British police know location of WikiLeaks' founder Julian Assange

Yes Brotha Clark. Apart from the s*xual molestation charges, he's put too many people lives in jeopardy all in the pursuit of notoriety.

The rape charge sounds bogus. That's not what they want him for. And personally I think he's in the business of saving lives.

@Brotha Steve, the rape and molestation charges were brought against him 8 months ago, before wikileaks was a household name, by 2 of his employees. Why would that be bogus to you. The government doesn’t need bogus charges against this guys. He’s already broken the law twofold.
@Sista Irma, I understand you completely, but the wikileaks is in no way helping us. British laws govern that company. Wikileaks is not helping us. It is stirring up trouble and could ignite wars between peaceful countries. Its putting peoples lives at risk by exposing contacts in foreign countries. This man is disloyal to his country and the amendment states (Im not sure of the wording, but I know it states the exemptions being when said person presents a clear and present danger or obstructs justice or interferes with the running of government, and it is clear that this man means no good to our country.)
We have to hold our country accountable for those leaks, but they were not on the United States soil when this information was passed, but how was this indiviual able to smuggle this information out. I don't know if all of this stuff is going to stick. But I hope they put him in Guantanamo with the rest of the terrorists.

Sister Anita, is that place still open? Doesn't that scare you? It does me.

And now WikiLeaks has been shutdown by the government. Which government I will leave you to guess, but which one has the greatest stake, and the capability to do this? Trust me though, this is a government action, Denial of Service attack on a massive scale:

Dec 3, 2010 2:00 am
WikiLeaks.org Downed by Domain Hosting Service

By Dan Nystedt and Martyn Williams, IDG News

...WikiLeaks' main website could not be accessed on Friday through its WikiLeaks.org domain name after a subsidiary of Dynamic Network Services terminated its domain name service.

Dynamic Network Services' subsidiary, EveryDNS.net, terminated the WikiLeaks.org domain name because repeated DDOS (Distributed Denial of Service) attacks against WikiLeaks "have, and future attacks would, threaten the stability of the EveryDNS.net infrastructure, which enables access to almost 500,000 other websites," it said on its website.

EveryDNS.net said it notified WikiLeaks by email, Twitter and the chat function available through the WikiLeaks.org website that its domain name service would be terminated in 24-hours. That 24-hour period ended Dec. 2 at 10 p.m. Eastern Standard Time in the U.S.

"Any downtime of the Wikileaks.org website has resulted from its failure to use another hosted DNS service provider," EveryDNS.net said.

WikiLeaks put out a note on Twitter saying, "WikiLeaks,org domain killed by U.S. EveryDNS.net after claimed mass attacks," and implored supporters to keep WikiLeaks strong with continued donations.

The WikiLeaks comment appeared at odds with an earlier WikiLeaks Twitter post saying that DDOS attacks against its servers reached 10 Gigabits per second on Nov. 30. Amazon Web Services also confirmed the DDOS attacks, saying in a blog posting that, "There were indeed large-scale DDOS attacks, but they were successfully defended against."

The domain name service termination comes just days after Amazon Web Services stopped hosting WikiLeaks on its servers for breaking user rules saying that websites must use their own content and not carry data that might injure others. The U.S. Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, chaired by Senator Joe Lieberman, had also asked Amazon to stop hosting the controversial website.

WikiLeaks has come under fire for publishing classified U.S. documents, including videos and documents from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan as well as sensitive cables sent between U.S. embassies and the U.S. State Department. WikiLeaks continues to post the cables.

Dynamic Network Services is a U.S. company based in Manchester, New Hampshire. Its EveryDNS.net subsidiary said all of its systems were functioning normally.

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/arti...

http://www.everydns.com/

How it works Irma is like this. When you go to a website, in this case wikileaks.com, the first thing that is done in the Internet is to translate that name to a number, an IP address. The IP address is the physical location of the computer that has the website data on it. This translation from name to IP address is performed by various dedicated computers in the network. So what they did is generate a massive amount of requests to these network computers to do the translation from name to IP address. So many simultaneous requests that they overload the capacity of the network computers. This results in a denial of service. The U.S. government has the capability and the will to generate these massive numbers of requests. It is called Distributed Denial of Service because the requests are coming from all over the country, and maybe from outside the country as well.

WikiLeaks is still down. The problem now is they need to find a new DNS provider, but every potential provider knows they will get hit with these same Denial of Service attacks, just as Amazon did and EveryDNS did. These attacks disrupt service provided by their business to other customers and create an additional burden on them to protect from such attacks. It is not so much a decision of doing what Lieberman wants, it is more a business decision. The Government is hitting them where it hurts, their profits.

They government has a problem because there are not enough security professionals available. I am a security professional, but do I want to work for such a government as we have? Would it be the moral thing to do?

@Sista Irma, Im listening. Teach me something! You got me watching msnbc. I was more a cnn fan, but now I switch back and forth. Ok I understand about the wikileaks being a good thing in that it opened people eyes to what is happening that didn’t see it before, but it also showed our hand. We kind of had a pass with Minister Karzai, but now that hes read the release that stated “Afghan Finance Minister Omar Zakhilwal described Karzai as an "extremely weak man" who did not listen to facts, the cable said, while former Interior Minister Hanif Atmar claimed Karzai did not understand U.S. policy in the region”. Do you think that he will continue to be in alligeance to us. NO! More of our men are going to be killed. I know that monies is being extorted, but we need cover while over there. The only way to solve this, is to pull out, which I think is the best thing anyway. I’m sick of our men dying over there for nothing. History shows we cannot beat them, especially on their own grounds, by why we’re over there we need intelligence and if it means torture than so be it. Its not like they are not torturing us, some soldiers are being beheaded. My question is now that the wikileaks report has been released, what the heck can we do about it anyway. Let the government do whatever it is they do to keep us safe.
Prosecute former president Bush for sending us into war in the first place, but not for protecting. Don’t you guys remember 911. Well I had friends at the World Trade and if it had been up to me, I would have nuked them all and dam be the consequences. We’ve got families left without mom, dads, sisters and brothers etc. Sorry, it may be wrong to feel that way, but alls fair in time of war.
Yeah prosecute the guy who leaked the information and whoever else was responsible, and hold Homeland security responsible as well and yes shut down wikileaks before those reports gets all of us killed and @ Brotha Steve, if you’ve got the skills to protect your country, than you should be standing at the front of line trying to help. Next time it could be one of your family members, or mine, or anyone else on BIA! I’m just saying!

But sister Anita, the best, most moral, solution to all this is not to make enemies of other sovereign nations. Our enemies on 911 didn't appear because of envy of our prosperity. No, it is because we make enemies, still are creating more hatred towards us. We are in 170 sovereign nations. What are we doing there?

I agree with you completely Brotha Steve 100%, but the question to be asked now, is do we just lay there and die. We need to come home and mind our own business, but when has America ever done that. They've had their hands in everyone's pocket since the beginning of time, but I'm still an American and as long as I live on this soil, I have to protect whats mine, whether my government is wrong or right. If any of those countries corner you, do you think they will listen to you tell them I'm not with my country. I don't believe in what they're doing to your country? NO! They will kill you dead. If you want to help them, you will have to live amongst them, but living here, that is not an option.

good post im in hiding right now ,,but
ill be back ,,!

espionage

@ Sister Irma, The average American has no idea of all the information you provided. All they know is we are at war, our kids, husbands and wives are dieing and if wikileaks didn’t expose all this information, said people’s lives would not now be in danger. I understand what everyone is saying, but what’s done is done. The ends justifies the means. We still have to protect this country. Hold Bush and the rest of those fools accountable for starting the war, but not for protecting us, via waterboarding, torture because when it comes down to it, it’s my life or theirs and whose do you think I will choose.
Im with you on everyone in the white house. We’ve been under their rule forever and still don’t know it. The KKK didn’t just get there, they’ve been there and never left. I bet every white man over 50 has some connection to the KKK, especially from the southern state. Freedom! What is that? As long as you or your kids don’t get out of line.
The fact is our government has caused war for oil, and there’s not a darn thing we can do about it except try to protect our own. Wikileaks just made it that much harder for us. I know the effects the military and war can cause. My ex-husband is Airforce, My boyfriend is Army retired and my sister’s jacked up is Army retired (over 20), so I see what it does. My sister says, theres nothing she would do over again, except maybe not take all those immunizations they gave her prior to going there. She says these leaks should end in capital punishment for those involved in the leaks. Everyone knows all that stuff about Bush and Clinton. That’s in everyday news, but this other stuff is detrimental to our lives.
Im in no way brainwashed, I know that my brothers and sisters are fighting a lost cause, but because of wikileaks, their life has been put into danger. There should be a call for our president to pull our troops out, because wikileaks shows that we’re in a no win situation and one more year, like Joe on MSNBC said will only cause more lives to be lost. I will agree to disagree with you on this one, my intelligent Sista. SMILE!

All I can say is poor Julian Assange... I'm glad he exposed America government's underhandedness to the America people ~ as a bully rather than the big brother our government likes to make people think it is. I've been watching how the news media has been trying to make the guy into a demon of some sort, but he exposed the side of our country that many citizens don't have the opportunity to know about. Poor Julian...

WikiLeaks is more than Julian Assange, and more than the State Department cables.

The organization has described itself as having been founded by Chinese dissidents, as well as journalists, mathematicians, and start-up company technologists from the United States, Taiwan, Europe, Australia, and South Africa.[4] Newspaper articles and The New Yorker magazine[page needed] describe Julian Assange, an Australian Internet activist, as its director.[8]

WikiLeaks has won a number of awards, including the 2008 Economist magazine New Media Award.[9] In June 2009, WikiLeaks and Julian Assange won Amnesty International's UK Media Award (in the category "New Media") for the 2008 publication of "Kenya: The Cry of Blood – Extra Judicial Killings and Disappearances",[10] a report by the Kenya National Commission on Human Rights about police killings in Kenya.[11] In May 2010, the New York Daily News listed WikiLeaks first in a ranking of "websites that could totally change the news".[12]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikiLeaks

WikiLeaks: Stronger Access Mgt. Needed
Was a Process Failure Preordained?

December 2, 2010 - Eric Chabrow

Not adequately implementing access management - deciding who should gain entry not only to an IT system but to specific data, as well - is a major process failure that led to the WikiLeaks leaks, the unauthorized access and downloading of 250,000 sensitive and classified diplomatic cables and other files.

Simply, if properly configured, an access-governance system might have prevented an Army private from extracting the diplomatic cables. The government alleges that Pfc. Bradley Manning, an Army intelligence analyst, illicitly downloaded the files through a Secret Internet Protocol Router and saved them to a disk, which he provided WikiLeaks. Though Manning had security clearance - his job was to route intelligence reports to his superiors - it's unclear why he would or should have authorization to access and download State Department reports.

Was the process failure preordained? Perhaps. A survey released earlier this year of federal IT security executives and staffers suggests that challenges of securing government information assets are more evident to the rank and file than they are to their superiors. The survey, Security in the Trenches: Comparative Study of IT Practitioners and Executives in the U.S. Federal Government, conducted by the Ponemon Institute for enterprise software vendor CA, reveals that the rank-and-file employees were much more likely than executives to see the necessity of certain enabling technologies to reduce or mitigate security risks within their organizations, and the technology with the widest difference: identity and access management systems.

Fifty-seven percent of rank-and-file workers said they saw the risk in identity and access management systems versus 41 percent of executives; that's a 16 percentage point difference. On access governance systems, 62 percent of the staffers but only 43 percent of executives saw the risk, a 19 percentage point differential.

Why the gap? "Executives tend to see the big picture, whereas the IT staff-level sees a more focused view," Gilda Carle, a relationship expert who has worked with the Army, Internal Revenue Service and IBM, said in a statement issued with the survey results. "The difference in viewpoints can greatly affect how well an organization achieves its objectives."

The takeaway isn't just the need for government IT security policymakers to be more aware of beefing up access management systems but to become more attentive to what goes on in the trenches where each individual poses a potential threat.

http://blogs.govinfosecurity.com/posts.php...

Note: I always put links to my sources. In this case, it may ask you to sign up to their site. I don't know for sure, you may or may not be able to browse their site without signing up. I've been getting their newsletters for a while now, because of my interest in INFOSEC. But I do not say there is no risk involved. The article here is complete, to sign up for their newsletter you naturally need to provide some personal information.

@ Sister Anita,
Its ok...we can agree to disagree.

@ Brotha Steve, You just said a mouthful. Great Post, Good Information. This should give us even more reason to be angry about these leaks. Steve, you should be knocking at the door to help protect your country. That company may operate on American soil, but is not American bred, and do you think they have the right to expose our country. Him reporting on the Kenyan situation caused lives to be saved. This reporting of wikileaks has caused lives to be lost. Pfc. Bradley Manning needs to be court marshaled and hanged at high noon. Smile!, for what he has brought upon the back of his own country, why? For financial gains, why else! And you guys still thinks the leaks was a good thing. He didn’t lift a hand against us in combat, only his finger to send those documents to the world to betray us.
No a lot of American men were not prosecuted and should have been, but the laws are not always fair. And two wrongs don’t make it right, and yes we need to hold our own accountable for what they have done, but when you put our sons and daughters at risk why they are at war to save your behind, you need to get the book thrown at you, and we will continue to fight for the reestablishing of certain laws. Ex: After President Obama signed off on new legislation to reduce the sentencing disparity between people caught with crack cocaine and those caught with powder cocaine, the white guys are getting probation and yet the black guys are going to get ten years in prison for having basically the same substance: one is powder, one is crack. Its wasn’t fair, but that was the law until people in opposition fought to get it changed. That’s what people like you are for Sista. “A fighting Temptation”.
Sorry to say, but **** Cheney isn’t going anywhere. They can issue those warrants, but nothing will happen. An arrest warrant "was issued and transmitted through Interpol," said Godwin Obla, the prosecuting counsel at the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission in Nigeria.
Cheney's lawyer, Terrence O'Donnell, responded to the charges with the following statement: This matter involves the activities of an international four-company joint venture (which included KBR, a subsidiary of Halliburton) well over a decade ago. The Department of Justice and the Securities and Exchange Commission investigated that joint venture extensively and found no suggestion of any impropriety by **** Cheney in his role as CEO of Halliburton. Any suggestion of misconduct on his part, made now, years later, is entirely baseless.
@Sista Jen, Love You Guys for showing there is 2 sides to every coin and that people can agree to disagree and still be civil. Everybody SMILE! God Bless!

@ Sister Anita,
You know I have nothing but love for you! ((winking at you))

Anita:

Thanks for your post AND your astute comments.

I am with Clark on this one. ON the whole, it is probably a good thing because it shows the reality of the situations we face.

An interesting piece in today's NY Times was headlined: FROM WIKILEMONS CLINTON TRIES TO MAKE LEMONADE.

As head of the state department, of course, she is trying to put the best face on all this. But she makes a great point and one I have heard from other observers. The cables actually show what a great job our diplomats are doing and how hard they are working.

To anyone who blames our government for the content of the revealed secrets-think about your own response if your private conversations were broadcast over the internet. You would be outraged and embarrassed! And they would not necessarily reflect what you actually think.

Here is the text to the NY Times piece:


MANAMA, Bahrain — When American diplomats get together these days, there is lots of dark talk about the fallout from the sensational disclosure of secret diplomatic cables. Will angry foreign governments kick out ambassadors? Will spooked locals stop talking to their embassy contacts?

Behind all the public hand-wringing, however, there is another, more muted reaction: pride.

The WikiLeaks affair has turned an unaccustomed spotlight on the diplomatic corps — pinstriped authors who pour their hearts and minds into cables, which are filed to the State Department and, until now, were often barely read by desk officers, let alone senior diplomats.

Whatever damage the leaks may do, and nobody doubts it could be substantial, they have showcased the many roles of the Foreign Service officer in the field: part intelligence analyst, part schmoozer, part spy — and to judge by these often artful cables, part foreign correspondent.

The pride of authorship is shared by their boss, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, who found a silver lining in the disclosures, even after she spent last week trying to smooth the feathers of foreign leaders described in the cables as feckless, profligate, vain, corrupt or worse.

“What you see are diplomats doing the work of diplomacy: reporting and analyzing and providing information, solving problems, worrying about big, complex challenges,” Mrs. Clinton said to reporters at the end of a four-country trip to Central Asia and the Persian Gulf that wound up being a contrition tour.

“In a way,” she said, “it should be reassuring, despite the occasional tidbit that is pulled out and unfortunately blown up.”

Not all the tidbits reflect well on the diplomats, of course. Memos from the United States Embassy in Georgia, for example, showed that it relied so heavily on the Georgian government for intelligence that it badly misjudged the country’s actions in its war with Russia in 2008.

But the overall quality of the cables — their detail, analysis, and in some cases, laugh-out-loud humor — has won fans in unlikely places. “It’s very entertaining reading,” said Aigul Solovyeva, a member of Parliament in Kazakhstan who met Mrs. Clinton there this week.

Richard E. Hoagland, the ambassador to Kazakhstan, thinks good cable-writing is so essential that he has written a guide for junior diplomats, “Ambassador’s Cable Drafting Tips.” Many of the tips would be familiar to any cub reporter trying to get an editor to bite on a story.

“The trick is to catch readers’ attention,” he advises. “The first three to five words are all they will see in their electronic queue.”

His specific recommendations? Avoid flabby writing, citing as a typically egregious example any memo that starts: “ ‘The ambassador used the opportunity of the meeting to raise the issue of’...”

And work on storytelling: “Despite what some in Washington will tell you, there is nothing at all wrong with colorful writing, as long as it communicates something.” But he adds a caveat: “Cute writing is never acceptable — cute is for toddlers, not for professional diplomats.”

Mr. Hoagland, who accompanied Mrs. Clinton to meetings this week, declined to discuss the substance of the leaked cables. But he was happy to discuss style. As a general rule, he said he instructs staff members to think like journalists. “Not everything we churn out is great writing,” he said, “but we try to keep up the standards.”

The embassy in Kazakhstan met many of Mr. Hoagland’s standards for cable-writing, even before he became ambassador there. Cables about Kazakhstan’s high-living leaders are written in a satirical tone worthy of Borat, the fictional (and wild) Kazakh played in the movie by Sacha Baron Cohen.

One described Kazakhstan’s defense minister turning up drunk for a meeting with an American official, “slouching back in his chair and slurring all kinds of Russian participles.” He explained that he had just been at a cadet graduation reception, “toasting Kazakhstan’s newly-commissioned officers.”

The memo concluded: “Who was toasted more — the defense minister or the cadets — is a matter of pure speculation.”

A 2006 cable from the embassy in Moscow showed that the staff there was also alert to the literary quality of the events on which they reported, and the value of telling details. The memo offered an account of a society wedding in Dagestan in Russia’s Caucasus, where guests threw $100 bills at child dancers and took alcohol-sodden water-scooter jaunts on the Caspian Sea. But it also showed how the wedding was a “microcosm of the social and political relations of the North Caucasus.”

For Mrs. Clinton, the pride in the diplomats’ work is a small compensation for a difficult week in which she has discussed the WikiLeaks case with more than two dozen foreign leaders, working to soothe bruised egos and explain how the security breach happened.

The job of damage control has fallen mainly to her. President Obama has not called any foreign leaders about the disclosures. Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates, meanwhile, has been reserved even though the cables were believed to be purloined from a Department of Defense computer system by an army private, Bradley Manning, who is now in a military jail.

Mrs. Clinton’s reaction to shouldering the burden has been every bit as artful as the cables that have landed her in so much trouble.

“It was a DoD system, and a DoD obviously military intel guy,” she said. “But we’re part of one government, and we’re part of one country, and we have to work together, and that’s what we’re doing.”

Ok Sister Irma, this is good conversation and as I see it, we’re even, LOL, 3 yours Sister Irma, Sis Jen and Brotha Steve and I’ll claim 3 me, Brotha Clark, myself and now Brotha Richard. Its good when people can express their feelings and not get demoralized as I see on some other blogs on this site.
@Brotha Richard, I agree completely. Hillary is my girl and I’m glad she was able to pull some good out of this. Man I wish I was home to get articles from the Post, Times and Daily News. I miss it. Don’t here, we gets none of that and if it wasn’t for the internet and obvious tv news which flashes so quickly, you don’t know what’s going on, I would go crazy. LOL!, and that leads to my next post from Color Of Change, Please go to the link provided by Color of Change and express your feelings! We need the internet open to the public, no ifs, ands, or buts about it.
@Sister Irma, Its good to have a loving heart, especially for those you don’t come into close contact with, except for the news or an occasional meeting. That’s a good thing and keep on doing what you’re doing. It takes people like you to open eyes of others. SMILE

Anita, in the security field there are those called the White Hats and the Black Hats. If I were convinced I could be a White Hat working for the government then I could do so in good conscience. How do I know whether I would need to compromise my code of ethics?

Any blogs or news media reports about chenye's interpool arrrest papers....I wonder why...and probabley why if a convicted rapist forem priest moves into our neighborhood we will never know it now will we...oh, ND SO SORRY BUT IN OUR CONSTITUTION IT SAYS ONE MUST COMMIT A CRIME BEFORE BEING LOCKED UP...BUT AGAIN BUSH AND CHENEY FOUND A WAY TO GET AROUND THIS JM CROW LAW NOW DID THEY NOT AND HERE WE ARE IN TEH BLACK COMMUNITY SUPPORTING THIS VERY LAW!!!!!!!! (SMILE)AS WE GO BACK TO THE TIME OF GUILT FOR BEING BLACK...RAND PAUL IS IN A GOOD POSTITON TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK FOR THOSE REPUBLICANS...MUSH LIKE TEH BLACKS WERE USED TO OUT LAW AFFIRMATIVE ACTION...SOEM THINGS WE JUST KNOW FROM BEING BLACK AND DON'T NEED THE MEDIA TO POINT OUT THESE THINGS TO OR FOR US WE AHVE BEEN THERE FOR OVER 400 YEARS AND CAN SEE IT COMING...(NUP0

@Anita, protect us from what???? As no one can protect us from our ownselves. example, if we fought in Iraq for oil then it is China not us taht jained for the loss of all of those lives which included many countless babies still in teh Iraqi mother's womb (do we even want to know tis wich we already know or are these people not fellow human beings because they are not white male protestants?!?

me being an African-American we shoud be more in fear of teh kkk without hoods today because we successfully sued to not allow tehm to wear these in public any more...but in Nov. we just over ruled Jim Crow not being i poser as we continued to do what demean eh black mother and the NOI because they refuse drug sales in the neighborhoods where they live or will creat jobs to keep our people off or welfare????

anite we have computers and any thing we want to kow we can use them to do more than put our peoples down...this is not wikileak's fault is is our fault!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I study and learn from as many different resources as possiable even if I don't agree with these resorces I learn from tehm...and even more important "I" never not chant (pray) and then gointo actions to help my prayers to come to beings...

Free is like that poem of Siebra's I so love is so correct...FREEDOM OR FREE is teh question...one can only be free when one takes full control over their own lives...we canonly live our own lives not anyone else's lives no mattery ow hard we pray and ask our god to do so for us to be able to be happy, secure, FREE FORMOBSTICLES I LIFE...and please america...

WE JUST VOTED FOR A RETURN TO TEH CRY OF THE RIGHT/ KKKWITOUT HOODS IN NOV...SO LETS GET READY TO HELP MAKE BVBOE ENFORCED OF NOT...AND AS JEN SO FAMOUSLY SAYS WHO MADE ME AN EXPERT ON BLACK IN AMERICA...AND TIS IS NOT ABOUT THIS PRESENT GENERATION IT IS ALL IN EH PAST...

WELL AMERICA WELCOME TO BACK TO TEH FUTURE...OH AND BE VERY CAREFUL OF ROPE... THE PERSON ON TEH OTHER END OF IT JUST MIGHT BE YOU FOR TRYING TO ...OR JUST REMEMBER WHAT RAND PAUL SAID ABOUT US TRYING TO EAT ANY PLACE WE WANT TO WHILE BEING BLACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(NUP)

NOW BLACK AMERICA TAHT QUOTE CAME FROM RAND PAUL OF AMERICAN SENATER RAND PAUL ELECT AND NOT WIKILEAKS...(SMILE)

@Anite, I know your intellegance knows nor accept any bounds and I so love and respect you for this. (smile) And, it is the minds like yours taht is going to be what ends up saving our country. Our country is not different than it changes with time and we learn by our mistakes but never actually make any much needed and over due C-H-A-N-G-E until tragity strikes!!! example, ...

America n like the citizens of countries 'dying' to get into our country still believe that America is the land of milk and honey...and much like any addiction until the person or place hits rock solid bottom do they seek to change by kicking the habit that is so self satisfing and safe and secure...and like a house divided we as a county can not stand on this foundation of hate, greed, prejudice as in ignorance!!!!!!!!!!!!

WE READ AND QUOTE TEH BIBLE BUT DO WE ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND TEH PURPOSE / MEANINGS OF TEH WORDS IN TEH HOLEY BIBLE? WE HAVE GOT TO EDUCATE AND REEDUATE OUR OWN SELVES ON THESE MATTERS...

HOW MANY ARE READY TO LEARN WHAT IS MEANT BY "SEEK AND YE SHALL FIND"..."I" KNOW "I" AM. (S-M-I-L-E)

@Anita, my points are never to do any mORE than try to get us to all look at all sides of an issue. example, the twin towers...

the building that tim Mcvey blew up was a FEDERAL BUILDING AND IS NOT A FEDERAL BUILDING OUR AMERICAN GOVERNMENT???...

WE TALK ABOUT THIS UNSUCCESSFUL THIS YEARS CHRISTMAS BOMBING AND IT WAS GOING TO INVOLVE CHILDREN...AND YET NOT ONLY WAS TEH BUILDING BLOWN UP BY T.McV. TEH FIRST FLOOR WAS A NURSERY FOR FROM INFANTS TO 3 -5YRS ALSO!!!!!!!! IT IS NEVER TEH RIGHT OR THE WRONG IT IS HOW WE ARE TAUGHT THAT IF IT IS NOT A WHITE PRESON COMMITING THE CRIME THEN IT IS WHAT???? ALRIGHT SO LETS JUST VOVER LOOK IT (it id n the past like the millions of blacks hung by the kkk??????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ..

i DON'T APOLOGIZE FOR NOT ACCEPTING THIS NO MORE TAHN I ACCEPT CONVICTED CHILD MOLESTING PRIEST NOT GOING ON TEH MEGAN LAW LIST...WRONG IS WRONG PERIOD AND THOSE KILLED BY McVEY OR US NOT CALLING THAT WHITE MAN CONVICTED In OUR COURTS NOT A KILLER (terrorist when he was actually fighting against us in teh middle-east) OF OUR PEOPLE WHILE SAYING MUSLIMS ARE THE TERRORIST WHEN WE HAVE OVER LOOKED OUR OWN KILLING OUR OWN AND CA UGHT RED HANDED!!!...

DID YOU SEE ANYONE CALLING FOR THIS WHITE CHRISTAIN AMERICAN WHITE MALE fightin against us in afganistan.TO GO TO GITMO?!!!!? for him to NOT HAVE A CIVILIAN court trial HELL NO AND WE STILL ARE WILLING TO ASK FOR TREASON FOR WIKILEAKS WHEN THIS MAN WAS NOT CAUGHT FIGHTING AGAINST AMERICAN MILITARY PERSOANL...MY LOVELY SISTA ANITA THIS IS REALLY WHERE I AM COMING FROM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(NUP)...oh, by the way anyone miss the Pope coming to America asking that we forget and forgive the childmolestaion of our children for over 50 years...any one alking about them and theyhave been convicted while wikileaks has not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!is what "I" reject as fair, democtaric or anything else...(N...U...P big time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

BUT YOU Anita my sista in spirit you ALWAYS BRING A SMILE TO ME...LOV YA...AND YOUR OPENED MIND. and all of your teaching moment blogs on BIA (SMILE)

...OH ALMOST FORGOT MSNBC WORKS HAND IN HAND WITH COLOR OF CHANGE. (SMILE)AND IF YOU PAY COLSE ATTENTION YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE IN TEH STYLE OF THEIR REPORTING ON THE BLACK COMMUNITY BECAUSE OF THIS..AND WHY AFTER COC COMPALINED THE THEN WENT AFTER CNN BIG TIME NOT AS MUCH AS FOX BUT FOR THE SAME REASONS...EDUCATE!!!EDUCATE!!!EDUCATE!!! (SMILE)

@Anita, I agree with you about cheney...and to be truthful it is only because the lives cheney caused in African don't count to anyone except those like me who believe that lives of Africans are as presious as any other country...yes lov from war to starvation lives are lost and being lost at this very moment inAfrica because of Cheney...but again as you said these are not American lives. (nup)

Anita, th emost important thing we must keep sacrate is our American Constitution ...and although the Bush administration had no respect /use for it our president is a constitution attorney and former law professor and I will go by what the university of george Washingto law professor says taht is a regular law analyst on msnbc...Count Down...and he said last week that we have an extradition treaty with this country since 1931 whichmeans if our president don't want to get thrown out of office and maybe put in jail this country will have to give up Cheney if these two things happen...the warrent for arrest is VALITD AND THEY KNOW WHERE CHENEY IS...and, this is all...

OUR PRESIDENT AND NO COURT IN AMERICA CAN ENFORCE AN ILLEGAL ACT WHICH WOULD MEAN NOT TO HONOR THE "LEGAL AND BINDING WARRENT AND TO EXTRADITE CHENEY... in the long turn.....WE CAN NOT HOLD NO ONE PERSON ABOVE OUR LAWS...THE LAST THING I WANT IS ANY TRUTH ABOUT OUR BEST CONGRESS THAT LOBBY MONEY CAN BUY out in teh national , international public courts of opinions , period...

BUT THE LAW IS THE LAW AND WE MUST OBEY IT NO MATTER WHAT...AND I CHANT (PRAY) THAT WE DO JUST THIS...WE HAVE SO LITTLE RESPECT AS A NATION BECAUSE OF TEH BUSH ADMINISTRATIONS IN TEH FIRST PLACE WE DON'T NEED VIOLATING OUR OWN CONSTITUTION ADDED TO THIS NOW DO WE??? (SMILE)

@RICH...now the other side this is what was in my local paper (each day they have a different, but the same national reporter's article printed in teh spot t in my paper called OTHER VIEWS (11-3-10)...

"Instead of disparaging the motives of the leaks, Clinton should offer a forthright explanation of why she continued the practice of Condoleezza Rice, her predecessor as sectrary of state, of using American diplomats to spy on their colleagues working at the United Nations. why did she issue a specific directive ordering U.S. diplomats to collect biometric information on U.N. secratary- General Ban ki-moon and many of his colleagues?"...

This paragraph was taken from part of an article titled Hillary getsWiki-served by Robert Scheer who is a contributing editor for The Nation magazine and editor- in-chief of the political blog Truthdig.com. .. e-mail him at rscheer@truth...I found this very interesting...as this is now mega bucks for far too many peoples to be able to allow this scandal to die without carrying a lot of innocent as well as guilty people down in the muck! (nup)

Best selling book 'S'...tv movie of teh week on all channel networks ..$$$$spent on a giant screen movie in many different languages (and maybe 3D lol)...ratings and ads, ads and ratings is what it is all about...G-R-E-E-D...and, as Clark can say...those who worship at the alter of greed...(smile)

and, I will repeat, "I" FULLY BELIEVE the FIRST AMENDMENT IS ON TRIAL HERE". (SMILE)

...WELL i SAID i WOULD SHUT U BUT I BELEIVE YOU SHOULD KNOW TIS FACTS ALSO...SADDAM IRAQ AS IS SADIA ARABIA TO IRAN AS THE SALVE MASTER LOOKS DOWN AT THE SALVES...IRAN IS SUPERIOR AND THE OTHER TOW ARE LESS TAHN BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT PERSIAN STOCK...THIS DID NOT START NOW IT HAS BEEN GOING ON SICE THE PRESIAN EMPIRE..OK? THESE PEOPLE HATE EACH OTER BECAUSE OF CLASS AS WELL AS ONE BELIEVES THE OTHER HAS THE WRONG RELIGION DOES TIS OUND LIKE MAYBE bLACKS AND wHITES cHRISTIANS AND NON CHRISTAINS IN AMERICA??? F-A-C-T...DI YYOU NOTICE EACH TIME THE PRESIDENT PRESIDENT OF IRAQ WENT TO IRAN TO VISIT WITH HIS TRUE LEADER AS THESE PEOPLE PUT RELIGION FIRST AND FARMOST UNON HIS RETURN THERE WAS ALWAYS A CALL OF US TO GET OUT OF IRAQ???...IN AFGANISTAN THE WAR LORDS ARE THE TRUE RULERS AND THE ONE WHO KICKED RUSSIA OUT OF THEIR COUNTRY..NO NOT WIKILEAK SO PLEASE LET US PLEASE GET OVER TIS LATEST BRAINWASINGS PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (NUP)

aND, ANITA, i AM NOT WILLING TO EVEN ENTERTAIN YOU BEIEVING THE TRUTH IS WRONG, NOW DO YOU. ABOUT THE PEOPLES IN nIGIRA STARVING BECAUSE THE OIL HAS RUIONED THEIR LANDS, i LEARNED WHEN i LEARNED THE REASON THEY TRIED TO SHUT THE WELLS DOWN...LAST YEAR...DID YOU MISS IT THE FEW TIMES IT WAS ALLOWED TO BE SEEN...SOMEONE DID PUT IT ON YOUTUBE...OH, AND IF YOU WERE A FAN OF RACHEL MADDPW THIS IS GOOD AS TO SO MUCH THAT IS GOING ON OVER THERE...THESE REPUBLICANS THAT RACHAEL VIEWERS HAVE THEM UP ON TAXEVASION FOR USING A PLACE CALLED C STREET A CHURCH SO SOM MINISTERS WHO WATCH HER GOT UPSET TAHT THESE SENATORSUSING THS PLACE NOT PAY RENT NOT REPORT IT AS A GIFT ALL IILEGAL AND THESE PEOLE IN THE CHURCH ARE ALSO INTROUBLE FOR TRYING TO GET THIS COUNTRY TO KILL ALL OF THEIR HOMOS...YES LOV THIS SOUNTRY IS IN SO BAD COMAPNY WITH OUR POLITICAL LEADERSHIP

NUFF SAID...AND, NO THIS IS NOT ON WILILEAKS OR THE LAST PERSON THEY WANT IN A COURT ROOM IS TIS PRESON...(SSMILE

@Anita and tis did not come from wikileaks...this was on MSNBC years ago...and if you look back to the begining or these two wars you can see this truths...Saddam was backed in an 8 yr. war with Iran backed by us...the Taliban in afganistan aslo...Sadamm is the onlyone who could keep Iran under wraps since this connty borke the yoke of the American backed figure heads as in the king of this country!!!!!!Oh, forgot ow Saddma keep Alquaeda undr contorl also...

back to the beginning of the war in aftanastian...our eyes and ears in tose mountains and our winning against the war lords supported by the opics fields was I-R-A-N...remembr how well the fight was going fo rus...then Bush called Iran a WHAT eventough they were our main allies in that war(oh but the america public did not know this now did they)???????? SEE WHER i AM GOING WITH TRUTHS AND FACTS THAT IS NOT WANTED BY THE AVERAGE AMERICAN...MUCH LIKE 8 YEARS OF WAR NOT PAID FOR AND WE ARE NOW USING TIS AGAINST OUR PRESIDENT OT BUSH...NO IT IS NOT WIKILEAKS TAHT IS TELLING TIS IT IS ALREADY KNON IT IS JUST TAHT BRAINWASHINGS WORK SO WELL AND GUESS HOW WE GET OUR NEWS????? (NUP)

WHY DO i WATCH MSNBC...WELL TOSE WO DO KNOW TIS AHEAD OF WIKILEAKS AND WE TALK BACK AND FORTH AS WE ARE RETIRED MILITARY AND WE HAVE BEEN THERE DONE TAHT IT IS OUR CHILDREN NOT THEIR PARENTS IN THIS AND DYING TODAY...YOU GET VERY EDUCATED AND OT ACCEPT ALL OF TIS BULL CRAK ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HUSBAND IS SUFFERING FROM WHAT OUR GOVERNMENT DID I nAM AND THE NEW ONES TO SUFFER SERVED IN TEH DESERT STORM...AND IT GOES ON AND ON NOT WIKILEAK JUST US STILL REFUSINT TO FACE FACTS NO MATTER WHERE IT COMES FROM...AND WE HAVE THE BEST CONGRESS THAT LOBBY MONEY CAN BUY ONLY NOWWE HAVE TEH KKK THERE WITHOUT HOODS BUT STILL THERE...WE HAVE JUST VOTED TO GO BACK TO PRE THE 60S ND YET WE DON'T KNOW IT...SEEN ANY ROOPES LATELY EVENON SNOWMEN NOT ON SCHOOL YARDS...YOUKNOW THOSE "J-O-K0E-S". (NUP)

ILEAVE THS BOG NOW...I AM DONE. LOV YA(SMILE)

...AND, ONE MORE THING MY BEATUIFUL SISTA WE HEAR ALL of teh time ow people go train in teh middle east...how often do we hear tehose who flew into those toweeres TRAINED FRIGHT HERE IN THE U.S.OF A.???? THAT BUSH KNEW ABOUT THE PENDIND ACTUAL SECOND ATTACK ON AMERICA BECAUSE THE FIRST WAS ON THE TOWERS WHEN CLINTON WAS PRESIDENT...AND GUES WHAT NO GITMO...AND DID YOU SEE THE NEWS TODAY THAT CUBA (WHERE GITMO IS) NOW IS HOLDING AN aMERICAN UNDER THE SAME CONDITIONS AND WITH OUT CHARGES OFICIALLY JUST LIKE WE DO AT GITMO...GUESS HOW WE ARE LOOKING AT CUBA FOR SOING OUR CITIEN WRONG YOU KNOW LIKE OUR PEOPLE AR HUMAN AND THOSE IN OTHER COUNTRYS ARE NOT?????/

ME AS A BUDDHIST WE DON'T SUPPORT WAR UNDER ANY EXCUSES...WE OBEY THE THOU SHALL NOT KILL IN FULL!!!(SMILE)

Actually, me for one hopes they arrresting him...and if we think the arrest of Rosa Parks had nothing to do with our government not enforcing their own laws then we have no right to be complaining about how the fox news cable networks reports their news...

because in truth this person's arrest will force the first ammendment to stop being changed with every complaint against Fox as well as granting rights for foreign governments to by votes in our law makings and not being able to build a Mosque in N.Y. solely on the prejudices of the amss news media manipulating the First Amendments...pleasee remember teh schools in teh north and taHE bus' in teh north were already obeying the TOTAL VIOLATIONS OF THE jIM CROW LAWS...ALL WITH THE BLESSING OF OUR FEDERAL, LOCAL AND STATE GOVERNMENTS...

WAKE UP MY PEOPLE AND FELLOW AMERICAN CITIZENS...THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION MUST NOT BE ALLOWED TO BE ABOVE THE LAW AND OUR PRESIDENT MUST BE ABLE TO ATTEND ANY CHRISTIAN BLACK CHURCH OF HIS CHOICE!!!!!!!!!!! NOT ACCORDING TO THE CHURCHOF THE FOX NEWS NETWORKS CHOICE OF B-L-A0C-K CHURCHES FO ROUR PRESIDENT(SMILE)

"I" ONLY SPEAK FO RME ON TIS NEED FOR EQUALITY EVEN IN THE FIRST AMENDMENT...(NUP)

@ANITA, please try to understand taht as long as Wikileaks is willing to help our country to take a look at teh abuses of the past administration and in any way help us understand that we are on teh verge to vote in two more years more of teh same by putting that same party plus the Teaparty in as the majority...I must back the First Amendment as a part of BVBOE and with all taht is in me to do so. (smile)

I aslo believe it is morally wrong to support a tax cut for the rich at the expense of our Children's having food to eat and a place to saay by way of an extention of the unemployment checks as theyhad no parts in exporting theri jobs but the Bush tax cuts did!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (n...u...p big time and truth over more dead in the middle-east ...9smile)

...and, wheere do we get off blaming wikileaks for our government being able to make nations safe for 9 years and counting and yet can not even protect our country from their own using our own computers to give out this informationin teh first...how much is being poured into homeland security for them not b eing help fully responsiable for tis and is it in any way tied to calling a person a terorist related to SKIN COLOR...OR ARE WE NOT SAYING THIS IS IN ANY WAY NOT A THREAT TO TIS COUNTRY AS TRYING TO UNSUCCESSFULY BLOW UP AN AIR PLANE...AGAIN SKIN COLOR????

ONLY IN AMERICA (NUP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

...AMERICA AR E WE GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT FOR WIKILEAKS TO REPORT TAHT THEY ARE NOT THE ONLYONES TAHT ARMY PRIVATE RELEASED THIS INFORMATION TO OR ARE WE GOING TO LISTEN TO SOMETINGS WE HAVE BEEN CHOSEN NOT TO ADMIT AND EVEN VOTIEN IN TEH LAST ELECTION FO RMORE OF THE SAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????!!!?...

ONLY IN AMERICA WHERE OUR TOP PRIORITY IS HATE ACCORDING TO AGE, GENDER SOCIAL STATUS, RACE, SKIN COLOR AND CREED!!! (N...U...P BIG TIME)

...also how much tax-borrowed money has gone into Homeland security for allowing tis to happen in teh first place because they knew about this way of leaking top security information and put off doing anything to correct this whole mess in teh first place...this is where I am coming from...one must correct homeland secrity in what its job discription is fire everyone or get a working americn government department that does not allow us to get in teh position we are with cheny's arrest warrent and the arrest of the owner of wikileaks... (nup)

@Clark, I gather you missed Homeland security talking about how they putting off corecting the way taht tis soldiar was able to send all of these top sceret things out to not just wilileaks?!? anyneews frenzy over the arrest of this active duty arm private now in a military jail for his part in all of this...any news coverage of how american citizens can be arrested if a allied nation feels cheney , Bush ahs broken the laws of teh Geneva peace treaty...???..more examples of our ____________?!?

any government yet saying wikileak is lying and they plan to prove this?!? (nup)

Thanks steve for tis new resource of info...it was said tis morning taht they now have service in Switzerland. (smile)but not to worrry I am sure if money can buy governments and freedom of information laws , I am sure it can buy internet service. lol (smile)

@Sista Anita (could you please read my blogs posted today with the name Wilkleaks in them..and you will be able to better understand that this is caused by a department taht was put into place bu G.W.Bush called Homeland Security...what I see is two foles in teh matter.

Teh country that has invaded how many soverign nations in teh past say 9 years was ----------- The country and whose department is asmiting it it theri fault that one of our men in the military and with them looking at him doing this did not stop it...nowwe can't hind we can mahe it never happpened...but do you for one minute tahe wikileaks si responsiablwe for homeland security allowing all of thid secret information getting out....

as for me I have said all along the next war wil be fought with getting control of the enenys computers...it is not any ones duty to protect our top priority papers and if we can't do it...well have you heard of anyone getting fired and if not then why not...

do you know anything as to what they did like arrest the sllier who gave out this information????? Have you heard that our president may just have done something ellegal also...do you really want this man...

You mentioned WAr...what war do you mean? where did you get this idea...and only Congress can declare war. I am sure they will and if they go to ear they will use more than personal emotions and skin color and sreed as trying to get a country to throw away their cultural dress and put on geans as learn to disrespet their parents as liberated people...

...and, as soon as our government realizes taht one of their own in the american army is not theone wo gave all of this information to wilileaks and others (yes and others) then they will apologize to himfor false imprisonment an let him out of the brige in quantico...qunatico is a marine base about 35 miles from D.C.and also the home of the fbi /cia...(smile)

ONLY IN AMERICA...

...OOPS $8 BILLION EVERY 4 WEEKS...weapons in Mexico coming from the USA...(nup)

@steve, I just deleted my last two comments that I made before I found this out...wikileak has a new net provider...greed is what makes things happen today. and learning not from wikileaks but from MSNBC about out president is soon to be in Afganastan a place while 800,000 American former takx payers will not be able to buy a toy (s) for their children in afgan thier tax money and borrowing from Chian the recieve $8 billion from us and much of it goes to build mansions there...

oh well lets see how the camplaints will be coming in about how much it cost for our president to have gone there to visit with our troops making all of this possiable...

oh and by the way will we have to wait to hear fromwilileaks about the Americans being found dead with their heads cut off in the war right on our borders between teh Mexicangovernment and the drug cartels????

ONLY IN AMERICA DO WE NOT ALLOW TRUTH AND FACTS AND THE REAL WORLD INTO OUR SOCIETY... (NUP)

Anita you know I so love you so lets right end this need for us to not be on the same side....now please let us start with this
1.Has the first amendment been vioilated?
Do you believe that the republicans not ratifing the president R regan's peace deal with russia and not going to sing in although russia says we will be returning to the cold war...as you are young do you know what cold war meams....here is a hint...roll out those thousands of nuclear bombs and clean them up and get them on stand by...

pick you choice on what is the greater threat to our country and the world with all of those stored weapons of mass distructions back in action...one good ting is will open up a lot of jobs to monitor and be ready to fire...just we must return to tose old past prayers that no computer glich fire on by mistake...

NOw love we are going to take this peice by peoce oh...there is going to be a lot of bull in the media becausethe one party is going to cause fearas a way of life...I will be reporting my info from the floors of congress, will make notes of what is going on on the house and the senate floors...if you want to find news that is not manipulated as they have guess and naje thm takj not come on and do sound bits of prepared talking points is msnbc from 2pm two 4 and 5 to 7 they are the best for being objective and funny...Rachel has so many degree I doubt if she kkow how many she has and she really gode it and show you how to find things needed to find fro your self. she has done the heavy lifting..

but the way it looks cheney is a done deal on being arrested...I wiold love to see him and bush going to our president for help...all that oil over there that has those peoples lands so messed up they had to trun to piracy to get money to eae...thanks wikileaks that now they are fointo have to help clean up my amfican couson's lands so they can stop dying for starviving as the cheney's and bushs get more rich...

wasn't someone asking how the rich keep getting rica...this is how and sictroy a beautiful old civilized people in teh dong it...but who cares they have black skin...but then wilileals is the wrong one for bringing this sufferings to the fore front...we know about tis in america and why we don't even bother with the this is all about therm killing each other and not starviving because oil has thei lands like the have the gulf coast...

WAKE UP MY PEOPLE FOR OUR COOUSINS DYING OF STARVATION IN AMRICA WILILEAK IS A BLESSING....NOW THAT THE PUBLIC KNOWS HELP, PROPER HELP IS ON THE WAY TAN WAS PROMISED GENERATIONS AGO....

PLEASE LEARN ABOUT OUR PEOP;E FIRST HAND, A LOT OF THEM ARE ALL OVER TIS COUNTRY SEEKING HJELP...IG YOU LIVE NEAR A COLLEGE GO MEET THEM GO TALK TO THEM....WE ARE SURVIVERS ARE WE NOT???? (SMILE)