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Jamal: If the fantasy of Jesus and; or Santa is not real to you no one can make you believe otherwise. No more than you can change their minds to believe in anything else you believe in. Only those willing to come and these are the ones who will believe .
Because they believed.
MIIS
Jamal, Santa Claus is a story some tell to their children. He has nothing to do with Jesus.
Lets make sense out of it. Story telling is big business. The story of Santa Claus is fantastic. A fat white man coming down the chimney of homes all over the world bearing gifts. Parents endorse the lie by delivering on the promise knowing Santa is a Lie. It spikes the economy of nations and all gets stroked. The problem is that really it is a lie. Who cares since it generates smiles, laughter and fosters giving ?
In the case of Jesus; what another fantistic story. An honorable human being murdered, then made to return to the world bearing gifts. Every thing Jesus is supposedly to do upon his return, the caucasian race takes it upon themselves. African Americans pray to a dead Jesus for heat in the winter. The caucasian race provides them heat from generating stations in the cities. African Americans pray to a dead Jesus for food and shelter. The caucasian race provides food and shelter from their farmland and the houses that they have built with their hands. African Americans pray to Jesus for an automobile and again the caucasian race delivers. No wonder that African Americans believe that Jesus is providing for them...the caucasian race would have it no other way.
@Steve, you must not be aware that the story of Jesus during bible study is told to African American children.
@Missrael...your sincerety is noted. To believe and to find later that that belief was true shows courage and dedication. But, to believe and to find later that that belief was NOT true rather they were "tricked" is something else.
Jamal, was Jesus indeed murdered? Now the answer to this question does not differ along color lines. Santa is fat and white because he's from Germany.. At least the Caucasians got that one right.
When a child finds out that Santa Claus is not real from others instead of from his/her parents, they discover that their parents are liars and begin to question what other lies are being told to them.
Excellent point Helen.....children are much smarter than parents would believe.
Jamal I have one more comment...Most lies can be verified with and proven with the truth. For instance Santa Claus can be proven he is not true, because he is make believe and when discovered children are disappointed. That's a lie that is proven. However, when it come to Jesus over the centuries men have tried to prove he is a lie, but none can..there is no sound truth except that men sayings he was a fable. Then when those who believe in Santa find the truth they are free from the lies of the jolly giver of toys. The revelation truth of Jesus is revealed to those who believe in him, because he proves himself to them that he is real through the Holy Spirit. Spiritual vs fantasy...If one is a real spirit like Jesus there is no connection to fantasy like Santa Clause. Jesus is a living Spirit of God. Thanks for hearing my views..Jamal
I'll leave you now. :>) Smiles
Miisrael..They tell the children not to wait up for Santa Claus to come down the chimney for if he knows you are waiting, Santa will skip their house. That way, no child has ever seen Santa coming down their own chimney. In the case of Jesus (PBUH), no one has actually "seen" him since his death over 2000 years ago. But, they teach us we must believe in him to LIVE. Well, who does not want to live ? Seeing IS BELIEVING. Since there is no SEEING when it comes to Jesus, the Europeans do their hardest to fulfill the Jesus promises.
@Jamal, you say ship Jesus...they say Santa...is either about death or about happiness and joy? (smile)
Hollywood never run out oaf peoples giving them a reason to do movies promoting star, space ships or santa...and again these also have i common $$$$$$$$$$$$$ and getting the (some of the )public's attention and maybe joining in. (smile)
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Hello Jamal,
Black Americans do not want our time spent on Jesus and Santa Claus. Black Americans need to know who we are and what our future holds.
Now, according to your teachings Black Americans are the Asiatic Black man and you are wrong. I had explained to you how Black Americans came into existence and that Black Americans are a new race of people only 500 years old.
Secondly, Black America's future is not bunching up with the Arabian people and their religion of Islam. Black Americans want to have our own of everything as the Arabian people have their own of everything.
So, let us begin about Jesus and Santa Claus. Jesus belongs to the Jewish people since he was a Jew. Santa Claus belongs to the European gentiles. Consequentially, Black Americans are not interested in either one sense Black Americans are neither Jew nor European gentiles.
I am wiser than Elijah Muhammad ever was. I am Black America's first genuine prophet that would lead us into sovereignty or complete independence from White America on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to worship God, pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way. Am I making any sense with you?
Tell me what you think.