I Am Guilty of War When...

what...

I know... its deep, eh but if you think in terms of Brother Harry you'll get it quicker... Get it?

girl... did you see his blog?

Long day Juicy Fruit...

Yes I did Ms. Cynthia. He's quite a character, eh! Still shucking and jiving. Ha! Girl this AMORC is some funky stuff~~ I've never heard of this organization before this nite. They even have a non profit 501(c) status.

AMORC is a worldwide organization, established in the United States of America as a nonprofit 501(c)(3) public benefit corporation, with the specific and primary purpose of advancing the knowledge of its history, principles, and teachings for charitable, educational, and scientific purposes. It is financed mainly through fees paid by its members. Income is used by the organization to pay expenses, develop new programs, expand services, and carry out educational work.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Mysti...

I think Brother Earl should come back so he can shed some knowledge on this organization!

I can agree with that interpretation afterall it is our behavior that causes wars within and wars without, not so? Thanks Sister Irma.

Jen:

This is brilliant. It is IRONIC--written as if the DEVIL hmiself wrote it.

Did you ever read THE SCREWTAPE LETTERS, the Christian Classic by C.S. Lewis? This reminds me of it.

It is a HOW TO for promoting conflict. The point is...avoid doing these things!!!

And you and the world will be happier for it!

I like that... my premise is of logic and reasoning...
Superiority, Strive and greed, I believe becomes the primary issues...
Which in facts, beliefs, interpretations, communication lack of, and of course human nature instincs ....can attribute to wars...of infliction, self destruction ... heart .. mind... spirit...
________________ Im just rambling.... Still trying to peace it all together

Thank God we all don't have PANIC buttons....

Thanks Saint for the information and I find it quite interesting. I had no idea that this order existed. Now the saying "Big Brother Is Watching" really hits home for me, but I want to know who's monitoring Big Brother? Ha!

Sister Jen, the words themselves are something to think about, regardless of their source. Unless of course they are lies. But they don't sound like lies.

GOOD POST!!!

St. Jake, how is it kin means white people?

St. Jake, I believe in Jefferson's views on foreign policy. I disapprove our foreign policy extremely. But I cannot answer to it's relation to the creed of peace. Those words I take at face value, disassociated from who made them, which I will admit I know nothing about. Taking the words at face value, I will say our foreign policy does not conform to the creed of peace. That's the best I can do. There will always be the liars who do not practice what they preach. I will freely admit your superior research, as my plate is full.

I will continue to do my small part to bring peace on earth, goodwill toward man.

St. Jake, I offer this:

The word "democracy" (Greek: δημοκρατια) combines the elements demos (δημος, which means "people") and kratos (κρατος, which means "force" or "power").

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athenian_demo...

Yet your definition is perhaps closer to the reality of our present government,

St. Jake, our leaders will not abandon the word democracy. It is their way to pull the wool over our eyes.

Honestly the creed is applicable to present day and to think if every nation would adhere to it, we wouldn't be in the predictament we're in today. There would be peace and harmony inspite of our differing religious and political beliefs because of mutual respect of our fellow man.

peace!

I hear ya Saint, but could I interest you in the

+Nicene Creed+ ?

We believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all that is seen and unseen. We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, one in being with the Father.

Through Him all things were made. For us men and our salvation He came down from heaven: by the power of the Holy Spirit, He was born of the Virgin Mary , and became man. For our sake He was crucified under Pontius Pilate; He suffered, died, and was buried. On the third day He rose again in fulfillment of the scriptures: He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father.

He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end. We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son. With the Father and the Son, He is worshiped and glorified. He has spoken through the Prophets. We believe in one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church. We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. We look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come.

Amen.

Or what about the Apostle's Creed?

I believe in God, the Father almighty,
creator of heaven and earth.
I believe in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord.
He was conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit
and born of the Virgin Mary.
He suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died, and was buried.
He descended into hell.
On the third day he rose again.
He ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again to judge the living and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the holy catholic Church,
the communion of saints,
the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the body,
and the life everlasting.


or Perhaps the Jewish Creed /the Shmah or Shema Yisrael

"Hear O Israel, the Lord is our God, the Lord is One" (Shema Yisrael Adonai Eloheinu Adonai Echad.)


Ha! Just messing with you.

Jen... I too was once Catholic... I'll go with the Apostle's Creed........

Hello to All,

I have two questions. The first question is specifically for Ms. Jen. The second question is for all you Negroes.

Mrs. Jen, you said this, “its deep, eh but if you think in terms of Brother Harry you'll get it quicker... Get it?”
I do not promote nor do I advocate the fundamentals of Rosicrucian Order - Creed of Peace - Ralph M. Lewis - 1944.
Therefore, what do you mean when you said to Cynthia that if Cynthia thinks in terms of brother Harry Cynthia would get a quicker?
Mrs. Jen do you believe that my concept of sovereignty for Black Americans on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with orders to pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way has some similarities to the Rosicrucian Order?

This next question is general and for all you Negroes.
Why it is that you Negroes could only function on other people’s things whether these things are positive or negative? Why it is that you Negroes cannot be original to come up with something out of your own damn minds to influence you and proceed from there?

I am the only Negro that is telling the rest of you Negroes to rid yourselves of all outside influences and recognize that we are one people. We need to develop on our own way then fit ourselves into the bigger picture of the world that consists of other races of people. We could then contribute to the needs of the world as we ourselves advance the quality of our lives. All that you Negroes do because you all are hypnotized by the Rosicrucian Order, the Hebrew people and European gentiles, the Arabian people and their Prophet Mohammed etc. is absentmindedly praise these people. However, psychologically and inadvertently when you are spellbound by other people it is always at the expense of your inferiority

When will I see a Negro as me would think in terms of being original and that our only dependency as we move forward to encourage us is the God of creation? To be original we must recognize each other naked. When I say make it I mean unattached to anything. For instance, I must see Jake not as a Black Hebrew Israelites. I must see Mrs. Jen not as a follower of Christ (Christian). I must see Siebra and Jamal not as Arab Muslims followers of Prophet Mohammed.
I must see you all in your pure essence as Black Americans who are a new race of people born out of the ashes of slavery as I was. After understanding this fundamental element is only then could Jake, Mrs. Jen, Clark, Siebra, Jamal and I proceed to advance the quality of our lives because we are thinking original and not influence by the creeds, religion and values that belongs to other people. Am I making any sense?

Do you all think that God would come to set us free and give us sovereignty on the portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders and allow you ghettobilly Negroes to take other people’s creeds, religions and values into our sovereignty? Of course not knuckleheads! In that case, God could just as well allow you all Negroes to stay just where you are in your ignorance and stupidity. However, God is merciful and knows that we are ignorant and stupid as the children of Israel were. Consequentially, the first thing that God always do is give a prophet to the people. God gave the children of Israel Prophet Moses. God gave the ghettobilly Negroes Prophet Harry. Is it not possible that you all could see profounder singularities? Am I saying things stupid? Am I analytically reasoning with you ignorantly? Is there some sort of sense to what I am saying? Tell me what you think.

Did not Moses have these same problems with his knucklehead children of Israel people wanting to take the values, creeds and religion of Egypt into their Promised Land?

Why it is that I could see what you all find so difficult to see? Why it is that I could want for us what seems so difficult for you all to want for yourselves?

Anyway, everything did I say is going to happen!

Tell me what you think.

Tooshay Prophet Clark....

Hello Clark,

You asked this question, “If this is true then could it be the reason why you have no followers on BIA is because there are no “ghettobilly negroes” here?”

Clark, you are absolutely correct. In the higher atmosphere of truth and reality if you will, Black Americans are not ghettobilly Negroes. Ghettobilly Negroes if you will is the language understands that they are ignorant. Clark, I am between a rock and a hard place.
Take Cynthia and Faith Sloan for instance. I feel that if I talk to these types of personality with intelligence, respect and rationale as Jamal was trying to do these types of personality sees intelligence as stupidity, respect as weaknesses and rationale as being dumb. I have to mix it up. I have to be stern, honest and straightforward with Black Americans otherwise, they will take advantage of me and nothing will be accomplished. Likewise, if Moses were not stern with the children of Israel they would have taken advantage of Moses. In fact, the story tells of times that God destroyed some of Moses people that seek to destroy Moses, am I right.

I want from them the same as what Moses wanted from the children of Israel. It is going to happen. Moses was not the one orchestrated everything per se and of course, you know that. However, Moses was whom the people saw and interrelated and the same it is for Black Americans and me. Everything that I say you all know I am making superb sense. I have told you all over and over that, God is inspiring me constantly just as God was inspiring and guiding Moses constantly.

Again, Black America’s only permanent solution is that we desire to become a sovereign people on the portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders.

Therefore, if you cannot say that I am wrong, but yet seeking an opening to pounce on me to make me look like a fool or crazy then temporary you are a ghettobilly Negro.

Next, you made this evaluation, “most black Americans do not limit their understanding as to whom they are as beginning, historically, from slavery onward. If that were true then what you say makes some sense,”

I understand what you are saying. I know Black Americans are not analytically and rationally thinking people. I said this with certainty since Black Americans did not exist prior to slavery. Therefore, Black Americans believing that they are existed before slavery and that they came from Kings and Queens is absolutely incorrect and justifies the ignorance of Black Americans that I adamantly points out. Do you agree with me?

We are going to become one people as we steadily marches on towards our sovereignty on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders.

Our playfulness, ignorance, self-hatred etc. are all going to become things of the past. It just baffles me that I can see the good things that are going to happen for us, yet you all can take exceptions to these good things. What is that except that we are some ignorant people?

Tell me what you think.

@ Brother Harry,

I thought you said that you were going to leave us here at BIA alone? I knew you didn't mean it.

Brother Harry you may not be endorsing the R. Creed, but you are guilty of the following points~~
...I distort other's opinions, which differ from my own.
...I believe other people must think and live as I do.
...I imagine my kin and myself to be a privileged people.
...I believe a heritage entitles me to monopolize resources of nature.
...I believe the God I conceive is the one others must accept.
...I think that a land of a man's birth must necessarily be the place of his livelihood.

Hello Clark,

You said this, “I was not trying to make you look like a fool, but…two questions…I sincerely wanted to hear your response.”

Clark, you perhaps are different from most others here on BIA. For instance, think along with me. All genuine prophets such as Jesus were. His people were constantly trying to make Jesus and Moses look as fools. Black Americans are constantly trying to make me look as a fool.

I am told repeatedly to take my medication, yet no one is trumping the things that I say to be false or crazy. On the other hand, since I have to prove myself that I am Black America’s first genuine prophet I do not mind.

Tough scrutiny goes along with the territory. It was said that the toughest job in the world is being president of the United States. But, that is not true. I could truly tell you that being a genuine prophet is the hardest job in the world. Prophet Jonah would agree with me. Jesus would agree with me as well. Jesus being a prophet was more than he could have handled. Jesus could not stand the rejection, the heat and the tough fight his people mustered up against Jesus. Jesus turned his back on them and took his message to the Gentiles, which resulted in his crucifixion. In other words, Jesus was bigheaded. Jesus came to feel that it was all about Jesus. However, it was all about God and what God wants. Jesus did not show that he had as much faith in God as Moses showed and as I will show as time passes. By the time Jesus said the magic words in the Garden of Gethsemane, “not my will but your will be done” it was too late. God had withdrawn from Jesus. When you all pray you should ask God to forgive Jesus for his shallow minded self. Jesus is the worst prophet if you will that God anointed.

It is my inspiration that the prophet that raises Black Americans from a dead level to a living perpendicular will be the greatest prophet of all times. No people have been as mentally dead and as ignorant as Black Americans has. In addition, no people have ever suffered by the hands another people for as long as Black Americans has. Everything that I say is going to happen.

Next, you said this, “I do disagree with you on the second point and for good reason. I guess its a matter of opinion in terms of what one may think of themselves in view of the more recent history.”

No and still no Clark! It is not a matter of opinion, but a matter of facts. I would love that you all move away from opinions and state nothing but facts as often as you could. I am the example that you should follow. I stay away from opinions.

Now, I said to you that since Black Americans never existed before slavery you have no choice but to conclude that we are a new race that has emerged out of the ashes of slavery and I went on to explain how White Americans bred themselves with the African slave people during the times of slavery. You have no factual reasons to believe that Black Americans existed before slavery. Therefore, what I am telling you is the truth as well as new insight. Still today, Black Americans believes they are African-Americans. We neither are Africans nor are we Caucasians. We are a new race of people that has emerged out of the ashes of slavery. In fact, some of us think we are Muslims. How could that be when Muslims existed long before Black Americans came into existence?

There were no Black Americans living anywhere in Africa before slavery. In fact, there were no Black Americans living anywhere in the world prior to slavery. If there were one Black American living anywhere in the world before slavery tell me who was the person, but especially what the person’s name was since we know that White America named all their slaves after themselves. That is the reason your name Clark is English name. You know that what I am saying is true. Siebra had an English name and she felt that by changing it to Siebra Muhammad she could change history. Siebra embraced this ignorant rationale from Mr. Elijah Muhammad who was blind, deaf and dumb.

Tell me what you think.

Hello Ms. Jen,

Okay, listen deal with your misinterpret perception of me. At the least, I have something to go on, right.

You said this, “...I distort other's opinions, which differ from my own”
This is not true. The opinions that all of you have is wrong. For instance, you all believe that an African-American is an African of African parentage that became an American citizen. There is a community of Nigerian Africans living in Houston, Texas. They are perfect examples of what an African-American is.
On the other hand, a Black American is a person that is a new breed of people that has emerged out of the ashes of slavery because White people of British descent bred themselves with the African slave people over a period of 300 years that produced a new breed of people such as Black Americans.
Now, because I tell the truth about this ignorant opinions and show the facts that I am right you accuse me of distorting others opinions. This is absolute nonsense of you, Mrs. Jen to say.

You said this, “...I believe other people must think and live as I do.”.
This is not true! I believe that Black Americans and not other people should live as I do, if you will. In fact, Prophet Moses believe that the children of Israel should live as he do since the children of Israel was trying to be Egyptian people, which by all means was impossible. Likewise, Prophet Mohammed believe that the pagan Arabian people should live as he do since God rose him up to lead them or we from that paganism as I am trying to lead Black Americans away from their adapted concept of other people’s ways and into our own.
Therefore, I am not concerned about other people. I am concerned strictly about Black Americans as Moses was concerned strictly about the children of Israel. God did not send me to other people. I was risen up from among Black Americans and not other people. My task is not about other people. My task is strictly about Black Americans.

You said this, “...I imagine my kin and myself to be a privileged people.”
This is not true. Moses did not believe that the children of Israel were privileged people. Moses wanted his people to be sovereign free. Moses wanted his people out of bondage and slavery. Well, guess what? I want the same for Black Americans. I want that Black Americans become a sovereign free people on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders that we could pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way. That above all we would have the liberty to worship God in our own way.

You said this,”...I believe a heritage entitles me to monopolize resources of nature.”
This is not true. Black Americans has no heritage except slavery. Black Americans has no earthly resources since we are still a people that technically belong to White America. For this reason, God has answered my prayer that I have had since I was a child that Black Americans inherit a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders. Ms. Jen something is wrong with your ability to rationalize and understand the things that I say.

You said this, “...I believe the God I conceive is the one others must accept.”
This is not true! The God I conceive is the same God that Moses, Jesus, Mohammed etc. believe in, which is the God that created me and all that I see and all that I do not see. All that I know and all that I do not know. There is nothing comparable unto God. Mrs. Jen, I have said this repeatedly. Consequentially, you are not paying attention to the things I say.

You said this, “...I think that a land of a man's birth must necessarily be the place of his livelihood.”
This for the most part will be true when Black Americans inherit a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders. However, for the most part this is generally true that I believe.

FYI, I said that I would take a break for a while from BIA. If you were not so critical of me but more objective and honest you would understand what I say rather than understand what you want what I say to be.

Tell me what you think.

Harry you are full of doodoo. Tell me what you think.

You had to ask.... @ Steve....

@ Brother Steve,
Oh gosh that's too darn funny~~~ full of doodoo~~~ hey I've heard enough for the night!! ((LMBO))

Brother Harry
You are guilty of war! End of story.

JEN, i LIKE WHAT IS BEING SAID HERE...BUT WHAT WOULD YOU AND CYNTHIA SAY TO MEYSAYING THIS IS MORE LIKE DESCRIBING HUMAN BENAVIOR THAN WAR

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Thanks Clark...as we ahve gone from bing PROPERTY TO SLAVE TO NEGRO TO GHETTO BILLY NEGROES TO BAING ABLE TO PLACE A VALUE ON OUR OWN INDIVIDUAL SELVES EVEN TO OWNING BEING PROUD GHETTO BILLY NEGROES OR NOT AND NOT BE HUNG OR BE FORCED TO JOIN A HARRY MOVEMENT AS OUR ONLY HOPE / CHOICE....

MAY ONE DAY THE HARRY'S OF THE WORLD WILL BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE WHOLE IS ONLY AS GREAT AS ITS STRONGEST / SMALLEST PART...THIS IS CALLED U-N-I-T-Y...

(SMILE)

THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS A REPUBLIC...NOT A DEMOCRACY. ..example,

HOw many p-o-o-r, patroics do you see in Congress???...and sorry to say this...but "I" see far too much more against FREEDOMS THAN "I" SEE RELATED TO exactly why we would be lying if we say America is a DEMOCRAT NATION OR THAT WE WOULD EVEN BE WILLINg TO WORK FOR IT TO BE A COUNTRY OF E-Q-U-A-L-I-T-Y in the firs t place... (smile)

Lets see, when has there ever been PEACE THT WE KNOW OF OR THAT WE HAVE READ OF...

i BELIEVE THAERE HAS BEEN WAR EVERY SINCE THERE HAS BEEN AN IDEA OF I AM BETTER THAN YOU ARE...I CAN DO IT BETTER THAN YOU ARE...

THIS IS WHY "I" ACTUALLY BELIEVE OUR WAR IS ACTUALLY WITH OUR SELVES BECAUSE WE REFUSE TO SEE EACH OTHER AS EVEN OUR OWN EQUAL MUCH LESS BETTER THEN THE "i"...

JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ON , AS RELEATED TO THE WORD OR THE NEED FOR A WORD LIKE W-A-R....AND, I SAY THIS BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THAT MANKIND IS THE ONLY LIVING THING THAT KILLS FOR : SPORT, SKIN COLOR, RELIGION, MONEY, LOVE, HATE, BECAUSE THE SUN IS SHINING, BECAUSE THE SUN IS NOT SHINING, JUST BECAUSE,ECT....

WAR IS A KILLING SPORT OF WHO WINS AND WHO LOOSES, CORRECT ?!? (NUP)

...WHAT REALLY PISS ME OFF IS HERE WE RUN AROUND TALKING ABOUT ABORTION...NOT KILLING THE CHILD IN THE MOTHER'S WOMB AND HOW MANY HAVE THIS GREAT COUNTRY KILLED IN SIDE THE MOTHER IN THESE WHAT AMOUNT TO 17 YEARS OF NON STOP WARS IN TEH MIDDLE-EAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BUT, OH, THAT IS ALRIGHT BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE A DEMOCRACY LIKE WE DO AND I WILL NOT EVEN SAY THE REST OF THE REASONS THIS IS JUST FINE TO BE DOING THESE THINGS...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (NUP, BUT i DO FACE THE TRUTH AND THE REALITY OF ALL OF THIS)