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What are the two things that keep Black Americans just where we are mentally and physically?

What are the two things that keep Black Americans just where we are mentally and physically?

Harry Watley · Friday, October 4th 2013 at 5:34AM · 804 views
The first thing is the desire to be sovereign free in a country of our own we don't have. The second is detaching ourselves from the Jewish Jesus and the Arabian Mohammed because Jesus and Mohammed are not from us and we are not from them am I right.

We talk about everybody and what they are doing. We talk about ObamaCare. We talk about all sorts of things, but never do we talk about ourselves and future unless one of us gets shot and killed. Then we start whining and complaining about how badly we are treated here in White America.

When a people don’t talk about themselves and celebrate are a mentally and physically dead people.

When you know that the things I say are true and you know that it’s true then you know that I am not crazy because crazy people don’t talk truth.

For instance, you all have never heard that prophets are racially different and that Black Americans are going to come into our own country in my life-time such revelations would never come out of the mouth of a crazy person. And, when you hear these truths and distances yourselves from me you are actually one of my reverse followers.

For example, Ms. Thomasina, Ms. Jen, Siebra, David, Saint, Robert, Ms. Bride, Helen and host of you all are followers of me and the truth I say in reverse. The only way you all can clear yourselves is to show clear and convincing evidence that I am wrong or trump the things I say and that you all can’t do and because of your self hatred, jealousy and ignorance you all follow me in reverse. On the hand, if you all were not ignorant, jealousy and self hating your all would be following me by getting closer to me.

Prophets are God’s first responders. The Jewish Jesus was the first responder to the House of Israel.
Mohammed was first responder to the Arabian people. And, Prophet Harry is Black America’s first responder.

When you all were ignorant you all accepted the Jewish Jesus and the Arabian Mohammed, but now that I’ve shown you all that you can’t have Jesus and Mohammed because they are not our kinds and that it is I you must accept you can’t do it show a great deal of stupidity.

With me all the stars lines-up, but with Jesus and Mohammed the stars are out of line because Jesus and Mohammed are not Black Americans as we are.

So, our lack of desire to be sovereign free and our refusal to set the Jewish Jesus and the Arab Mohammed down are the two slices of bread that makes us a sandwich the other people takes big bites out of us.

For instance, besides White America you have Koreans, Chinese, Arabs and others we hands over our monies to because they serve us.

Like it was with Moses and the Children of Israel not many Black Americans are going to make into our Promise Land.

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Harry Watley Wilson Salem, NC

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Sylvainy R Friday, October 4th 2013 at 1:59PM

you Harry

powell robert Friday, October 4th 2013 at 8:46PM


WHOA, 68 IQ redundant, RETARDANT-------

again, your "blackPeopleWhiteAmericans" is paganCHRISTIAN.........racist NONSENSE

I, robertPowell, am a Muslim............NEVER to follow or agree with paganRACISM......

SO Harry and Watley are the two things that keep Black Americans just where we are mentally and physically?

and you are yourMIND only ----- like the billyGrahman, revFatBack inspired and hearing voices holyGHOSTERS-------maybe even the newtown, Denver, USNavy yard, whiteHOUSE variety.....

powell robert Saturday, October 5th 2013 at 10:06AM


WHOA, selfProfessed 68 IQ redundant, RETARDANT--FILTHY, VILE and EVIL writer.....

your definition of MUSLIM,
------has NOTHING to do with the Hebrew, Aramaic and Arabic Languages............!
------has NOTHING to do with History, Scholarship and Science..........................!

just your holyGHOST, paganChristian NONSENSE..............

Muslim
------is an English Transliteration of a Hebrew, Aramaic and Arabic word that MEANS
------one who is Practices the Peace of the Creator AlSalaam..............

again,
BIA asks the Members to SHATTER the oldeIGNORANT Stereotypes of the past ---- YOU..

I do not mock you,
------------I CORRECT your unEDUCATED nonSENSE..
------------I CORRECT YOUR mental and physical DISABILITIES of yourMIND only foolishness.....





Harry Watley Saturday, October 5th 2013 at 11:21AM

Robert,

My definition of Muslim has to do with history. History is chronological timing and the word Muslim came into being during the time of Mustafa Mohammed, the prophet.

Mohammed gave the newly converted Arabians the name Muslim to distinguish them from the pagan worshipers or unbelievers. The word Muslim means any Arabian that submits himself to ONE GOD and God can not be compared to anything we have seen or haven’t seen and that God begets not nor is God begotten.

So, the word Muslim did not come from the Hebrew or the Aramaic language. If you thought you were right you would have said what it means in Hebrew. The word Muslim was invented by Prophet Mohammed and it means any Arab submitting himself to the belief in one God.

powell robert Saturday, October 5th 2013 at 1:52PM


and the Creator of Adaam(as) created Adaam as a MUSLIM,
-------Thru---- Nuh/Ibraheem/Musa/Isa--- thru Mohamed(SAW)

In Hebrew Language ---- Muslim means
------one who is Practices the Peace of the Creator AlSalaam..............

In Aramaic Language ---Muslim means
------one who is Practices the Peace of the Creator AlSalaam..............

In Arabic Language -----Muslim means
------one who is Practices the Peace of the Creator AlSalaam..............

At -O- TIMELINE---[creation of Universe]
---------Muslim means------one who is Practices the Peace of the Creator AlSalaam.

At -2013- TODAY
---------Muslim means------one who is Practices the Peace of the Creator AlSalaam.

At -O- TIMELINE ---END of CREATED
---------Muslim means------one who is Practices the Peace of the Creator AlSalaam.

is that clear enough for your 68 IQ redundant retardant mind.............?



Harry Watley Saturday, October 5th 2013 at 11:07PM

Robert,

You are a liar and you are stupid when you say that God created Adam a Muslim. Firstly, Adam is a Jewish man and his wife Eve is a Jewish woman. We know that Adam and Eve are a Jewish couple because all the descendents of Adam and Eve are Jewish people. The last know descendent of Adam and Eve is Jesus the Christ and he was Jewish coming out of the house of King David.

The word Muslim is Arabic and Arabic is Arabian and Arabian people are racially different from Jewish people.

You are stupid to connect the Jews and Arabs as one people. You are stupid and have no common sense. You are an idiot!

powell robert Sunday, October 6th 2013 at 9:19AM


and jews speak Hebrew-----

you selfProfessed 68 IQ retarded mentalMidget....................

powell robert Sunday, October 6th 2013 at 12:46PM


FILTHY TRASH racistlyIGNORANT-----writerHarry

For the 1,299,888,231st time----I do NOT agree..............

and I gave you FACTS:

1. What Muslim Means in the Language of the Creator of Adaam(as)

2. Who Muslims are

and

3. that YOU are a BIG selfProfessed 68 IQ retarded mentalMidget........

powell robert Monday, October 7th 2013 at 8:54AM


YOU CANNOT READ the ABOVE?

68 IQ keeps you from FULL English READING ability----go to the YMCA and get a 4th Grade Volunteer to READ ---- again............

and the Creator of Adaam(as) created Adaam as a MUSLIM,
-------Thru---- Nuh/Ibraheem/Musa/Isa--- thru Mohamed(SAW)

In Hebrew Language ---- Muslim means
------one who is Practices the Peace of the Creator AlSalaam..............

In Aramaic Language ---Muslim means
------one who is Practices the Peace of the Creator AlSalaam..............

In Arabic Language -----Muslim means
------one who is Practices the Peace of the Creator AlSalaam..............

At -O- TIMELINE---[creation of Universe]
---------Muslim means------one who is Practices the Peace of the Creator AlSalaam.

At -2013- TODAY
---------Muslim means------one who is Practices the Peace of the Creator AlSalaam.

At -O- TIMELINE ---END of CREATED
---------Muslim means------one who is Practices the Peace of the Creator AlSalaam.

is that clear enough for your 68 IQ redundant retardant mind.............?

Harry Watley Monday, October 7th 2013 at 9:23AM

Robert,

God did not create Adam as a Muslim because the name Adam came for the Jewish Moses, but the name Muslim came from the Arab Prophet Mohammed.

Jews and Muslims are two different people; can’t you see that much for your self?

powell robert Monday, October 7th 2013 at 9:36PM


Adaam-------the Hebrew/Aramaic and Arabic word--------- MEANING Mankind..............

All People Alive are born from Adaam(as) and the SAME---The Family of Adaam(as)

Harry Watley Tuesday, October 8th 2013 at 5:52AM

Robert,

Stupid-ass no one else in history has used the name Adam but Moses who was a Hebrew/Jew. Don’t you comprehend that idiot? Mohammed followed behind Moses and used the name Adam, but spelled it with two a’s.

Moses was giving his people a motivational speech to lift their spirits by telling them how God created the Jewish people stupid.

Don’t you see that all the descendents of Adam and Eve beginning with Cain and Abe to Jewish were all Jewish people?

So, how the hell can all people be born from the Jewish people? Are you stupid?

I have a 68 IQ and I can figure out these simple things, but you can’t!

powell robert Wednesday, October 9th 2013 at 9:10PM


Adaam, Adam, adham, Musa, Moses, Moises
-----are ENGLISH----TRANSLITERATIONS(sounds) of WORDS from Aramaic, Hebrew and Arabic LANGUAGES -----

Aramaic, Hebrew and Arabic LANGUAGES
----- are written right to left VS European languages written left to right

Aramaic, Hebrew and Arabic LANGUAGES
----- have different ALPHABETS than ALL europeanLanguages.............

YES, your selfProfessed 68 IQ retardism is WORSE than simple it is 2/3 NORMAL Adam.........

learn something sometime, or go to the Y and have a volunteer READ for your IGNORANT RETARDISM.......there is a cure for your MORONIC understanding............


Harry Watley Thursday, October 10th 2013 at 1:02AM

Robert,

We are talking about who is Adam stupid. We are not talking about TRANSLITERATION idiot!

I said that Adam is a Jewish man and Eve Adam’s wife was a Jewish woman. Moses was a Jewish man telling his Jewish people how God created the Jewish people and we being as stupid as we are thinks that all of humanity came from Jewish people. Jewish people were not the first people God created.

The issue who Adam is and I am telling that Adam is a Jewish man and Eve was his wife. You said that all of mankind came from Adam and you are wrong. Mankind did not come from Jewish people.

The first children that Adam and Eve had were Jews. Cain and Abe were two Jewish boys stupid.

You are not an analytical thinker. An analytical thinker would not ague with facts. Jewish Moses invented Adam and Eve. Adam and Eve’s first children were two Jewish boys named Cain and Abe. How can you not analytically conclude that Adam was a Jewish man? You are stupid to believe all your life before meeting me that all humanity came from a Jewish couple, Adam and Eve.

You have been wrong all you life and you don’t have the courage to admit it!

powell robert Saturday, October 12th 2013 at 1:01PM


that is why you are 68IQ Retardant!
--- you cannot NORMALLY complete Reading and Comprehension of English

if you are UNAWARE of different Languages and Alphabets of things --YOU USE daily

you are minimal 68IQ.........2/3rds NORMAL

look at yourWriting
----"Adam and Eve had were Jews, two Jewish boys named Cain and Abe, Jewish Moses invented Adam and Eve; You have been wrong all you life"

NONSENSE --- just like your SISTER in 'blackMESS'---------

siebra, posts ---- "THE DIARY OF MALCOLM X (NOVEMBER 2013)"

a man named AlHajj AbdulMaleek AsShabazz died in 1965----he had been a NOBODY xLetter...

2013- 1965 = 48 YEARS ago.........what DIARY?

I will make the claim since BIA is an African American Family site and President Baraaka Hussein Obama is an American of African Parentage ----- 'black' needs CHANGE.......



Harry Watley Saturday, October 12th 2013 at 2:27PM

Robert,

Is it true that Adam and Eve was a Jewish couple?
I said that Adam and Eve was a Jewish couple and I prove it when I showed you that all the descendents of Adam and Eve were Jews starting with Cain and Abe and ending with the Jewish Jesus.

You say NONSENSE, but you have not offered any evidence to the contrary! All that you are doing is talking bull-****! You are stupid!

Then you go on to talk about Malcolm X. He died ignorant because he did not know that prophets are racially different and therefore he had no business following behind Prophet Mohammed and the Arabian people since he was not Arabian himself. Every people must follow behind their own prophet who must be the same race as they are!

You know more than Malcolm knew because you have heard these divine revelations from me and I have said that I am Black America’s first genuine prophet.


powell robert Saturday, October 12th 2013 at 3:18PM


no
no
I am a descent of Adaam(as) and his wife Hawaah-Hawa(eve-bastardEnglish?)

You can start OFF by READING a Lecture by a Muslim of IRISH Ancestry, alive 2013......

Adaam & Hawa ((peace be upon them)

By: Mekaeel Maknoon
This paper is based on a lecture given at the Belfast Masjid in March 1997

Science says Adam& Hawa existed...

Islam teaches people to treat ones mother and father with honour and kindness in their capacity as parents. To this end, remembering one’s parents and imploring Allah’s peace and mercy upon them are acts of honour and great respect. Such a deference is more than due to humanity’s common ancestor. However, with so much emphasis in the educational institutions on trying to prove that humankind evolved from apes, people’s knowledge and awareness of the Almighty Originator, and His great and gracious act in creating Adam and Hawa, for whom there is little regard these days, has steadily dwindled. The question to be put is not so much, "What are the names of the first man and woman"? but, "Do we really have a common ancestor?" and "How much do I know about humanity’s common ancestors, Adam and Hawa?".

The religious and scientific answer to the first question is simply yes! On 11th January 1988, the Newsweek Magazine carried an article which stated that studies by molecular biologists of an international assortment of genes had put them on the trail of the mitochondrial Deoxyribonucleic Acid (DNA).

The studies were carried out on both black and caucasian women "with ancestors from Africa, Europe, the Middle East and Asia". Despite the fact that the women "were from widely different racial and geographical backgrounds", the geneticists "found that all had identical stretches of the mitochondrial DNA, which is inherited only from mothers and therefore not a mixture of parental genes". This has led them from a Qur’anic and Biblical perspective back to the idea of a common ancestor: "to a single women from whom we are all descended". The report went on to say, "most evidence so far indicates that Eve"..."was more likely a dark-haired, black skinned woman (who) lived in sub-Saharan Africa." It is believed that our common ancestor - African Eve - must has lived "between 100,000 and 200,000 years ago", and this is consistent with the findings related to Adam. This finding adds weight to the Biblical and Qur’anic statements about the existence of a Hawa (Eve), the mother of all humanity, who was not a product of an accident or chance in nature, but was created and fashioned by the Creator. Also, it is yet another piece of evidence for the authenticity of the Holy Qur’an, stating long before this discovery:
"The Revelation of this Book is from Allah, the Exalted in Power, Full of Wisdom... He created you (all) from a single Person:... created, (out of it) of like nature his mate... and from them twain scattered (like seeds) countless men and women" (S. 39:1,6: S: 4:1).

This passage was also telling the men of science that to progress their understanding about humanity’s common ancestor they must seek to establish Hawa’s origin and indeed humanity’s from a single individual, named Adam.

It is therefore not surprising to learn from an article in The Times on 23rd November 1995 that following a scientific study of the Y-chromosomes in a mixed- race group, Dr. Michael Hammer, a geneticist from the University of Arizona, was able to establish that all men do have a common ancestor "of African origin", who lived less than 200,000 years ago. the article went on to say "this opposed a theory that mankind evolved in different regions of the Old World from an earlier ancestor, Homo Erectus (apes)". What is now missing is for scientists to find the evidence which links Hawa to Adam, perhaps they will find the answer among the DNA of the bones, in particular, the lower ribs.

As regards the second question,

Science has very little to offer human beings who again, must resort to the Divine revelations to acquire deeper knowledge of their common ancestor. Even the fact that Hawa (Eve) was dark-skinned was already known to scholars of Islam. E.W. Lane, in his Arabic-English Lexicon, (Book 1, Part 2, p.661), says that the name Hawa (the Arabic equivalent of Eve) signifies "a brown colour, redness inclining to blackness or a colour intermixed with the blackish red dust like the rust of iron".

In short, she was black or, if you prefer, a dark-skinned women.

The creation of Eve: a sign and a phenomenon

The story of Adam is of universal significance not only because of what is related about him but also for what we can learn about his "mate". The name in the Torah to Adam's mate is Eve, there is no explanation how she acquired this name, whether from the Creator or Adam, it simply appeared at the beginning of Genesis, Chapter 4. According to Islamic Tradition, that same person is known by the Arabic name Hawa, and not Eve although again, this name does not appear anywhere in the Holy Qur'an. As regards the creation of Hawa, the information in the Torah can be summarised as follows: The LORD God said, "it is not good that man should be alone; I will make him an help meet" ....the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam... and He took one of his ribs... and made He a women... and brought her unto the man... and... Adam said,... "she shall be called woman" (Gen. 2:18,21-3)

The Holy Qur'an confirms that Hawa was indeed created out of Adam but is silent on the specific process used in her creation. It states: "O mankind! Reverence your Guardian-Lord Who created you from a single person, created, of like nature, his zaowja (wife/mate), and from them twain scattered (like seeds) countless men and women" (S. 4-:1).

Stephen Jay Gould, the Harvard paleontologist and essayist, say, ".. it makes us realise that all human beings, despite differences in external appearances, are really members of a single entity that's had a very recent origin in one place. There is a kind of biological brotherhood that's much more profound than we ever realised".

This is the very point that Allah has related in the Holy Qur'an, which evidently Mr Gould was not aware of, or perhaps, like many others, did not want to accept until it was endorsed by science. Do they not see though, how far modern science lags behind the teachings of the Holy Qur'an?

It is evident from the above stated Qur'anic verse and Torah that Hawa's creation is a phenomenon - she is the only women that was created from a man, but clearly not by the natural process that women would give birth. Her creation is significant, a sign and the second part of the three - part phenomenon of human creation. First was the creation of Adam, a human being who was made out of nothing, using only water and earth; second, the creation of a women (Hawa) as explained above, and third, the creation of a man - Isa(pbuh) - out of a women without the participation of a man. All three creations are on the same footing in being unique, evident reasons for faith in Allah, and were all made possible by only the commanding word "Be" from the Almighty, attesting His power and knowledge of the secrets of the heaven and the earth, and of what is revealed and concealed (S.3:59; 76:1-3).

In terms of religion and as a phenomenon of human creation, it is easy to understand the rank held by Hawa's creation. An unmarried women who conceives is open to all kinds of questions about the circumstances under which she became pregnant. In contrast, there is little that can be said where a women is formed out of the sole male human being in existence - that creation is undoubtedly a great feat at which humans should marvel.

In contrast to the Torah, the Holy Qur'an does not say that Hawa was created from Adam's rib, but says that she was made "of like nature" to him, and this fact is confirmed by reality and what is known about the human body. The biblical statement "God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam... and He took one of his ribs... and made He a women" (Gen. 2:18, 21-3), can be interpreted literally or as an allegory, the result however, in my view, is the same whichever interpretation is applied. This biblical notion, though no authenticated by the holy Qur'an, is supported by the following hadith. In the absence of any Qur'anic foundation one might argue that their authenticity is thus subject to a measure of doubt. Nevertheless, these historical sources state: Abu Hurairah (ra) relates that the Prophet Muhammad (saw) said: Treat women kindly. Woman has been created from a rib and the most crooked part of the rib is the uppermost. f you try to straighten it, you will break it and if you leave it, alone, it will remain crooked. So treat women kindly. (Bukhari and Muslim)

Another version is: A woman is like a rib; if you try and straighten it, you will break it and i you wish to draw benefit from it, you can do so despite its crookedness.

Another version is: Woman has been created from a rib and you cannot straighten her. If you wish to draw benefit from her, do so despite its crookedness. If you try to straighten her, you will break her and breaking her means divorcing her.

In Islam, women are not viewed biologically warped nor generally speaking of a criminal mentality (crooked), they are human beings of a similar nature (S. 4:1) to men and were also created "in the best of moulds" (S. 95:4). As already stated it may well be that an actual rib was take from Adam and then clothed with flesh in the formation of Hawa. This idea is Lamely acceptable in light of the following verse from the Holy Qur'an: Men we did create from quintessence (of clay), then We placed him as (a drop of) sperm in a place of rest, firmly fixed; then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood; the of the clot We made a (foetus) lump; then We made out of that lump bones and clothed with flesh; then We developed out if it another creature. So Blessed be Allah, the best to create. (S. 23:12-14)
This very detailed passage on human evolution is over one thousand four hundred years old, predating modern science. This passage identifies he power of the Creator in first creating Adam "from quintessance (of clay)" and then setting up the human reproductive process "in a place of rest, firmly fixed". Looking at this process one can see three primary stages;
a) from the sperm to the formation of bone.

b) clothing the bones with flesh. and

c) perfecting the process to create "another creature".
The reproductive process could not logically apply in every respect to Adam because, as a man, it is he who would have emitted the sperm and, judging by what is accepted to be the general nature of man's biological structure, he did not have a womb and there was no woman - no womb (a place of rest) - to receive it. The purpose of the the first stage of the reproductive process is he forming of the bones "in a place of rest", so if there is no womb but bones are already in existence and available, that first stage is unnecessary and, therefore, can be ignored (it is biologically inappropriate). However, the second and third stages could apply to the formation of Hawa. The ribs formed part of Adam's bone structure so by taking a rib the All-Powerful Creator could then, "clothed [it] with flesh; then... developed out of it another creature". There is further biblical evidence in support of the proposition that Allah has the power and does indeed create from mere bones in the following verse: The hand of the Lord was upon me (Prophet Ezekiel), and carried me out in the spirit of the Lord, and set me down in the midst of a valley which was full of bones,... lo, they were very dry. And He said unto me, Son of man, can these bones live? And I answered, O Lord God, thou knowest. Again, He said unto me, Prophesy unto these bones... So I prophesied as I was commanded: and as I prophesied there was a noise, and behold a shaking, and the bones came together, bone to his bone. And I beheld, lo, the sinew and the flesh came upon them, and the skin covered them above: but there was no breath in them... So I prophesied as He commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood upon their feet, an exceeding great army. (Ezek. 37:1-10)

One can quite clearly see in the above passages the final two stages in the reproduction process, the clothing of the bones at which stage they were still without life and then finally, their completion with the spirit being breathed into them so that they became living creatures, standing "upon their feet". This notion and possibly this story is confirmed in the following Qur'anic passage: (Take) the similitude of one who passed by a Hamlet, all in ruins to its roots. He said: "Oh! How shall Allah bring it (ever) to life, after (this) its death?" But Allah caused him to die for a hundred years, the raised him up (again). He said "How long didst thou tarry (thus)?" He said: "(Perhaps) a day or part of a day".

He said: "Nay, thou hast tarried thus ahundred years: But... look at thy donkey: and that we make of thee a sign unto the people, look further at the bones, how We bring them together and clothe them with flesh.. he said: "I know that Allah hath power over all thing" (S. 2:259)

The above passages from the Old Testament and the Holy Qur'an "(shows) clearly... that Allah hath power over all things" and could, on the basis of these demonstrations of His power, most probably have created Hawa out of the rib (bone) of Adam.

Whether the rib is real or allegorical, the fact remains that in the final analysis, "another creature", generally termed "woman", whose creation process differed from Adam and was unique, was formed of the same essence as he for a specific Divine purpose. Thus, Hawa's biology also composed water and clay that was moulded, "in the best of moulds" (S. 95:4), into a shape "of like nature" to Adam. Consequently, if viewed as an allegory, this notion of a "rib-created woman" should be interpreted positively using Divine purpose behind Hawa's creation as the basis. The Torah says "God said, 'it is not good that man should be alone; I will make for him an help meet'", and the Holy Qur'an speaks of humanity's "Guardian-Lord... (creating) from a single person, ...of like nature, his zaowja (wife/mate)". It is clear from both statements that the Creators intention was to create a person who would be a zaowja (wife) "of like nature", not surprisingly Adam, according to the Torah, named his "help meet" "woman", because he saw in her a person who was similar in her biological essence, spiritual make-up (with her own "breath of life" - soul - from the creator) and how she functioned psychologically - having much the same ability as he to acquire knowledge, reason, articulate and exercise free will to discriminate morally. On that basis an explanation could be that the rib is symbolic of the husband's duty to his wife and of the wife's relationship to her husband and the dominant aspect of her character. The notion that Hawa was in reality created from a rib taken from Adam's side also imply acceptance of the level of duty that is put upon husbands: namely to provide, maintain and protect their wives as part of their own selves (S. 4:34).

For Hawa and all women their position in marriage is also clarified by the fact hat the rib was taken from Adam's ide. The natural position of women, as wives, is to be at their husbands' side, to fit in with them while associating with them, and just as a man's rib, as part of his body, is subjected to and obedient to the man's will, so too must all "righteous women [be] devoutly (to their husbands), and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard" (S. 4:34).

To be a wife and a mother is no easy task and so Hawa and all women had to be especially equipped. Women have been given a greater intensity of emotions thus enabling them to be constant as a helper: always giving, caring to a fault - with her husband and children she sometimes shows them undeserved kindness, daring to pass through the doors of pain again and again - suffering great discomfort during pregnancy and the pangs at child birth - to present as a gift to husbands their ultimate treasures of pleasure in the guise of s*xual intercourse and children. Without the presence of this emotional quality in women it would be more difficult for men "to draw (the above or any other) benefit from them", while making women more intuitive, having this capacity for greater intensity of emotions also carries with it a corresponding greater intensity of desires. Therefore, of far reaching importance to women (indeed it is relevant to all humankind) is the Qur'anic injunction to "stand out firmly for justice, as witness to Allah.. follow not the lusts (of your heart), lest ye swerve, and... ye distort (justice or decline to do justice)" (S. 4:135). Since the presence of a greater intensity of emotions and desires is necessary for the proper discharge of the women's duty as wives and mothers, this ability has been Divinely fixed as part of their natural make-up, thus making them "crooked" - more vulnerable and therefore prone to distort or not do justice. To straighten women involves trying to force them to go against their Divine given nature, "breaking" their nature by removing from it that which is the source of "benefit" to men and which makes women good wives and mothers - ceasing to be such can only mean divorce will follow as a direct consequence. Men who require this are evil and unjust and are themselves trying to avoid their Islamic duty to "forgive and overlook and cover up their (women's) faults)" (S. 64:14) and not "treat them with harshness... on the contrary, live with them on the footing of kindness and equity" (S. 4:19). Nevertheless, these Qur'anic injunctions are not to be abuse by women who se their emotional nature as an excuse for wrong-doings. Like men, women are also capable of being disciplined, knowledgeable and just, so it is perfectly just and proper that husbands, while keeping in mind their wives' emotional make-up, should encourage them to strive for their own level of excellence.

I therefore have no difficulty in accepting that the idea of a "rib-created women" has both a physical and spiritual signification. Physical because Hawa could most probably have been created from a bone taken from Adam, and spiritual because despite her emotional make-up, like him, she and every other women are also capable of being disciplined and submissive to Allah (SWT).

Mekaeel Maknoon

NOTHING about jews there or ANYWHERE in the Belief, History, Scholarship and Science of Believers of the Creator of Adaam(as) for 1430+ YEARS --- the MUSLIMS

AlHajj AbdulMaleek AsShabazz at his death was of the MUSLIMS not the Xpagans.......

Harry Watley Sunday, October 13th 2013 at 3:59AM

Robert,

Your long post is not saying who Adam and Eve is. Your post is explaining the significance and meaning of Adam and Eve and how humanity started. But, it doesn’t who Adam and Eve were and that is the issue.

I am telling you that Adam and Eve was a Jewish couple since all the descendents of Adam and Eve were Jewish people and it was a Jewish Prophet Moses telling the story of Adam and Eve to his Jewish people. How can you not conclude that Adam and Eve was a Jewish couple?

DAVID JOHNSON Sunday, October 13th 2013 at 4:56AM

where you want the body to be sent ,if you can think of some **** like that then i'd have no problem sending you on ,,,red rum was the case !

powell robert Sunday, October 13th 2013 at 9:10AM


djohnson you are the 'blackMESS' that is STEREOTYPICALLY vulgar, loudMouthed and OBSCENE.

YOU are the .....racistIGNORANCE----- that feeds the mentally Deficient mind of Harry

VULGARITY and Ignorance of dJOHNSON and his 'blackBrother' harry
----are 'black' Stereotypes that BIA, and all African AMerican Families should SHATTER........




Harry Watley Sunday, October 13th 2013 at 12:22PM

Robert,

Don’t be stupid and get side track. The issue you are trying resolve is whether Adam and Eve was a Jewish couple as I said they were.

Do you agree that all the descendents of Adam and Eve were Jewish couples?

Harry Watley Sunday, October 13th 2013 at 12:24PM

David,

Post something intelligent. Ask a question.

powell robert Sunday, October 13th 2013 at 12:53PM


djohnson is your 'blackPeople' harry---he is the ultimate BIA dumbDOWNER

as Dr.Thomasena Martin-Johnson has stated before---------about yourDavid

"I was responding to the term slave as we know of it today. Look in the mirror for DUMB, sir. Any way I was not talking to you because you are a broken record and don't know what you are talking about 99.99% of the time.
That is if your message was meant for me. Otherwise, keep your garbage to yourself.

Sunday, October 31st 2010 at 4:50PM
Thomasena Martin-Johnson

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO......

Adaam(as) and Hawah(ra);

as I WROTE above and the Muslim from Ireland Stated in his khutbaa;

were and are Believers of the way of life of their Creator
------Muslims----those in state of Peace of their Lord.......


Harry Watley Sunday, October 13th 2013 at 1:14PM

Dumb-ass Robert,

I am neither asking you nor am I concern about what the Muslim from Ireland believes or is saying.

I am asking you am I right that the Biblical Adam and Eve was a Jewish couple since all the descendents of Adam and Eve were Jews.

You are avoiding answering me and it is because you know that I am right and therefore you are wrong and you don’t want to admit that you are wrong.

The things I say you have never dealt with them before and I am destroying you. You must leave Islam and Prophet Mohammed since you are not an Arab man. I am you prophet.

Was Adam and Eve a Jewish couple? The answer is YES!

Harry Watley Sunday, October 13th 2013 at 1:58PM

David,

What is important is coming out and saying that I am wrong that Black America’s permanent solution is not sovereignty since I promotes and advocates sovereignty as our permanent solution.

You don’t want to address whether I am right because you know that I am right. Instead, you want to call me names and go off track about getting a life.

I have a life. My life is to show you that you are ignorant by not want to sovereignty for you people and your self. You had adamantly said to me that you don’t want Black Americans to become a nation in a country of our own and that feeling for a Black American man to have is utterly stupid. Do you agree with me?

Address the real issue and the real issue our sovereign freedom in a country of our own!

Harry Watley Sunday, October 13th 2013 at 2:43PM

David,

You have to make me give it up! You just can’t cry on my shoulders to give it up. How you make me give up my prophet-hood is to show me that I am wrong about anything that I’ve said.

For example, I said that sovereignty is our only permanent solution. To make me give this up you must present something better than sovereignty and you have not done that in all these years.

Out think me and come up with something better than the things that God has shown me, stupid!

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