(Internatl Film) Moolaade': Raises Crucial Question About Female Circumcision --- Purification or Mutilation?

Ingles' Ingles' mi hablo Ingles... no Afri-Caan!!!

Sorry, guys... I thought this is the film with the English subtitles. Ha! My bad.

you have'nt quit yet with your de*****ization or deNigeriation of African women yet?

This film by a Muslim; is not calling the 3-4 thousand year africanFemale and africanMale cultural purification a Traditional Norm.

He does not call it what the paganChristian calls circumcision or mutilation.............

even your Nigerians in America, what, christianNigerians?

state,

[Fahtma, U.S. educated Sudanese mother of four---
“Then one day, when my father was away, my mother took me for the circumcision. I did not expect it to hurt so much. It made me faint, and lost a lot of blood. For two weeks, Nene, my sisters, Idrissa and the women neighbors cooked and sang and danced for me until my father returned home. Until I was healed, I was not permitted to eat with a man which made Baba(herFather) suspicious after I had not come to the dinner table for many nights.”

“What has happened here?” he said. “Nene told him the truth. Baba did not yell or respond in any way at first. He asked to see me, and he told Nene and me that if this is what we wanted, he would accept it and be happy for me. It is a woman’s affair,” he said.

[Kadiatou Diallo mother of Amadou Diallo from her book… My Heart Will Cross This Ocean - pg.74]

“I know personally that it is a tribal right and need not to be couched in those terms-mutilation is a western twist on things. If people within that culture respect that as a right of passage and its not violating their health, then it is not a violation of human rights.”

again, this is a female issue-----------------and STOP the Islaam innuendoGossip!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ah.... gracious Senora`......

@ Senora Cynt,
Denada. Unfortunately, the only problem now is that the person who started uploading the clips with the English subtitles, didn't bother to continue. Lazy folk, eh! ((Lol))

yes... I notice.... oh well... I'll just turn the sound down and watch it....

oh well .... maybe it's for the best.... that way the deniggralization will end.... ey?

@ Sister Cynt,

I love watching movies from other countries, especially Nigeria. It's really not necessary to know or understand the language spoken because what I've found is that just following them from beginning to end --- the body language and gestures --- TELL so much MORE. Ha!


@ Sister Irma,

Honor killings are so common over the Globe and I've read about cases in N. America, too! I read about a honor killing of a young lady 2010 where the brother helped his father to kill his younger sister because she was disgracing their culture. The brother and the father drove the girl, the aunt, and one other relative to a secluded area of a lake, locked them in a car, and pushed the car into the water, drowning all of the women (the two other women were trying to protect the girl).

Since you're letting me know that your interests are versatile, I'll post some of these things when I read about them. Of course these men should understand that the laws hear in North America don't support their honor killings, eh?

my dear Irma and jenFad, I hate to comment on a commentator but you have asked for information

From the dawn of 3-4,000+ years of Monotheistic Thought, Mosaic Law; through the Laws of AlQur'aan

---- fornication, adultery and other s*xualDecadent deviations, perversions and community destroyers have been combated with the Laws of Those Societies----

if a male/female is involved in fornication, adultery and other s*xualDecadent deviations, perversions and community destroyers History and the community Laws of many nations requires that the Guilty---- parties be stoned or sent to their maker..................in History of desert areas they had no guns, lethal injection or much twine --- so stones do the job.

the european paganChristian de*****ative commentators like to call this "honor" killings---again, as with the conclusion of definitions that jenFad acknowledged about the above subject -- IT IS IN THE DEFINITIONS and THE DEFINER

In AlIslaam there is no such thing as "Honor Killings"---irma

So why are there so called "Holy Wars" which has been going on for thousands of years in the middle east?

again sorry jenFad,

a commentator on another subject

Holy war may refer to?

A religious war led with an exceptionally high grade of religious feeling, such as; The Crusades, 11th, 12th, and 13th-century religiously sanctioned military campaigns waged by much of Christian Europe against the Muslim Middle East.

or

Definition of HOLY WAR

: a war or violent campaign waged by religious partisans to propagate or defend their faith

See holy war defined for English-language learners »

First Known Use of HOLY WAR------1639----

----again a european paganChristian context----the paganGreeks and paganRomans started "holyWar"---with land conquest and slaver/subjugation for theirGawds?

----and then the catholics-protestants-calvinists-and other european paganChristian thinkers had their "holyWar" for slavery/subjugation of THINKING of theirOwn--3inOneGawds?

---and history then gives us the "holyWar" for gold/land against the nativeAmerican unHoly heathens?

so I conclude from the definition and history; that Their have never been Holy Wars generated FROM the middleEast...................Holy Wars are a paganEuropean concept..............

Thanks Jen, your first blog on tis caused not only this your second one, but in between Siebra did a post on htis issue about ow the female is look on...from theoutside world. Now I will try to sow an example of customs of others being judged from tehout side (and this is someting I have brought up before)

WHEN THE CHRISTIN MISSIONALY WENT TO AFRICA AND FIRST SAW AN AFRICAN CUSTOM OF A RITUAL TAHT WERE USED TO MOVE THE BOY INTO ADULT HOOD THEY DEEMED IT ANTI-CHIRSTIAN AND BANNED IT...

THIS IS BEFORE IT WAS BROUGHT TO AMERICA AND RENAMED 'BUNGY JUMPING'...THE SAME EXACT THING BUT UNDER A NEW NAME AND NEW MANAGEMENT. (NUP)

DIPPING ONES BODY INTO WATER, RIVERS WAS A WAY OF GIVING THANKS TO THE RIVER GOD IN AFRICA...THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF YEARS BEFORE CHRIST...UNDER THE NAME TODAY IT IS CALLED BAPTISM...NEW NAME UNDER NEW MANAGEMENT, RIGHT AGAIN LOL! (SMILE)

Jen, it is a learning tool so please keep these coming. thanks (smile) When I saw something like this on tv, I believe it was a Law and Order program it sowed Muslims from the middle-east so this blog can go to show how wide spread this custom is. example, where I live we have more middle-easterns than African Muslims.We have a lot of Shieks West Indians who own the 711s and are our dentist...(and who I can't tell one from the other in nationalities)

It is nothing here or sacramento to hear about honor killings or killing men for trying to date a female already promised. This kind of info is so very important so keep these coming. (smile)