVE way to reprimand, and there is a NEGATIVE way to reprimand. And I will certainly not tolerate Robert and Harry coming to this site on a daily base threatening me and talking down to me like street trash like they did our sister Katherine. Before she left the site last year she wrote a blog that broke my heart titled "I KNOW WHERE I AM NOT WANTED" and included Robert's name in the post. They have even attacked our brother Jeremy on my Minister Louis Farrakhan blogs.

Although we may not always agree with what a person says, all I ask of Robert and Harry to do to respect the females on this site as they would want to be respected. Why is that so difficult? And why don't they apologize for what they've done to US?

Because they have another spirit (Devil/Whiteman) that rules them and has a mind of it's own. So I have made the choice to pray and ask Allah to guide them out of their ingorance and outright defiance, I know it's just a day but hey they have to start sometime. They both should be tired of making World Wide Web fools of themselves. Peace.

Robert and Harry are at a point in their life where they need to make a clean record in order for them to be at peace. I strongly believe in karma and what goes around comes around. By throwing insults at the females on this site they're allowing themselves to get caught up in a way that isn’t right and also bringing their shortcomings on everyone else involved. The NOI preaches respect no matter what; they also preach do right to others regardless if they do right or not. I admit that I lost my patience with Robert on this blog. With that said, we all need to respect and practice what BIA and the NOI have preached to others (peace and liberation).

I don’t expect anyone to understand, unless you have been in a similar situation. We here on BIA are about submitting to the idea of a free knowledgeable Black nation, not just a religious one. Looking for the right in something when you have been emotionally scared is not easy to do. But it is not impossible if your heart is right.

As I said this is about submitting to the idea of a free knowledgeable Black nation and no matter what our differences are, we ask everyone to respect our views/opinions.

And I must say it appears Robert and Harry have a chemical imbalance namely from the different thoughts coming from them. They insist on continuing to looking like a fool and working on ending looking ignorant and foolish, and what they don't realize is that by the different insults/threats that they throw at us they are helping the exterminator (White Man/Devil) in eliminating the black race COMPLETELY. But the fact is no matter what the reason there is no need to throw insults/threats.

As we are the hopefully "positive" role models for/against our children being indoctrenated, as per usual, "I" believe that dialogue is the best way to do this. for example, I did not delete Harry's form of indocternations now did I?To do so would be insane, as this only makes him more in need to go to someone else's blog and take his insecurity out on them...

Actually, robert please take a look at this post and see who it is that started the off topic incentive.(smile)But, it is all good as one who expectes to be stalked for just this purpose.LOL

Allowing control over these kinds persons lives to me is on them, not me.....

robert like I have told Harry, I will now tell you. "Please make a better effort to remember the lie you told and who you told it to". example,

you have said what you consider to be a racist discription, right...Where did you aquire the definition /discription of COLORED and when you use this word are you talking about White people or Black people or the Native American????????!!!!?

And, if you are not being racist in qualifiny(Siebra) our people as Black then why is someone defining themselves , their own self being racist and not you....

or are we just right back in that cycle of only Harry and his followers have any rights.(smile)

Thank you my beautiful child Siebra. I am so glad and even more grateful that you were able to recognize you had lowered that bar of high standards you have set for you self as a Black community leader and role model for our younge ...

I am proud of you and I love and respect you even more.(smile) YES YOU DID.....

Siebra, stop this...this is not doing this site any good!!!!!!

I can see anger over a topic but this is getting into a trust issue. Or better a lack of being able to trusted issue...or a lover's spat...it is not someting that should be done on this site. So please delete this from my blog, please, as tomorrow is another day.We will all have cooler heads tomorrow...oneupmanship never ends it just get worst and worst....we must not turn this site into a personal battle ground!!!!!!!

My post is not to be turned into a gossip sheet so please delete it and please apologize to all who are offended or believe that they have been disrespected for being brought into this private matter between you and robert. And this is just too intimate and personal for me and it makes me very, very uncomfortable to be put right in the midle of this...by this kind of behavior.


No, I am not telling you what to do, but I am sure that you would not want someone to do this to you...I KNOW I DO NOT WANT TO BE IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS AS I HAVE JUST BEEN PUT THERE AS I AM RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS BLOG....(I am not happy about this either......)WE CAN ALL DO BETTER THAN THIS...AND WE MUST....

Thanks Steve, as Count Down is the only place that I have seen this tape. As it goes against the mind set of the right-wing to show president Bush's wife there when these children sang this song I doubt if it will be on Youtube.

It is just great to be able to see all sides of an issue. This is something that I expect will be only one more weapon for these politicians to use in 2010 to show the other side is far worst than their side.

This tape was showned during an interview with Eric Burns who is the president of Media Matters therefore I know as far as Media Matters.org is )going out to totally get rid of the Fox network altogether it will be seen and talked about the next time that network is called before Congress. It will be as it was the last time this network was brought before Congress, last year, be shown on C-Span.And, I will once again watch every minute of it.(smile)

Thanks again my brother in arms for trying....YES WE CAN...

robert, once again must I try to get through to you that IT IS YOUR LIFE...YOU ARE THE ONLY 'EXPERT' ON YOU...it is "I" believe and respect you, Siebra and any and all to be the only one to defind their own selves, not me...

In the real world I have no proof nor do I want any proof as to if you are a man, woman or child. My life has no reason to be better or worst if you are Black, White, or from the planet Mars, because it will not make sure that "I" have: food, air, drink or shelter as these are the only things required for my survival....

My purpose on this site is to communicate, not try to save the world or mankind as it will "I" believe take all of us, to be able to do this as we all have the (combined)ability to do this by dialogue.(smile)

Me, I define myself. my name is Irma for as long as "I" want to be known by this name the same way that my race identy has changed a few times. Me, I choose to change with the times(I no longer take calling me black as an offenseand even n*ggar in some cases as a from of greeting)......but then to my family and friends who I grew up with, I am called by my nick name, at all times. My children call me mom, my grandchildren call me grammy.By small children I am known not by Irma but Mrs. or miss Irma...a rose by another name still smalls just as sweet. I even answer to the name shorty or half pint, by people who don't even know me but are trying to get my attention... as a rule I am the shortest person there so common sense say they are talking to me. So far I have always been right(smile)

And, this has a lot to do with me being able to live such a stress free life...I live and let live...



BACK TO THE SUBJECT AT HAND...it seem as if Fox network and Youtube is having this matter come back and bite them in the A--.Things like this always does. Emotions are as fleeting as the next subjective mood swing. Objectivity is tangalble and can be seen, heard, ect. and it never changes.

This tape of our innocent children singing praise to former president G.W. Bush with his wife right there (after hurricane Katrina)while they sang it is now out. Hopefully this will now put this to rest until those angry parents begin their law suits against Youtube and the Fox networks. All others seem to have had the sense to not show their children's faces....INVASION OF A PERSON'S PRIVACY IS AGAINST THE LAW(smile)

People who have 'deep pockets' should know better as there can be a law suit waiting around every corner...just go ask the KKK.LOL

As this blog is about INDOCERENATION, "I' can not say that you or Harry has taken it off topic.LOL

robert, you are getting almost as bad as some others who are determined to change my words to suit their needs. The only way that anyone can be able to do this is to just not beable to allow this truth into any parts of their being, "You life is not mine to live or try to live, to judge, to define...IT IS YOUR LIFE AND NOT MINE...say for example, two things I do not like are pineapple and butter milk. I can not even stand to watch another person consume these...but, this is on me...(smile)Your private life is yours I neither want to hear about it or hear if you can produce or not, And, if you choose to blame me for the way you choose to live your life then go right ahead. I eas on the site when I met you and I will be on the site(my choice) for as long as I like. So please I do not atke responsiblity fro your staying or going as I repeat I have no need to live your life for you...

I like dialoguing with you but please don't try to turn it into the reason for your living / being, for you past experiences or your present or your future behaviors, please, this I am sure appeals to harry, but I have no respect for any forms of dependancy as it is too much like an addiction to me/ controled by someone else, or thing(smile)

You are saying what about you are on tis site because I begged you to stay???Is this the same as saying I now control your actions and not you?!? Again I have no respect for any form of anyone not taking colplete control of their own life...but then there is this need to leave out what I say if it does not please you as it does with harry?!? Let it go as I have no parts of this kinds of mind controls...

OH, robert are you saying Siebra is not Black?!? When you refer to slave mentality you are saying she has this condition because she is White, or because she is Black...make up your mind....and as I keep saying to Harry, please try to remember the lie told and to whom it was told...it was you that brought up the subkect of slave mentality on the post, not me...all I ever ask of anyone is to PROVE IT...now if you can not even find out what skin color denotes race, as race, skin color(I gather for you is directly tied to slave mentality?!?)

All I ask is that you qualify who TO YOU CONSTITUTE this label of slave mentailty and how are you not ASSUMING by way of skin color?!? I do not see how you and harry can even try to be in step with each other as harry comes out and says this is about race, and race is as a rule determined by skin color...

I still say if our president had the skin color of his mother, you and I would not even be having this conversation in the first place...or do half black and half whites not have slave mentality??????(smile)or is it more to what Harry believes all who agree with him don't have slave mentality??????LOL

Harry, Harry, Harry, is all that I can say to/about you. And, just go on saying, "GOD BELSS THE CHILD THAT HAS THEIR OWN".

And, have you noticed hary, I did not even bother to DELETE YOUR CALL FOR SOMEONE TO LISTEN TO YOU AND COME ("help" you reach your life's goal)FOLLOW YOU TO YOUR PROMISE LAND.(SMILE)

Insanity: TO CONTINUE TO DO THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN WHILE EXPECTING ANOTHER/ DIFFERENT RESULT.LOL

robert, your problem is that you can not take any of my civil, legal or moral rights to be able to do my own tinking, to live my own life, to know my worth as an individual. example, please why do you continue to be determined to convince your self that you can in any way live my life for me...or are you saying that this is not a country that says that we ALL in this country heve the rights of FREEDOM OF RELIGIION????????

and, if you believe this is a freedom in this country, please go and read & reread your comment just above this on.(smile)And, if you choose to live a life of you not understanding / rejecting them which are your own conclusions than it still is not my problem nor my concern...

robert, you can not be talking about the same Barack Hussein Obama whose own blood kin could not accept him because he has the skin color of his father's and not his mother's.(smile)

And, could this be because of the slave mentality of White people?!? Or is it that they have a gene that can not dispite laws and even the idea that , God created US in HIS OWN IMAGE is saying that even God is wrong?!?Me, I do not have this problem as I give respect where respect is do an "I" will never accept a right be it civil, moral or legal that "I" will not demand and fight to the death for eveyone else to have....

and, while I am at tis, who is the 'we', 'a people' you are refering to , robert...I am willing to bet that you are going use as a qualifier for the 'we'/ 'a people' as no one classifed as White or Blacks that are-can pass for White?LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL(smile)

robert what in your own mind constitutes: free choice, free speech, each person is different no matter the personal lable of worth that you chooseto grace them with by the use of your free:speech, choice to define them, discribe them, demean them, praise them, like them, dislike them...or do I have the right to make up your robert powell's mind for you...it is up to you.... right after you reread the comment just before this on(smile)

Brother robert, if you and Seibra can not dialogue on this site then how can we even think that any one in political office can reach and agreement except to say each other's party is wrong?

I will repeat...life is a process of learning how to step into the shoes of others to try and look at their point of view.example, you just taught me in you rcomment about the governor of N.Y. that I did not know.This is because it seem that today's news offered to the public, be it print or radio or TV is limited to the opinions, leanings of the reporters to their bias, reality or just even more their political leanings.Tis is actually (as I see it) a major threat to our nationa security as well as to our educational systems...

I do not ask that you and sister Siebra kiss and make up...just to respect each others rights to exist on this site...this is because this site is open to all to agree/disagree and in the mean timeLEARN form each other.(smile)

Here is one of the worst comments sites I have found on Youtube under this vedio's name...Children kids sing singing Barack Hussein Obama song at N.J elementary school Indoctrination)Beck...which I gather is a link(? Earl?)

For anyone who has a link please feel free to post on here your self...THANKS

Brother Earl, I have a Youtube account,so I just go to it. I am not the one to ask for help when it comes to finding something on a computer. All I can say is go to the YOUtube site..then hit the first section at the top when you get there...then in the search secton put in something like indoctrination of children, or Obama song or just put in Glenn Beck, etc...

And, by the way as I don't have high speed, if any one goes to Youtube, please let me know if the faces of these children has bee blanketed out...when they show them singing on the TV they are covered...this is major...

I first saw this on Hannity last night and sat there not know if I should laugh and thank them for another reason for Media Matters. com to come after them or report ath attorney on his program to teh ethnic baord in her state. but, I calmed down. they will not get away with this...

Thank you sister for those insightful and hopeful and up lifting, WE SHALL OVER COME, words.