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Russian Federation Defence Ministry Has 10 Questions To Kiev Over Plane Crash

Yaiqab Saint · Saturday, July 19th 2014 at 8:04AM · 512 views

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Ukraine must report about details of the use of its Buk air defence systems and explain reasons of its inaction to form an international commission to investigate the causes of the crash.

Russian Federation Defense Minister Photo Attached with RT talking points on the video.


øpMOSCOW, July 19 (Itar-Tass) - Russian Deputy Defence Minister Anatoly Antonov has accused Kiev of inaction to form an international commission to investigate the Malaysian Boeing 777 crash and said there were a number of questions Moscow expected Kiev to answer.

Antonov said in an interview to Russia 24 television "it caused surprise and even bitterness that some people abroad tried to play on the situation".

"Already today they try to determine who is guilty of the situation we hear it is the Russian Federation or its armed forces, or militiamen in the southeast of Ukraine."

"It seems to be a continuation of the information war unleashed against the RF already for many months, and we feel consequences of the war," Antonov said.

"We would like today to ask Ukraine's armed forces ten questions. Answers to the questions would allow all of us, not only in Russia, but in Western states and the east, in Asia, to try to find an answer to the main questions: what happened in the sky over Ukraine and what must be done to prevent it from recurring."

Ukraine must report about details of the use of its Buk air defence systems on the day of the Boeing crash and explain reasons of its inaction to form an international commission to investigate the causes of the crash, he noted.

The Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777, which was on a flight from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur, crashed in the Donetsk region on Thursday evening. All the 298 people aboard died.
Russian Federation Defence Ministry Has 10 Questions To Kiev Over Plane Crash

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Yaiqab Saint Monday, July 21st 2014 at 10:49PM

Here are the ten questions and one will be directed at John Kerry's SA 11 transfer to the Eastern Ukrainian rebels since he said the United States will present proof.


Ukraine hasn’t said how it immediately knew rebels downed Malaysian plane, notes the Russian Foreign Ministry, as it unveils 10 awkward questions for Ukraine (and perhaps the US 'snap judgment') to answer about the MH17 disaster. However, what is perhaps more concerning for the hordes of finger-pointers is that:

•RUSSIA HAS IMAGES OF UKRAINE DEPLOYING BUK ROCKETS IN EAST: IFX
•RUSSIA: UKRAINE MOVED BUK NEAR REBELS IN DONETSK JULY 17: IFX
•RUSSIA DETECTED UKRAINIAN FIGHTER JET PICK UP SPEED TOWARD MH17
Russia wants to know why Ukraine moved its BUK missiles systems the day of the MH17 crash:

•RUSSIAN GENERAL STAFF HAS SPACE IMAGES OF SECTORS OF UKRAINIAN FORCES' POSITIONS IN SOUTHEASTERN UKRAINE, INCLUDING BUK MISSILE LUNCH SITES 8 KILOMETERS FROM LUHANSK - RUSSIAN DEFENSE MINISTRY - Interfax

Russia has the flight paths of the Ukrainian fighters and MH17. Furthermore, it is asking the same question we asked last Thurday:

•RUSSIA SAYS MH17 DIVERGED 14 KM FROM FLIGHT PATH NEAR DONETSK

And asks for US proof of their accusations:

•RUSSIA SAYS U.S. SATELLITE FLEW OVER MH17 AT TIME IT WAS DOWNED... which would provide all the proof needed to show who is responsible - so why hasn't the US explained this or shown it?
•RUSSIA ASKS U.S. FOR EVIDENCE ROCKET FIRED FROM REBEL-HELD AREA
•RUSSIA: NO U.S. PROOF THAT MISSILE FIRED FROM REBEL-HELD AREA
•DEFENCE MINISTRY SAYS RUSSIA DID NOT DELIVER ANY SA-11 BUK MISSILE SYSTEMS TO SEPARATISTS IN EASTERN UKRAINE "OR ANY OTHER WEAPONS"



Summing it all up, the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, has 10 questions for Ukraine (google translated)


The global public expects a speedy and independent investigation into the causes of the disaster Malaysian aircraft in the airspace of Ukraine.

In order to conduct an objective investigation of possible leadership of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation has ased ten questions to the Ukrainian side.


1. Ukrainian authorities immediately identified the militia as the perpetrators of the tragedy. What is the basis of such findings?



2. Could official Kiev to report all the details of using [BUKs] in a war zone? Most importantly - why these systems are deployed there, as the militia no planes?



3. What are the causes of inactivity of Ukrainian authorities on the formation of an international commission? When such a committee will work?



4. Are the armed forces of Ukraine international experts to present papers on accounting for missiles, air-to-air and ground-to-air ammo and anti-aircraft missiles?



5. Whether these funds objective control on the movement of the Ukrainian Air Force aircraft on the day of the tragedy brought international commission?



6. Why Ukrainian air traffic controllers allowed deviation of the route of the aircraft to the north side of the "anti-terrorist operation zone"?



7. Why was not completely closed to civilian aircraft airspace over the combat zone, especially because in this area there was no solid field of radar navigation?



8. Could official Kiev to comment on reports in the net, ostensibly on behalf of the Spanish air traffic controllers working in Ukraine, which shot down over the territory of Ukraine "Boeing" was accompanied by two Ukrainian military aircraft?



9. Why Security Service of Ukraine has begun without international representatives work with recordings of talks with Ukrainian crew dispatchers "Boeing" and Ukrainian radar data?



10. How were the lessons from previous similar disasters Russian Tu-154 in 2001 in the Black Sea? Then the leaders of Ukraine until the last minute denied any involvement of the Armed Forces of the country to the tragedy until irrefutable evidence showed no guilt official Kiev.

Unfortunately, there has been no response by the Ukraine side to these questions so far. We expect that there will be some answers.



Yaiqab Saint Monday, July 21st 2014 at 11:43PM

Okay here is the response from Kerry today and we expect a high ranking defense official from the Pentagon with satellite proof and the ability to distinguish between Ukrainian and rebel fighters because their uniforms are different as well as human ground intelligence to verify all claims.

Because the US is known to falsify evidence as a norm....... working on it right??????

Videos are you kidding me we all know that can be doctored. CNN and US media outlets frequently portray fake images on videos.

Once again Russia has tracked every move that US satellites have made over Ukraine from space and ground including tracking all of their radars from the beginning of the conflict.

Russia will be able to counter any US attempt of fraud and deceit. That is why they are stalling because they know Russia's space technology is number one in the world.

We don't want to hear national security excuses either because Russia knows were almost all American weapons are whether in the sea, land, space.

I have waited along time for the US to start some **** with Russia and they are extremely nervous and hence the delay of evidence.


Article Piece:


US working on case against Russia on downed plane
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Associated Press
By MATTHEW LEE 19 hours ago


WASHINGTON (AP) — Video of a rocket launcher, one surface-to-air missile missing, leaving the likely launch site. Imagery showing the firing. Calls claiming credit for the strike. Recordings said to reveal a cover-up at the crash site.





"A buildup of extraordinary circumstantial evidence ... it's powerful here," said Secretary of State John Kerry, a former prosecutor, and it holds Russian-supported rebels in eastern Ukraine responsible for shooting down Malaysia Airlines Flight 17, with the Kremlin complicit in the deaths of nearly 300 passengers and crew members.

"This is the moment of truth for Russia," said Kerry, leveling some of Washington's harshest criticism of Moscow since the crisis in Ukraine began.

"Russia is supporting these separatists. Russia is arming these separatists. Russia is training these separatists, and Russia has not yet done the things necessary in order to try to bring them under control," he said.

In a round of television interviews, Kerry cited a mix of U.S. and Ukrainian intelligence and social media reports that he said "obviously points a very clear finger at the separatists" for firing the missile that brought the plane down, killing nearly 300 passengers and crew.

"It's pretty clear that this is a system that was transferred from Russia into the hands of separatists," he said.

Video of an SA-11 launcher, with one of its missiles missing and leaving the likely launch site, has been authenticated, he said.

An Associated Press journalist saw a missile launcher in rebel-held territory close to the crash site just hours before the plane was brought down Thursday.



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Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 plane crash in Ukrain …
Dana, the German shepherd patrols along with a pro-Russian rebel next to a refrigerated train loaded …

"There's a buildup of extraordinary circumstantial evidence," Kerry said. "We picked up the imagery of this launch. We know the trajectory. We know where it came from. We know the timing, and it was exactly at the time that this aircraft disappeared from the radar. We also know from voice identification that the separatists were bragging about shooting it down afterward."

In one set of calls, said by Ukrainian security services to have been recorded shortly after the plane was hit, a prominent rebel commander, Igor Bezler, tells a Russian military intelligence officer that rebel forces shot down a plane.

Shortly before Kerry's television appearances, the U.S. Embassy in Kiev, the Ukrainian capital, released a statement saying experts had authenticated the calls.

"Audio data provided to the press by the Ukrainian security service was evaluated by intelligence community analysts who confirmed these were authentic conversations between known separatist leaders, based on comparing the Ukraine-released internet audio to recordings of known separatists," the statement said.

A new set of recordings apparently made Friday also appears to implicate rebels in an attempted cover-up at the crash site.

In one exchange, a man identified as the leader of the rebel Vostok Battalion Alexander Khodakovsky states that two recording devices are being held by the head of intelligence of the insurgency's military commander. The commander is then heard to order the militiaman to ensure no outsiders, including an international observation team near the crash site at the reported time of the call, get hold of any material.

The man identified as Khodakovsky says he is pursuing inquiries about the black boxes under instructions from "our high-placed friends ... in Moscow."



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Conflict in Ukraine
A piece of the crashed Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 lies in the grass near the village of Hrabove, ea …

In another conversation with a rebel representative at the crash site who reports finding an orange box marked as a satellite navigation box, Khodakovsky is purported to order that the object be hidden.

U.S. aviation safety experts say they are especially concerned the site will be "spoiled" if it cannot be quickly secured by investigators. Based on photographs, they say it is a very large debris field consistent with an in-flight explosion and the main evidence to be collected would be pieces of the missile.

Because the integrity of the plane and actions of the pilots are not an issue, the experts do not believe the flight recorders will yield much useful information.

U.S. and Ukrainian authorities have been at the forefront of accusations that the separatists, aided by Russia, are responsible, although other countries, including Australia and Britain have offered similar, if less definitive, assessments.

British Prime Minister David Cameron said in an unusual front-page piece in the Sunday Times that there is growing evidence that separatists backed by Russia shot down the aircraft.

"If President (Vladimir) Putin does not change his approach to Ukraine, then Europe and the West must fundamentally change our approach to Russia," Cameron wrote.

Putin and other Russian officials have blamed the government in Ukraine for creating the situation and atmosphere in which the plane was downed, but have yet to directly address the allegations that the separatists were responsible or were operating with technical assistance from Moscow.

In his interviews, Kerry accused Russia of "playing" a dual-track policy in Ukraine of saying one thing and doing another. That, he said, "is really threatening both the larger interests as well as that region and threatening Ukraine itself."

He lamented that the level of trust between Washington and Moscow is now at a low ebb, saying it "would be ridiculous at this point in time to be trusting" of what the Kremlin says.

Kerry also said the administration was hopeful that the incident would galvanize support in Europe for increasing sanctions on Russia over its overall actions in Ukraine.

"We hope this is a wake-up call for some countries in Europe that have been reluctant to move," Kerry said, noting that President Barack Obama had signed off on a new round of sanctions on Russia the day before the plane went down.

Kerry made his comments in appearances on five talk shows: CNN's "State of the Union," ''Fox News Sunday," CBS's "Face the Nation," NBC's "Meet the Press" and ABC's "This Week."

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Associated Press writers Peter Leonard in Kiev, Ukraine, and Joan Lowy in Washington contributed to this report.


Kerry needs to delete the videos because Russia has proven those claims to be false by international experts in audio technology over the last two days.

Kerry remember whatever satellite image you show Russia has a copy of it because they can intercept your satellites from space and ground.

Obama and the Pentagon is quite so far about the satellite data and the American people are going to be pleasantly surprised that Russia can copy their images or intercept them including radar as well.

Trust me China, India, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Pakistan, North Korea, and others are laughing their asses off because Russia is ready to blow up their spot and the American allies are going to be nervous because
Russia is going to show the world that they can copy/or intercept all of America's images/radars anytime they want.

So any attempt of fraud will be detected immediately!

Ohh. showing a launch of SA11 Buk Missiles ain't proof because Ukrainian army has them in their possession too.

Almost everything Ukraine has is Russian made and thus the tech specification proof comes from Russia not the USA.

Like to note that if they (USA) attempt any fraud Russia will immediately ask them for the significant gas trail of the missile system battery followed by pinpoint location whether from rebels or Ukrainian army?

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