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Pick a Faith, Any Faith

Jen Fad · Tuesday, June 22nd 2010 at 9:39AM · 242 views
Disclaimer: The views expressed in this commentary in NO way are to be characterized as thoughts or feelings of yours truly, Juicy Fruit, but are the views of Pastor Rodney Parsley for the Centers for Moral Clarity. Thanks for your support Rev. Father Craig Amosss... ((giggling))

If you doubt postmodernism has firmly entrenched itself in the Christian church, consider this: a California seminary has announced plans to become a multifaith clergy training center. Claremont School of Theology’s vision is aspiring pastors, rabbis and imams studying side by side.

Exactly what they’ll be studying, we’re not sure and won’t be eager to find out.

Claremont is historically associated with the United Methodist Church, but even that denomination’s liberal leadership has taken exception to this new step in the seminary’s evolution. The UMC’s University Senate voted earlier this year to end its financial support of Claremont. Unfortunately, other people are convinced that this is a good idea, and they’ve received $10 million in pledges for the venture.

It’s difficult for us to imagine theological training that would be useful to Christians and Jews and Muslims (never mind Buddhists and Hindus, two faiths that Claremont hopes to serve in the years to come). Liberal Protestantism has ventured far beyond the tenets of biblical Christianity in recent decades. In the context of postmodernism – a mindset in which there are many ways to God, however you might conceive Him (or Her? or It?) – perhaps Claremont is telling us that there is no real difference between any of these faith traditions.

Dr. Albert Mohler, one of the foremost observers of the church and the culture today, warns us that Claremont may be the first interfaith seminary, but surely won’t be the last. A seminary president himself, Mohler notes that Claremont is casting a vision of religion in which “ministers, priests, rabbis and imams, along with Buddhist and Hindu spiritual leaders, are just different varieties of clergy and that the different religions are just brand names for different traditions.”

God help us.
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Cynthia Merrill Artis Wednesday, June 23rd 2010 at 1:08AM

oh my.,. ya think father brother hoss hit mann Amos can add his philosphy and teahings to this seminarΨψ¿

Cynthia Merrill Artis Wednesday, June 23rd 2010 at 1:17AM

hey juicy,, as soon as i ace this dayum anatomy i`ll be back to my bloggin... jfad...u are postin ur behind off... i think ill have a creating idea for a blog... do u remember the bible story about DAVID with the jawbone of an azz?¿?!

Steve Williams Wednesday, June 23rd 2010 at 7:21AM

This is the kind of stuff that livens up the board Jen, thanks. Cynthia, I wonder who are you going to take that jawbone to?? I think the character is Samson though, David used a sling.

Richard Kigel Wednesday, June 23rd 2010 at 10:01AM

"THERE IS ONE GOD. WE KNOW HIM BY MANY NAMES."
--From the Ancient Rig Veda, the oldest known religious scripture

Thanks Juice. Another in your seemingly limitless supply of fascinating and intellectually challenging blogs.

The only thing I don't get is this comment:
"Exactly what they’ll be studying, we’re not sure and won’t be eager to find out."

Why isn't the writer curious? It seems to be that anyone who has any interest in spiritual seeking would want to know what sort of training would be useful to Christians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, HIndus and other religions.

Anyway, thanks for this. You make us THINK!





Steve Williams Wednesday, June 23rd 2010 at 12:04PM

Rich, obviously he is not a postmodernist, whatever the hell that is. But perhaps it explains why he would be afraid to hear their ideas about teaching.

Amenseph Hetep Wednesday, June 23rd 2010 at 12:22PM

Interesting post.

I believe that communication and understanding of various belief systems is helpful in the areas of eliminating ignorance, unjust criticisms and a viewpoint into the cultural connections to faith and God.

There are many interfaith councils and organizations dedicated to developing the understanding, respect, and cooperation among the various religious faiths. Having a interfaith seminary is just another approach to the same.

I agree with Richard in asking what exactly would they be studying. Is this really necessary? $10 million plus believes so. However when one leaves that setting they will still be who they choose to be, based on their interpretations and doctrinal approach to their faith in God.

@ Richard K. - It is through Ancient Egyptian Religion Language, and symbols that provide the first historical records of religious literature.
The Rig Veda is known as one of the oldest texts of any Indo-European Language. The Rigveda was composed roughly between 1700 -1100 B.C.E., while the Egyptian philosophy existed 5500 B.C.E. and beyond; the Rau nu Pert em Hru are scriptures that span the entire history of Ancient Egypt and predate the Rig Veda by way over a 1000 years. Providing the oldest writings of spirituality and teachings of a God concept...

Teachings like this are often left out of settings like that presented when it comes to seminary teachings. Nevertheless many seminarians do know these things but do not share or present the significance of such authenticity to student s and followers of religious groups at large.

Cynthia Merrill Artis Wednesday, June 23rd 2010 at 12:51PM

Thanks Steve.... I can't remember all of my bible stories.... It was Sampson and the Lion.... lol

Siebra Muhammad Wednesday, June 23rd 2010 at 1:45PM

AWESOME!!!

Cynthia Merrill Artis Wednesday, June 23rd 2010 at 5:41PM

Hello.... Im studying those Dayum bones for Anatomy... and that one came to mind...
((Robert!!!!)) I want to give it to my Professor... the ole wuss...

Harry Watley Thursday, June 24th 2010 at 4:02AM

Hello to All,

However, it you want to label it, faith, religion or worship of God is specific to the people that God has visited and God will eventually visit those people that God has not visited yet.

When God visits a people, God rises up a prophet, first. God prophets are risen up for specific causes and not for general reasons. For instance, Moses was specifically risen up to resolve the conflict between the children of Israel and the Egyptians that lasted over 400 years. Prophet Abraham was risen up to address the conflict of paganism among his people. Prophet Mohammed was risen up to remove paganism from among his Arabian people.

I said all this because it seems to me that you all think that a relationship with God is general as if going into a supermarket shopping for a religion. What I am saying is that it does not work that way. Genuine prophets are the only ones that specifically introduce religion to their own people and that are how his people are to worship God from then on. Genuine prophets introduce prayers to his people as to how they are to pray to God. Prophet Jesus introduced the Lords Prayer, am I right.

Therefore, religion is not a generalized thing. For instance, Prophet Abraham introduced the religion of Judaism to the Jewish people. Prophet Moses was reintroducing Judaism to the children of Israel since they had lost their way worshiping God the Egyptian way. Prophet Mohammed introduced the religion of Islam to the Arabian people. Likewise, Prophet Harry has introduced the religion of LIFE to Black Americans. Am I making any sense with you all?

Bear in mind that no one of a different race could teach another race his or her religion. For instance, an Arab cannot teach Judaism to a Jew and vice a versa since the spirit of that, specific religion resides only in that people. For example, the spirit of Islam only resides in Arabian people. The spirit of Judaism only resides in the Jewish people. The spirit of life only resides in Black Americans. Therefore, Claremont School of Theology is false.

Again, religion is not a generalized thing. Religions are specific to each people that God has visited and will visit.

Consequentially, there is no such thing as picking a faith.

Tell me what you think.

Steve Williams Thursday, June 24th 2010 at 8:03AM

Brother Harry,

You are forgetting one thing. A religion, faith, whatever, does not have to involve a GROUP, it can be entirely INDIVIDUAL. This is the case with myself, you cannot put a LABEL on my FAITH, I LISTEN to many, PROPHETS or not, however you like to LABEL them, and by the way, the religion of LIFE is already taken, I have CLAIMED IT FOR MYSELF.

Richard Kigel Thursday, June 24th 2010 at 10:46AM

Dear Amenseph:

Thank you for that information. I stand corrected!!!

Harry Watley Friday, June 25th 2010 at 2:21AM

Hello Steve,

You said this, “You are forgetting one thing. A religion, faith, whatever, does not have to involve a GROUP, it can be entirely INDIVIDUAL.”

Perhaps, you did not understand anything that I said so I will explain it again for you.
When it comes to faith, religion or worship man is out of his sphere and into God sphere just by using the words faith, religion or worship. Therefore, we ought to look at things from the perspective of God and not from the perspective of man.

Now, I said that only God is responsible for raising up genuine prophets. Such as Prophet Abraham, Prophet Mohammed, Prophet Moses and Prophet Harry.
Secondly, prophets are the ones responsible to introduce their people to God and this is done by way of religion. For example, Prophet Abraham introduced Judaism to the Jewish people. I introduced Life to Black Americans.
Prophets introduces prayers to their people as well. For instance, Prophet Jesus introduced the Lord’s Prayer. Prophet Mohammed introduced the Al-Falaq prayer to his Arabian people. I have Black America’s first prayer that I will be introducing as well. Black America’s first prayer is a prayer of acknowledgment and submission to God.

Consequentially, religion is not an individual thing since you are not the only person of your kinds in the world. Religion is a racial thing and that is why one race cannot serve God through a religion that belongs to another race of people. Furthermore, you are not a prophet. You are an individual. Steve you are entirely confused as to how God, prophets and religion work.

Tell me what you think.

Jen Fad Friday, June 25th 2010 at 1:57PM

@ Brother Harry,

[Consequentially, religion is not an individual thing since you are not the only person of your kinds in the world.]

Perhaps religion isn't individual, but spirituality is. What say you Brother Harry? Let me know what you think?

P.S. I don't think you are respecting Brother Steve's opinion because you are attempting to impose your opinion upon him as Truth. That's not nice Brother Harry. Respect is mutual.

P.S.S. Just my $0.02 worth.

Harry Watley Sunday, June 27th 2010 at 10:04AM

Hello Jen,

You said this, “Perhaps religion isn't individual, but spirituality is. What say you Brother Harry? Let me know what you think?”

Spirituality has no button-down definition. Spirituality means something different to different sect of people. However, religion has a button-down definition. So, I cannot answer your question unless you explain to me what spirituality means to you. Am I making any sense with you?

You said this, “P.S. I don't think you are respecting Brother Steve's opinion because you are attempting to impose your opinion upon him as Truth.”

I explained to Steve in my post dated June 25 at 2:21 a.m. that a religion could not be an individual thing since prophets introduced religion to the people. It would be stupid for a prophet to introduce religion just to himself. Consequentially, it would not be necessary for him to be a prophet. The person would be as nutty as Steve is to assume that religion could be an individual thing.

I believe that you do not really understand what respect and disrespect is. Jen I believe that you confuse my disagreeing with Steve as disrespecting Steve’s opinion. In other words, to disagree does not mean disrespect. Furthermore, I seldom have respect for opinions. I gravitate more towards facts and feasible opinions, which are factually base.

Anyway, there is no such thing as individual religions. Such a situation would be categorized as the person’s personal belief and not a religion. A religion at least two people or more must believe in it.

Tell me what you think.



Steve Williams Sunday, June 27th 2010 at 10:17AM

Brother Harry, I have proof that religion is an individual thing. You are a prime example.

Respectfully,
Brother Steve

Jen Fad Sunday, June 27th 2010 at 11:59PM

Brother Steve,

I believe you just hit a homerun ~~~ you hit the ball out of the park!

ROBINSON IRMA Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM

So that's where you have been Doc. (smile) NOw that jaw bone was a great wake up call wasn't it???????? looooooooooooooooooooooooooool...

ROBINSON IRMA Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM

You know me and my asking questions Jen...my question is will this be teaching the 10 Commandments ?

Me because "I" am a N.D.B/ who follow these Commandments and it is only by leaving out a few that I can pick and choose the ones that allows any form of prejudices against even one of my fellow human beings...you know that one about us all being GODS creations. (smile)

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