RE: TO ALL OF THE BIA I LOVE THE MOTHER OF BIA BLOGS AND EACH ONE WHO HAVE READ THEM / COMMENTED ON THESE BLOG

ROBINSON IRMA · Sunday, September 19th 2010 at 9:42PM · 492 views

S...THIS IS ABULLETIN BOARD FOR COMMENTS ON HOW HAVE THESE POSTINGS AFFECTED-EFFECTED / HAVE NOT...I ASK MY BIA FAMILY BECAUSE OF THE FOLLOWINGS OF MANY EXPECTATIONS OF US LIVING IN A 'CHRISTIAN NATION'...HAS AND STILL DO BELIEVE THAT "I" AM WRONG AND AM NOT A DECENT PERSON THEREFORE "I" AM DESTINED TO GO STRAIGHT TO HELL... AND THE REASONS FOR THIS IS...I HAVE TWO BEAUTIFUL DAUGHTERS WHO ARE GOING TO LEAVE THIS EARTH A BETTER PLACE THAN THEY FOUND IT, BUT I AM GOING TO GO TO HELL IN MAY PEOPLE'S EYE SITE, BECAUSE "I" REFUSE TO DO THEIR BIDDINGS AND LIVE MY LIFE ACCORDING TO THEIR ( COUNTLESS PERSONAL )WISHES/ DEMANDS...

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Thomasena Martin-Johnson Sunday, September 19th 2010 at 10:12PM

Where is hell anyway?

Adam Fate Sunday, September 19th 2010 at 10:38PM

Hell is irrational, and is not even worthy of dispute. Yet it chains the minds of many. Reincarnation, as any proposal as to what happens at death, can never be proven, but it fits with the cyclic nature of being. Just as there has not been one Big Bang, but an infinite number.

Harry Watley Monday, September 20th 2010 at 12:37AM

Greetings,

To Saint Jake,

How does the Bible justifies re-generation or reincarnation? Reincarnation or regeneration is a matter of science. For instance, science has shown how lizards regenerate or grows a new tale after being attacked. All that you are doing is using the Bible which is not a book of science to justify human regeneration is indicative of your ignorance. Scientifically speaking, you need to show that humans are reincarnated or else you become as nutty as the people in India that believe in reincarnation. The people in India believe that rats are there re incarnated relatives.

Today humanity lives in what we call modern days as opposed to the dark ages when ignorance was rampant such as superstitions and unscientific beliefs as reincarnation or regeneration.

So, to make a long story short please scientifically explain how the Bible proves reincarnation. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that anyone was reincarnated, am I right.

To Ms. Thomasina,

You asked, �Where is hell anyway?� Hell is an expression rather than a place. Hell is an expression to be interpreted as unpleasant conditions and circumstances.

To Adam,

You said, �Hell is irrational,� The expression Hell, is not irrational. Since hell is an expression of unpleasant conditions and circumstances then hell is not irrational. For instance, Black Americans has always lived in hell in White America since Black Americans has so many complaints such as an equal justice and racism from the days of slavery to the present day of White America�s inhumanity to Black Americans. Am I making any sense?

In comparison and contrast I have often, times said that Black Americans are the same as the children of Israel were in bondage while in Egypt. Black America�s only permanent solution is that Black Americans must desire to become a sovereign people on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to worship God, pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way.

What say any of you?

Harry Watley Monday, September 20th 2010 at 1:40AM

Hello to All,

To Saint Jake,

You said this, �You figure it out, okay�� This sarcastic comment is indicative of your stupidity and ignorance. No! It is not for me to figure out your stupidity and ignorance since you are the one that stands on reincarnation or regeneration and cannot scientifically substantiate such an ignorant stand!

You are so ignorant that since you cannot substantiate this bizarre concept you do not have to sense to let it go. Anything that I cannot substantiate I am compelled to let it go and that is because I am wise.

Am I making any sense with you?

Again, show that someone in the Bible or in life was reincarnated, knucklehead! If you cannot rationally, feasibly and intelligently show human reincarnation then you are a damned fool to hold on to such a concept.

To Irma,

Yes! I have heard the expression d�j� vu or I have been here or seen this before. However, this feeling or expression is not reincarnation or regeneration. It is a matter of remembrance. In real life the fact remains is that, either you have been there before or you have not.

You all are not rationally able to walk your way through life and that is why I constantly remind us that we are some very ignorant people. However, things are going to change for us, Black Americans.

I do not want to be arguing with any of you. I want you all too present facts or a feasible explanation based on multiples of facts to substantiate what she was saying. I cannot stand ignorance and stupidity.

When I speak, I gave facts and feasible explanation. Therefore, I am asking for the same thing that I give. A fair exchange is not a robbery.

Tell me what you think.

Adam Fate Monday, September 20th 2010 at 9:20AM

Irma,

I think the subject of hell sidetracked me. But let me say something about deja vu first, as I think it ties in. I've never met anyone who has not experienced it, have you? It appears to be universal, but in any event you, I, and Harry have each experienced it. I have wondered if it is, as Harry says, a memory that we don't recognize as a memory. But I am convinced that isn't what it is.

It might be that the Universe perpetually repeats itself. What I mean is that Science theorizes a Big Bang, and the Universe is in the process of expanding. We also know about Black Holes. It could be that when the Universe is done expanding, it then contracts back into that infinitesimal point, that becomes the next Big Bang, and the Universe repeats itself exactly, including an exact repetition of our lives. This doesn't seem very fair, as those who have had miserable lives would be predestined to an infinite number of repetitions of their misery. But maybe the Universe doesn't care about fair.

What I really think it is, is a reminder that we do NOT have all the answers. That should be obvious, as we have NO KNOWLEDGE of where we came from or where we are going. We don't understand our own BRAINS, or EGO if you will. Deja vu is an experience that can pop up at any moment, to remind us there is a mystery that is beyond what our EGO wants to admit. The EGO wants to have all the answers. Thus we have Deists (including those that believe in reincarnation), Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Black Hebrews, and even Independent Prophets. If we put aside EGO, we can see that we are all just looking for answers, and that any, some, none of our beliefs may be true, or all have some, but not the whole truth. I apply this even to the Independent Prophet.

Getting back to your question, I will speak for myself as a Father. I'm sure your experience as a Mother is similar, as I see on these pages that you have HEART. HEART is what guides us to good, INTELLECT may or may not. I chose not to raise my children in any particular religious thought. They were always made aware of what my thought was, but I gave them the respect as INDIVIDUALS, that they were not to follow my thought just because I was the Father and they the Children. But they did learn the basics from me, first to have HEART, and second, to keep an OPEN MIND. Did I make mistakes? Surely. Did my mistakes result in harm, or benefit to them? I don't know the answer for them, any more than I know it for myself. It is what it is.

But I can tell you, their love for each other, for me, and for their Mother, and my love for them, is immeasurable. My son David became a Born Again Christian, after he met his future wife. He is happy, and doing well, and that is all that matters to me. My son James seems to be a Deist, the others I really don't know. But I do know they all have HEART. And I am still a Father, and still teaching. So teach Irma, we are listening, and the beneficiaries of your wisdom, as I have no doubt your children continue to be also.

Adam Fate Monday, September 20th 2010 at 1:51PM

Ah, that is the gist of it isn't it? When we are gone, they will still be here.

Thomasena Martin-Johnson Monday, September 20th 2010 at 2:41PM

What is going on with the other parts of the brain that we don't use? It seems to me that somebody could be looking into that instead of bashing everybody who doesn't believe the way they do. So who has the right to infringe on another's free will. It seems to me, that some of us spout religious principles then trample some of them in the next sentence.

The God I know is not vengeful or mean but is loving and all the rest in some MAN"S interruptation of what somebody else said that GOD said and so we fight about what was meant about something that we really don't know happened in the first place. We are all believing what we do based on FAITH. Why not let each man/woman have his/her faith undisturbed?

I learn from all of my experiences and all whom I meet. That is why I have everybodies' bible/book in my house and in some different languages, including the Morman's book whatever it is called. If there are others, I want then too.

Adam, you and Irma know I agree with you most if not all of t he time. That is not to say I don't agree with others. i learn a lot from all of you.

Thomasena Martin-Johnson Monday, September 20th 2010 at 4:06PM

There is difference between white people and white supremist. Do they identify themselves as white and what does that mean? Do they follow the edits of the so called majority? Which isn't the majority at all if they told the truth.

Adam Fate Tuesday, September 21st 2010 at 9:11AM

It was very clever of CNBC to make us watch 22 commercials wasn't it?

Thomasena Martin-Johnson Wednesday, September 22nd 2010 at 1:26PM

Irma,

Whether you consider yourself christian or not, from what I can gather from your comments, you do practice what "christians" say are christian beliefs. You follow many of Christ's teaching and SOME who profess to be christian do not. So I say to you, Live your life so that you can sleep at night. It would be really funny if, on that 'great getting Up morning', you will be found behind the "pearlie Gates' looking out and some so called 'Christins' are on the outside looking in.

Since Buddist are not frequently found in my community even though there is a buddist temple about five miles from me, on my side of town, I know very little about the beliefs. I do know that the few buddist I know, seem to have a peace about them that some other religist do not.
I have some representations of budda in my home and I have information that states that he was of color. More truth. More proof the we are intertwined on many levels. It is also proof that from the beginning, our ancestors were the origninators of what most people on the planet believe to be TRUTH in all cultures. More proof that we are basically connected on the deepest and most important level.

How can we not be proud.

Thomasena Martin-Johnson Wednesday, September 22nd 2010 at 1:30PM

Irma,

I would be interested in commentary on" What ifs". I wish all of us on BIA did a what "if". That could be fun and a lot of food for thought.

Siebra Muhammad Wednesday, September 22nd 2010 at 1:42PM

Mom, I think hell is on earth and it's a cold place to be in...after all, our electric and gas bills do tend to be high during the winter months...LOL

Siebra Muhammad Wednesday, September 22nd 2010 at 1:43PM

Thomasena, that sounds like a good idea!

Siebra Muhammad Wednesday, September 22nd 2010 at 1:46PM

HELL EXPLAINED BY A CHEMISTRY STUDENT

The following is an actual question given on University of Arizona chemistry mid- term.

The answer by one student was so 'profound' that the professor shared it with colleagues, via the Internet, which is, of course, why we now have the pleasure of enjoying it as well:

Bonus Question: Is Hell exothermic (gives off heat) or endothermic (absorbs heat)?

Most of the students wrote proofs of their beliefs using Boyle's Law (gas cools when it expands and heats when it is compressed) or some variant.

One student, however, wrote the following:

First, we need to know how the mass of Hell is changing in time. So we need to know the rate at which souls are moving into Hell and the rate at which they are leaving. I think that we can safely assume that once a soul gets to Hell, it will not leave. There fore, no souls are leaving. As for how many souls are entering Hell, let's look at the different religions that exist in the world today.

Most of these religions state that if you are not a member of their religion, you will go to Hell. Since there is more than one of these religions and since people do not belong to more than one religion, we can project that all souls go to Hell. With birth and death rates as they are, we can expect the number of souls in Hell to increase exponentially. Now, we look at the rate of change of the volume in Hell because Boyle's Law states that in order for the temperature and pressure in Hell to stay the same, the volume of Hell has to expand proportionately as souls are added.

This gives two possibilities:

1. If Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter Hell, then the temperature and pressure in Hell will increase until all Hell breaks loose.

2. If Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in Hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until Hell freezes over.

So which is it?

If we accept the postulate given to me by Teresa during my Freshman year that, 'It will be a cold day in Hell before I sleep with you,' and take into account the fact that I slept with her last night, then number two must be true, and thus I am sure that Hell is exothermic and has already frozen over. The corollary of this theory is that since Hell has frozen over, it follows that it is not accepting any more souls and is therefore, extinct...... .....leaving only Heaven, thereby proving the existence of a divine being which explains why, last night, Teresa kept shouting

'Oh My God.'

...THIS STUDENT RECEIVED AN A+.

Thomasena Martin-Johnson Wednesday, September 22nd 2010 at 3:24PM

Interesting hypothesis.