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What Are Your Thoughts Re: Is the Black American Church Responsible for Keeping Some Black Women Single?

Jen Fad · Friday, August 13th 2010 at 10:27PM · 711 views
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Got to look good in the Lord's house," she says as she spritzes her neck with White Diamonds perfume and exits her black Lincoln Town Car

Davis, 46, of Union City, Georgia, has attended African Methodist Episcopal churches since before she could crawl. She sits proudly in the pew every Sunday for service and is among the first to arrive for bible study each Wednesday.

She moves swiftly, with confidence, a weathered Bible clutched in her right hand, the day's passages dog-eared and highlighted. She's the type of woman who can recite scriptures with ease, her love of faith evident in her speech.

"Every day is a blessed day for me," she says. "Jesus is the No. 1 man in my life and any man who wants me must seek me through Him."

The unmarried Georgia native is a committed follower of the Christian faith, striving to live and breathe the gospel in her daily life. Yet, according to relationship advice columnist Deborrah Cooper, it is this devout style of belief and attachment to the black church that is keeping black women like Davis -- single and lonely.

Clinging to the gospel

Cooper, a writer for the San Francisco Examiner, recently made claims on her blog SurvivingDating.com that predominantly black protestant churches, such as African Methodists, Pentecostal, and certain denominations of Evangelical and Baptist churches are the main reason black women are single. Cooper, who is black and says she is not strictly religious, argues that rigid beliefs constructed by the black church are blinding black women in their search for love.

In raising the issue, Cooper ignited a public conversation about a topic that is increasingly getting attention in the black community and beyond. Oprah Winfrey, among others, recently hosted a show about single black women and relationships after a Yale University study found that 42 percent of African-American women in the United States were unmarried.

Big Miller Grove Missionary Baptist Church, a predominately African-American Baptist church in Atlanta, is holding a seminar on the question of faith's role in marital status on August 20.

"Black women are interpreting the scriptures too literally. They want a man to which they are 'equally yoked' -- a man that goes to church five times a week and every Sunday just like they do," Cooper said in a recent interview.

"If they meet a black man that is not in church, they are automatically eliminated as a potential suitor. This is just limiting their dating pool."

The traditional structure and dynamics of black churches, mostly led by black men, convey submissive attitudes to women, Cooper says, encouraging them to be patient -- instead of getting up and going after what they want.

Nearly ninety percent of African-Americans express "certain belief in God" and 55 percent say they "interpret scripture literally," according to the 2009 Pew Research Center study "A Religious Portrait of African-Americans."

Dr. Boyce Watkins, a professor at Syracuse University and advocate for African-American issues, responded to Cooper's article online. Though he applauded Cooper's courage to voice her opinion , he agreed -- and disagreed -- with her.

"I don't think the church keeps black women single," Watkins says. "But I do agree that some black churches teach women that they must only date a man that goes to church regularly."

Watkins, who is African-American and whose father is a Southern Baptist minister, described his interactions with southern women who are devout churchgoers. "I am a male and I know that I will treat a woman well, but I have been rejected many times because I don't thump a bible with me everywhere that I go."

All in the numbers

One of biggest reasons black women are single, Cooper says, is because of a lack of black men in the church. According to the PEW study, "African-American men are significantly more likely than women to be unaffiliated with any religion (16 percent vs. 9 percent). Nearly one-in-five men say they have no formal religious affiliation."

Watkins believes the social structure of the church keeps black men from attending. "Those appealing, high-testosterone guys have a hard time getting into the 'Follow the leader, give me your money, and listen to what I have to say' attitude."

"Many of us have a difficult time submitting to the pastor who is just another man."

The male pastor, Cooper says, is the "alpha male" for many black women. Over-reverence for the pastor - or any religious figure for that matter - creates barriers for the black man, she says, because he feels like he must compete for the No. 1 spot in a black woman's heart.

"It doesn't make you more attractive if your life is filled with these 'other' men," Cooper says. "If they feel like they have to compete, you are not going to be interesting because you're not feeding his ego in the way it needs to be fed."

Mark K. Forston, son of a black preacher in Forest Park, Georgia, says some black women "put their pastor on this pedestal and have a large amount of faith in him because he is a living source of salvation."

Sometimes women even focus their romantic feelings on the pastor, says Forston. "Regardless if he's married or not, sometimes human desires will transcend beyond certain parameters and that's dangerous territory. Pastors are humans just like anybody else."

The Rev. Renita J. Weems, a bible scholar who holds a degree in theology from Princeton, strongly disagrees with Cooper about why many black women remain single and says she is reinforcing one message: "It's the black woman's fault."

"To claim that women are sitting in their chair getting heated about watching their preacher strut across the pulpit is illogical," Weems says. "The black church is not a Sunday morning s*x drama."

Weems, who is African-American and has written several books on women's spirituality, has her own criticisms of the black church. The literal interpretation of certain scriptures can lead to subjugating women, Weems says. However, positive scripture messages, about love and justice, do exist and can be used to empower women rather than keep them "single and lonely."

Weems says Cooper fails to examine deeper threads. "What the black church does and what religion does is helps you create core values for your life and allows you to see what you appreciate in others.

"The reason why black women who go to black churches are not married is because they are looking for certain values in a man," Weems says. "It is not the church that keeps them single, but the simple fact that good values are lacking in some of our men."

Choose or lose the church

Cooper says her goal is to empower black women. If their strategy for meeting men is failing, Cooper offers two suggestions: Find another church or leave-and go where the boys go: tailgates, bars and clubs.

"Black women need to open their eyes. You want to know the reason why the black man isn't in church? Because he left church to go to the Sunday football game," Cooper says. "Going to these sites is discouraged in the black church because these places are seen as places where 'sin dwells.' But if women are compassionate, as the bible preaches they should be, then they need to be more open about the men they choose to date and where they might meet them."

"I'm not against religion, or against the church, I'm against women limiting their choices and putting themselves in a box because they do what their church tells them to do," Cooper says.

Weems disagrees. "Telling black women that they should spend their two hours on Sunday elsewhere and drive them away to go to the bar to find a date is not helpful to our communities."

"Black women are the backbones of their community and without them a lot of charitable work would not get done, social justice on the ground would be diminished and outreach to poor people would be severed."

Patty Davis, the long time churchgoer in Georgia, says all the arguments over what the church preaches miss the point. What truly matters, she says, are women's motives.

"The real question is: What are you coming to church for?" she says. "To feed your spirit? Or your carnal desires?"

The church's effect on the romantic lives of black women cannot be gleaned from a mathematical equation or a select bible passage, Davis says.

"It is a woman's own actions and decisions that will determine the outcome of her love life, not the church's," Davis says. "Because the last time I checked, the church ain't no dating service."

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Jen Fad Saturday, August 14th 2010 at 2:33PM

Saint Jake,
I can not speak for all the Black churches, but the one I attended in South Carolina was really off as far as I'm concerned when it came to the policy/doctrine/teaching on marriage. Many women were encouraged thru messages from the pulpit and via other church mbrs to let Jesus be their husbands until the right man came to our church for them. I said how crazy is that out of all the churches in the south!

I said to myself after going to a singles meeting~~ this church ~~ has only 2 eligible bachelors out of say 30 eligible females. After surveying the scene and deciding to just enjoy the bible studies and worship services I just decided to open my mind and heart to whatever the Holy Spirit led me to do~~ going on outings and doing things other than just going to church only.

I think women in the church make themselves miserable when they adhere to some unrealistic standards for potential suitors ~~standards that Jesus Himself couldn't meet and that the women haven't even perfected in their own lives

Cynthia Merrill Artis Saturday, August 14th 2010 at 2:49PM

Jen... AWESOME topic!!! So do you really want MY thoughts? uumm!

Cynthia Merrill Artis Saturday, August 14th 2010 at 2:50PM

I agree with Saint.... I'll wait to comment....

Jen Fad Saturday, August 14th 2010 at 3:06PM

Of course I not only want your comments, but I need to hear from You Ms. Cynthia!

Cynthia Merrill Artis Saturday, August 14th 2010 at 3:13PM

what.... what I do Juicy...

Siebra Muhammad Saturday, August 14th 2010 at 3:22PM

I read this article by Ms. Cooper on Essence.com and found most of it to be rather disturbing. This article does a very good job in its attempt to obscure and confuse the real issues behind black women being single. As for me, I'm neither for or against marriage; I'm not rushing. If it happens, it happens, if it don't, it don't.

Now as a Muslim, I am not here to defend Christianity, but I know that most of us came from a Christian background, and have some of its influences still in us. But if the Black church is INDEED keeping Black women single (according to Ms. Cooper's article) let's consider this: Is the Black American church the reason Oprah, one of the Richest Black Women in America, never married? Yeah I know, she goes to Rev. Wright's church, but you know as well as myself and everyone else who has followed her career, her issues with marriage mainly stem from a troubled childhood.

Secondly, I find that most Christian ministers/preachers of today encourage black women to marry, but they themselves don't have a spouse. What's up with that? And they wonder why we have so many unwed pregnancies, single mothers, and to add insult to injury, the males who father the children, not taking care of them.

Jen Fad Saturday, August 14th 2010 at 5:26PM

@ Sister Siebra,

[If it happens, it happens, if it don't, it don't.]

How is your statement any different from the women who say what Ms. Copper has stated: [The traditional structure and dynamics of black churches, mostly led by black men, convey submissive attitudes to women, Cooper says, encouraging them to be patient -- instead of getting up and going after what they want.]


@ Brother Clark,
I beg to differ with you, because of my own person church experience since it depends on the type of leader and the church dynamics. I take it that your church experience is different because you are #1 a man and your leader has a nice personality and perhaps some formal education outside of the church.

The pastor I had was just a high school grad who had this super alpha male ego where he seemed to dictate what everyone from the few men to the children did and did not do. I can count on my hand the number of men that were in that assembly~~~ 10 to 15 mostly married.

My ex pastor was such a dictator who didn't want any challenges to what he was preaching and infact anyone he hand picked had to preach along the lines of things he had already taught. When I was getting married all pandemonium broke loose because I was a tithe paying mbr (single and had plenty of money) so he did his best to discourage me from leaving even telling my fiance' to reconsider taking me from his church and staying in his church to telling him that I was too stronged willed. What?!

So it does depend on the church, but for the most part the leader dictates what goes on in alot of these churches and the general message to the women is to be seen and not heard. That's why we still have Black churches that don't believe in women preachers. The women in these churches have to take a passive role waiting for men of God to come and find them. How the men going to find them if there aren't enough men coming to church?

Just my two cents worth.

Siebra Muhammad Saturday, August 14th 2010 at 6:58PM

All I'm saying this, as someone who has never been married nor has never had any biological children, when it comes to affairs such as this, I, Siebra, and not the church or mosque or any other house of worship, encourage myself to remain patient. At the age of 19 I was engaged to a non-Muslim man (which was my choice) he chose to indulge more into the "player" lifestyle and we split up for that reason.

People ask me all the time, "Why haven't someone as beautiful and intelligent as you never married." My single life has nothing to do with the church.

The reason I'm still single is because I am looking for someone who is honest, respectable, who I can be open with in spirituality and world affairs and can handle me in doing the right thing. Whether it's in a house of worship, a community college, or a bookstore, nothing is more important to you than your own happiness.

Cynthia Merrill Artis Saturday, August 14th 2010 at 10:01PM

Well I have a great deal of issues... My church has a similar doctrine... wait on the Lord... He'll send you a man... Equally yoked....

Equally yoked in my opinion is broad... not just religious based... Equally yoke... means being on accord when it comes to life... child rearing... finances... communication.. spiritiually connected... morales and values in synch. Having a sound understand and have similar/equal/same views on all aspects of life.

Right here... This writer says it best for me:::::
Mark K. Forston, son of a black preacher in Forest Park, Georgia, says some black women "put their pastor on this pedestal and have a large amount of faith in him because he is a living source of salvation."

The Black Church does have "some" men and women mixed up.... I see more s*x and drama in the church... creatures of habit...

Single deacons.... OMG!!

It's okay to live a spiritually fulfilled life... Worship and mix among the saints... BUT a paster is merely a teacher... He's Human and He's a man.... NO.. Im single by choice... and no church doctrine is going to change that...

Jen Fad Saturday, August 14th 2010 at 10:07PM

[That said, I have been to some churches where the pastor is a Svengali-like figure who exerts a psychological hold on the women. He's a daddy figure and tends to be more pimp than pastor. Such men may never have set foot in divinity school but they know "game" and how to run it, and these men are masters at their art.]


Lol! You just hit a home run and I decided that I wouldn't attend any church where the pastor hadn't had some type of formal education or who hadn't been to divinity or seminary of some sort.

@ Sister Siebra
I can respect what you have said. Thanks for clarifying your view.

Siebra Muhammad Sunday, August 15th 2010 at 2:06PM

Likewise Sister

Harry Watley Sunday, August 15th 2010 at 5:20PM

Hello to All,

It seems to me that the Christian religion as well as the public school system is foes rather than friends to Black Americans, am I right based upon the sentiments of the viewers to this blog!

Would you all not well come a change?

It seems to me that everything I have been saying is slowly bearing fruits. I said that neither Christianity nor Islam is our religion. Our religion is LIFE and as soon as you all take a genuinely and sincere interest in the things I say our religion will begin to develop.

What say you?

Siebra Muhammad Sunday, August 15th 2010 at 5:26PM

NO!

Harry Watley Sunday, August 15th 2010 at 6:51PM

Hello Siebra,

Explain why you said no!

Siebra Muhammad Sunday, August 15th 2010 at 7:02PM

The things that you post do not add up, and if I were you I would be ashamed to write it...example, why do you waste time attacking Obama when he is not on this site to defend himself?

Cynthia Merrill Artis Sunday, August 15th 2010 at 9:21PM

Harry is such a distraction.... dang!

Jen Fad Sunday, August 15th 2010 at 10:00PM

@ Sister Cynthia
Lol~~~ I told him to stay off my blogs! Should I delete him or just ignore him?

Brother Clark
You said it... charlatan ... !

jamal Abraham Sunday, August 15th 2010 at 10:23PM

Amazingly, a Pastor or Preacher tainted for adultery or fornication(And Many are) prefers single female Christian members. It is easier for him to play around on a single Christian member than a married one. Could there be a connection.....Umm, Umm, Umm

Cynthia Merrill Artis Sunday, August 15th 2010 at 10:37PM

Hey JJ... um I think we need a vote.....
Who says yes????
Who says no???

Cynthia Merrill Artis Monday, August 16th 2010 at 1:59AM

David... LOL

Jen Fad Tuesday, August 17th 2010 at 5:48PM

Say it LOUD Brother David~~ You're a Black man who takes Care of Business~

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