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Let me explain what a genuine prophet of God does.

Let me explain what a genuine prophet of God does.

Harry Watley · Saturday, January 2nd 2010 at 11:07AM · 2509 views
Let me explain what a genuine prophet of God does.

Firstly, when God intervenes in a people’s affair as God intervened in the affairs of the Hebrew people in Egypt is because the people have not the wherewithal to help themselves. They are ignorant, they are being taken advantage of and they are simple in a constant twirling cycle as water behaves when you unplug your kitchen sink to let the dirty water down the drain.

Consequentially, the slogan, the apple of God’s eyes or God’s people is most appropriate in describing that specific people when God intervenes in their affairs as it was used with the Hebrew people. Today, Black Americans who are descendents of slaves are the apple of God’s eyes or God’s people if you will.

It is incumbent upon God to reach out to Black Americans, approximately 41 million whose souls and spirits belongs to and has always served White American people. It is unconscionable of God not to intervene in Black America’s dire situation, as it would have been that God did not intervene in the Hebrew people’s dire situation in Egypt. All human souls and spirits belong only to God and not to people. The souls and spirits of Black Americans do not belong to White Americans, but only to God. In the famous words of Moses when he said to Pharaoh, “Let My People Go” Moses meant that the souls and spirits of the Hebrew people belong only to God. White America must let Black Americans go and it is going to happen. Everywhere I go I hear Black Americans crying out to God to be free. For instance, in simple innocent conversations I would hear one Black say to one another about something unfortunate that if you were White the situation would have been handled differently. The hymns that are sung in the churches are crying out to God to be free. However, my point is that only one amongst us has our permanent solution and that one only is God backing as Moses was the only one that had the Hebrew people’s permanent solution (The Exodus) and only Moses was God backing. Do you all understand the comparison and contrast that I use of Moses, which you all are familiar with the story to illuminate my point?

Therefore, when a prophet comes to right the wrongs of his people dire situation he is always met with an abundance of gross ignorance and misguidance. He understands and expects to be met with hostility from his people. For instance, every one of his people starting with the clergies (Christians and Muslims), educators, civic activists, elected officials, organizations right down to the common family and individuals have a different approach or resolutions to our problems, am I right. Therefore, all of them are jockeying for position that their resolution he accepted.

A prudent person has no other choice but to see this chaotic situation as thousands of different beams of light going in different directions, am I right. So, what a prophet does and it takes years to do it, is to bring all those different beams of lights into one laser of light since we all know there is only but one permanent resolution to a divine problem am I right.

For instance, Mr. Farrakhan has his own beam of light. Bishop TD Jakes has his own team of light. Congressman Mr. John Conyers has his own beam of light. The Attorney General, Mr. Eric Holden as his own beam of light. Those people who promote reparation have their own beam of light. Sincere Whites has their own beam of light. Do you get the picture?

However, only one person has the permanent solution, as Moses was the only one person that had the permanent solution. God have inspired me to know that Black America’s only permanent solution is to desire sovereignty or complete independence on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders. Am I making any sense with you all?

Tell me what you think.

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robert powell Saturday, January 2nd 2010 at 12:13PM

No sense whatsoever!
In the case of Moses, he had been like a son to Pharoah, raised by Pharoah, yet the family of Pharoah would not let Moses rule.

You have not been treated like a son of America and you want to go.

Yet at the same time the people you want to go with, africanAmericans, have a son of SecularDemocray and one who looks like them, in the person of,
President Baraka Hussein Obama-The Greatest President SecularDemocracy has ever chosen.

Do you consider President Baraka Hussein Obama-Pharoah?

Am I making any sense with you?

Give me a book, on what you think.

jamal Abraham Saturday, January 2nd 2010 at 2:48PM

Mr. Powell, Happy New Year

Having trouble finding your name anywhere in the Bible, Quran or Torah....should black Americans through these books away and accept your new profound inspiration

Harry Watley Saturday, January 2nd 2010 at 3:19PM

Hello Robert,

I told you before that you do not try to understand anything I say before you attempt to knock it down. The greatest thing that Allah gave to man was understanding. Salomon was smart enough to ask God for understanding. Now, let me explain your shortcomings.

You said this, “In the case of Moses, he had been like a son to Pharoah,”

The focus on Moses is not about Moses being Pharaoh’s son. The focus is that Moses is God’s anointed Prophet to the Hebrew people who are in bondage, is that clear to you.

Next, you said this, “You have not been treated like a son of America and you want to go.”

Likewise, the focus of attention is not whether I am a son of America, knucklehead. The focus of attention is that I am God’s anointed Prophet to Black Americans who are in bondage, is that clear to you.

Lastly, you asked this question, “Do you consider President Baraka Hussein Obama-Pharoah?”

President Barack Obama is more as Joseph then Pharaoh even though he holds the title of Pharaoh. Pharaoh is a title that rightfully belongs and will always belong to the Egyptian people despite the ethnicity of the individual sitting on the throne. Likewise, the presidency of the United States rightfully belongs and will always belong to White American people despite the ethnicity of the individual sitting in the Oval Office.

Mr. Obama swore to uphold the Constitution of the United States on his inauguration day, which is necessary to do for all incoming presidents of the United States. The origin of that document, The Constitution was prepared by White Americans hundreds of years ago. It is a document that solidifies white America’s ownership to the real estate of this country as well as the rulers. It is a document that pledges to protect and defend the real estate of America, White American people and lastly the inhabitants of White America. Is this clear to you?

The same will be for Black Americans when we become a sovereign people or have complete independence from White America on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders.

Black Americans are not immigrants as the other races are. Only two races of people in White America that are not immigrants. These two races are White America and Black Americans that used to be White America’s slaves, am I right.

White America will be hard-pressed; nevertheless, they will be happy that after 500 years of slavery and subjugation we are finally sovereign next door to them.

Tell me what you think.






Harry Watley Saturday, January 2nd 2010 at 3:46PM

Hello Jamal,

You asked this question, “…should black Americans through these books away…”

No, absolutely not. They should read them to understand from the testimony of the people that these books specifically belongs to how God helped these people in their dire situations.

For example, let us imagined that God did for Black Americans what God done for Moses and the Hebrew people. This would mean that we would have our own testimony of how God helped us out of bondage and subjugation in White America in book form, which will be our specific religious book instead of the Bible and the Quran, am I right.

Now, 400 years from today someone would have the privilege of reading Black America’s testimony of how God helped us. Would you suggest to that person to throw our religious book away? I do not think so since it is not an intelligent thing for you to do, am I right.

Next, you said this, “Having trouble finding your name anywhere in the Bible, Quran or Torah”

Of course, you would not find my name in these books since I am of a different race than the people that those books belong. For instance, the Quran belongs to the Arabian people. The Bible belongs to the European people. The Torah specifically belongs to the Jewish people. I am a Black American who is a descendent of slaves. Just think a little, Mr. Jamal.

Lastly, you said this, “….and accept your new profound inspiration….”

Of course, Black Americans should accept what I am saying. I am not wrong and no one can trump what I am saying. Look at it in this light. Having hindsight would you have mocked or discouraged the Hebrew people not to accept Moses newfound inspiration from God of the impending Exodus out of Egypt? Answer that question for yourself, Mr. Jamal.

Tell me what you think.








Harry Watley Saturday, January 2nd 2010 at 4:02PM

Hello Clark,

You ask this question, “Harry, how do you envision the constitution of this new nation coming about? Will it be a divine creation, or will we do it?”

Clark, I told you in our private e-mail that I am not a political leader. Therefore, I would not be drawing up our Constitution. I would give God’s blessing to the best minds among us to do that. I am neither a ruler nor a president. I am not made of that sort of material to be a ruler or a president. When God anointed me I am honored to be of those among whom God has favored of old times, Prophets.

I just wants to see us a sovereign people on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders facing head on the natural obstacles that nature will hurl at us to stay sovereign and advance the quality of our lives to the point that we could help other impoverished countries and people. More or less the same thing that Moses wanted for his people. Neither Moses nor I is hoping for this. As it was granted to Moses, God has also granted the same to me for Black Americans. Therefore, I am not hoping for it. I know that it is going to happen.

My divine task is to lead us into sovereignty and that will end my divine obligations. Do you understand?

Tell me what you think.


Helen Lofton Saturday, January 2nd 2010 at 5:02PM

In the story of Moses, God said he would deliver his people to a land flowing with milk and honey. People will not leave the known for the unknown without a means of survival.

jamal Abraham Saturday, January 2nd 2010 at 5:03PM

Mr. Watley, Peace

Will have to agree with Mr. Powell...you are are making much sense. There is no giving up 1 square ft of land of America for Black People. Americans fought the Indians, British, Spanish and Mexicans for this land to name a few and will not let no once so-called Negro have nothing buy a job. That is the most a Black Person will get in America.....Why a job, because the white establishment can fire him at will. Even if President Obama was not doing the bidding for White Americans, they would find a way to impeach him. No. .... You are way off course. Marcus Garvey and the Hon. Elijah Muhammad had it right....,.Africa is our home

Harry Watley Saturday, January 2nd 2010 at 11:54PM

Hello Helen,

You said this, “People will not leave the known for the unknown without a means of survival.”

Helen, Black Americans are their own means of survival. The Hebrew people while they were in the desert for 40 years learned the hard way that they were their own means of survival as all people are. Did not White American people cross the Atlantic Ocean and many of them died surviving the first winter on this continent. Who the hell did they cried to? Whom did they whine and complain to? You had better stop the nonsense that you are spewing out!

The Hebrew people through the ordeal were as ignorant as you are. They were constantly murmuring, whining and complaining how difficult things are for them. For instance, while they were in the desert having a hard time surviving they said that Moses brought them out of Egypt into the desert to die, that they were better off in Egypt.

Helen, to become a sovereign people on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders is not a picnic or some sort of a Mardi Gras party. Sovereignty is a tremendous responsibility to hold down, but it has greater rewards.

For instance, many sovereign countries today cannot hold down the tremendous responsibility of sovereignty and making the quality of their lives better. The sovereign country of Somalia is an example. Therefore, sovereignty is a tremendous responsibility, yet we are not going to fail.

What say you?


Harry Watley Sunday, January 3rd 2010 at 12:10AM

Hello Jamal,

You said this, “There is no giving up 1 square ft of land of America for Black People.”

Jamal, you sound just as Ms. Helen. Pharaoh said that there was no way the Hebrew people would leave Egypt, Moses or no Moses. The Philistine people said there was no way David would slay their giant Goliath. Elijah Muhammad and people before him said there would be no way an object included man would land on the moon. I could go on and on, but I think you get the picture.

I am the way, and besides me, there is no other way that Black Americans could ever become a real people in this world.

So, stop your nonsense, knock down with intelligence, and not with damn fear the things I say.

I told you previously to go to the back and take refuge with the women and children. I need brains and not fear to work with me, get the picture Jamal.

Your fears leave us no alternative but to stay a subjugated people, therefore what you fear or believe to be the impossible must become a possible for us. In other words, the bridge you believe that you cannot cross, well you must cross it.

What say you?

jamal Abraham Sunday, January 3rd 2010 at 1:01AM

Mr. Watley, How are You

Haven read your comment, don't think you get what I am saying. Almighty God has my plan where we leave the gays, lesbians, robbers, interracial, continued sinners and other unrighteous right here in America. You, Mr. Watley can have them because Almighty God Allah don't want them. And I don't want to live around them. Therefore, we transition out of America in stages. That way, we have a built in way of separation like the wheat from the tare, sheep from the goat. And the others that want to do right, live right and engage in heaven while they live to the modernized part of Africa.....land of their own

robert powell Sunday, January 3rd 2010 at 9:48AM

Jamal,
I do not have any "new" inspiration.
I am a simple old Muslim Male; with Belief in ALQur'aan Kareem and the Sunnah of Mohamed(as).

I am AhlalSunnah and follow Mohamed(as); Mohamed followed that which came before him and the prophets before him are the same, as a single line from Adaam to us.

You are looking for my name in the Great Words that Mankind has received from Allaah?

Mohamed(as) beleives that the Words, whether from Taurat, Ingeel, or others, Only Allaah knows, must be used by Mankind to Believe.

I give no validity to the term 'black' American. black is a Divisive term used by paganEuropean Racialist to divide the Family of Adaam--
It is Not a term used by Muslims to describe the Family of Adaam.

Thankyou for being concerned; names are like words, they describe.
as I write here in English, i use English transliteration for all in the International Virtural Interent.

now,
harry back to Blog----
yes the focus has to be on Musa, raised as son of pharoahFir'aun. He was a Great prophet of MonotheisticThought of and he came to Change, the Taghut Fir'aun, who thought he was Creator----who thought he was life or death----Fir'aun was Drowned because he did not believe------and some children of BaniIsraeel did survive and wandered in the desert into disfavor with Allaah.....
This is why Musa's story is so spectacular---Fir'aun the Greatest of That Time in Disbelief was given an opportunity to CHange and he said no.- and he received the reward of DisBelief....

And, I agree with Jamal, take them nagras with you, to your sovereignity.

As we are SecularDemocrats I say we follow the commands of Our Commander in Chief Baraka Hussein Obama.





Harry Watley Sunday, January 3rd 2010 at 2:51PM

Hello Jamal,

You said this, “Almighty God has my plan where we leave the gays, lesbians, robbers, interracial, continued sinners and other unrighteous right here in America.”

Firstly, let me make a few things intelligently clear to you. You are an engineer, wannabe Muslim as well as an author by your own admission. You are not a prophet. There is only but one prophet for one specific people at a time. I have repeatedly said that I am Black America’s first genuine prophet to lead Black Americans into sovereignty on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders. God constantly inspires me. I said that to say God has not you plan since I am God’s Chosen One and I need not fight you about it. All who reads the things I say will take in the differences of our intelligence.

You went on to say from your warped mind that the undesirables of our people would be left in White America. Let me tell you something knucklehead. These undesirables are our people and our responsibility and not human trash. They are not the responsibility of White America. If the situation were reversed you would not want White America to leave their undesirables with you, am I right.

Without doubt, when we leave out of White America, but not off the continent, I want all of our prisoners, mentally ill, lesbians, homos*xuals and interracial to come with us and we will appropriately take care of our own. Is this not the right thing to do?

Tell me what you think.

Harry Watley Sunday, January 3rd 2010 at 3:37PM

Hello Robert,

Let me begin by saying that the only reason you are a wannabe Muslim is that you are ignorant and do not know any better. True Muslims are Arabian people since Prophet Mohammed was an Arab man. Allah’s decree is that prophets are risen up only from among their own kinds. Therefore, what I am telling you are in keeping with Allah’s decree, am I right.

Now, since you are not an Arab man, but instead you are a Black American man who is a descendent of slaves Prophet Mohammed very well could not be your Prophet. Your Prophet must be a Black American just as you are, am I right.

I am your genuine Prophet from God and you know it because of all the intelligence, wisdom and rationale that I have always use to back up myself. You have never neither showed Miller said that I was wrong, am I right. Prophet Mohammed and I are brothers in Prophethood since we believe in the same God or Creator. Prophet Mohammed believed that God begets not and neither could God begotten and there is nothing like unto God and I believe exactly the same.

Secondly, you are grossly wrong that Pharaoh’s army was drowned because Pharaoh was a disbeliever. You are Islamic and biblically religiously ignorant to believe something that stupid. Pharaoh’s army was drowned because Pharaoh would not let the Hebrew people go as God commanded. It had nothing to do with any disbelief of Pharaoh. The ordeal had more to do with the hardening of Pharaoh’s heart than any religious disbelief. Moses was an anointed Prophet of God and his divine task was to command and allow Pharaoh an opportunity to let the Hebrew people go from bondage and slavery in Egypt, but Pharaoh did not.

The authentic story of Moses is better told by the Hebrew people themselves as recorded in the Bible and the Torah. Only a religious idiot would believe what the Quran say about Moses rather than what Moses say about himself as recorded in the Bible and the Torah, am I right.

However, for Black Americans neither the Quran nor the Bible is our religious books to guide us. The living body of a genuine prophet of God would guide Black Americans and there after our own religious book will follow. Am I making any sense with you, Robert?

Tell me what you think.

Dee Gray Thursday, January 7th 2010 at 7:42PM

Okay, Harry...you're a prophet. (And I'm the Easter Bunny).

Harry Watley Friday, January 8th 2010 at 12:04AM

Hello Dee,

Dee all the prophets were mocked and criticized by their own people. Are you making a difference by mocking and criticizing me? On the other hand, are you following along the same path as those before you have done to their prophet for thousands of years?

I am Black America’s first genuine prophet, even though you do not believe it. However, in time to come you will.

Tell me what you think.

S
Sylvainy R Tuesday, January 19th 2010 at 12:28PM

Hi There
Helen Lofton I’ll start with you, In the bible GOD never spoke or utter 1 word for it is always (And GOD SAID UNTO) e:g If you tell a friend a story and that friend tell the same story but USE YOU as a reference (You get the picture?)

Jamal Abraham

It is my opinion you need to free yourself from MENTAL SLAVERY, listen to what you’re saying!!!

Harry Watley

There’s no archeological or Historical evidence to indicate that anyone JEWS or Otherwise was ever in the DESERT for 40 yrs


Jamal Abraham

Hello Mr Jamal

I must ask this question with your reference to Almighty God Allah, don't want them???? By what authority and whose authority do you SPEAK, regardless weather one is gays, lesbians, robbers, interracial, continued sinners and other unrighteous why would a God or Allah for that matter created all things (SO THEY SAY) to turn around and then reject it THEN, What makes YOU better than anyone because of their preference / choice being interracial, robbers ect ect, , Mr Jamal with all due respect to your religious belief, I think you need to step away from the ROCK to which you find yourself, Now please DO NOT TAKE THIS COMENT OUT OF CONTEXT

robert powell

When you say you

(give no validity to the term 'black' American. black is a Divisive term used by pagan European Racialist to divide the Family of Adaam--
It is Not a term used by Muslims to describe the Family of Adaam)

Please note the European never use that term to describe (BLACK PEOPLE) and yes I said Black People , I am a proud Black Man, However it was the Portuguese who first use that word BLACK or NEGRO in reference to the British, NOT TO BLACK FOLKS,
According to History the Portuguese is to have said the British is too DUMB to even make slave of us meaning make slaves out the Portuguese


Mr Harry Watley

Thank you, You are dead on

Dee Gray
I understand, If I was always told that SALT was SUGAR, and keep putting SALT in my coffee, The first time I would taste SUGAR, well I think you get the picture no disrespect to you or anyone on this blog

However I’ve learned something there are BROTHERS and SISTERS out there and weather we agree or disagree we as a people has finally began looking reading studding our HISTORY from the motherland

Harry Watley Tuesday, January 19th 2010 at 2:10PM

Hello Mr. Soso,

You said this, “There’s no archeological or Historical evidence to indicate that anyone JEWS or Otherwise was ever in the DESERT for 40 yrs”

Are you telling me that the story of Moses is not true?

Tell me what you think.



S
Sylvainy R Tuesday, January 19th 2010 at 3:03PM

Mr Harry Watley

YES, I am telling that that the story of MOSES is not TURE, and there’s evidence to back this up, there’ documented that show that MOSES was none other than (Pharaohs Ahmose I, Founder of the 18th Dynasty and the New Kingdom)
There is archeological and Historical document of this

Also please keep in mind that there’s no JEW anywhere in history until (Abraham) He was the first of the JEWS, Prior to (Abraham) all of the great Pyramids had already been built YOU getting the picture

Harry Watley Tuesday, January 19th 2010 at 7:13PM

Hello Mr. Sosa,

I believe I could prove to you that the story of Moses is true, but later.

First, let me explain this to you, even if the story of Moses is not true it does not matter from my perspective and this is why. Let us assume for the sake of argument that the story of Moses is not true, okay. My point is that the plight of Black Americans mirrors the story of Moses. Black Americans are living the story of Moses. Therefore, there are lessons to be learned from the story even if the story is not true since Black Americans are actually living the story as I said.

One of the things to be learned is that God raised up a prophet that led the children of Israel out of bondage in Egypt since the children of Israel had not the wherewithal and neither does Black Americans have the wherewithal to bring sovereignty or complete independence from White America on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity.

I am Black America’s first genuine prophet that will lead Black Americans into sovereignty on a portion of this American continent. Do you understand me?

Tell me what you think.

S
Sylvainy R Tuesday, January 19th 2010 at 8:27PM

Mr Harry Watley
In this instance I do believe we are speaking apples and oranges, With all due respect to you the topic before us is the MOSES story, and as you`ve mentioned, (you could prove to you that the story of Moses is true) (but later) Now in the essence of the discussion I don’t feel it’s just to mix the two
Now according to you (God raised up a prophet that led the children of Israel out of bondage in Egypt) Please note unless Egypt took a 747 flight MOSES was an AREICAN, Now if you wish to discuss
(Black Americans) then we`ll have to start with the slave trade but we cannot mix the two I do appreciate your blackness e:g (Black Americans) for I too, I`m a black man and a dependence of slave so lets keep the two topic separate Do you understand me?

Harry Watley Tuesday, January 19th 2010 at 10:57PM

Hello Mr. Soso,

Okay, what it is that you want me to do; I will comply? What do you want to discuss and where do you want to start?

Do you want to discuss that the story of Moses is true?

Tell me what you are thinking.

S
Sylvainy R Wednesday, January 20th 2010 at 9:07AM

Lets start with the story of Moses, Truth or Not? And as you've mentioned you
could prove that the story of Moses is true, but later. I'll yield to you, Thus begin you

Harry Watley Wednesday, January 20th 2010 at 9:32AM

Hello Mr. Sosa,

Well, the Bible being a history book as well as the testimony of the Jewish people to the world of how God has helped them in their times of trouble with other races as well as personally help them shows that Moses instituted the ritual of the Passover that the Jewish people in the state of Israel today still celebrates in the same manner as when Moses instituted over 4000 years ago. This means that the ritual of the Passover has been passed down from generation to generation up to today. Since this be the case the story of Moses would be true, am I right.

I would consider a linkage between the incidents of the Passover 4000 years ago to the Passover that the Jewish people still celebrates today that the story of Moses is true.

Consequentially, we do not need archaeological findings since we could reason our way through the denials and the skeptics, am I right

Tell me what you think.

S
Sylvainy R Wednesday, January 20th 2010 at 12:26PM

Hello Mr: Harry Watley

First I must say thank you for having this discussion and hope you as well as I keep an open mind and or agree to disagree without being disagreeable, Having said that I must agree with you that the bible is a history book as well as the testimony of the Jewish people, Now if your source / reference for your statement / belief, is the bible, One must take into account that the said bible was written by the said people being the JEWS as the word of GOD, Now there’s a saying that most people goes by the bible and not in the bible

Second don’t you find it odd according to the bible, (they said that GOD the Jews are the chosen ones) if you can!? Just for one second put race, culture, people aside and give that some serious thought, for if that’s the case all of humanity is doom except for the JEWS according to GOD

Third, I’ll have to disagree with you that we don’t need archaeological evidence, The operative word here is I must say (evidence) Skeptics are on the fence neither here nor there they’ll even question the facts before them

Forth the unearthing of the Rosetta Stone give way for decrypting the Pyramid Text, The Coffin Text, which disputed the bible as a hole and give the African / Egyptian there true heritage these document again has been suppress


Fifth Please keep in mind according to historical evidence (Abraham) was the first, of the JEWS and possible a Hyksos, now how could the Jews be in bondage / slaves during the building of the pyramid when there was no Jew nowhere in history during that period? Now for anyone reading this post PLEASE forget about the (Cecil B Demille's classic The Ten Commandments) movie as if its FACT because it is NOT

Six According to Exodus 7:7 "Moses was eighty years old and Aaron eighty-three years old when they spoke to Pharaoh." Adding 80 years to the date of the Exodus in 1447 B.C equals 1527 B.C., the approximate year in which Moses was born. The ruler of Egypt at this time was Pharaoh Tutmose 1 (1540-1504 B.C.). The fascinating thing about his name is that if you remove THUT from his name you are left with MOSE, I ask you What's the chance of this being just a coincidence?


Seven
According to the bible, in Exodus 1:22-2:10, this Pharaoh gave the command that every son who was born of the Hebrews should be cast into the river. So fearing the child's life, the mother of Moses hid him in a basket in the reeds along the bank of the Nile. While Pharaoh's daughter was walking along the riverside she found him and raised him as her son


Although the bible never records her name, the Jewish historian Josephus writing in the first century does. He states:
"Pharaoh’s daughter, Thermuthis, was walking along the river bank. Seeing a basket floating by, she called to her swimmers to retrieve it for her. When her servants came back with the basket, she was overjoyed to see the beautiful little infant inside . . . Thermuthis gave him the name Moses, which in Egyptian means saved from the water" . . . Having no children of her own, she adopted him as her own son."
Josephus says the daughter of pharaoh was Thermuthis, which sounds an awful lot like the royal name Thutmose or Thutmosis.

Harry Watley Friday, January 29th 2010 at 5:42PM

Hello Mr. Soso,

I believe I understand all of your points from one to seven. However, all that we are concerned about now is the authenticity of the story of Moses, am I right. I said to you that Moses instituted the ritual of the Passover. The first Passover celebrated was by Moses and the Hebrew people in Egypt one day before Pharaoh ordered them out of Egypt. Now, the things that were done celebrating the first Passover are the same things, which are done today, am I right. Therefore, what the Jews do today celebrating Passover has been passed down to them from the first celebrated Passover, am I right.

Am I not making some sense with you?

Tell me what you think.

S
Sylvainy R Monday, February 1st 2010 at 11:56AM

Hello Mr Harry Watley

I imagine you’re looking at the authenticity of the story of Moses in the context of (1) The Bible (2) (The Passover) and (3) the said people who INVENTED the story, Now! if? you are? then you would be right
Please note according to historian, there’s no archeological evidence anywhere other than the Bible, and if we’re using the Bible as a reference of truth in this regards then the rest of humanity is doom, (For it is said in the Bible they are God chosen people)
Now weather we are christen, Muslim ,Buddhist, Black, White or any other religion or people for that matter, we are doomed for ( we, they or whoever) are not God Chosen People.

Now even Jewish scholars in present day are now questioning (1) The authenticity of the Bible and (2) the authenticity of the Moses story or even if? the Exodus ever took place, The ritual that you’ve mentioned are a set of rituals the (Jews) or the (Hyksos) coapted it as their own, These were and still are the rituals of the Egyptian mystery system, for (Thutmose, AKA Moses), was an Egyptian, there’s historical evidence that has emerge in the past 10yrs to that effect, However! the (DAMAGE) Has been done the ritual the Passover and the Moses story that you refereeing to are now planted in OUR collective psyche as truth, According to archeological finding as well as historian, (Thutmose, AKA Moses), was High Priest who did his studies at the Grand Lodge Of Luxor, along the banks of the Nile where the Mysteries were taught, Hence the Luxor's Secret Society or the Egyptian Mysteries System for he was an Egyptian

If you wish to do some research on this topic I’ll recommend a few books (1) The Coming Forth By Day And Night, This book is now Called the Egyptian Book Of The Dead),,, In this book you will see all of the rituals ascribe to Moses even those of King Solomon

(2), volney's ruins of empires, (3) The Complete Works of Josephus 7 Volume

But the Egyptian Book Of The Dead, Which is the Pyramid Text that was written in STONE over 2000 years ago long before there was a so-called Jewish people or even a so-called Jewish Passover better yet long before there was even a BIBLE you will see the plagiarism and where the first 5 books of the Bible which are ascribe to the Jewish so-called Moses came from when you read the history of (Thutmose) AKA Moses), you will see parallel of the Moses story who was and still is none other than Pharaoh Thutmose

Harry Watley Monday, February 1st 2010 at 6:33PM

Hello Mr. Soso,

You said this, “The ritual that you’ve mentioned are a set of rituals the (Jews) or the (Hyksos) coapted it as their own, These were and still are the rituals of the Egyptian mystery system”

It does not matter whether the Jews got the ritual from the Egyptians thousands of years ago and copied it for themselves. My point is that the Jews of today celebrates the Passover as it was celebrated for the first time by Moses 4000 years ago according to their own history which should be good enough for anyone.

A part of this ritual was laven bread or the flat bread that it is sometimes called. Consequentially, the present-day Jews got this ritual from Moses since they did not just start celebrating the Passover just recently.

You do not comprehend what I am saying. In other words, the Jews of today celebrate the Passover and they did not recently start celebrating the Passover. In fact, Jesus celebrated the Passover in Jerusalem the week he was crucified and that was 2000 years ago and 2000 years from Moses.

You keep talking about archaeological evidence and what historians say. I am telling you something greater archaeology and historians could say. I am connecting the present day to the past of 4000 years ago just by mentioning the Passover. However, what I am telling you is that the Jews of today celebrates the Passover ritual today just as it was first celebrated 4000 years ago by their ancestors, Moses and Joshua. Do you understand?

You are talking about where the Jews got the ritual from and that is not what I am talking about, okay. I am saying to you that the Jews of today in the state of Israel celebrates the ritual of the Passover just as the Bible describes this celebration 4000 years ago when Moses first instituted it from God command. In other words, I am showing you the celebration of the Passover in the present, a day that you are living in that you can witness of the Jewish people that were done by their ancestors 4000 years ago. So, what do you suppose these Jewish people are celebrating today when they celebrate the Passover?

Do you understand what I am saying?

Tell me what you think.

S
Sylvainy R Tuesday, February 2nd 2010 at 2:40PM

Hello Mr Harry Watley

I understand what I am saying, My intention here is not to upset you or make you or anyone angry but to have a sivile discourse which I know we can , I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend your right to say it, For If the only tool in your toolbox is a hammer, then all of your problem will begin to look like nails and those who cannot remember the past or refuse to look (his-story-History) are condemned to repeat it, If YOU believe that (1) God presented Moses with the 10 Commandments (2) The Bible is the testimony of the Jewish people to the world of how God has helped them (3) God help them in their times of trouble with the Egyptian people (4) God constantly inspires and guides me

Now please allow me to quote you the Pentateuch or the first 5 books of the bible that was attributed to Moses seeing he was the one chosen by God to bring his people (The Jews) out of Egypt, Please keep in mind that according to YOU The (God that created me and all that I see, all that I do not see, all that I know, all that I do not know, and there is nothing comparable unto God is the God that I am talking about)


1, GE 22:1-12, DT 8:2 God tempts (tests) Abraham and Moses.
JG 2:22 God himself says that he does test (tempt).

2, EX 3:20-22, DT 20:13-17 God instructs the Israelites to despoil the Egyptians, to plunder their enemies.
EX 20:15, 17, LE 19:13 God prohibits stealing, defrauding, or robbing a neighbor

3, GE 17:15-16, 20:11-12, 22:17 Abraham and his half sister, Sarai, are married and receive God's blessings.
LE 20:17, DT 27:20-23 Incest is wrong

5, EX 12:13 The Israelites have to mark their houses with blood in order for God to see which houses they occupy and "passover" them.
PR 15:3, JE 16:17, 23:24-25, HE 4:13 God is everywhere. He sees everything. Nothing is hidden from God

6, EX 20:1-17 God gave the law directly to Moses (without using an intermediary).
GA 3:19 The law was ordained through angels by a mediator (an intermediary).

7, EX 34:6, DT 7:9-10, TS 1:2 God is faithful and truthful. He does not lie.
NU 14:30 God breaks his promise

8, PR 30:5 Every word of God proves true.
1KI 22:23, 2CH 18:22, JE 4:10, JE 20:7, EZ 14:9 God deceives some of the PROPHETS

9, NU 31:17-18 Moses, following the Lord's command, orders the Israelites to kill all the Midianite male children and "... every woman who has known man ...." (Note: How would it be determined which women had known men? One can only speculate.)
GE 17:14 A child is to be punished when his parents neglect to have him circumcised

10, GE 38:8-10 A man who refuses to impregnate his widowed sister-in-law is put to death

11, EX 21:20-21 A slave owner is to be punished if he strikes his slave and the slave dies shortly thereafter. If the slave lives a day or two and then dies, the slave owner is not to be punished. A slave is the same as money to his owner

Now these are just a few, The list goes on and it get even worst with all kinds atrocities committed at the command of God, so when I ask the question which God I think the question has merit,
For it’s my opinion that anyone in present day commits all or even one of those 11 examples as the testimony of the Jewish people to the world of how God has helped them (WHAT WOULD WE CALL OR SAY ABOUT THAT PERSON)

You being a genuine prophet, if YOU commit anyone of the aforementioned 11 example just to name a few in the name on God to help Black American because our situation mirrors that of the JEWS, well I think you get the point
Let’s keep it real, we can agree to disagree with being disagreeable Mr Harry Watley

S
Sylvainy R Tuesday, February 2nd 2010 at 4:09PM

In regards to the post Monday, February 1st 2010 at 6:33PM

My Brother if you will permit me to refer to you as such? You cannot ignore facts archaeological evidence being one of them, However, Historian lie but History remain fact, That being said if your only reference is the bible and you feel the bible should not be questioned as being the word of God, In this context I beg to differ, And NO I do not buy into your statement!!!!! 4000 years ago according to their own history which should be good enough for anyone. I don’t buy that foe one second, Because these are some of the same people who in present day (1) Suppress my people and yes that means YOU TO Mr, Harry Watley weather you choose to believe it or not, (2) These are some of the same people who claim that BLACK PEOPLE have no HISTORY, Do you believe that
Mr, Watley

The New revise version of the King James Bible do you know they and yes you know who I’m referring too, They move Egypt out of Africa and put it in the Caucasus Mountains which is where the Askanas Jews are from, Now could you imagine 300 years from now another brother black man or anyone for that matter would believe it why? Because it the word of GOD and how he help his people to move Egypt these are not my words but those of the new Revise Bible

Harry Watley Wednesday, February 3rd 2010 at 6:02PM

Hello Mr. Sosa,

Let me say this to you before I begin. You are so bent on proving me wrong that you mis-understand what I am saying. I could see that you are proud of yourself as an intelligent person and there is nothing wrong to have such high esteem of yourself. However, you need to slow down to understand what I am saying that if I am wrong you could intelligently respond.

Now, you think you understand what I’m saying, but you do not and here is why.
You said this, “those who cannot remember the past or refuse to look (his-story-History) are condemned to repeat it,”
Black Americans are a new breed or race of people that has emerged out of the ashes of slavery on this North American continent. Black Americans does not have a past to remember except slavery and present-day subjugation in White America. Consequentially, there is nothing for us to repeat. Now, the point that I am making to you is that Black Americans are a new breed or race of people. Now, if you feel that Black Americans are not a new breed or race of people that has emerged out of the ashes of slavery, then you need to present your evidence to the contrary.

Now, I mentioned to you that the Bible is the testimony of the Jewish people. I backed up my statement with the 10 Commandments and the troubles the Jewish people experience with the Egyptians.
You then proceeded to quote the Pentateuch from Genesis to 1King, which has nothing to do with my point that the Bible is the testimony of the Jewish people to the world of how God has helped them. What you need to do a show that the Bible is not the testimony of the Jewish people as I said that it is, okay.

Your intentions is to show me that if I committed any one of the 11 examples as a genuine prophet that you quoted from Genesis to 1King to help Black Americans since Black Americans’ situation mirrors that of the Jews when they were in bondage in Egypt, but then you abruptly cut yourself off assuming that I have forgotten your point, which I didn’t get your point.

Consequentially, what I read from your personality is that you consider me intelligent, but you are more intelligent than I am and you want to show me up. I have no problem with your desire to show me up. What I have a problem with is that you are not responding definitively to the points that I am making to knock down my points. You go on to talk about something else at the Caucasus Mountains. You are so self-twisted up that you are not able to see straight enough to understand what I am saying.

I am saying that Black Americans are a new breed or race of people born into slavery and have no idea of what it is like to be a sovereign people and for this reason, God has risen me up as God rose up Moses. I use Moses as a comparison and contrast since my task mirrors the task that Moses was given by God.

Now, as far as the authenticity of the story of Moses goes the point that I made you did not grasp it. Again, what I did was to connect the present to the past by using the ritual of the Passover.

You are arguing the Caucasus Mountains, archaeology, the Bible being the Word of God and I have already told you that the Bible is the testimony of the Jewish people. Askanas Jews and all of these items have nothing to do with the point I am making that the Bible is the Jewish people’s testimony.

I said that the Jewish people of today still celebrate the Passover every year since Moses instituted it 4000 years ago. The point is that the Jewish people of today did not start celebrating the Passover just recently. They have been celebrating it for 4000 years. Do you understand? Now, if I am wrong you need to show me at what point in time the Jewish people suddenly made up the Passover to celebrate, okay.

None of the things that you are mentioning as your defense includes the Passover when we actually know that the Jewish people today celebrate the Passover. Do you believe that the Jews celebrating the Passover today is a hoax? In other words, where did the Jewish people get this ritual Passover from to celebrate today? Therefore, forget about archaeology and Caucasus Mountains. Concern yourself with the Passover to prove that I am wrong and the story of Moses is false.

Tell me what you think.

S
Sylvainy R Thursday, February 4th 2010 at 3:36PM

Hello Mr Watley
I am humbled, but I’m not trying to show you up neither am I interested in trying to do so to you or anyone for that matter, It’s my opinion the more we think we know, The more there is to know I for that matter is not more intelligent than you, It sound as though you’re getting angry and upset as well, beginning to through insult and it’s not necessary, If that’s the case, please note that insults cannot be given but only taken Now moving forward, It’s my opinion based on the first 5 Books in the Bible which is ascribe to Moses could NOT be accurate or even be a the testimony or history of the Jewish people and their experience with the Egyptians and how God help them, All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize FOR power and profit having said that



five books of Moses, Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy.
My intention is to show that those books are spurious, and that Moses is not the author of them; and still further, that they were not written in the time of Moses until several hundred years afterwards
The evidence that I shall produce in this case is from the books themselves; and I will confine myself to this evidence only, I will therefore meet you on your own ground, and oppose you with their own weapon, the Bible
1- Everything in Genesis is prior to the times of Moses and not the least allusion is made to him therein It’s my opinion these books is in the third person, it is always, the Lord said unto Moses, or Moses said unto the Lord, or Moses said unto the people, or the people said unto Moses

2 -When Moses told the children of Israel that he received the two tables of the commandments from the hand of God, they were not obliged to believe him, because they had no other authority for it than he (Moses) telling them so; and I have no other authority for it than some historian telling me so

3- Why it has been called the Mosaic account of the creation, I am at a loss to conceive. Moses, I believe, was too good a judge of such subjects to put his name to that account. He had been educated among the Egyptians, who were a people as well skilled in science, and particularly in astronomy, as any people of their day; and the silence and caution that Moses observes, in not authenticating the account, is a good negative evidence that he neither told it nor believed it.--The case is, that every nation of people has been world-makers, and the Israelites had as much right to set up the trade of world-making as any of the rest; and as Moses was not an Israelite, he might not chose to contradict the tradition. The account, however, is harmless; and this is more than can be said for many other parts of the of the first Five Books Of Bible


4- The Jews say that their Word of God was given by God to Moses face to face; the Christians say, that their Word of God came by divine inspiration; and the Turks say, that their Word of God (the Koran) was brought by an angel from heaven. Each of those churches accuses the other of unbelief; and, for my own part, I disbelieve them all.





5 -There are matters in those books, said to be done by the EXPRESS COMMAND of GOD, that are as shocking to humanity, and to every idea we have of moral justice



6- When we read in the books ascribed to Moses, Joshua, etc., that they (the Israelites) came by stealth upon whole nations of people, who, as the history itself shows, had given them no offence; that they put all those nations to the sword; that they spared neither age nor infancy; that they utterly destroyed men, women and children; that they left not a soul to breathe; expressions that are repeated over and over again in those books, and that too with exulting ferocity; are WE sure these things are facts? are WE sure that the Creator of man commissioned those things to be done? Are WE sure that the books that tell us so were written by his authority?



7- It is not the antiquity of a tale that is an evidence of its truth; on the contrary, it is a symptom of its being fabulous; for the more ancient any history pretends to be, the more it has the resemblance of a fable. The origin of every nation is buried in fabulous tradition, and that of the Jews is as much to be suspected as any other



8- IT has often been said that anything may be proved from the Bible; but before anything can be admitted as proved by Bible, the Bible itself must be proved to be true; for if the Bible be not true, or the truth of it be doubtful, it ceases to have authority, and cannot be admitted as proof of any thing



9- Now according to history (The origin of Passover relates back to 3,000 years ago, when Jacob, a Hebrew, came to Egypt along with his twelve sons. Canaan, the land where they dwelt was struck by a severe famine. Jacob pleaded with the Pharaoh to allow them to live in Egypt) it WAS NOT MOSES

( Please NOTE BIBLE Chronology, The Exodus WAS DURING MOSES TIME FROM EGYPT which is 4000 years ago ) (and the Passover dates back 3,000 years ago) Now unless everything had stop and allow him to ketchup YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN there’s a some years in question





10- The Seder is the first night of Passover (first two nights in Orthodox and Conservative communities outside the land of Israel), a custom that has been practiced ever since the Hebrews were ALLEGEDLY free from the slavery. The word 'Seder' stands for 'order' and signifies the order of historical events recalled in the ALLEGEDLY Passover ( Please NOTE: 1 Everything in Exodus & Genesis is prior to the TIME of Moses and not the least allusion is made to him therein, thus the PASSOVER AND RITUIAL COULD NOT HAVE BEEN, It’s my opinion these books is in the third person, it is always, the Lord said unto Moses, or Moses said unto the Lord, or Moses said unto the people, or the people said unto Moses

Also please note: that even the Circumcision which the JEWS say was a covenant between them and God was done THOUSANDS of years in EGYPT by the Egyptians before the JEWS ALLEGEDLY got there
Here are my references
1 The Bible
2, The Lost Books Of The Bible
3 The Age Of Reason
4 The Egyptian Book of the Dead
5 Black Man Of The Nile And His Family
6 The Rosetta Stone
7 The Liturgy of Funerary Offerings
8 The Pyramid Texts
Now whether or not Black Americans are a new breed or race of people born into slavery: Please note WE stand on our African ancestor’s shoulder, My reference to the Caucasus Mountains, Was simple to show that the New Revised KJ Bible, shows that they have taken EGYPT out of Africa and place it in the Caucasus Mountains, Could you imagine all the new clergymen or Men of the cloth preaching the sermon telling it’s members that EGYPT is in the Caucasus Mountains according to the bible
Those who hold us captive have no intent of releasing you me all of us from captivity, Hotep

Harry Watley Thursday, February 4th 2010 at 8:31PM

Hello Mr. Soso,

I believe you are still missing my point and that is, the Jewish people of today celebrate the ritual of the Passover that started by Moses 4000 years ago. In other words, the Jewish people of today have not recently started celebrating the Passover. They have been celebrating the Passover longer than how old you are, am I right.

To make things easier, let me ask you this question. Is it a fact that the Jewish people of today celebrate the ritual Passover? Please definitively answer this question for me, okay.

Tell me what you think.

S
Sylvainy R Friday, February 5th 2010 at 7:01PM

Mr Harry Watley

Yes they do, And so do we as Black folks celebrate Black History in the month of February, every year does that mean that our History begin in the month of February some time ago? However please note if you control literature you control what people think the question now to you is WHO WROTE THE BIBLE

Harry Watley Saturday, February 6th 2010 at 3:32AM

Hello Mr. Soso,

Okay, I suppose that now you can see your way to understand that the story of Moses is true since the Passover stretches as far back to Moses.

Now, it is not so important that I prove the story of Moses is true, but it helps to make my point that the circumstances of Black Americans mirroring that of Moses should be reasonable enough for you to accept that I am too Black Americans as Moses was to his Hebrew people since I am the one pointing these items of facts out to you. Therefore, I am saying to you that what had happened to resolve the problems of the Hebrew people shall happen with Black Americans as well.

Do you understand what I am saying?

Now what I am trying to do is authenticate myself in your mind that you would accept me as Black America’s first genuine prophet.

It is not common meeting a genuine prophet of God. It is rare since it be hundreds to thousands of years that prophets come along despite their race. They are ordinary people as you and I are except that things happen with them that do not happen with other people.

Forget about Black history. Do you understand the points that I am making?

Tell me what you think.

S
Sylvainy R Saturday, February 6th 2010 at 8:30PM


Mr, Watley
Please do not misunderstand me saying that you’re right and, with all due respect to you DON`T take God IF there’s ONE, out of your thought and tell me to forget my Black history and to accept you as a Black America’s first genuine prophet. Not even as a joke, furthermore don’t even think for one second that you can manipulate this discussion to authenticate yourself to me as such for if you were a Black America’s first genuine prophet there would be no need for authentication
it’s my opinion you need to check yourself no disrespect, now what I was agreeing with is the fact that you are bent on proving your point based on the bible even as the evidence that stand before you has proven itself questionable (THE BIBLE) that is, and if one word therein is questionable or found to be untrue then everything contained therein is subject to question
For far too long too many has used the aforementioned book as a tool to keep my people in ignorance of the truth and perpetual mental slavery and that Mr, Watley is sad even the Jews today are questioning the Moses story and there history Why shouldn’t YOU Why shouldn’t WE Why shouldn’t I

Harry Watley Sunday, February 7th 2010 at 11:49AM

Hello Mr. Sylvainy,

Okay, you know want to clarify what you meant when you said that I was right in reference that the Jewish people today celebrates the ritual of the Passover that Moses started 4000 years ago. You are now saying that misunderstood you. I do not see where there was a misunderstanding. Either the Jews of today celebrate the Passover or they do not. It is as simple as that and we do not need to argue about it because you know that I am right. My point is that since the Jewish people celebrate the Passover today they must have gotten this ritual from somewhere and that somewhere is Moses. So, what I have done is to connect the events of the present concerning the Passover to the past when Moses instituted this ritual. I cannot be any clearer than I have been. Therefore, the question is not about the authenticity of Bible. The issue is about the Jewish people celebrating the Passover today, which would naturally authenticate the story of Moses who instituted the Passover 4000 years ago. I have made this case out for you in such an elementary way that any trial jury would agree with me.

Now, as all genuine prophets have had in the past and that is to convince their own people who they are I have the same challenge to convince you as to who I am. Prophet Moses had this challenge. Prophet Mohammad had this challenge. Prophet Jesus had this challenge as well, am I right.

You feel that it is a manipulation or some type of con game. However, how you feel is the same way Moses, Mohammad and Jesus people felt as well. So, your skepticism is not unprecedented, it has been the same throughout the ages. The prophet’s people told the prophet that he was crazy as you are suggesting that I checked myself in. So, you are not doing anything that was not done before by the prophet’s people, am I right.

It took Moses 20 years before his people were somewhat convinced that he, Moses could lead them out of bondage and when that happened it made way for the Exodus, am I right Mr. Sylvainy?

History shows that when any of the prophets came the prophet’s people denied him as you are denying me, am I right. So, of course, there is need for authentication and it will take time before you could really understand and accept that I can who I say I am.

I am baffled that an ignorant Jew that would question his own history would lead you, as intelligent as you are. That Jew is whom you should suggest that he check himself in to the mentally examined. Have I made any sense with you Mr. Sylvainy?

So, do you believe that since the Jews today celebrates the Passover it connects them to Moses of 4000 years ago especially since Moses is their ancestors?

Tell me what you think.

S
Sylvainy R Sunday, February 7th 2010 at 2:20PM

Mr Watley
As I`ve mentioned before whether or not you’re a Black America’s first genuine prophet, Jewish or Muslim for that matter is of no concern to me for I`ll defend your right to say think and believe as you do and once more there’s no need for YOU to authenticate yourself to me
Now what I`m concerned with, is individual imposing their ideology and belief on others who MAY not know better do not attempt such in this discourse, we can agree to disagree you have your beliefs I have my opinions
Africa, Egypt today is still being systematically RAPED Spiritually, Materially, Economically, Politically and otherwise in part due to the cause and effect of the result of a race of people and institutionalizes RELIGION and a belief in the so-call MOSES STORY which there`s NO EVEDINCE that it happen accept in the BIBLE, I have NO RELIGON and I believe in NONE, accept that of my AFFRICAN ANCESTOR, may the GOD AMEN RA continue to inspire HENCE at the end of every PRAYER it ends AMEN even the Jewish PRAYER, (AMEN RA) by the way Was and still is a Pharaoh

I`ve been most fortunate, Borne as a result of the testicles of a very proud Black Man GOD in his own right, and out of a womb of an equal graciously black woman a Goddess in her own right How can I curse the sperm or ovaries or the people that is that is myself ME my very existence For that reason i know that my first world people struggle will continue until the truth is reviled and this fabricated nonsensical arrogant story of MOSES, GOD and his chosen come to light
One should compare themselves to others for they will become Vain and Bitter Don't be (baffled that an ignorant Jew that would question his own history) Don't take my word for it go do the research

Harry Watley Sunday, February 7th 2010 at 6:41PM

Hello Mr. Sylvainy,

Our relationship began Tuesday, January 19th 2010 at 12:28PM when you said this to me, “Harry Watley There’s no archeological or Historical evidence to indicate that anyone JEWS or Otherwise was ever in the DESERT for 40 yrs”

Later, you said this on, “Tuesday, January 19th 2010 at 3:03PM Mr Harry Watley YES, I am telling that that the story of MOSES is not TURE, and there’s evidence to back this up,”

I presented other evidence to you in the absence of archaeological evidence, which was the Passover. In other words, since the Jewish people today celebrates the Passover as described in the Bible that their ancestors, Moses celebrated why is it so difficult for you to concede that I am right.

Furthermore, why is it so difficult for you to appreciate that I have opened your eyes to something that you did not know or did not believe and that is the story of Moses.

Why is it that you cannot be proud of me to have opened your eyes? Other rational and prudent people would have been grateful. Why it is that you are not so grateful?

Tell me what you think.





S
Sylvainy R Monday, February 8th 2010 at 11:59AM

Mr, Watley

It is not difficult for me to appreciate the fact that you’ve open my eyes to what my own people are doing and the perpetual arrogance in which some black folks continue to pray on the mind of the weak and less informed

And point blank Mr, Watley, I cannot be proud of what you’re doing by and trying to, project your ideology on others especially those who may be less informed less research by professing / proclaiming yourself to be a Black American First Genuine Prophet To Lead Black American Into Sovereignty by using this perpetual LIE that has been imbedded in the collective Psyche of my people as truth because the BIBLE said so, and if the bible said so then it’s the word of GOD and it should not be questioned thus continuing to mentally enslave, How could you? How Dear you?

What is sad! There are those who my follow you I could only hope there are brothers and sisters out there who are free thinkers that can get to them before you, and teach them to think for hem selves and not this
nonsensical arrogant story of MOSES and, GOD chosen people, The problem is
1 Most black folks / people goes BY the bible AND not in the bible…..
2 I the bible said so then! it must be true
3 As a people we were program to fear what we can’t see touch of feel Thus the bible and God will forever be used to keep those who believe in the bible in arrogance of the truth

If there was GOD standing before my I’ll have to question him/her who ever and here’s WHY according to the BIBLE NOT MY WORSD


1 GEN 7:2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not CLEAN by two, the male and his female. ( why would GOD make something that is not CLEAN)

2 GEN 7:8 Of clean beasts, and of beasts that are not clean, and of fowls, and of everything that creepeth upon the earth, GEN 7:9 There went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah

3 ISA 14:21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.
DEU 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin

4 Years of famine
II SAMUEL 24:13: So God came to David, and told him, and said unto him, shall SEVEN YEARS OF FAMINE come unto thee in thy land? or will thou flee three months before thine enemies, while they pursue. thee?
I CHRONICLES 21:11: SO God came to David, and said unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Choose thee. Either THREE YEARS OF FAMINE or three months to be destroyed before thy foes, while that the sword of thine enemies overtaketh thee

God be seen?
EXO 24:9,10; AMO 9:1; GEN 26:2; and JOH 14:9
God CAN be seen:
"And I will take away my hand, and thou shalt see my backparts." (EXO 33:23)
"And the Lord spake to Moses face to face, as a man speaketh to his friend." (EXO 33:11)
"For I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved." (GEN 32:30)
God CANNOT be seen:
"No man hath seen God at any time." (JOH 1:18)
"And he said, Thou canst not see my face; for there shall no man see me and live." (EXO 33:20)
"Whom no man hath seen nor can see." (1TIM 6:16)
I’ll ask you Mr, Watley, or any men which almighty GOD who knows sees hears understand everything that he created according to the bible, that ( could contradict) himself in such a way

Harry Watley Monday, February 8th 2010 at 10:27PM

Hello Mr. Sylvainy,

Mr. Sylvainy you have not giving me much to respond to except that the Bible is not Black America’s religious book of guidance. You do not seem to understand what I have been saying to you all along. I have nothing against the Bible. However, I do know that the Bible is not the religious book of guidance for Black Americans. Do you understand me?

Black America’s religious book of guidance is fourth coming. Religious book of a people always follows the Prophet, am I right.

Now, since I am Black America’s first genuine prophet is why I say that our religious book is forthcoming. Am I making any sense to you?

Consequentially, the quotes you give from the Bible means nothing to me for the most part. Therefore, I want you out of the Bible. When you speak to me, speak to me from your raw wisdom, okay. Or, if you want to you could draw comparison and contrast to make your point from the Bible, but not quote from it. So, if you quote anything from the Bible to me it would be going in one ear and out the other ear since it is not Black America’s religious book of guidance.

Mr. Sylvainy, Isaiah, Samuel and Deuteronomy are Hebrew people. I am a Black American and do you get my point?

So, I want you out of the Bible, okay.

Tell me what you think.

S
Sylvainy R Tuesday, February 9th 2010 at 11:14AM

Mr, Watley

Please allow me to remind you, That it’s (YOU) who have drawn a direct comparative analyses from the story of MOSES / THE BIBLE / and Moses newfound inspiration from God of the impending Exodus out of Egypt, by DECLARING YOURSELF (A Black America’s first genuine prophet that will lead Black Americans into sovereignty on a portion of the American continent,,,,, Allow me to quote YOU, (am I right?) Now based on that fact, I cannot go out of the BIBLE, I’ll stay in The BIBLE and USE YOUR own WEAPON which YOU have used thus far the BIBLE that is against you

1 When you Mr, Watley compare YOURSELF to a Prophet in the BIBLE, YOU are saying that a (God) if there’s one choose you to lead (Black America’s) If there’s such a thing as Black America’s

2 When you Mr, Watley say Black America’s religious book of guidance is fourth coming ( It is my opinion that will be just another religious book like the BIBLE),,,, that is intended to spiritually enslave my brothers and sisters who are looking for something to believe in other than themselves

3 Furthermore the quotes I’ve give YOU from the Bible, I didn’t expect THEM to mean MUCH TO YOU, and they couldn’t, (because YOU KNOW,) If and when anyone quote the BIBLE it puts FEAR in people and the definition of FEAR Mr Watley Is
F= False
E=Evidence
A=Appearing
R=Real

Do you get my point? Mr Watley Now if the Bible is not Black America’s religious book of guidance, (DON’T USE ANY PART OF IT PERIOD) for in doing so (YOU) are trying to manipulate those who are willing to believe anything

4 ( When YOU say YOU want me out of the BIBLE), Then DON’T QUOTE me (Isaiah, Samuel and Deuteronomy are Hebrew people. And you are a Black American and do I get YOUR point? DON’T TRY THAT WITH ME

5 Now please Mr Watley do not try to impose your ideology on anyone for your ideology is rightly yours and yours alone no one else, Like wise my opinion is mine and mine alone

6 How dear you how could you once again proclaim that (Black America’s religious book of guidance is fourth coming. Religious book of a people always FOLLOWS the Prophet,) indicating that the so-call Black America’s should follow YOU as opposed to them thinking for themselves

Now Mr Watley if you are proclaiming YOURSELF to be a Prophet if that’s a fact? Please not in this context that FACT is subject to question and that question to is

1 What have you done to prove yourself as such

2 What have you done to help improve the lives of Black America’s

3 What have you done to help black folks in general

4 Where can I obtain a copy or even a draft copy of your religious book of guidance

5 What is the doctrine a belief (or system of beliefs) accepted as authoritative of Black America

Harry Watley Wednesday, February 10th 2010 at 8:33AM

Hello Mr. Sylvainy,

Let me begin by saying that you want zero in on the differences of comparison and contrast as oppose to quoting. Quoting is what you do and that tells me what you are quoting you has accepted as your authority and guidance, am I right. For instance, when you quote what Isaiah subliminally Isaiah has become your authority and guidance. In other words, you are standing behind Isaiah.

But, not so, with me, I have said from the very beginning that God is my guidance. I have said that God constantly inspires me. So, God is the authority that I stand behind, Mr. Sylvainy. Therefore, I use the concepts of comparison and contrast that you would understand the essence of what I am saying. I have never quoted anything that Moses said since Moses is neither my guide nor inspirer. God is my guide and constantly inspires me.

So, let us not forget the point that I am making and that is, there is a difference when you quote from something as opposed to using that same something as a Comparison and contrast to get your point across, okay. That is why I said that I want you out of the Bible because you are quoting from the Bible and the Bible is not the religious book of guidance for Black Americans, okay.

So, when you say that quoting from the Bible puts fear in people and presumably you mean me, that is not so. The Bible cannot put fear in me since it is not my book of guidance. The Bible is a good book for those who are written about in the Bible and those people are not of my race. I am a Black American, a new breed or race of people that has emerged out of the ashes of slavery. Consequentially, by common sense Black Americans could not be in the Bible at all. Am I making any sense with you Mr. Sylvainy?

So, again, I use the Bible as comparison and contrast to get my point across to Black Americans since they know story of Moses very well. I often time use fairytale stories to get my point across as well. In other words, all stories have a moral especially if the story is relative to practical life. For instance, the moral of the story of Moses is about how one people suppresses another people out of racism and how God helped them which is the same or worse situation Black Americans are in, am I right. So, that is why I use the story of Moses and not quote from the Bible since the Bible is not my religious book of guidance. Do you understand me well, Mr. Sylvainy?

Now, you seem to think that I am imposing my ideology on you, but I am not. What I am doing is imposing my intelligence and good common sense on you. If you were complaining, that would mean your mind is resonating and recognizing good common sense thinking and you do not want to admit to it yet, am I right.

I proclaim that Black America’s religious book is forthcoming because of two reasons. Firstly, all religious books follows a prophet, am I right. A religious book speaks about a particular prophet, people and the prophet in question. Therefore, you must have a prophet first to write about which becomes that particular people’s religious book, am I right. Now, since I am Black America’s first genuine prophet I would have to precede our religious book that will follow.
Secondly, all religious book presently in existence does not have Black Americans written about in those books, am I right. Consequentially, Black America’s religious book is forthcoming as I said. So, I am not trying to manipulate you. I am giving you straightforward and good common sense.

Lastly, you want to know what I have done as Black America’s first genuine prophet. Well, Mr. Sylvainy, I am opening the eyes of Black Americans of our impending sovereignty. What I am doing was the same thing that Moses did. Moses opened the eyes of his people of the imminent Exodus, am I right.
Now, as far as a system of belief goes, Black Americans must embrace our only permanent solution as well as our religion.

Tell me what you think.




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Sylvainy R Wednesday, February 10th 2010 at 11:51AM

Mr Watley

Have you been DRINKING? Or are you DRUNK? On all points you are wrong, But I’ll continue to play along with you, but before I do I’ll say this to you, He who knows and knows that he knows NOT is a damn ASS avoid him, Having said that, do not try to play the ass with our people especially those who may be less informed,

As I’ve said to you before I’ll defend your right to say think and feel any way you choose, However Mr Watley your attitude in my opinion is divisive to our brothers and sisters

and does not unite in anyway, You are bent on proclaiming yourself a Prophet, for your information Mr Watley you are NOT, A Fraud A DIVIDER yes, but NO Prophet, You are ill informed regarding our African History our Culture, you LACK information you LACK knowledge you even LACK understanding of your own culture, Mr Watley, That is a sad state to be in Its my opinion you need to check yourself

My mother an African Goddess in her own right once said to me Never argue with an Idiot because people looking on cannot let the difference ( do YOU get my point )

There’s an expression Mr Watley, that say’s IN THE ABUNDANCE OF WATER THE FOOL IS THIRSTY, You need to do some research and STOP trying to divide us with this nonsensical ignorant Black America / MOSES/ GOD CHOSEN/ BS
we are already divided enough

Don’t even think! you can impose your ideology on me, I guess you never say on January 2nd 2010 at 3:46PM (They should read them to understand from the testimony of the people that these books specifically belongs to how God helped these people in their dire situations) If that is not quoting the bible I don’t know what is Mr Watley I think you need to get off that horse you’ve been riding and STOP smoking those funny cigarettes

We need to unite our people not divide them the carbon copy of life Mr Watley is black / the blackness of a woman’s womb the blackness of earth I could go on but I think you get the message Proud of your African heritage and the rich culture they have left behind for us

Hotep

Harry Watley Wednesday, February 10th 2010 at 8:33PM

Hello Mr. Sylvainy,

Mr. Sylvainy, what you are doing now is criticizing. However, the one thing that you said I would respond to is because it is not criticism since you have made a call.

Apparently, you do not understand the definition of the word quote. So, you said this, “(They should read them to understand from the testimony of the people that these books specifically belongs to how God helped these people in their dire situations)”

Then you said this, “If that is not quoting the bible I don’t know what is Mr Watley”

These words of mines is not quoting from the Bible since you will not find these words in the Bible, am I right. Apparently, you do not know what quoting means.

So let me ask you this question, why do you suppose that I am not Black America’s first genuine prophet?

Tell me what you think.

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Sylvainy R Thursday, February 11th 2010 at 12:25PM

Mr Watley
Because Mr Watley , it’s your attitude and blatent lack of respect for others, anyone refering to thamselves as a genuine prophet? Or a genuine person! DOES NOT and I repeat does not, impose their beliefs on others, They do not divide / They unite, They do not tear down / They build up, They teach others to think for themselves as opposed to having someone think for them they do not force their ideology on others, all these things you’ve have done, I’ve read your blogs, it was not I who stated (They should read them to understand from the testimony of the people that these books specifically belongs to how God helped these people in their dire situations)” it was YOU who stated that NOT I, maybe, just maybe! you should go back and read what you wrote, As a brother to a brother it’s my opinion you need to do some more research on our African History / Heritage and Culture and you should be proud of it because to me it don’t sound like you are

We as a people my brother stand on the shoulders of our ancestors through the ages

Harry Watley Thursday, February 11th 2010 at 1:54PM

Hello Mr. Sylvainy,

Let me make it clear to you. I said that the Bible is the testimony of the Jewish people to the world of how God helped them in their times of trouble with other races as well as personally helping them. For instance, the Jewish people testified that God help them out of bondage and slavery in Egypt by the Egyptian race. It is also the testimony of the Jewish people that God help them personally when Moses received the 10 Commandments, which was mortal guidance for a people who had none since they were in bondage and slavery over 400 years.

Now, what is the point that you are making? Am I wrong? No, I am not wrong. Am I quoting a passage out of the Bible? No, because what I said is not a quote. So again, what is the point that you are making?

Am I forcing my ideology on others? Of course not, because force is not necessary. Anyone that read anything I say could see the truth in my authority. So, if they feel as if though I am forcing something on them that is because they are not ready yet to accept the truth as well as me. But, in time, things will change. I am sure that the Hebrew people felt that Moses was forcing his ideology on them since they did not realize that Moses was their prophet as I am Black America’s first genuine prophet, am I right Mr. Sylvainy?

So again, what is the point that you are making? Tell me what it is that you are having a problem with, okay.

Tell me what you think.

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Sylvainy R Thursday, February 11th 2010 at 2:46PM

Ok Mr: Watley

I’m GOD and you’re the Black America’s first genuine prophet, to lead Black Americans into sovereignty on a portion of continent in which you live that YOU could call YOUR very own country with borders, please note: If you compare yourself with others, (MOSES) according to HISTORY HE doesn’t exist, you may become vain or bitter, for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself

Harry Watley Thursday, February 11th 2010 at 3:24PM

Hello Mr. Sylvainy,

Let us walk through this issue slowly, okay.

I wonder if you understand why I would make the comparison and contrast to Moses along with his people. Could you tell me why I would use the story of Moses and the Hebrew people whether the story is true or not as I tried to deliver a divine message to my people, Black Americans who are a new breed or race of people that has emerged from the ashes of slavery?

So, tell me why I would use the story of Moses in delivering my message to Black Americans.

Tell me what you think.


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Sylvainy R Thursday, February 11th 2010 at 4:54PM

Mr Watley

There’s NO issue for you and I to walk through slowly, I cannot tell you why YOU would choose Moses and the Hebrew people story to deliver YOUR SO-CALL divine message to YOUR Black Americans who are a new breed or race of people that has emerged from the ashes of slavery, Now I don’t care ,/ don’t want to care / don’t care to want to care, I think we’ve beet this to death and it’s not going anywhere, If you’re convinced you are a prophet to lead Black Americans, then I agree YOU ARE, ,and I’m GOD, So I must have inspired and anointed YOU Black Americans first genuine prophet

I’m not your Physiologist and you can’t pay me enough to be YOUR Physiologist, Thus I can’t tell you why YOU would say what you say

Hotep

Harry Watley Friday, February 12th 2010 at 2:51AM

Hello Mr. Sylvainy,

Let me remind you that you challenged me from day one. You thought you were an intelligent man until you met me. Again, you challenged me from day one.

I am wiser than any Black or White person is. Common sense would tell you that I would have to be in order to be successful to lead Black Americans out of subjugation and into sovereignty, which is a divine task. Likewise, is not it common sense that Moses was wiser than any Hebrew or Egyptian that made him successful to lead the children of Israel out of bondage? Of course, Moses and I as God genuine prophets must above those who challenge us as well as our own people. We are wiser because God has made us to be wiser. If anyone else was wiser than I am then I could not be the genuine prophet as I say that I am.

Okay, having said that let me explain why I use the story of Moses. Firstly, the reason is elementary. I thought you would have easily known why I use the story of Moses. It does not take a rocket scientist or a psychologist to see that the story of Moses mirrors the circumstances and plight of Black Americans, am I right. Well, I should not ask you if I am right because you have admitted that you do not know and believe that it would take a psychiatrist to know. You are not as smart as you have pretended to be. So, you have the answer why I use the story of Moses. It does not matter whether this story is true or not even though the story is true. What matters is the understanding and the moral of the story, Mr. Sylvainy.

I would suppose from here on in you may want to drop out of my sight, but at any time you have a question for me please do not hesitate to present your question or challenge me at a later time.

I would have liked our dialoguing better if we could have kept personality out and keep intelligences and facts bubbling over, right. I tried many times to get you to answer questions. But by then, your feelings were hurt in your personality began to show.


Anyway, do you believe that Black Americans would be better off as a sovereign people on a portion of the American continent then we are presently?


What say you?

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Sylvainy R Friday, February 12th 2010 at 1:44PM

Mr. Watley

I’ve come to the conclusion that you must be a MAD man that may be sitting in a physiatric ward somewhere with a computer with nothing to do, and all day to do it , Seeing you’re I AGREE WITH YOU, YOU are that you say you are there you have it does that make you feel better and more accepted

Harry Watley Friday, February 12th 2010 at 4:21PM

Hello Mr. Sylvainy,

Since you have personally dialogued with me and read my blogs as well as read my responses to others, you have a feel that I am who I say that I am. I am Black America’s first genuine prophet that will lead Black Americans into sovereignty on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders. I said that I am wiser than you are and I would have to be since I am responsible to God to lead my people, Black Americans out of subjugation. I have to be wiser than the people whom I am to lead. Does that make any sense to you Mr. Sylvainy, because it should make good sense to you?

Now, if I was not who I say I am, naturally you would have trumped anything that I have said. However, since you and no one else could you have resorted to satire? Why do you not try answering some of my questions? You want to make mockery of me to boost your deflated ego. But, that is not necessary I understand the simple psychology that you are pulling and I still love you.

As I said before, all of God prophets were mocked, why should I be different?

Anyway, do you believe that Black Americans would be better off as a sovereign people on a portion of the American continent then we are presently?

Tell me what you think.



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Sylvainy R Friday, February 12th 2010 at 5:00PM

Mr Watley

Ok I gathered you have already mapped out what portion of the American continent, You want to lead Black Americans too. If so can you please tell me (1), which part of the continent (2) Will you be the soul Government on that portion (3) what religious laws will be implemented (4) what will be the name of this religion (5) will there be a Constitution to govern (6) who will write this Constitution

Harry Watley Friday, February 12th 2010 at 10:58PM

Hello Mr. Sylvainy,

You asked a few questions listed by number.
(1), which part of the continent? Ans. Tentatively from the border of South and North Carolina to the Canadian border. Then, from the Mississippi River to the Atlantic Ocean.

(2) Will you be the soul Government on that portion? Ans. Absolutely not. I am not a political leader. I am Black America’s first genuine prophet. The best minds from among us will put together our government.

(3) what religious laws will be implemented? Ans. The laws are yet to come from me.

(4) what will be the name of this religion? Ans. Our religion is, “The Salvation of God for the Sovereignty of Black Americans Who Are Descendents of Slaves.” In short, the name of our religion is, ’LIFE’. The God we worship is the God that brought us up out of bondage and subjugation in White America.

(5) will there be a Constitution to govern? Ans. Of course, we will have constitutional laws. Our government will be the best democratic government the world has ever witnessed.

(6) who will write this Constitution? Ans. The best minds of all sorts from among us.

What say you?




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