Why can't other Black Women be Truly Supportive of other Sistahs in Real Life?

Sister Irma,

With all due respect, I am deeply disappointed that you have been gossipping about me to Siebra. What is your real problem with me? I've never intentionally tried to shame or hurt you so when Siebra commented that no reason you, Irma are saying those things about me. I want to know what things and why?

..."Jen, as "I" am more about EDUCATION than any thing else...

..."Therefore please help me better understand the need for this addition to your defense, OF YOUR civil, legal rights because "I" myself believe that "I" should not be having this impression of a fellow sister in spirit or a member in my race"...
Thanks and (smile)
Irma Robinson | delete

My Response to you was ...

..."@ Sister Irma Just chant for me. One of these days, I'll be what you want me to be"...
Jen Fad | delete


So what did you take offense at what I said? I was being honest. I know you don't call it praying, but you chant. Is that Not so?

What would have been the better response for you Sister Irma?

Then I re-read your question and so I try to explain by saying ....


@ Sister Irma
..."I was accused of being a racist by another Black person so I was saying to her that I don't discriminate regardless of their religion, gender, or ethnicity thus I'm an equal opportunity employer as the labor law states...

This means that when someone is being direspectful to me, I'll do what needs to be done. I guess I should also add age to the blog. I hope you have a better understanding and if not let me know so that I can try to explain it better"...
Jen Fad | delete


Then you come back with

..."JEN, AS LONG AS YOU REFUSE TO INGORE/ ACCEPT ME AS WHO "I" AM AND HOW I LIVE MY LIFE AND CONTINUE TO SAY OVER THAT EACH INDIVIDUAL IS RESPONSIABLE FOR THEIR OWN BEHAVIOR...THEN PLEASE TRY TO ALLOW YOUR SELF TO AT LEAST NOT CHAGEGE THIS AROUND (at least on tis post)...

I DO NOT CHANT (PRAY) AS A BARGINING TOOL FOR MY OWNSELF AND I SURELY WILL NOT DO IT FOR YOU OR EVEN FOR MY GRANDCHILDREN, BECAUSE I AM NOT AN EXTENTION OF THERI BEING THE ONLY EXPERT ON THEM SELVES NOR CAN I BE ARROGANT ENOUGH TO EVEN THINK THAT I EVEN HAVE THE RIGHT TO LIVE OR CONTROL WHO AND WHAT THEY ARE WHEN IT COMES TO MY BEING AN EXPERT ON THERI WANTS, NEEDS, DESIRES ECT"...


You seem to always misunderstand my blogs Sister Irma when no one else does... I just want to know what the real Issue is with you and why you find it easy to gossip about me to Siebra?

Gossipping according to the Webster's Dictionary for which I also agree...

1 : a person who habitually reveals personal or sensational facts about others

2 a : rumor or report of an intimate nature b : a chatty talk c : the subject matter of gossip

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/...

Sister Irma,

There you go again... misundertanding. The matter would be settled by revealing what you said about me to Siebra. Afterall it is about me so shouldn't I know?

If not, then I call that gossip.

Sister Irma,

Honestly I have a big problem reading through your comments, because many times I don't understand your responses. Perhaps I have the misunderstanding (then and not you) because I don't really understand your writing (that's no insult). I have a great girlfriend that I can chat all day on the phone, but the minute we start emailing... I have a problem.

Perhaps this is the bigger problem. As for your original question... I didn't mean anything by putting Jamaican Black in lower case... I saw that I did that, but I didn't feel the need to go back and backspace to correct the letters. So if that would clear up the issue then there it is. I thought your question was irrelevant, but to you it meant the world.

The original issue is what you have been saying to Siebra about me...

Why do you need to talk to Siebra about a problem or issue you have with me if you truly believe in Education?

I've addressed you head on and all you keep doing is accusing me of ignoring your questions and being closed minded.

I don't believe that I'm closed minded nor do I believe that you should be gossipping about me to Siebra.

I'm a independent free thinking black woman and I have spoken my mind as have I confronted both you and Siebra head on.

Its truly on you two now. I'm innocent. I've not talked about you nor have I said anything in secret about you that I don't feel confortable about saying in the open.

That's the Gospel according to Juicy Fruit.

( I think you are jealous of me and the way I blog.)

Sister Irma,

Alright, I accept your friendship request as the beginning of the reconciliation process. Hopefully we can really better understand one another.
Thanks,
Juicy Fruit

I wish I knew why not only Black women, but most women I know always are least to support each other. I am not giving an opinion of any women here, but as an over all view of how I see women and characters of the female. It's so easily for females to become filled with envy and jealousy with the least of things. One word or one look can trigger a effecto of deciet. I feel that each woman of course is different, ways of upbringing, values and culture. Then I look at the heart of a woman. Some women do not know how to love their sisters and brothers. They are selfish and uncaring about others. Oftentime, I find fewer women friends are best...there is always thoughts going undetected and because they are not down for real love they'll believe or make up reasons to hate. It's up to each woman to start making their emotions control and their thoughts lean toward repect and civil thinking. Women have to learn and use virtues. My advice isn't much, but perhaps I've made some common sense called we call "Motherwit."

I agree Miisrael.... And also I will take the blame on the sweeping the issue under the rug.... Jen you remind me in so many ways of myself ...but I was much younger... Im to assume you are perhaps in your mid 30's... I grew up with my mother... my aunt and my grandparents... these Women who thought we were tough... hell like mules... I was working at 15... no childhood... A grown woman @ 15 with real responsiblities.... Through the growing up process my male cousins and brothers always spoiled me... and they made me rough.... I grew up resentful of girls who could go to the prom... go on dates... games... movies... I was working!!!

My only female best friend lives in Texas and I have 1 female cousin... who are my genuine friends... I could trust them with my children... and they are my life... These two women taught me that there are some women out there to be trusted ... but you have to give thim a chance... Even now... I work... go to school.. and race to my computer to BIA... I even blog from work... anticipation to see what you ladies have to say.... Yesterday was not a good day... I just wanted to DROP IT.. I tend to get a little emotional on certain situations... I grew up with the ideology... It Takes A Village and growing up around my grandparents... those old bitties in my neighborhood... honestly were that village... I did not appreciate them then... But right now if I could sit down in a rocking chair on one of their porches.. I would love to t hear a story... Tell on my child... "what he do??"

And I am a believer in loyalty and trust... if anyone of my sisters and My Lady says anything to me... It stays with me... I don't care how it may appear... But that is just how I am...

So, I just want to convey my thought... Much love to all of you.... and I say this because I come from a race of people.. who lived together... who worshiped together... and looked out for each other... My people are all over... I don't have to be there to feel your anguish... your pain... your humor... If I have love and compassion... I know what I have to do...

So.... Like Miisrael.. I had to add my fitty cents.... Now you, Irma and Siebra have to figure out if your going to fix this or just put another patch on it...... And I did not read the dialogue between you three... I read Miisrael... cause she always has such wisdom.... and LIGHT......

OH Jen.... cheer up!! Big sis can come to NJ is still have family in New York... I do visit regularly... I can find one of my weed head friends and buy some sangria and we can sit on somebodys roof top and just act a fool!!! :~(

@ Miisrael I think you hit the nail on the head, upbringing, values, and culture is so much apart of this. I don't think the Matriachs in our families have encouraged many of us to work with one another, but has given many of us a false sense of independence. The attitute "I don't need nobody else" is not good or befriending people that you can use. I'm not saying that's the case with all, but the attitude is there.

We don't have to be envious or jealous of another person if we build up our own selfesteems and self worth, besided hating on someone else doesn't hurt the person, but it us the hater. It just takes too much time and energy to be envious and jealous in my opinion.


@ Cynthia

Now that sounds like a good idea, because I like to act a fool!! I really appreciate what you and Miisrael added to this blog and I know no one intentionally swept the issue under the rug, but its more or less a defense mechanism or is that coping mechanism.

I guess women should be encouraged from an early age like boys are to participate in team sports that teach team building skilss rather than buying us dolls and house sets that make us isolated or train us a certain way.

I know for sure that if we could do some of these things, we would be in a better shape to cooperate with other women in other areas of life. I used to be isolated and to myself at one point after experiencing the drama from family and friends, but somehow it just seems to me that isn't the way its suppose to be.

I would like to bond with women especially other Blacks, but I find the same issues. It doesn't keep me from trying, but I'm weary from the disappointment.

Yes ..... Irma... but you say one thing that I believe differs from our lives... You came from an influential .. well to do family... Your choice was to live a modest life... So would you say you lived a more upper middle class lifestyle?

cool.... YEP... I stayed with that man for 10 years... He's still in... So you know... Im doing alrite...

Grandchildren??? I don't want to see grandchilldren until I am at least 64 and have silver hair... nope... no grandkids not now...

Jen... like myself... I look for friendship from women... but it is hard.....

BUT this is where I stand now... You asked me a question on one of your blogs and I had to think on it before I just answered it...
Juicy... ok here it is... this is what I am seeing. You have to make a decision... if you are here to provide a service for building up the bridges which we obviously see are weak regarding the black female perspective... then we all(You, Irma, Siebra, Miisrael, Me) need to fix this... as associates/internet friends or as just bloggers providing information...
It's up each of you... I am going to always be candid straight forward and let you know...
when you are wrong... trust me I will tell you....
when you are right I will support you....
But right now... before I can really interject my opinions I
need you to tell me what it is that you want to accomplish from these blogs?
But I believe that as a circle of friends... I should be able to have at least of of you ladies whom I am comfortable with that I may be able to communicate with, if I have an issue or situation with one of my BIA sista friends... and not consider it "talking behind one's back" WHEN it becomes malicious, stride, etc.... then that's a RAWHIDE moment...
this back and forth is not good at all...
this has been going on for what 5 days... it's old ...

I have more to say... but like Minister Dr says... this is one HOTT MESS... Ladies we save our energy for those MEN!!!

I have to re group

Thank you My Lady... so you have revealed your "secrets".. lol...

I try so hard to give my sons the best of me... BUT I too am still a work in progress and of course I am still learning... but as long as I remain humble... Im good...

@ Cynthia
I call it quits, because frankly I'm tired already! I do hope to reconstruct some damaged bridges with Sister Siebra and Sister Irma. I don't want to continue to alienate them.


@ Sister Irma & Sister Siebra,
I was really upset with you both because I felt you guys had wronged me which took me so far back into my past that I can't pinpoint how far. I know PMS has a part to play, but most of it is just me feeling hurt and betrayed by the sistahs.

From now on, I'll be staying in the present and looking forward to the future as much as possible so help me God.

Sister Siebra I'm sorry for hurting you.

Sister Irma I'm sorry for calling you senile, but the reason was because you were saying I deleted you as a friend and I did no such thing. You made a huge gesture yesterday by offering me a friendship request and I happily accepted so that's a done deal.

@ Brother Rob
I'm sorry for causing it to look or appear as if we are like two Jen Fad and Rob sitting in a tree...K-I-S-S-I-N-G. I know you are a very righteous Muslim brother even if I'm a Judeo-Pagan-Catholic Woman. Please don't stone me for bringing shame on you. ((giggling))

girl.... I'll dig the pit.... ((lol))

Just remember not to dig the pit too deep, eh!

no... I wouldn't do that.... Are you ok?

Bye Juicy!!

@ Cynthia,

I'm ok and thanks for asking. It's really challenging for me at times I must admit when it comes to the sistahs, but this journey is a life of lessons, eh!

@ Sister Irma,
I thank you for your kind words and I take no offense with them.

The jealousy in the black community is bad with men and women in my opinion. You have a valid point by raising this issue. I think a lot of these problems stem back to the days of slavery. We may be a free people but we are still screwed up in the head as a people. Maybe that is the way it was intended to be.

I notice a lot of issues in our community such as: why do we envy one another so much? Why do we tend to have such rage and hate against those of our own color? Why do we stick our nose in the air when we feel we have "made it"? Why do we try to act like we are other than black? WHY CAN'T WE BE ON TIME ONCE IN A WHILE?

I have a childhood friend who is in the same business that I am so we are competitors. He takes a crap on me every time he gets a chance but I am willing to be friends again when he decides. He is very much against the black race and he is black, very black in complexion but his wife is white and he tries to be what many would consider white.

It is people like this that have made me stronger because I figure no matter how much a person hates on me, I will not let it rock my foundation. Right or wrong, they need to be careful because I might just hate back. Human beings have a very negative demeanor by nature. I try to be nice to everyone but many people see that as a weakness. I feel a person has to earn my respect because you do not win wars by offering tea and crumpets to your enemies.

My new motto is: I will be nice and try to like everyone but if you have an issue with me, I will try to take care of the issue in a positive way but if that person keeps hating on my then i will roll up my sleeves and get down in the mud with them, but only for a moment because I am in it to win it.

It's like the bully in High School or in corporate America. Never let a bully or a hater have the upper hand. I tend to knock the bully off his/her pedestal and feed them elbows (figuratively) until they submit. I will always be nice but I will never be a pushover.

..oh, not tomention the site's mission statement as related to this being a community of shared ideals by way of communication and the only way to have a communicatio is to have a sender and a reciever...

Jend not answering any of the blogs related to "YOUR HEATED DEBATE" IS TOO ONLY CONTINUE TO SPREAD PREJUDICE, BIAS, ONE SIDED EMOTIONA LOUT BURST, THOSE BLOGS YOU READ ABOUT, FOR YOU JEN IS THE MISSION STATEMENT OF THIS SITE...NOT TRYING TO GET IN MORE BLOGS GOING NO WHER EXCETP AN EXCUSE TO POST ANOTHER ONE SIDED ARGUMENT FROM YET ONE MORE EMOTIONAL OUT BURST...

...AND IF TRUE YOUR SAYING jEN THAT "i" AHVE NO MEMORY ABOUT DELETAING YOUR FRIENDSHIP...THEN i WILL NOW SEND YOU ANOTHER FRIENDSHIP REQUEST, AND OH YES THAT YOUR CALLING ME "MOM" BEFORE YOU LEFT BEFORE...HAVE YOU DELETED THIS...IT WAS YOU POST THEREFORE "i" HAVE NO WAY OF DELETING THIS...HERE COMES THE FRIENDSHIP REQUEST...AND IF DELETED WHAT "I" SAY HERE "I" WILL POST THIS ON MY "EMAIL TO A-L-L SO JEN YOU DONS'T HAVE TO TRY AND FIND A WAY TO EXPOSE WHAT IS IN MY EMAIL BOX NOR CAN YOU DELETE IT AS YOU HAVE IN MY COMMENT BOX...LOL...

OR AS MISSRAEL'S LATEST BLOG SAYS, YOU CAN RUN BUT YOU CAN NOT HIDE" and, I do only deal in F-A-C-T-S, not personal emotional out bursts...and as a WARRIOR GODDES I NEVER RUN FROM A FIGHT, DIALOGUE, FACTS, ECT...OOOOOOOOOOOOOO. LOL

"I" STILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO REREAD YOUR POST CHALLENGING SIEBRA TO COME OUT AND COMMENT ON WHAT YOU SAID AND IF I FORGET AT LEAST YOU HAVE NOT DELETED YOUR OWN COMMENTS ON TIS MATTER...Y-E-Y...

OOOOOOO..."YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" (S-M-I-L-E)

j-e-n, THE ONLY WAY TAHT YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SAY "I" TOOK OFFENSE TO YOUR ASKING ME TO CHANT (PRAY) FOR YOU IS YOUR 1000000% THA T"I" AM WRONG FOR NOT USING MY PRAYS AS A BARGINING TOOL...MY CHOICE OF HOW AND WHY i PRACTICE THE TEACHINGS OF MY CHOSEN RELIGION IS AN PERSONAL ATTACK OON YOU JEN...P-L-E-A-S-E AND YOU SAY 'GOSSIPING' IS WONGE...BUT ALL TINGS ARE RELATIVE AT LEAST FOR ME ...(NAD THERE BING NO RIGHT OR WRONG IN DIALOGUE ONLTY STEPPING INTO ANOTHE RPERSONS SHOES...AND VIOLATING A PRESONAL TRUST "i" STAND BY IT IS A STRIK AGAINST THE 10 COMMANDMENTS...AND SOCIETY AT LARGE. (SMILE)

NOW jEN "i WILL NOW LEAVE YOU WITH YOUR "BEGGING THE QUESTION" ARGUMENT AND GO SEND THA T'FRIENDSHIP' REQUEST TO YOU, AS A WAY TO SHOW "I' ONLY SEND OUT OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO AND SMILES TO ALL ON THIS SITE ALONG WHILE TRYING TO GET BETTER eDUCATED AND MORE ENLIGHTENED...

(SMILE)

Filmwave, it is my personal belief taht we too often take it upon our own selves to treat others as our personal property and remain in denial of doing this because it has become so automatic...example,

"I" am not on this site searching for an identity nor premission to be me!!! "I" have worked all of my life and do so in my daily life, being the best person "I" can be and "I" have chosen as my guide in doing this as to always step into the other person's showS in order to in no way call them wrong for having the same civil, G-O-D (by their own individual ) choice (s) to be the best person THAT they can be...

because "I" am not arragant enough to want/ need/ desire to live their lives for them nor to deny them and only that individual to be the one and O-N-L-Y EXPERT ON THEIR INDIVIDUAL SELF.

(S-M-I-L-E)

Jen, if you are sorry for doing what you did then please prove it to your self...as a practicing N.D.B. I am unable to be able or allowed to do any thing to cause you to believe that "I" have any contorl over your life...If you want to cahang you own behavior then this is your choice...I remove any and all of my obdstilces in my path not you...

no "I" am not trying to insult you or to misunderstand you and your prupose to kame you feel better or worst...I am only trying to help you understand I don't have the poser to forgive you Jen only you can do this or maybe you can go to the Father for this...I know I use to do this...but now I believe wrong is wrong and right is right, but only "I" can change my own behaviors not you jen nor I fo ryou...(smile)

and, Jen if I did have the posers to forgive you then I would do so gladly, but my duty is to try and teach that I am always proud not sad when I have been able to over come any oblsticle inmy way...and Jen "I" am so , so glad the you have chosen to remove me and my purpose on this site as an obsticle in you life. (smile)

I AM VERY,VERY PROUD OF YOU JEN...PEACE. (smile)

THERe YOU GO AGAIN J-E-N, refusing to accept that what you do is your choice and your responiability and on you not me...this is not personal...and "I can not thank you enough for this post as it is all about...

EDUCATE!!!!EDUCATE!!!EDUCATE!!!! (SMILE)

I ALSO RESPECT AND ACCEPT ONLY AN OPEN MIND CAN ALLOW ALL SIDES OF AN ARGUMENT IN ,AS THIS REQUIRES STEPPING INTO THE OTHER PERSON'S SHOES..."yo"

...AND, JEN IT IS STILL YOU ONLY PROVING YOUR REASON FOR POSTING, POSTING, POSTING...or are those blinders still hiding you from youhave jet to answer my original question...the only answer you have given is yet more proof of your postings have only to do iwth J-E=N's problems of lace of an open mind taht any thing done by Siebra or me..."I" aksed you something direct and all of this un proven bull about how Siebra and I have a personal, private agenda on, about you hs you wringly believeing that "I" am tis into you, period..."I am not the type to stand on another personas back or shoulders to life my slef up at that person's expense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nor am I on tis site seeking an identity or social approval, I am only here to try and stop the kinds of brainwasing taht says only the Blcak community are out to distroy the peace on earth good wil toeards man...OOOOOOOOO, (smile)

jEN, "i" AMD A FULL GROWN ADULT AND IF YOU WANT TO KNOW SOMETING ABOUT ME...THEN JUST ASK ME...NOW IF YOU NOTICE EACH TIME YOU MENTION MY NAME YOU ARE TELLING SOMETHING THAT I SAID/ DID...AND AFTER A ZILLION BLOGS DOING JUST THSI YOU NOW HAVE THE NERVES TO START ASKING ME THIS AND EVEN WORST YOU HAVE THE GALL TO ACCUSE ME OF BEING IN ENVY OF SOME ONE sos...PLEASE ...THIS IS WHY i LISTEN TO THOSE BD, BAD, PEOPLE LIKE mINISTER fARRAKHAN ANS REV. J.W....

AND WILL BEFORE GRATEFUL TAHT MS AND MR. O LISTEN SO THAT WE ALL CAN BE ABEL TO COUNTER ALL OF THESE SOCIAL NORMS ABOUT ANY THING BAD, DISTRUCTIVE COMES ONLY FROM THE BLACK COMMUNITY...(SMILE)

AND, THER IS NOT A MOMENT IN MY DAILY LIFE THAT I AM NOT HAPPY, SAFE AND SSECURE IN "I" CAN SE ALL AS MY EQUAL AND GIVE RESPECTA ND LOVE UNCONDITINALLY...EVEN TALK TO YOU JEN WITH THE FULL ACCEPTANCE THAT YOU, J-E-N MUST HAVE THE SAME CIVIL, MORAL RIGHTS AS "I" DO....(SMILE)

jEN, LETS TRY IT THIS WAY...WHAT EXACTLY IS GOSSIPING IN YOUR PRECEPTION

WHY DO YOU BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND NOT SIEBRA, IRMA, SOME MAY SAY IT IS BECAUSE NEITHER OF US ARE cHRISTIANS IN THIS CHRISTIAN NATION TAHT HAS EQUALITY TAHT IS ALS LONG AS WE DEMAND EQUALITY...

WHY DO YOU KEEP PROVING ME CORRECT IN YOUR PUROPSE IS NOT TO DIALOGUE AS RELATED TO THE MISSION STATEMENT (AND ESPECIALLY DEMENAING OUR BLACK RACE AS THE ONLY NEGATIVES) AND YOU HAVE YET POSTED ANOTHER BLOG THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY ORF THE OTHER BLOGS ON THE ORIGINAL REASONS YOU ARE TRYING TO PROVE ENVY, ECT.

EXAMPLE,

NOT ONE TING IN THIS JET BRAND NEW EMOTIONAL OUT BURSE HAS EVEN EVEN BEEN A PART OF MY PRESONAL LIFE...SO "I" WILL POINT OUT THAT HERE ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE POSTING, POSTING, POSTING TO TRY AND REACH TOP BLOGGERHOOD...F-A-C-T-S...F-A-C-T-S..."YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" (SMILE)

jEN i SEE YOU WOULD RATHER CONTINUE THIS CON...AND LEAVING OUT WHAT i ACTUALLY SAID TO YOU WHICH IS i ASKED ABOUT YOUR NOT DOING AS THE STANDARD ENGLISH SAYS TO DO WITH PROPER NAMES AND HOW i WAS SKING YOU TIS TO FIND OUT IF IT HAD ANY THING TO DO WITH YOU CONCLUSION ABOUT THES E PREOPLE'S RELIGON OF HAVING THEY TAKE DRUGS AND MAYBE HAVING WITHCH DOCTORS...

MUSH LIKE YOU CON ON YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT I SAID...AND YOU ACT LIKE WHAT I SAIND IS NOT RIGHT OUT THERE ON THE www...(SMILE)

BOY NO OWNDER YOU KEEP TRYING TO DENY i HAVE AN IDENTITY...BUT HIS ALSO IN ON YOU jEN...AND YOUR HAVING ROBERT OUT THER ON THE WWW IN DENAIL TAHT HE EVEN CARES ABOUT YOU...NO NOT IS GOSSIP BUT OUT THERE ON THE www...OF AR YOU UNABLE TO READ WHAT ROBERT SAYS NOW??????????????!!!??

(otflmao)

...the day before this "i" posted, not behind jen's back but out in the open WWW saying she only posting, posting, posting this con about me and my daughter (who is almost perfect-lol) only to help promote her up to top bloggership...and pointed out what "i" believed to be the facts...Jen has chosen to ignor this that she can not delete of change into her owne image of truth, reality...

AND, MY SISTA AND MY SPIRITUAL FRIEND cYNTHIA...THE WAY "i' LOOK AT TEH MEANINGS OF FRIENDS...ANYONE WHO DON'T WANT ME AS A FRIEND, IT IS THEIR LOSS. (SMILE), BECAUSE ALL "I" DO IS BLOW BUBBLES OF PEACE AND GOOD WILL TOWARD ALL OF MANKIND. JUST LIKE YOU DO DR. ARTIS, BUT I CAN'T DO IT IN SUCH A REALXING AND FUNNY, CALM WAY AS YOU DO LOL (SMILE)

CYNTHIA, YOU ARE A GODDESS AND A MOTHER GODDESS TO THOSE TWO , ALMOST PERFECT, SONS OF YOURS. LOL (SMILE)

ONCE AGAIN "I" AM ONLY RESPONSIABLE FOR MY OWN ACTIONS...

WHEN JEN ASKED ME TO SHOW HER WHAT "I" HAD SAID BEHIND EHR BACK..."I" DID JUST THIS Y-E-S-T-E-R-D-A-Y ON A BLOG " MY WORD IS MY BOND"...

ALTHOUGH "I" BELIEVE TAHT THERE ARE SOME REASONS TOONLY POST ONE SIDED, POSTINGS THAT HELPS ONE TO LIFE THEMSELVES UP BY WAY OF PUTTING OTHERS DOWN..."I" DON'T BELIEVE THIS IS THE WAY TAHT THE CREATOR WANTS US TO TREAT HIS CHILDREN BUT WE ARE INDIVIDUALS ARE WE NOT AND THIS IS PART OF HUMAN BEHAVIOR AND SELF PROTECTION...

DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS FREE SPEECH, BUT "I" DON'T BELIEVE OR ACCEPT THIS AS THE M-O-R-A-L THING TO DO...BUT AS "I" SAY ENDLESSLY "I" AM ONLY RESPONSIABLE FO RMY BEHAVIOR...AND "I" POSTED WHAT JEN A-S-K-E-D ME TO DO ...'YESTERDAY'. (SMILE)

lETS SEE HOW MUCH WE HAVE IN COMMON...my birth mother died when I was 10...my father and mother were never married...I grew up as an only child in a mansion with people who never missed church, but they earned thier millions as boot leggers...more later about my sisters half sisters and brother, some are millionaire, some are precahses and I am not a milliaair nor do I want to be one...I have no way of having to envy anyond as I have so much love and self-esteem until I fully believe that I am the most important person on the earth9 except my 3 grand children) now as one who has no respect for the Fraude theory but the oggstalp form of psychotherapy...you know the one wher you have a seat of your self taling to the persopn acrooss from you in the chir and the person is also the other side of you that you want to get intough with...you know the side that others see of you yet you can not see it your own self...

now where were we on the upbringings...(smile)

JEN, "I" FULLY ACCEPT TAHT "I' CAN NOT MAKE YOU / GET YOU TO UNDERSTAND, I RESPECT ALL WHO ARE THE BEST PERSON THEY CAN BE THEREFORE "I" CAN ONLY SEE YOU AND ALL OF MANKIND AS MY EQUAL AND GIVE EACH AND EVERY HUMAN BEING MY UNCONDITIONAL RESPECT AND LOVE...

but, Jen this is on you to live your life in the way taht makes you: secure, happy and productive as you Jen and only you Jen are the only 'expert on Jen, and not me...
and the same goes for Siebra, robert, ect....

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO... (S-M-I-L-E)

J-E-N, it is up to you to change this around...because you chose to show me enough respect to ASK ME WHAT IS WAS I SAIDN BEHIND YOU BACK...I HAVE BEEN WAITING FO RHOURS TO READ MY ANSWER IN FULL AND COMPLETE WHAT IT IS "I" ACTUALLY SAID ABOUT YOU SINCE YOU WERE NO LONGER ON MY FRIENDSHIP LIST AND ON TOP OF THIS YOU HAD LEFT THE SITE...i HAV EPUT IS THERE BEFORE YOU IN TWO BLOGS NOW...AND, YET YOU HAVE CHOSEN TO CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT ME RATHER THAN TO ME...

MY LATEST ATTEMPT TO TELL YOU WHAT I SAID ABOUT EHIND YOU AND ON THE OPEN INTERNET ARE IN MY BOLGS "MY WORD IS MY BOND...ETCV. iHAV TALKED BEHIND YOUR BACK AN SHOWED IT ON THE OPEN www AND I HAVE ALSO ACCUSED YOU OF COMMINGIN A FRAUD ON THE OPEN WWW AND YET YOU STILL CHOSE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU SAY I SAY AND NOT WHAT ANY THING ABOUT AN COMMENTS ON MY BLOGS OR EVEN ON YOURS OF QUOTES DIRECTLY FROM AND BY ME, IRMA ROBINSON. (SMILE)

HELL ROBERT IS THE ONLY ONE OUT THERE SUPPORTING YOUAND CTUALLY IT IS MORE ABOUT HIM DENYING YOU BEING IN HIS LIFE TAHN ABOUT YOU OR YOUR WORTH TO HIM...(SMILE)

AND, YOU ACCUSE ME OF EVNYING YOU...D-U-H.????????????!!!!!!!!!!(SMILE)

j-e-n, ARE YOU WOMAN ENOUGH TO PUT WHAT i SAID ABOUT YOU BEHIND YOU BACK ON ANY OF YOUR BLOGS THAT YOU HAVE ASKED ME TO TELL YOU WHAT IT WAS i SAID ABOUT YOU...

H-U-H- JEN...ARE YOU READY TO PUT ANY FORMS OF TRUTH, FACTS ON YOUR BLOGS...

YOU SAID YOU WERE WOMAN ENOUGH...NOW I CHALLENGE YOU TO TRY AND GET UP ENOUGH NERVES TO PROVE IT...(SMILE)

oH cYNTHIA, YOU WERE MARRIED TO SOMEONE IN THE MILATIRY...MY HUSBAND WAS A CAREER mARINE.LOL NOW THAT SHOULD ANSWER THE FINANICAL QUESTION...YES WE ARE MIDDLE-CLASS, AND WE HAVE BEEN LUCKY TO HAVE LIVED WITIN OUR BUDGET AND IT HAS PAID OFF IN OUR RETIRMENNT,,,TAHT IS UNTIL ONE OF THE CHILDREN SAYS MAY I BORROW AND NOT MAY I HAVE FROM YOU ...(SMILE)

JUST WAIT UNTIL YOU GET TOWE GRANDCHILDREN AND YOU WILL REALLY KNOW WHAT LIVING HAS BEEN ALL ABOUT ENCLUDING RAISING THOSE CHILDREN RUNNING YOU NITS...(SMILE)

cYNTHIA, "i" LIVE my in a way taht "I" try to leave this planet a better place than "I" found it...I live my life the way my Mom taught me...always do tings that you want to do but make sure that you can respect you self that you had not done any horm to others...she learned this from her past generation and I passed it on to my children...I try to change as my enviornment changes...I am so proud to be a member of my race and culture until I some times feel sorry for those who are notmembers of my race and my culture...I do not jusge by color of skin and I believe athat those who hate by skin color in our race are teh same as tose of the KKK menatlity, but I can not deny or want or pray or wish they have any less rights than I do...

I will dialogue, because all on this site must know by now about I don't believe in right or wrong if we are just willing to step into the other person's shoes...

and, if anyone has noticed this agout me, I can argue just as hard for the things I am against as the things that I am for, and I often mention this is from my critical thinking classes to doany less taht be able to step into the other person's shoes is to remain in your own ingorance...

My goal is to be a winner in life...to put all of my enery in thislife,,,the here and the now as tomorrrwo will have its own ups and downs and ues the past to enjoy the present and be able to prepare for the future...

my persoanl motto is MAKE TODAY BETTER THAN YESTERDAY AND IF YOU CAN DERAM IT YOU CAN DO IT...THATS ME ALMOST IN A NUIT SHELL...OH, i HAD A BROTHER WHO DIED AT 23 OF DRUGS...MY SIS TER WHO IS A MINISTER IS A RECOVERNING DRUG ADDICT...AS YOU SAY SO WELL cYNTHIA YOU MUST MAKE YOUR OWN PATH IN LIFE SO DON'T ALLOW ANY ONE TO GET YOU OUT OF YOUR COMFORT ZONE...AND ENLIGHTMENT...THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOU BEING YOU AND ALSO MIISRAEL...I KNOW YOU DON'T CHANGE WITH EVER BLOG...OOOOOOO

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