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I have two questions for the Muslim followers of Mr. Farrakhan.

I have two questions for the Muslim followers of Mr. Farrakhan.

Harry Watley · Monday, November 4th 2013 at 4:23AM · 1645 views
We know that Mr. Fard and Elijah started the Nation of Islam (NOI) based on religious values and at the same time was to completely separated the Black American slaves from White America as a free and sovereign people am I right.

My first question is. Did the mission statement of the NOI ever happened and if it didn’t was Elijah a failure?

Last question, what did Elijah bring to us Black Americans except the religion of Islam which belongs to the Arabian?

Neat hair cuts, bow-ties, women heads covered with long skirts, the men off drugs and alcohol are not nearly answers to our sovereignty and nation-hood that only can come to us through our first real and genuine prophet.

Why do you all continue on a dead-end path? Have not enough time pasted that would clearly justify that Elijah was a failure? Or, are you all in denial?

I know that my questions get Bro. Marcus, Bro. Maurice and Siebra up-set to core, but my questions are relevant and legitimate.

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Aaron X Monday, November 4th 2013 at 4:41PM

To Mr. Harry Watley:

Peace be unto you sir. These are great questions that can and should be answered. I'm a 34 year old Black man registered in the Nation of Islam under Minister Farrakhan's leadership in Chicago since 2001.

I am not an NOI official but would be humbly honored to have a phone interview for the purpose of deliberative dialogue to answer questions regarding the success or failure of Elijah Muhammad's program that has continued under Minister Farrakhan's leadership of the Nation of Islam.

I can be reached by phone or contact form via my website at www.Blackxodus.com.

Hope to hear from you soon. And once again, thanks for your questions and concerns.

"On the Road to Economic Independence."

Brother Aaron X
Director, BlackXodus Development Corporation
www.BlackXodus.com

Harry Watley Monday, November 4th 2013 at 4:59PM

Hello Mr. Aaron,

I would love to talk to you now and may be some days down the road we will see each other in person.

I will e-mail you my # via this site.

Aaron X Monday, November 4th 2013 at 5:08PM

Great!

powell robert Tuesday, November 5th 2013 at 9:08AM


Are followers of farakhan ----- Muslims?

Are followers of farakhan ----- Believers of AlQur'aan and the Sunnah of Mohamed(saw)

FACT---------------followers of farakhan LIKE to secretly discuss their nonSENSE


Steve Williams Tuesday, November 5th 2013 at 1:55PM

They are Muslims Robert. AlHajj Louis Farrakhan.

Harry Watley Tuesday, November 5th 2013 at 7:57PM

Hello to all,

Muslims are Arabian people only. No other people can be Muslims since Prophet Mohammed an Arab man invented that word Muslims to call his newly converts to their new religion Islam.
The word Muslim is an Arabian thing.

Likewise, only Jews can have Judaism since Prophet Abraham introduced to the Jewish people Judaism.

In addition, only Black Americans who are direct and indirect descendents of slaves are LIFERS since Prophet Harry a Black American himself introduced Black Americans to the religion LIFE.

So, again only Arabian people can be Muslims.

You all should just think and ask your selves sometime am I saying something sensible or am I saying something stupid. Reasoning or analytical thinking is an art in the realm of science.

Your all don’t use your brains! I use my brain and that is why you have never said that I was wrong.

powell robert Tuesday, November 5th 2013 at 8:22PM


steve you lying filth------there IS NO alhaj Louis
----- he used AbdulHaleem Farrakhan

now you TALK for Aaron X ???????????

steve---- selfProfessed 'whiteMan'-----where is your servant Aaron X?



Steve Williams Wednesday, November 6th 2013 at 2:41AM

Louis Farrakhan made Hajj in 1985. Ask any family member.

Harry Watley Wednesday, November 6th 2013 at 8:06AM

Hello Curtis,

You used the word taquiyya responding to Robert. What is the definition or did you mis-spell the word?

powell robert Wednesday, November 6th 2013 at 9:03AM


that was on another blog harry, but taqeeyah is a term used MAINLY in Shia History of not be open or truthful to enemies or potential enemies.............

the Xs and paganChristian selfProfessed 'whiteBlackies' are the GENESIS of the Division and Misinformation in the Family of Adaam(as)

so it is just those selfProfessed 'whiteMen' steveC U R T I S letting the African Americans and ignorant 'blackPeople' -------------"WE SMARTER THAN you all"---"WE SUPREMISTS"

bottom LINE,
-------------farakhanSTEVEc u r t I s X ------all the same.......................to Muslims

Harry Watley Wednesday, November 6th 2013 at 5:06PM

Robert,

Okay, I understand. And, yes it was on another blog.

Harry Watley Wednesday, November 6th 2013 at 5:17PM

Stupid-ass Steve,

Did you understand that Mr. Farrakhan making Hajj in 1985 is moot since Farrakhan is not an Arabian man?

Steve Williams Thursday, November 7th 2013 at 12:37PM

Farrakhan is not an Arabian but he is a Muslim. So no, his making Hajj is not moot.

Harry Watley Thursday, November 7th 2013 at 4:15PM

Steve,

Since you think that Mr. Farrakhan is a Muslim then what is the definition of the word Muslim?

powell robert Thursday, November 7th 2013 at 8:08PM


a selfProfessed 'whiteMan' determining on an African American Family wwwebsite who or who is not has a 'slaverAmericanaNAME' or who or who is not a Muslim...........?

WHAT racistARROGANCE!

-------- typical STEREOTYPIC racistTRASH writing

.............what a N I G G E R steve IS...............

ps for the farakhanMaddoof lying --- he lied as Louis that he was AbdulHaleem

I cannot judge his Belief as he made HAJJ --- he used Taqueeyah-Deception probably

because as soon as he got back to America

----he became 'louis' and the paganChristian SLAVE of racism and colorIdentification

NOT the SHAHADDAAH of AbdulHaleem Farrakhan, Hajjs and Muslims............

----"there is nothing of power but ALLAAH, and Mohamed is the Prophet of Allaah"

and of course NO neoNOI2013----has the COURAGE to counter my writing

........at BIA or anywhere

Steve Williams Thursday, November 7th 2013 at 9:38PM

Harry,

A Muslim is one who submits to the will of the Creator.

Harry Watley Friday, November 8th 2013 at 7:32AM

Steve,

Moses submitted to the will of the Creator. Does that make Moses a Muslim? I Prophet Harry submit to the will of the Creator as does that make me a Muslim as well? But, guess what we are not Muslims?

So, how can a Muslim be one who submits to the will of the Creator and Moses and I are not Muslims since Moses and I are not Arabian people? The word Muslim is Arabia and Moses and I are not Arabian people.

Can you square your stupid logic for me?

Likewise, the Jews say that if you are not Jewish then you are a gentile. However, I am not a Jew and I don’t accept that I am a gentile. So, because the Jews say that I am a gentile does that mean that I am a gentile even though I know that I am a Black American?

Steve Williams Friday, November 8th 2013 at 7:41AM

Harry,

Are all Arabians Muslims?

Harry Watley Friday, November 8th 2013 at 8:49AM

Steve,

Now you are beginning to get real stupid playing games and tricks, but I am going to say it one more time and then if you ask the same stupid question again this conversation is over!

Only Arabian people since Mohammed invented the word Muslim to distinguish the dis-believer from the believer and Mohammed was a born Arab man.

What part of what I am explaining that you don’t understand I would suggest that you go to your nearest middle school and ask the English teacher to interpret what I wrote.

Steve Williams Friday, November 8th 2013 at 9:21AM

The Qur'an describes many prophets and messengers as well as their respective followers as Muslim: Adam, Noah, Abraham, Jacob, Moses and Jesus and his apostles are all considered to be Muslims in the Qur'an. The Qur'an states that these men were Muslims because they submitted to God, preached His message and upheld His values, which included praying, charity, fasting and pilgrimage. Thus, in Surah 3:52 of the Qur'an, Jesus’ disciples tell Jesus, "We believe in God; and you be our witness that we are Muslims (wa-shahad be anna muslimūn)." In Muslim belief, before the Qur'an, God had given the Torah to Moses, the Psalms to David and the Gospel to Jesus, who are all considered important Muslim prophets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim

Steve Williams Friday, November 8th 2013 at 9:36AM

ISLAM is one of the derivatives of a common root, S-L-M, for many related words in Arabic such as AS-SALAM and MUSLIM. The derivatives are formed by applying the root form to different linguistic patterns.

The root SLM itself literally means “peace.” When the first consonant of the root is prefixed with the patternal “i-,” i.e., iSLM and the last with “a-,” i.e. SlaM, altogether the root reads iSLaM now. This is the pattern of full action. Thus, Islam means "putting peace into action" or "practicing peace fully." So, in reality the word iSLaM refers to the application of peace not just peace itself. This is why Islam cannot be without practice.

The word muSLiM is yet another derivative of the same root, SLM, through addition of a different set, i.e., “mu-” before the S, and “i-” after the L. The equivalent of this pattern in English is the suffex -er like in read-er, do-er, or act-or, etc. So, derived from iSLaM, the practicing of peace, the word muSLiM now means one who is practicing iSLaM, practicer of peace, a peaceful person or a peace-maker. When you add the suffix -ah, you generate female form of the doer. Thus, muSLiMah is the female practicer of peace.

When you add the prefix al-, it functions as a definite article. Hence, Al salam is the peace. If "As salamu alaykum" literally is “The peace upon you," then alaykum must mean the rest of the translation which is “Upon you.” Yes, “ala” in Arabic on, upon, and “kum” is you (plural).

The Hebrew words shalom and Solomon are also peace-related words in meaning as Hebrew and Arabic are sister languages.

http://www.islamanswering.com/subpage.php?...

Steve Williams Friday, November 8th 2013 at 9:41AM

Have you thought through the title of your blog Harry?

I have two questions for the Muslim followers of Mr. Farrakhan.

Are you not addressing "the Muslim followers of Mr. Farrakhan"?

powell robert Friday, November 8th 2013 at 1:05PM


steve, good research, as many that have a genuine desire to be EDUCATED can do

And

The INTELLIGENCE and EDUCATION that steve cannot give and it Burns him......

muslim, shalom, assalaamualydum etc. are englishTRANSLITERATIONS of Hebrew and Arabic

and since English is a new language of barbaric paganORIGIN

---- the MEANINGS of these words are KNOWN most INTELLECTUALLY and ACCURATELLY in the Hebrew and Arabic languages................

Steve Williams Friday, November 8th 2013 at 1:23PM

There are many interesting languages I'd like to learn, Japanese, Arabic, Hieroglyphics... But the most practical one for me to learn right now is the one being learned by my grandchildren in a bilingual school (and from their mother), here in California. Spanish.

Steve Williams Friday, November 8th 2013 at 1:34PM

Hebrew I can live without. The oldest recording we have of the Old Testament (as we call it) is in Greek.

Steve Williams Friday, November 8th 2013 at 1:38PM

That brings up an interesting question. Did Muhammad (the 7th century one) know Greek?

Curtis Tilleraas Friday, November 8th 2013 at 1:50PM

But the meaning isn't known at all by millions of Muslims who can recite passages of the Qu'ran, even recite it in its entirety,in Arabic, but they can't read and they don't know Arabic. For many years it was illegal to "translate" the Qu'ran because, as Robert notes, its meaning, its fullest and truest meaning, is in the Qu'ranic Arabic. Still, Muslims throughout the world were hungry to have an idea what's in the Qu'ran and so, here and there, authorities would grant permission to do an 'interpretation' in another language, as long as it was understood that this interpretation was not a translation, because there could be no worthy translation of what was considered the direct speech of Allah. I studied Arabic for a year under a Muslim teacher from Egypt, and then i had a tutor who was a Palestinian Muslim from Bethlehem, but that was years ago and I don't remember much of it.

Steve Williams Friday, November 8th 2013 at 2:41PM

Curt, which translation of the Quran do you use personally?

Harry Watley Friday, November 8th 2013 at 5:05PM

Hello Steve,

Our dialogue is over since you are not responding to my question.

Curtis Tilleraas Friday, November 8th 2013 at 5:17PM

There was one by an Ali something or other and another one by Pickthall. Pickthall is considered to be one of the best. I had a few others but I don't have them in this library and I'm not sure they are in my library at home either. But Pickthall is good. :)

Steve Williams Friday, November 8th 2013 at 7:27PM

I'll get over it Harry.

Steve Williams Friday, November 8th 2013 at 7:30PM

Thanks Curt. I thought so since it's the one referenced in your bibliography.

powell robert Friday, November 8th 2013 at 8:44PM


steve OFF SUBJECT----

Are followers of farakhan ----- Muslims?

Are followers of farakhan ----- Believers of AlQur'aan and the Sunnah of Mohamed(saw)

as your X guy and siebra gal ALWAYS hide and run when AlQur'aan and the Sunnah of Mohamed(saw) are mentioned

-----quit disrespecting harry, an African American -- we can debate AlIslaam on your brainDead 'out of Reality' blagette

but--- as always ---- you NEED to be CORRECTED

youWrite: "The oldest recording we have of the Old Testament (as we call it) is in Greek."

AtTaurat is of Hebrew ORIGIN, GENESIS etc.......NOT paganGreek

you meant to write:
"The oldest recording we have of the newTestament (as we call it) is in Greek."

Mohamed(saw) was a businessman and sometime in his travels he may have met people that spoke greek BUT Mohamed(saw) received through Jeebreel the Language of AlQur'aan from the Creator of Adaam(as) and as Prophet delivered this Message in the only important Language of Monotheism-----Arabic................

and to CORRECT your C U R T I S
-----heWrites:
"millions of Muslims who can recite passages of the Qu'ran, even recite it in its entirety,in Arabic, but they can't read and they don't know Arabic"

to RECITE ALQur'aan by a nonArab----MOST Muslims are nonARAB----and become Hafeeth or "KNOW its ENTIRETY"-- in Phillippines, Russia, USA, South Africa or Minnesota the Hafeeth READS ARABIC very well and sincerely.

Since a Hafeeth probably takes 12-15 YEARS of READING -- he/she -- KNOWS a LOT of the Arabic Meaning and the Majority Also Speak and Learn Arabic well........

The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia would be your best source for learning and understanding Arabic, in fact if you asked they would give you great EDUCATIONAL materials for Arabic learning.............

Steve Williams Friday, November 8th 2013 at 9:24PM

Robert,

I said "oldest recording we have". There may have been an earlier recording in the Chaldean language (as Philo states) but if there was there are no extant copies and it almost certainly (given the passage of 10 or 11 centuries) not have been what we now have in the Masoretic text.

Steve Williams Friday, November 8th 2013 at 9:30PM

I'll let my improper English stand, you'll get my meaning.

Harry Watley Saturday, November 9th 2013 at 6:18AM

Hello Robert,

You are making a very good point rationally speaking. It seems to me that you are making the point that since about the Bible is Hebrew base than the origin has to Hebrew and not Greek as Steve because of Philco thinks.

The origin of the New Testament is based of two Hebrew/Jewish men, Apostle Paul and Jesus the Christ.

Greeks are not part of the origin of the New Testament. Greeks and Hebrews are racially two different people. The Greeks can not tell the story of the Hebrew people. Only the Hebrew people can tell their own story.

So, the oldest recordings of the New Testament are in Hebrew.

Nevertheless the question is still not answered. Are the followers of Mr. Farrakhan Muslims? The answer is no, because no people other than Arabian people can be Muslims since Mohammed invented the word Muslim and Mohammed was an Arab.

Steve and Curtis are two stupid-ass White men.

powell robert Saturday, November 9th 2013 at 9:48AM


harry,
Logic and Rational Historic, Scholastic and Science of the Mind show the point that a Believer in any part of the World can Master and Enjoy the Beauty and Truth of the Family of Adaam(as) in AlQur'aan and the Sunnah of Mohamed(saw)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

steve YOU know YOU are incorrect in English, greek, Hebrew or ebonics

ADMIT your mistake to African American biaFamilies and the paganChristians

WOOPS, forgot

---- a selfProfessed 'whiteMan' CANNOT and will NOT show any Language BUT the Language and Philosophy of racistIgnorant 'whiteSupremacy'-----

GET BACK TO harry's SUBJECT
-----------or get your slaveName; noKNOWLEDGE, 'black' Brother Aaron X
-----------to come out of hiding


powell robert Saturday, November 9th 2013 at 12:10PM



selfProfessed 'whiteManPREACHER'

--- the QUESTION is not yours to ANSWER

---- and AtTaurat is in HEBREW..........AtTaurat preceded the romans/greeks

you have NO idea what A Believer of the Creator of Adaam(as)
-- his Prophets and Words --IS
-- NO idea of AlQur'aan and Mohamed(saw)

The question is for the Hiding, Lost 'black' Brother Aaron X

Mohamed(saw) said:

Narrated Abu Hurairah ÑÖí Çááå Úäå :
One day while the Prophet(saw) was sitting in the company of some people, Jibrael (Gabriel) (ra) came and asked, "What is Faith?" Allâah’s Messenger (saw) replied, "Faith is to believe in Allâah, His angels, the meeting with Him, His messengers, and to believe in Resurrection."* Then he further asked, "What is Islâam?" Allâah’s Messenger (saw) replied, "To worship Allâah Alone and none else, to perform AsSalât (Iqamât-AsSalât), to give the Zakât and to observe Saum (fasts) during the month of Ramadâan,"** then he further asked, "What is Ihsâan (perfection)?" Allâah’s Messenger (saw) replied, "To worship Allâah as if you see Him, and if you cannot achieve this state of devotion then you must consider that He is looking at you." Then he further asked, "When will the Hour be?" Allâah’s Messenger (saw) replied, "The answerer has no better knowledge than the questioner. But I will inform you about its meaning:

THAT EXPLAINS AlIslaam and Faith of Muslims........

Harry Watley Saturday, November 9th 2013 at 9:58PM

Hello Robert,

You said this, “harry,
Logic and Rational Historic, Scholastic and Science of the Mind show the point that a Believer in any part of the World can Master and Enjoy the Beauty and Truth of the Family of Adaam(as) in AlQur'aan and the Sunnah of Mohamed(saw)”

I don’t have anything against the Arabian people believing in the Quran. I have no problem with other people beside Arabs believing in Islam because I didn’t come from other people.

The problem that I have is my own Black American people believing in Christian and Islamic religions because it is Black Americans I came from.

You don’t have a fight with me. I accept all the things you are saying about Mohammed and the Quran. I can’t tell the Arabs they are wrong about their own prophet and Quran. But, I can tell Black Americans that they are wrong to choose the Arabian ways over their own way. You believe that he Arabian people can have a prophet then why can’t you all believe that Black Americans can have a prophet as well.

As much beauty as you say the Quran has for the Arab people image how much more beautiful your religion LIFE is to Islam. Nothing is better than having your own am I right.

powell robert Saturday, November 9th 2013 at 10:35PM


we may have Harry come to a Logic Understanding

"As much beauty as you say the Quran has for the Arab people image how much more beautiful your religion LIFE is to Islam. Nothing is better than having your own am I right"

I do wish you the best Understanding, but I am not 'black' or 'white' AND if siebra, the littleHiding AaronX, djohnson, sweetIrma and the LEGIONS of selfIdentifing 'blackPeople' are what YOU want --- OK with me

------I assure you I DO NOT CHERISH communicating with racistIgnorance, may Allaah have mercy on me for my impatience........

Harry Watley Sunday, November 10th 2013 at 10:03AM

Robert,

You still don’t get it. You can not wish Allah’s blessing on me because you are not an Arab Muslim. An Arab Muslim can wish Allah’s blessing on me, but not you since you are not Arab.

Your religion is LIFE and I am your prophet!

You must learn what God has in store from us and leave the Arabian people to their own.

powell robert Sunday, November 10th 2013 at 1:12PM


I wrote above harry
..."I do wish you the best Understanding...may Allaah have mercy on me for my impatience"..

this is where your 68IQ Retardism comes in

--- I, robertPowell, WOULD never, NEVER wish well of someone who claims Prophethood2013

and the Blessings or need of them were for ME!----not you
----I do not have the patience to deal with 'whiteBlack' People -- they SEEM to me to be SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO far away from History, Scholarship Science and INTELLIGENCE....

Harry Watley Sunday, November 10th 2013 at 5:40PM

Robert,

I believe that the reason why you wouldn’t wish me well since I am claiming to be a prophet and I proved that I am when I said the prophets are racially different, but you always thought that Mohammed was the seal of the prophets and now I have shattered your belief in Mohammed and you are not handling the fall-out well.

I am talking about prophets being racially different and you want to talk about Black/White. You are stupid and don’t have the courage to admit that I am right that prophets are racially different.

Seibra don’t want to believe that Elijah and Mr. Farrakhan are wrong and that I am smarter than the both of them because I am Black America’s true leader because I am our prophet.

powell robert Monday, November 11th 2013 at 9:27PM


YOU, harry, are to me----a selfProfessed 68 IQ retardant---your words

and my words----a deranged mentallyChallenged racistlyIgnorant paganChristian Stereotype
---------------------rather than the Y, you need Bellview inpatient services......

THE SAME as siebra
...............and all youALL 'blackieWhitie' DENIERS of History, Scholarship and Science..

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