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church people what the hell ??Single mom: Son born out of wedlock snubbed by Winans' church

DAVID JOHNSON · Thursday, October 17th 2013 at 9:06PM · 3449 views
DETROIT (WJBK) -- Charity Grace lives on the east side of the city with her 2-year-old son, Joshua. The two recently started to attend Perfecting Church under the leadership of Pastor Marvin Winans.

On Sunday, a special blessing is planned at the church on East Nevada Street. They are having a dedication service for children two years old and under. Grace was looking forward to having her only child receive this blessing.

"I want to instill values and morals in my son based upon the word of God," said Grace.

She called the church on Tuesday to make arrangements. "I told them I was not married and that's where everything just broke loose."

Grace says she spoke with a woman who told her Pastor Winans' policy is that he is not to bless children of unwed mothers in front of his congregation.

"I've never felt so degraded and disrespected in my life," said Grace.

Rev. W.J. Rideout III of All God's People Church speaks out about injustice outside the church and all over the world. So, we asked if he thought this was an injustice inside the church.

"Every pastor has set up the pattern of his church, the way he feels or deems fit. But as it relates to the scripture, I feel like it's wrong," said Rideout. "I feel like we're judging, but we're not judging with righteous judgement."

We asked to speak with Pastor Winans about the allegations. He declined an interview.

"What they could do for me is let my son get dedicated, during a week day with one of the elders of my choice," said Grace.

"I'm not speaking against the pastor, but sometimes we make poor decisions," said Rideout.

"I absolutely would not set foot back in the church right now because I feel like they look down upon me and my kind, meaning single moms and unwed mothers. The church should be the last place you should go to be judged and denied," said Grace.



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church people what the hell ??Single mom: Son born out of wedlock snubbed by Winans' church

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DAVID JOHNSON Thursday, October 17th 2013 at 9:49PM

Pastor Marvin Winans Refuses To Bless Children Of Unwed Mothers In Front Of Congregation
On Sunday, the Perfecting Church, which is ran by Pastor Marvin Winans, will hold a special blessing of its congregation’s children. Unfortunately one child will not be allowed to participate.

Charity Grace’s son, 2-year-old Joshua, is not allowed to participate in the church’s dedication ceremony.

“I want to instill values and morals in my son based upon the word of God,” said Grace.

According to My Fox Detroit, Grace called the church on Tuesday to make arrangements. “I told them I was not married and that’s where everything just broke loose.” Grace said a church official told her Pastor Winans’ policy is that he doesn’t bless children of unwed mothers in front of his congregation.

“I’ve never felt so degraded and disrespected in my life,” said Grace.

“What they could do for me is let my son get dedicated, during a week day with one of the elders of my choice,” said Grace.

“I absolutely would not set foot back in the church right now because I feel like they look down upon me and my kind, meaning single moms and unwed mothers. The church should be the last place you should go to be judged and denied,” said Grace.

Unfortunately My Fox Detroit was unable to reach Pastor Winans for a comment on his “policy”. Way to go with shunning a child, Pastor Winans.

Clutchettes, what do you think about Pastor Winans’ policy?

Steve Williams Thursday, October 17th 2013 at 11:52PM

Anyone with the spirit of Jesus can bless this child. No need for Pastor Winan.

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Sylvainy R Friday, October 18th 2013 at 1:11PM

A ghost got Mary pregnant and then told Mary she was pregnant then another Ghost told a man Joseph who could have been Mary’s grandfather to take Mary as his wife because that which is in her is of the holy Ghost so the child would not be born out of wedlock,
This is what these Pastors use as mass indoctrination to degraded ,disrespect and manipulate those that may not know (A GHOST SAID AND DID ALL OF THIS) who ever this lady is she should demand an apology from this Pastors who in my opinion based on this story needs to wake up

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Sylvainy R Friday, October 18th 2013 at 1:13PM

@ Steve Williams
In the spirit of Jesus Christ ????? really

Steve Williams Friday, October 18th 2013 at 2:35PM

Sylvainy, I only said Jesus, without the Christ appended. My understanding of Jesus is not that of Christianity as defined by the Church down through the centuries of corruption. He was a social reformer, like Fard Muhammad. Not God.

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Sylvainy R Friday, October 18th 2013 at 5:09PM

@Steve Williams
Then the right name would be Yeshua, and not Jesus for history tells you Jesus did not exist

Steve Williams Saturday, October 19th 2013 at 12:40AM

Sylvainy, it's not possible to know if Jesus existed as a person, and if he did, who exactly he was. Jesus may be a composite. There are 2000 years of layers upon layers, and lots of burned books

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Sylvainy R Saturday, October 19th 2013 at 11:07AM

@Steve Williams
I can show you evidence of a people who existed and have done great things 10000 years ago
No one has yet to produce any evidence of a Johnny come lately Jesus who they say has done all these great things 2000 years a go when people like the Pastor Winans of this world use what he thinks he knows to a man who history can demonstrate never existed to degraded ,disrespect and manipulate people Grace and others for power and profit that calls for some serious reflection Grace should demand an apology
A composite ????? I like that

ROBINSON IRMA Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM

THAT IS ONE THING WE CAN ALWAYS COUNT ON AND IT IS IF YOU DON'T DIOSCRIMINATE...YOU ARE NOT A 'GOOD' CHRISTIAN...

ASK ANYONE ONE IN THE KKK OR A BAPTIST V EVANGALICICAL IST OR A BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN LIKE FORMER PRESIDENT BUSH AS TOWARDS OUR PRESENT BLACK PRESIDENT, ECT...

SO , ME, "I" JUST STICK WITH MOM'S BABY, DAD'S MAYBE...OOPS JESUS' FATHER AND MOTHER WERE NOT MARRIED...UBT THEN THEY WERE NOT CHRISTIANS EITHER NOW WERE THEY?!? (NUP/SMILE)...

LETS SEE IS JESUS AN AMERICAN NAME AND WASS SPOKEN 2,000 YEARS AGO WHEN THE EARTH WAS IN DEED F-L-A-T?!?...AND, BEFORE THE SINEN'S ANSESTORS WERE BROUGHT HERE TO MAKE THEM HUMANS WITH SOULS BY WAY OF BECOMEING NONPROPERTY?!?...WHICH GETS UA RIGHT BACK TO 'PREJUSIDE' AS IN IGNORANCE OR YOU ARE NOT A 'GOOD CHRISTIAN'...(S-M-I-L-E)

ROBINSON IRMA Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM

A PASTOR LIKE THIS WILL BE THE FIRST TO CONDEMN THE CONFEDEART FLAG AND THE POPE AND GIVE PRAISE FOR A BLACK PRESIDENT WHOSE PARENTS WENT THROUGH TIS SAME BULL **** IN THENAME OF WELL...WE ALL KNOW W-H-O !!! HELL WHAT WOULD HE DO IF HE GOT CALLED G-A-Y WHICH IS POSSIBLE AND WITH THESE KINDS OF CLOSED MINDS HE WOULD BE UP ****'S CREEK WITHOUT A REGULAR PASSING OF THE PATE FOR MONIES FROM HIM INSTANTLY!!!...

AGAIN AND A-L- IN THE NME OF YOU ALL KNOW WHO...LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!(N-U-P)

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