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Hello to all,
Do not be ignorant. When a Muslim says that the Quran is the Word of God but the Bible is the word of the man that Muslim is simply behaving like the old Mr. Frog praising his own pond. Old Mr. Frog tells all the other frogs in the community that his pond has the best water of all the other ponds in the community. So, let's not be silly.
Both books are the Word of God to their own people. In other words, the Bible is the Word of God to the Jewish people. The Quran is the Word of God to the Arabian people.
In fact, neither one of these books are the Word of God to Black Americans since we know that Black America's prophet must be the same race as Black Americans. Therefore, we will have an opportunity to write our own religious book as the Arabian people wrote the Quran. Am I making any sense?
Consequentially, Prophet Mohammed was an Arab man and he was a prophet specifically for the Arabian people. Likewise, Moses and Jesus were Hebrew/Jewish people and therefore were the prophets specifically for the Jewish people. In addition, Prophet Gandhi who was Indian was the prophet specifically for the people of the country of India.
Again, our prophet must be A Black American as we are.
Okay,
Harry, That person was the Honorable Elijah Muhammad which began his work about 1930 to 1975 or 45 years delivering the message from almighty God Allah to the Black Americans.
Hello Jamal,
Jamal, Mr. Elijah Muhammad could not have been Black America's first genuine prophet for many reasons. Let me give you one, okay.
God the Creator would never rise up a Black American man that is a descendent of plantation slavery and planned in his head the religion that was giving to Prophet Mohammed for his Arabian people 1400 years ago as Black America's salvation is absurd, and spiritually ludicrous. We, Black Americans must have our own to be free and spiritually, mentally and physically. We know that the religion of Islam belong to the Arabian people. Without a doubt we know this. Don't you know that Islam was introduced into the world by Prophet Mohammed who was an Arabian man? The religion of Islam did not exist before Prophet Mohammed. Do you not know that it was God that gave Prophet Mohammed the religion of Islam to give to his people? Likewise, God gave me the religion LIFE for Black Americans. It is prophets that introduce religion to his people. Elijah Muhammad has introduced Prophet Mohammed's religion of Islam to Black Americans which would mean that Elijah Muhammad was not our prophet. I am Black America's first genuine prophet. It will be me that all things from God to Black Americans will be done in me.
In other words, God has never anointed a Chinese man to be a prophet to the Japanese people. It is absolutely ludicrous to believe that God has done something like that before. If God has ever anointed a man of one race (Elijah Muhammad) to teach the Gospel, religion, ways and customs of another people (Arabian people) as that man's (Elijah Muhammad) salvation then you show me where that has ever happened in the creation of mankind and I will follow you.
What say you?
My dearest Irma,
wiseIrma, understandingIrma, beautifulIrma.
AlIslaam and the Way of Mohamed(as) is no Change from Adaam(as) Our Father, - thru the Monotheistic ORIGINAL words of AtTaurat('oldTest")---AlInjeel('newTest") --- AzZaboor(lyrics of David)--- thru the TanzilAlQur'aan(Inspiration of The Creator)
One day YOUR daughterSiebra may UNDERSTAND AlIslaam and AlQur'aan as well as you do.
and Jamal may get bigger.
Jamal, NO, Our Father Elijah Muhammad NEVER delivered "any Message from ALLAAH to blackAmericans."
He delivered a message from his slaverAmericana Experience -- to ALL AMERICA, "Read AlQur'aan and Follow the Sunnah of Mohamed(as)-- "for your growth" ---As HIS FAMILY is DOING in 2011.
And Harry, it would help all of us if you would hurry up and write your scriptures instead of just talking about it or saying the desire for sovereignty must be present first. KRS-ONE has already written his gospel, you are now playing catchup.
Hello Steve,
You said that KRS-ONE has already written his gospel, you are now playing catch-up. What is KRS-ONE gospel? What if anything does KRS-ONE has to do with me and the sovereignty of Black Americans on a fertile portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders?
You gave no examples of KRS-ONE gospel that I need to catch up with as you said. Consequentially, I find that you are without credibility and your comment amounts to no more than criticism. All that you are doing is whining and complaining about my superior wisdom and anointed to be Black America's first genuine prophet.
There were many derelicts in the days of Moses that criticize Moses as well as whined and complained about Moses at every opportunity. You are doing just that with me, am I right.
Stop being silly!
What say you?
N WAY UP!!!
These words helped me to better understand these two things :
1.They talked with a White female who had made a pilgrimage to Mecca last year and he rwords were she had converted to Islam , because it made her for the first time feel close to GOD.
2. My continuing to hear that Islam is the fastest growning religion is the world today.
"I" do so love learning, objectively. (smile)
...does anyone remember a whole back I mentioned I was studying with the person who delivers my medications from the drug store wo is a Sikh?...
well the main thing that impressed me with this religion was this religion has not changed! It is forbidden to change it from its original....there have been split offs, but they have had to add or substract something from the name of Sikh and the middle men have changed the wordings, rules and regulations...need I say more?? (otfl) (smile)
That wonderful story my beautiful almost perfect daughter was a perfect example of turning learning into wisdom. Thanks (smile)
@Harry, if your comment was to me about the Frog OWNING HIS OWN P-O-N-D...thanks for your concern, but not to worry as I have not confused the person mentioned by me with : you Jesus or the God that inspired you ...
oh, and by the way Harry do you own any space on the planet yet? (smile)
It is just too, too bad that it is almost impossiable to learn any thing about this what should be a wonderful religious teachings...it just turns into everything but teaching moments...
and, this is so, so sad...............
(nup / smile)
Speaking for me who is always wanting to learn about any and everything that can help bring peace as well as understanding...
I must give robert credit for actually posting somethings straight from the Islamic holy book uncensured or self promoting...and it helps me much like when Clark and MIISRAEL helped me to better undeerstand a religion I had been born into and live daily in my life with...but then it was given to me as a ONE SIZE FITS ALL WHICH I FOUND DID NOT FIT ME. (smile)
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BEAUTIFUL STORY ABOUT THE QURAN
Why do we (Muslims) read Quran, even if we can't understand a single Arabic word????
This is a beautiful story.
An old American Muslim lived on a farm in the mountains of eastern Kentucky with his young grandson. Each morning Grandpa was up early sitting at the kitchen table reading his Quran. His grandson wanted to be just like him and tried to imitate him in every way he could.
One day the grandson asked, 'Grandpa! I try to read the Quran just like you but I don't understand it, and what I do understand I forget as soon as I close the book. What good does reading the Qur'an do?'
The Grandfather quietly turned from putting coal in the stove and replied,
'Take this coal basket down to the river and bring me back a basket of water.'
The boy did as he was told, but all the water leaked out before he got back to the house. The grandfather laughed and said, 'You'll have to move a little faster next time,' and sent him back to the river with the basket to try again. This time the boy ran faster, but again the basket was empty before he returned home. Out of breath, he told his grandfather that it was impossible to carry water in a basket, and he went to get a bucket instead.
The old man said, 'I don't want a bucket of water; I want a basket of water.
'You're just not trying hard enough,' and he went out the door to watch the boy try again.
At this point, the boy knew it was impossible, but he wanted to show his grandfather that even if he ran as fast as he could, the water would leak out before he got back to the house. The boy again dipped the basket into river and ran hard, but when he reached his grandfather the basket was again empty. Out of breath, he said, 'See Grandpa, it's useless!'
'So you think it is useless?' The old man said, 'Look at the basket.'
The boy looked at the basket and for the first time realized that the basket was different. It had been transformed from a dirty old coal basket and
was now clean, inside and out.
'Son, that's what happens when you read the Qur'an. You might not understand or remember everything, but when you read it, you will be changed, inside and out.. That is the work of Allah in our lives.'