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Intersting...very interesting, Jen Fad! Makes one go hmmm...
Good Lookin Out!
Peace and Love,
Greg.
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Thank you Jen. I totally understand this speech. We are the bullies of the third world. People still do not comprehend the reason for 9/11. The American public seems to think our enemies appear out of thin air. Mr. President, Congress, leave Iran alone dammit!
Question. If Ron Paul becomes President (but his own party will see that he does not) would he keep his promises on Foreign Policy, or like every other in recent memory, renege?
@ Brother Steve,
I think Ron would be forced to renege like all the other Presidents who had good intentions to make the American foreign policy better.
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Greed is as greed does... It will soon turn and bite them on the ass harder than they've been bitten before. The United States would be a lot better off if they'd mind their own business...greed and power will not allow it to happen.
"Before you can clean somone else's backyard...you have to clean your own first!"
It appears that we are all in accord with this one Jen!
Peace and Love,
Greg.
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I couldn't agree with you guys more. What's done abroad is coming home to roost!
Clark, 100% with you but would like to add to your last point, something we of course have heard before, but maybe should think hard about. If a tree falls in the forest, and no one hears it, does it make a sound?
LOL!
Thank you Sister Jen.
Greg, so nice to see you again. We should talk sometime, compare notes again.
The problem with the ideal that the U.S. should mind their own business is that many other countries will not allow us to do that. Some of these countries want to use us for what they need and then toss us to the side when they feel we are not needed anymore. The U.S. can't win when it comes to many of these 3rd World countries. The President of Iran needs to seek psychiatric treatment.
Sister Jen, on this one I have to respectfully disagree. President Ahmadinejad is just as sane as President Obama.
Let me explain my last comment. Iran is Iran because of the British 100 years ago, followed by the Americans, in the imperialist tradition.
It's ok Brother Steve ~~ I like agreeing to disagree~~~ I think a person who wants to annihilate another nation is not quite right in the head no matter how eloquent he speaks. When things get to the point where you feel life would be better without a paticular nation of people~~~ as Hilter ~~~ then something isn't right.
~~~ I don't support Zionism just think something is wrong with the Iranian president~~~
Here is something to wonder about, and may be seen as relevant to this discussion or not. But I think it is a small example of a pervasive and misplaced desire in this country that everyone should be just like "us". I saw a flier from my mom's church that the youth ministry is planning a trip to the Crow reservation and is asking for financial support. Now the Crows are a western tribe I believe, in any event I am sure they are not anywhere near Philly. So thousands will be spent to send these kids on a field trip across the country to make sure those poor Crow Indians have the opportunity to become good White American Baptists???
I don't have a problem with the Iranian President and his openness. He's just another Hilter in my opinion. He would make better use of his time and resources by helping to make peace agreements with Irsrael and the Palenstians rather than trying to make nuclear weapons. Dubai has started infiltrating ships that are questionable that may be taking nuke building supplies to Iran.
I honestly don't believe that everyone else should be like Americans, but many people in the third world do want to be Americans (I'm not saying all, but many want to have their piece of the American dream). The problem with many Americans is that we don't know anywhere outside of the States except for what we see on CNN and other American media outlets.
If no one realizes that the Iranian President is "mad" except me then I'll be the lone American who attests to this fact. He like Abacha was to his own Nigerian people. He's willing to do anything to meet his own agenda even if it neglecting what the citizens of the country want. Oh well~~~ we will see how the situation unfolds.
Again I don't support the Jewish people one way or the other except to pray for the peace of Israel (which includes both the Jewish and Palestianian people) as I am commanded to do so in the Bible.
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and His Nation had their Democracy destroyed in 1951 by the same agents of Ignorance that placed the European shame in the Middle East in 1948.
then in 1980 these agents of Ignorance, allied with SadaamHussein, to gas and kill 1 million Iranians; and on the north the agents of Ignorance daily kill, on the east these agents daily kill, on the west the agents of Ignorance daily kill, and to the south the agents of Ignorance daily kill...
Each nation should have an opportunity to develop themselves;
life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness----
THe Iranian nation sent Bush a letter of Cooperation; yet they got a surrounding of Wars and threats from RhodeIsland sized, 200 nuclear bomb, apartheidnaziMade, manifestJew destiny state----threatening His Nation of 90Million.
come on inspiration, who is mad?
Brother Rob,
I beg to differ with you. Anyone who openly says that another nation should be obliterated from the face of the Earth and really serious about it and proceeds to take steps to do it~~~ their elevator isn't reaching the top floor~~~
Hmmm?
I don't disagree with you regards cause and effects Iranian /US relations, but the point that makes me say that the Iranian President is insane/mad is to annihilate a group of people~~~ That's insanity.
I love my country, but their international polices need to be revised. So if this "highly intellectual" Iranian President should now say that America needs to be annihilated and refuse to see us as a sovereign nation~~~ would people here still feel the same about him? He's not fooling me with his eloquent words and much speaking.
This talk is not inspirational nor realistic;
birth rates for israeliEuropeans is the same as other European nations.
the majority population is the same as south florida retirement homers;
the young israelis got dual citizenship, just like moms and grandmas; many of them share the same gender crisis issues of "western nations"---
the israeliPalestinian, jewish, christian and muslim, populations do not believe in birth control, or genocide of their own babies---
so the palestinian jewish, christian and muslim populations still have 6-10 babies per family and few homos.
bottom line, israel is an artificialDemocratic state--its a theocraticAparteid Nuclear State with 3-4 million people with dual citizenship; already the palestinians are 6-7 million.
just as the afrikaners and bullConnorAlabama Klan, learned, you cannot let them vote and you cannot kill em all.----who is really mad/insane?
Brother Rob,
I'm still interested to know what the Al Quran says regarding the question I posted on your profile page. Will you please give me your scholarly scholarship? ((giggling)).
Until then, I'll agree to disagree with you on the one point (mad/insane Iranian Pres) for the sake of PEACE.
Shalom. ((hugs))
by the way... your team (Germany) came in 2nd for World Cup... did you see the match?
I'll look for the question?
Spain actually was an ally of Germany in WW2---so technically it would not have been a nation in 2010 to become World Cup Champion without German Support....
AlQur'aan Kareem was presented to Mohamed(as) 1431+ years ago.
The 2010 state of israel is a european shame state developed in 1948 by the Colonialist states, in the "un"----after europeans and americans allowed for the gassing of 5.89 Million europeanJews in EUROPE; 20 Million Africans, 20 Million Asians and the destruction of a WorldWar.
During the life of Mohamed; the baniIsrael or yehuda were in Mecca, yemen and many areas----
Mohamed told the Believer that their Belief was based on the Believers belief in AtTaurat and the Laws of all the Monotheistic Prophets and Family of Adaam.
Mohamed(as) had to make treaties with those baniIsrael---many of the treaties were broken by the jews and he enforced the treaties and became the greatest of the Monotheistic Prophets and the Family of Adaam
At the death of Mohamed(as) he actually owed a debt to a yehuda man, his Armour and SHield.
Of course, The Believer understands by Studing AlQur'aan, Torah and Injeel that the people of Musa divided when he brought Laws from The Creator---those that wanted laws and Allaah went with Musa, those that wanted gold, idols, etc. wandered and became maybe Europeans.
So, bottom line, AlQur'aan Kareem does not mention 2010 state of Israel---
AlQur'aan does mention though that the Believer must be for good and against evil--
You are a Medical Professional with Tremendous inspirational and intellectual Abilities.
I am just a somewhat disciplined Reader---old and losing my eyesight----
I would believe that Scholarship and Education would be Easier for you---
but you are welcome to visit the "little siebra abraham, frightened deleters" Blog for more information---
Clark, very important information. Thanks for passing it on.
@ Brother Rob,
Thanks for that information although I had to read it 3 times to understand it. I guess my eyes are growing dim, too although I do have sympathy for your eye situation seeing how your blog picture is worn and dated. It probably reflects how old you are eh
@Brother Clark
I find it hard to believe that Israel is not a sovereign state (afterall didn't they win the war of 67 when all those Muslim nations came against them)? If that being the case aren't they entitled to the land?
Then again if Israel is illegal why then will they not recognize Palestine's right to sovereignty if they are guilty of the same? I do understand the reasoning that nuclear weapons offer some protection or insurance against other nations like the US who is the only country guilty of using a nuclear weapon.
It's just that I think its wrong to publicly say that another nation should be destroyed. I don't support Zionism nor do I think Israel is innocent as she pretends to be. I just think the entire situation is complicated by people who have terrorist ties with known terrorists. I do think Israel is guilty of treating the Palestinian people like step children, but at the same time violence begats violence.
Israel should stop the settlement building, Palestine should denounce Hamas, and the groups should select a leader to go to the table to talk about peace. Palestinian state should be recognized as well as all nations should get rid of its nukes.
But Sister Jen, the land was not theirs.
I mean to say, the entire State of Israel exists on land taken from others.
During World War I, the British sought Jewish support in the fight against Germany. This and support for Zionism from Prime-Minister Lloyd-George led to foreign minister, Lord Balfour making the Balfour Declaration of 1917, stating that the British Government "view[ed] with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people"..."it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Is...
[Its not that the Palestinians love violence for the sake of it, but they were done an incredible injustice, and have been left no recourse but that. The media never tells you this; we have to read it for ourselves. ]
This is what I call "keepin" them honest. Here I sat and watched PM Benjamin Netanyahu on Larry King over the weekend saying how he would be more than happy to sit down with the President of Iran as long as he agrees to stop his nuclear program. Can you imagine? I thought the Israeli PM was sincere. Is he a Zionist?
Thanks for all the very interesting commentary and I feel very enlightened reading fromall of you. Honestly this is the best insight from the elders & its~~~ for free~~~ Awesome! I'll keep reading as well as posting intersting things from Middle Eastern News media/outlets here especially if I don't understand what's really behind it.
"Watch it Clark!" LOL!
@ Brother Clark,
American Foreign Policy is inefficient where e=quality and fair=ness is concerned. It looks as if we really haven't learned anything as a nation from the WTC Attacks on September 11th, 2001.
...AND, HOW DARE THE PRESIDENT OF iRAN trying to position himself to be America's equal or even better than her...she is still the one and only country to heve ever used a nuclear weapons on their fellow humans in a (oh, but Japan was a Buddhist nation)...so sorry , these people were probably not civilized any way...lol (smile)
It is really funny when I even just see that to believe that saying they are going to attack one nation is worst that actually attacking two nations?!? but, this is a Christian nation and Iran is not...huh...
So robert every thing you just said was not harmful to these countrys because America was the cause of all of what you stated along with other nonMuslim nations.
MAY GOD HELP US ALL.(smile)
I wonder how much love those familys with no mothers, fathers, sisters, brothersare so happy in the midle east over their dead in 9 + yeras...Oh I really had to laugh as those pictures of our president being made up to llik lkie WHO and with the same passion. lol (smile) DEAD, WOUNDED, HOMELESS, CHILDLESS IS ALL THE SAME TO ME. (SMILE)
Clark like steve said, thanks for the info...I have watched the history of how Israel came to be on "I" do believe documentations o fit on every educational and history channel there is and having read what you just said is the first time "I have been able to understand it at all...
Thank you so much for completing this puzzle on how Israel came into being that has haunted me for years and years. looooooooooooooooooooooooool (smile)
Now I will go back and read it again..................
Clark like steve said, thanks for the info...I have watched the history of how Israel came to be on "I" do believe documentations o fit on every educational and history channel there is and having read what you just said is the first time "I have been able to understand it at all...
Thank you so much for completing this puzzle on how Israel came into being that has haunted me for years and years. looooooooooooooooooooooooool (smile)
Now I will go back and read it again..................
Jen I do chant (pray) that the people in his country does not follow their country's (questioned) legal president as we in America followed the lead of our (questioned) legal president, G.W. Bush in his save the people from an opressive government ans invade us as we did Iraq....and, yes "I" am serious...
we are not the only country whose citizens believe that their ________is behind them when they attack/ colonize other countrys...
and N-O... ("I" am not smiling)...EITHER...
Steve "I" do believe taht what you siad is related to the "bullying of our country. example,
The Native-American is a nation of their own so while we have been taught to turn against North Korea for taking Japanese children to 'socialize' them away from their culture, national unity...
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT OUR OWN GOVERNMENT USE TO DO TO THE nATIVE-AMERICAN AS RECENTLY AS 60-70 YEARS AGO...THEY TOOK NATIVE-AMERICAN CHILDREN AND TOOK THEM TO PLACES LIKE PENN. TO TEACH THE "INDIAN" OUT OF THEM...SO PLEASE DON'T WORRY STEVE AS THIS HAS NEVER SUCCEEDED AND IT NEVER WILL AS LONG AS THEIRE IS THE NEED TO PASS ON ONES CULTRUAL SURVIVAL tactics FROM GENERATION TO GENERATION AS IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN DONE...
again this is why it is so vital and so pressing that ETHNIC STUDY BE TAKEN OUT OF OUR PUBLIC EDUCATION SYSTEMS AND AS SOON AS POSSIABLE BECAUSE THESE ARE THE TRUTHS BEING TAUGH TO TOSE WHO CAME OUT ON MASS TO VOTE FOR C-H-A-N-G-E and change by way of truth and reality is as vital as having the average person of color to continue to turn on people of color no matter the : creed, or the gender...
OR...
as the slogan of the Teaparty is...
"WE MUST RETURN THIS COUNTRY BACK TO HOW IT USE TO BE"!!!!!!!!!!!!!...
BEFORE THIS BLACK PRESIDENT REALLY SUCCEEDS IN HELPING C-H-A-N-G-E IN PROPER EDUCATION OF THE NEXT AND THE NEXT AND THE NEXT GENERATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CLARK THANKS FOR THE SITE INFO.(SMILE)
I gather not too many of us know about or is concerned about both China and Russia has accused our federal government of allowing the state of Arizona to violate our human rights on mass of its innocent citizens!!!!!!!!!!!...again ("I" am not smiling)
Please take not of how Iran borders China and China's warining about anyone causing war refugees to spill over into it country will pay... WAKE UP AND DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH ABOUT OUR FIX WITH CHINA...
...JEN, PLEASE DON'T TAKE THIS AS A PERSONAL ATTACK...why does so many Americans believe that we are the onlyones who love our country and love it enought to protect it...
why don't we just try to respct that these people don't want to be made Christians no more thatn the Christian want to be made Muslmims...you know like the Africans, the Native-Americans...oh and "I" am sure the Germans were not happy when our president helped divid u their country...and Jen if you are the person I believ you to be you would not have beenhappy either and nor do you want to be made a Muslim...Am I right and you do believe in EQUALITY...
well here is one more thing about the real world...America would not be what it is today if it had not put religionon the back burner...the peoples in teh middle-east don't want to put their religion on the back burner...so we can not even start to even be able to tell ourselves tha tlie about them becoming a DEMOCRACY...we have this same problem in america each christmas each time the death pendlty comes u for going beofe the supreme court...the prayer issue is never ending...and we want to dictate to other countrys what they should be oing as best fo rthem...
remember our state of arizona...bvboe???sarah palin v the democrats and her peracher casting witches out of Palin's body,,,do they do tis in your church or do they teach taht voodoo, witch craft should not be taught in church...you agree that the kkk does not terrorize blacks and have been dong this for hundreds of years and how long have we been calling people with nonwhite skin terrorist...
WAKE UP....(SMILE)...BECAUSE WE RIGHT HERE IN AMERICAN THE AMERICAN CITIZENS ARE DOING OUR COUNTRY MORE DAMAGE THAT ANY OTHER COUNTRY COULD EVER TINK OF DOING SUCH DAMAGE AS WE IGNOR WE HAVE THE BIGGEST GUN KILLINGS, DRUG ADDICTS, DYING FOR s*xUAL TRAMINSIMITTED DESEASE AND EACHOTHE IN TEH NAME OF OUR GOD AND EVEYONE ELSE WhO STEPS INTO UR TURF...
W-A-K-E U-P AND THE TURTH WILL SET US ALL FREE...(SMILE)
I NOW LEAVE FOR GOOD AS "I" AM GETTING A LITTLE "N" UP...lol...
iN THE SAME VAIN OF TAHT PPHRASE "CLEAN UP YOUR OWN HOUSE BEFORE GOING TO CLEAN UP SOMEONE ELSES HOME" lets look at someting right here in this Christian nation...THE NATIVE AMERICANS WILL NOT BE LOOKED ON AS BEING ABLE TO DO RIGHT HERE IN AMERICA THE EXACT THING THAT JEN JUST DEFENDED THE RIGHTS OF THOSE IN ISRAEL WITH...A LOT LIKE PEOPLE ARE CALLED TERRORIST FOR LOVING THEIR MOTHER LAND, THEIR RELIGION AND THEIR HISTORICAL CULTURE...HOW AFRICANS WERE CALLED DOING SOMETHING AGAINST GOD AND NOW IT IS A POPULAR SPORT IN AMERICA RO HAVE WE NOT SEEN BUNGY JUMPING...
NOW FOR THE BIGGY...DO WE SEE ON THE MASS MEDIA ABOUT HOW THE NATIVE-AMERICANS ARE WINNING BACK THEIR LANDS BECAUSE THOSE TREATYS DID NOT ALLOW THE NATIVE-AMERICAN FEMALE TO SIGN THEM...YOU SEE THESE WOMEN HAD FULL VOING RIGHTS BACK THEN TAHT THE AMERICAN FEMAIL DID NOT HAVE UNTIL, WHEN?!? (nup)...
(NUP) ONLY BECAUSE SO MANY OF US HAVE BEEEN TAUGHT THAT TRUTH MUST NOT BE ACCEPTED AND BECAUSE IT COMES IN THE NAME OF GOD, THEN WE ALL KNOW HOW THESE ALMOST 10 YEARS ARE JUST AND RIGHT FOR THOSE WE ARE KILLING, MAMING AND DISPLACING AND WHY WE MUST DISTROY IRAN AS JUST AND RIGHT...
NOW WHY DIDN'T AMERICA RAISE A HAND TO HELP THE JEWS BEING KILLED BY HITLER...OH, HITLER WAS OUR FRIEND THAT IS UNTIL THEY TURNED ON ENGLAND...ANOTHER CHRISTIAN NATION IN TEH EYES OF AMERICA...
WAKE UP AND TRY TO START AT LEAST TRYING TO ACT LIKE WE ARE ALL GOD'S CHILDREN...BUT WE CAN NOT DO SOMETING LIKE THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN SO SUCCESSFULLY TAUGHT THIS IS NOT / CAN NOT BE DONE "IN THE NAME OF GOD"!!!
(SMILE)...(NUP AGAIN-LOL)
jEN, AS IT IS OFRTEN SEEN AS AN ATTACK ON A COUNTRY'S EMBASY IS AN ATTACK ON THAT NATION...WAS THIS PERSON YOU ARE CALLING IN NEED OF MENTAL HEALT NOT SMARE ENOUGH TO DECLARE WAR ON aMERICA AND THEY WERE HELPLESS TO GIVE HIM A DAY IN JAIL....so why all of this rage now, he has not declared war this time!!!!!
again truning facts into emotional name calling out burst does not cahnge the fact about what this man has already done to America so who is the one bluffing...He has already proved hisself to this government and do you believe this has anything to do with Iran having him as president the same way that Israel has the prime minister they just put back in charge...
WAKE UP...ANYONE WHO REFUSE TO BELIEVE THAT HIS MAN HAS ALREADY PROVED HE HAS NO FEAR OF AMMERICA AND AMERICA IS NO WHERE AS STRONG OR RESPECTED AS IT WAS BACK THEN NOR HAVE AS MANY FRIENDS...REMEMBER WHAT I SAID ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY REALLY GET TO KNOW AMERICA?!?...
WITH PRESIDENT OBAMA HE IS WINNING BACK FREINDS AND RESPECT BUT AGAIN PEACE DON'T MAKE MILLIONAIRES... (SMILE)
Me, I fully disagree, we as a country have friends until they learn that the ture nature of this country is to come into their country and make them second class citizens...anyone know what has saved China...its wall has kept it from being split up by other nations and when other countrys move in and make them second class citizens they would close their gates and kick them out...the last country to be kicked out was austria via great britian and since becmoing communist and not the #1 economic country they have nothing to worry about...we do as we can not pay off our debt to China...
call me a communist or what ever you like but this does not come from me this comes from FACTS...oh and when we begin to learn how these countrys say like Cuba got to be communist countrys and with America's help then maybe we will maybe want to start learning the truth...
BUT, i DOUBT IT AFTER ALL WE DO HAVE A BLACK PRESIDENT TO BLAME...PLEASE SEE SIEBRA'S BLOG ON THE GENERATION ZERO...FOR THE NEXT FAZE IN AMERICAN HISTORY... (SMILE)
steve, I agree with you...our government has used and abused Iran more and for much longer than tis and we either don't know or don't care the Sadddam got those gases used by him form our government for him to use on the citizens of Iran...
didn't see any / all of this coming with the blog now did you eventhough there is always two sides to every story. lol. (smile)
Thanks for the blog Jen as the more information we all have the better for us all.Maybe soon our media will even talk about it is Russia running this nuclear program in Iran with the money they get form China and China gets from all of tose dangeerous prodcuts from those former American middle-class jobs and maybe even we get to start adding these to our economy and foreign policies and not put the blame on one person like president Obama...
and, don't forget I voted for R.P in the first place and am only interested in truth and facts in any and all forms...(smile)
THESE TRUTHS CAN BE TAKEN AS RACIST IF ONE LIKES...
because the Jews own the media we don't get the resorces on how and why our president has told Israel our country will no longer be backing any more of their wars...smaretman and anyone else who has wisdom to be able to accept tthat China is where America use to be...but I have mainly said all of that to say this...has anyone watched the Fox cable news network today...
if not then please do because now they have become blod enough to say taht our president is a M-U-S-L-I-M and he is in Iran and not Israel as a F-R-I-E-N-D...
"I" guess now we are not after the terrorist in the middle-east, we are now there because our president is a Muslim and he is not going to declar war on a MUSLIM state....the Teaparty remember are in power now and not the Republicans...get the hint?!?
("I" am not smiling) I know this country it is a hater of different religions and wants a PURE MASTER RACE and is broke...anyone know how Hitler came into power with these same conditions??????????????????? rmemeber yesterday I told you all about that documentary that is blamieng the ^)s being allowed in America is why we have these problems today...the 60s was when we actually got the right to vote and how did we end up with a B-L-A-C-K MUSLIM PRESIDENT?????
I wonder who the nonAmerican born terrorist hate more the Blacks, Jews or the Muslims...another hint...the Jews have lots of money and political power.lol so I guess the joke is on us, huh? (not smiling)?!?
WAKE UP, AMERICA.....your chickens have really come home to roost...
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The following are excerpts from a public address delivered by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, which aired on the Iranian News Channel (IRINN), on June 16, 2010.
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http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0...