What makes Black Americans like "BABY BIRDS"......Huh

I am reading, I get ahead of myself and think you are going to say they get their food from God, but oops... it's the caucasian again.

Irma...you have many relatives like I do.....OK....so look in their refrigerator....the milk, cheese and yogurt in there came from the caucasian.....OK....keep on looking....there is the meat....that came from the caucasian......then go to their freezer.....the frozen foods.....that came from the caucasian.....so unless they have gardens which is a rarety...then there is nothing false about black Americans similar to "baby birds".....BUT, THAT CAN CHANGE. Little Abraham plans are for land establishment in 5 countries in Africa..that Black Americans can set up their own government where they can grow their own food....and made completely independent of their former slavemasters...the caucasian.....and that will make Black Americans a free people and not have brains like baby birds.

You would think that, Steve....but the defects of my people caused from American chattel slavery did a number on us....to the point that most Black Americans ironically fashion out caucausians as GOD.

Thanks to the history of Jim Jones, we now know for sure that zebras should be led a zebra....and elephants should be led by another elephant.....and geese should be led by another geese....and black Americans should be led by another black american.

In your last reply Jamal I see some truth. But there is still that word "most". And that brings us to the question of redemption, which comes first, the individual or the collective.

Hello Jamal,

You got some things right. You said that an elephant should lead another elephant and that is right.

For instance, God rise up Prophet Mohammed who was an Arab man for the Arabian people. Likewise, God rose up Prophet Harry who is a Black American man for the Black American people. Yet, you are led by the Arabian people's ways and customs because you embrace their Islamic religion and their Arab prophet, Prophet Mohammed, am I right.

In other words, you should allow yourself to be led by God chosen Prophet Harry. I am Black America's first genuine prophet that would lead us into sovereignty. Is not sovereignty what you want?

So, I am giving you the same logic that you are giving to others. You should govern your self by this same logic as well.

You must give up the religion of Islam. You have your own religion LIFE. You have your own prophet, Prophet Harry. And, we are going to become a sovereign nation on a fertile portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders.

Surely you are blind, deaf and dumb as the rest of my Black American people are.

I am the way, and besides me, there is no other way that Black Americans could ever become a real people in this world.

I said that because you are definitely wrong about Black Americans going to Africa. That was Mr. Marcus Garvey ignorant idea because he blindly thought that Black Americans were African people.

Jamal, Black Americans are not African people. Black Americans are a new race of people that came into existence on this continent 500 years ago when plantation slavery began and White American men consistently breeding themselves with their slaves. After 300 years of Whites breeding themselves with their slaves it produced a new race of people that have never existed any where else in the world before plantation slavery. So, Black Americans are not African people; therefore, we do not belong on the continent of Africa
So, when I say Black Americans are a new race of people I prove it by divine and common logic.

Black Americans are not going to Africa. Black Americans are going to inherit a fertile portion of this continent since it is here that Black Americans first came into existence as a new race of people. So, we are going to inherit a fertile portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to worship God, pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way. Our own way is by resolving nature's mysteries to be the most advanced race in the world and advancing a better life for other races that we would be entitle to have God crown as being the best steward of the world.
Right now the Caucasian people have the crown of being the best steward of the world. They look out for people, animals and the earth.

Anyway, what I am saying to you is to follow your own logic and allow God genuine prophet, Prophet Harry to lead you and accept your religion LIFE instead of sucking up to the Arabian people and their Prophet Mohammed along with their Islamic religion.

Do you not realize that you are not an Arab man? Ms. Siebra is just as ignorant because she thinks she is an Arabian woman.

What say you?

@Harry...what are you talking about...this blog is about Black Americans and baby birds. As far as my mentor, Elijah Muhammad....who was a Black American which is no Arab. So try to stick to the subject....it has NOTHING to do with religion.

Good Post Brother Jamal...that is why the Honorable Elijah Muhammad stressed that we must have our own farmlands. This reminded me of a discussion I had way back when I discussed how there are many kinds of apples, (granny smith, red delicious, and golden delicious) of Islam.

The Blackman/woman is the Apple of Allah's eye, starting out as a granny smith= bitter and having a name other than your own (Self), then learning, accepting, and applying the truth now a red delicious= free thinking, and finally a golden delicious = polished and refined more valuable than anything that the earth produces.

Yes one apple can spoil the whole bunch, yet one apple produced a mighty of orchards. So to the blackman/woman again you say you are WITH ALLAH, it is time for you to stop showing your weakness and show the sweetness of being with Allah. Then you will be accepted, and respected as blackmen/women and nothing less.

Hint to the wise: start out with humility, and then your presentation will be flawless.

BTW, No matter how delicious the food is if it is served on a garbage can lid you have killed the appetite!!!

Hello Jamal,

You said that Mr. Elijah Muhammad who was your mentor was no Arab man. I understand that Elijah and you are not Arab men. But, Elijah embraced the foundation and fundamentals that shape the Arabian people into Muslims and Mohammedans. It seems that Elijah really didn't know that he was a Black American man and not an Arab man. That means that Elijah should have wanted for himself what God gave to the Arabian people. Do you understand my point?

How can you Negro so-called Muslims consider your selves free when you Negroes walk in the same footsteps that the Arabian people have made? Islam is the mark of the Arabian people. For instance, one of the footsteps that the Arabian people made was introducing the religion of Islam to the world over. No other people had the religion of Islam before the Arabian people. Naturally, any race of people that follows the religion of Islam and are not Arabs are following in the footsteps that the Arabian people has hewed out for themselves by God blessings.

Why would you not want God to bless us Black Americans the same way so that we can hew out our own footsteps? Why it is that we must have the religion of the Arabian people and not have our own religion LIFE and prophet, Prophet Harry? Why must we have Prophet Mohammed when we are not Arabian people?

So, as you could see my comments are not about religion. My comments are about having our own of everything that clearly would mark the fact that we are free.

Black Americans depends on the Caucasian for food because of our unique beginning. Black Americans did not have the beginning as other races had. Black Americans were specifically brought into existence to be slaves for White Americans. So, Black Americans did not face the challenges that other races faced that nature would hurl at a people. The challenges that other race faced was overcoming the natural obstacles that nature hurls as resistance to hander a people from moving forward.

For instance, the Indians did not do as well as the Europeans did advancing in life. It was evident that the Indians were no match against White Americans, am I right. White Americans slaughtered the Indians, am I right. Black Americans did not face these natural challenges because we were born into slavery and bred to be slaves of White American people.

However, I am the way out, and besides me, there is no other way that Black Americans could ever become a real people in this world. Everything that I say is true and everything that I say that is going to happen is going to happen. Black Americans are going to inherit a fertile portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders.
White Americans will be hard-pressed but they will come to appreciate and be happy that we are truly free and sovereign. In addition, since White Americans are our relatives we will have a strong alliance.

What say you?

Hello Siebra,

I do not think that you understand the point that Jamal is making. He said that everything Black Americans get they must go to White America to get it. Well, did not Elijah Muhammad go to White America to get his farmlands? So, how did what Elijah did constitute Black Americans having our own? Mr. Elijah Muhammad was not a very bright man. If Elijah was a bright man he would have rejected Mr. Fard Muhammad to lead him since Mr. Fard Muhammad was not the same man as Elijah was. Mr. Fard Muhammad was as much a foreigner to Elijah as a Chinese or Japanese man would have been in the same circumstances. Am I making any sense?

In addition, the farmlands Elijah brought from White America is still ultimately belongs to White Americans. So, purchasing farmlands is hardly an indication of Black Americans being free and sovereign. I do not think you all know and understand what it is to be free and sovereign in a country of your own since we have never been a free people.

It took the children of Israel 30 years to understand that they were not free as long as they were in the power and influences of Egypt that constantly shaped the lives of the children of Israel and the Israelites could not do anything about it.
You so-called Muslim Negroes are just as ignorant as the children of Israel were and the so called Black Christians are.

To go anywhere as a people we must start out having our own understanding of God, our own prophet, our own religion and our own country.

I am the way.

What say you?

You are one silly rabbit Harry...

Hello Siebra,

Are you criticizing me because I said that Elijah was not a very bright man? You know for yourself that Elijah was not a bright man to believe that by buying farmlands from White America with in White America that somehow Elijah and the so-called ignorant Muslims would become a nation within a nation.

So, please explain why I am a silly rabbit to you.

What say you?

Saint...excellent idea...will have to make a separate blog about it, though......it would be an interesting statistic...let me think of how the wording would look.

Irma...I understand about being in denial...it is a condition that many of our people find themselves so do not worry about it. There is salad in my refrigerator..it comes from the white man. There is broccoli in my refrigerator...it too comes from the white man....nothing to do with religion or individualism or collective-ism...it plain and simply comes from the caucasian. There is spinach in my refrigerator and it comes from the white man. Once a person get out of denial and face the truth, THEN THEY CAN LEARN SOMETHING.

Sis. Siebra...good analogy with the apples....as far as the humility is concerned, let me offer you a coin....with 2 sides: There is the side that deals with arrogance and proudness....no doubt, you point of garbage can be taken. Then on the other side is envy and jealousy which is just as awful and distasteful as the garbage. My stance on this is that a person skilled and able should not have to apologize to the laymen about their well-deserved skill that they earned with study, hardwork and achievement. Especially, when in the Holy Quran, it speaks of the 3 classes of man; the 3rd being the elect. Which goes back to the days when Messenger Elijah Muhammad was living. He tried desperately for the educated, learned and skilled to join the Nation of Islam. As fast as the few educated would join, there were the envious and jealous muslims that would criticize and humiliate them, eventually drive them out. They would use words to them like...."we do not need your education...we will be re=educated in the hereafter...so forget all that devil's education....all your education don't mean nothing....our leader and teacher is uneducated and look how wise he has become." Yet, when the messenger got sick, he went to the educated doctors. What I am suggesting, is that one must look at both sides of a coin to look at each viewpoints. Achievement should not be rewarded with apology.

In conclusion, if a dear friend of yours was in a terrible car accident and they hit their head on the dashboard, think of your choices. Say, your friends head injury was very serious. Shall you seek the finest neurological surgeon you could find. Shall, you worry about his demeanor, his cologne, his manner of speech or his height.....or would you concern yourself with his ability to provide quality medical treatment on your friend and make them better ? Remember, envy and jealousy is a killer.

I see Jamal again, you will not answer the question put to you. HUH.

But it is good a SCIENTIST can spell DENIAL.

Steve....as you are well aware the number 1 comes before any other number....so, what is your question. First, there was the CREATOR...which counts for 1 from nothing. Now, from this 1(man) came other 1's liken to the first 1. We call 1 the individual. In the Holy Quran, it teaches God created all things in pairs. So time 'LATER" came woman. This woman belonged to the same group as man. This is the beginning of the original man.....which is thousands of years before the existance of the caucasian.....THAT PUTS THE INDIVIDUAL BEFORE THE GROUP.

Getting back to the blog....it is the group that creates strength for the individual. And the group of black Americans depend on the caucasian to harvest the grain..process the grain into cereal....package the grain....label the box of grain then ship the grain to market ......and make the cereal available for the hungry mouths of black Americans much like the BABY BIRDS.

Hello Steve,

I encourage Jamal that he should appropriately and intelligently respond to all questions.

However, Jamal's point is that Black Americans gets their sustenance from White America.

The concern to you Steve before you ask your question is Jamal right or is he wrong.

What say you?

Steve.....you are asked to stick to topic and not get personal.

Hello Jamal,

My question to you is how credible could you be promoting and advocating complete independence of Black Americans when you depend on the Arabian people for your religious guidance when you are not an Arab man?

Do you not think that you should take the beam out of your eye before you take the splinter out of the eyes of Black Americans?

Do you not think that Black Americans should have our own of everything even producing our own foods as you said then having the religion of the Arabian people and White Americans providing our foods?

The gist of your blog is about complete independence or sovereignty of Black Americans, am I right.

What say you?

What I think, Harry, is that the baby birds are like you...only that bird is smarter since when grown up to fly from the nest...AT LEAST THE BIRD WILL FETCH FOOD FOR ITSELF....BUT YOU, GROWN...STILL DEPEND ON THE CAUCASIAN FOR FOOD.

Okay, I will stick to topic. You Jamal make things that produce power, and power produces food and runs the refrigerator that keeps it from perishing. And you are not Caucasian. Harry is a retired contractor and used to make houses or whatever. And Harry is not Caucasian.

Hello Steve,

I think that what you are saying is incorrect and this is why.

You are desperately trying to make Jamal wrong and in so doing you are making yourself a fool.

To make Jamal wrong that Black Americans depends on White America for our sustenance by saying that Jamal produces power which runs the refrigerator to keep our food from perishing and that I am a retired construction general contractor and Jamal and I are not Caucasian what you are saying is that we Black Americans are subjugated people by White Americans and that is precisely what Jamal is saying in his analogy of the birds.

So, I come back to the question I asked you Steve. Is Jamal right or is he wrong when he says that Black Americans depends on White America for our survival the same as the children of Israel depending on Egypt for their survival before the coming of Moses.

What say you?

Hello Jamal,

You said this, " What I think, Harry, is that the baby birds are like you..."

All 41 million Black Americans are like the baby bird analogy and not just me.
The entire population of the children of Israel was also like the baby bird analogy and Moses is included because they all were depending on Pharaoh for their sustenance until the Exodus occurred.

The experience in the desert is when they depended upon God and themselves, am I right. The same experience Black Americans are going to undergo.

You treat me as an enemy but I am your prophet and your friend. You need to stop criticizing me and understand the things that I am saying. Everything that I say is true and everything that I say is going to happen.

For instance, when I tell you that you cannot have the religion of Islam because you are not an Arab man is true because it is rational. And you are going to return the religion of Islam to the Arabian people who are the rightful owners.
Not only you will do this; but, Siebra and Mr. Farrakhan are also going to return the religion of Islam to the Arabian people. Had Elijah been alive today I would be instructing him as well to return to religion of Islam to the Arabian people.
You all have not come to grip as yet that since God did not rise up Prophet Mohammed out of the loins of Black Americans then Islam cannot be our divine and legitimate religion.
Our religion is LIFE and it is God that gave me this religion for us since God anointed me as Black America's first genuine prophet that would lead us into sovereignty on a fertile portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders.

You have the story of Moses as a reference point to compare to Black Americans. So, you all are not exactly ignorant to the truth that I say. Am I making any sense?

What say you?

Hello Harry,

The word Caucasian itself is meaningless therefore any theory employing the word is equally meaningless. So in a strict sense Jamal's and your theory is not wrong, just meaningless.

Hello Steve,

Since you say that the word Caucasian is meaningless and at the same time the word Caucasian is still in use today tells me that I am dialoguing with an irrational idiot.

You just can't decide unilaterally to strip words from the English-language at your whim, stupid.

I cannot continue this stupid dialogue.

Hello Harry,

That the word is still in use does not make it meaningful. That you believe it is meaningful means only that you've been brainwashed and don't even realize it. There is a reason for the brainwashing Harry. It's called divide and conquer.

This blog teaches the sad condition of black Americans. It is of no concern of mine what Steve or any other caucasian have to say of the word caucasian trying to distract from the condition we Black Americans find ourselves in....only to point out that we do not have to remain in this condition. It is my aspirations and divine purpose to change this condition. Notice, that there are no black Americans on BIA able to credibly dispute this sad condition only to veer off in to some rediculous tangent which add no merit to their intelligence. When a people depends on another for food they are far from being trully free.

Now, we can go from there.

But if you prefer not to hear my thoughts on the matter, give the word and I will leave your blogs.

Steve, for two or more people to have an intelligent discussion there must be some "GIVENS". For one, the established frame of reference is Websters' dictionary. If you want to come up with your own dictionary then do so. According to the dictionary usage The word Caucasian is very widely used in the US to refer to people of European origin or people who are White. Just because a person wants to refer to themselves outside of definition that does not make it so....In this blog, we speak of the foster parents being the caucasian.

I agree it is widely used, and here is the reason why. It is a tool used to divide. Much as the words Democrat and Republican. And it works. You consider the black and the white to be divided, you have bought into the idea, and you consider the blacks to be disadvantaged, and while I agree that the legacy of slavery continues, in the poverty ridden inner city areas especially. But my solution is to resist this division and address what I consider the real issue, and this is poverty. The solution to poverty is number one, to resist the expenditures of war, and use the money saved for urban renewal. Now it is your prerogative to see black Americans as separate from white Americans, but to my mind that is to say the slave master is correct. I don't consider the slave master to be correct, and I do not name myself white, Caucasian, Democrat, Republican, or any other term of division.

Hello Steve,

Steve, God has offered sovereignty to Black Americans the same as when God offered the Exodus to the children of Israel.
God offered sovereignty to Black Americans on a fertile portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders when I was anointed as Black America's first genuine prophet.
God offered the Exodus (sovereignty) to the children of Israel when God anointed Moses. Do you see the correlation?

Now, I said all that to say this. Do you all think that I and Black Americans would be so stupid to turn down God offer to have our own and stay in this subjugated condition?

So, do you think that Black Americans are that stupid especially with me in front of Black Americans who are my own people that I love to try and fix the division and suppression of Black Americans by White America?

No, and hello no I don't want to fix any issue between Black Americans and White Americans. God has already fixed the issue permanently since Black Americans are going to inherit a fertile portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders.

What say you?

Steve, the individual has no strength UNLESS he is God Himself...this is why it is important to find the group you fall into, otherwise, you are singing to the choir. And it turns out that everyone belongs to some group whether they want to admit it or not. I may the wisest person around but unless, I find the group that I reside, there are no blessings because only the One God is independent...everyone else is dependent on someone else. But, as a group, there is strength, blessings and power which is what little Abraham is about...to provide power to the Black American group. And this blog points out that our group is weak and powerless but we can gain power with the truth which can set us free...and this blog points out some of that truth.

The mind and spirit are more important than the body when speaking of what group we fall into. The body is insignificant in that sense.

Hello Steve,

For my own clarity what do you suppose Jamal is talking about that everyone belongs to a group of people or a specific race of people?
Do you suppose that he is talking about the mind and spirit of the person, stupid?

Since the person's mind and spirit is a part of the person's body then the mind and spirit of that person will still fall into a group of people that that person racially belongs to, am I right.

So, what that hell is your damn point that the mind and spirit is more important than the body? You just want to argue and complicate matters as dumb NEGRO would do. However, there is an excuse for the dumb Negroes. But, what is your excuse?

For your ancestors not to have undergone plantation slavery as Black Americans ancestors have you are surely one dumb White man. Your thinking is absolutely crazy.

What say you?

Hello Harry,

In answer to your question in your first sentence above (just to be clear) I suppose that Jamal is talking nonsense.

Hello Steve,

If you suppose that Jamal is talking nonsense then explain how he is talking nonsense, stupid.
You just can't say he is talking nonsense without a rational explanation to back yourself up, knucklehead.

You are talking nonsense. You said that the mind and spirit are more important than the body. But, even if the mind and spirit are more important than the body does not the body still fall into a group of people that the person identifies with as his race?

So, please explain why the body with the mind and spirit would not fall into a group of people as Jamal stated?

If you are going to continue dialogue and like an idiot I'm just going to stop. I hate foolish dialogues.

With an ignorant and irrational mind such as yours you want to educate Black children. You are plum out of your mind.

What say you?

Harry, with an IQ of 68 I consider you to be very bright. I think you just pretend to not understand.

After the caucasian had JESUS of Nazereth killed, they told the African origin people that he was alive in mind and spirit. This has always been the way of the European...to push a mind and spirit philosophy on our people to keep black people absorbed in that which could avail us NOTHING. It is the physical that generates the spirit. When you have the physical body; you have the physical AND the spirit. But, when you have the spirit...there is ONLY the spirit. Julius Ceasar is here in spirit as long as people remember him and and moved by what he did. Elvis Presley is here in spirit...and long as people want to mimick him and act like him. But, that is ALL WE GET.

The spirit needs no food but the physical body needs FOOD. Which is what this blog is all about. Black Americans are a physical nation of people without a home or land and we need FOOD....which is why black Americans are like BABY BIRDS.

I understand your position Jamal. Yours too Harry.

@Jamal, I don't think that is a good ad to get people to follow you as the human body does require food if they want to live...after the Jim Jones' being the lastmass savior's members ended up dead, I don't think this idea that all food comes from the White man is going to be a winner fro anyone not having a death wish. (smile)

CAN'T WAIT FOR YOU TO SHOW ME HOW WRONG I AM ON THIS ONE. ..

Jamal, because I am an individual, I make my own decissions which makes you totally wrong about where the products in my refrig come from...

oh you have chosen to ignor e all together wher I keep saying my foods come from...which is your choice to do what is best to make your life better. (smile)

@Siebra, is it true that having and have and going to have some day are all different? (smile)

"I" is totally different then W-E, Y-O-U, U-S ?!? ...(smile)

...and, I shall leave with my thoughts about FREE / FREEDOM...for and to me a free person is one who can set goal (s) for themselves and make / have their goal (s) met. (smile)