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Indians never bought slaves.  Mr. Boulware it is not true that the Native American Indians owned slaves.

Indians never bought slaves. Mr. Boulware it is not true that the Native American Indians owned slaves.

Harry Watley · Monday, September 7th 2015 at 1:20PM · 1677 views

 

Please show any photos of Native Indians at the slave auction blocks buying slaves when the slave ships docked like you see the photos of White men buying slaves from the slave traders!

 

 

 

You have been mis-led Mr. G. Boulware! You are ignorant.

 

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Yaiqab Saint Monday, September 7th 2015 at 1:41PM

@ Harry
Yes the Natives did and I have photos to proof it and Greg can easily Google this!

It is high time that you stop this charade of this new race stuff because you don't know what you are talking about!

And don't try using some auction blocks to get out of the truth.......

Learn to talk about other things because you are devoid of truth on this subject matter

Reference Articles:

South Carolina's First Slaves – Native Americans

South Carolina's first slaves were neither black nor were they from Africa. They were Native Americans who had lived along the rivers of the Lowcountry and among the mountains of the Upstate for thousands of years before the first European settler even arrived. As historian Patrick Minges explains,
No sooner had they set foot on shore near Charleston than [did] the English set about establishing the "peculiar institution" of Native American slavery. Seeking the gold that had changed the face of the Spanish Empire but finding none, the English settlers of the Carolinas quickly seized upon the most abundant and available resource they could attain. The indigenous peoples of the Southeastern United States became, themselves, a commodity on the open market.
Native American tribes in South Carolina were often at war with one another. In consequence, they learned to hunt down and capture members of enemy tribes, selling them to whites as slaves. Others, of course, were captured and sold by the new settlers directly. In either case, Native Americans made up a large share of South Carolina's seventeenth and eighteenth century slave population.
In time, however, white planters began to "phase out" the use of Native Americans on their plantations. For one thing, they had decided that Africans were far better suited to the back-breaking work of cultivating rice than Indians were. For another, black people seemed to have a stronger resistance to white diseases like small pox and yellow fever. And finally, white people learned that if a Native American slave ran away, they probably weren't going to find him again. Native Americans were all too familiar with the nooks and crannies of "the new world." They knew where to hide, and they knew how to find help. If they could escape, they could take refuge in the midst of a nearby tribe.

Nevertheless, strong ties formed between South Carolina's Native Americans and the Africans that were brought to her shore. These ties were especially strong in regards to religion. Minges points out some of the other bonds Indians and blacks shared:

In addition to working together in the fields, they lived together in communal living quarters, began to produce collective recipes for food and herbal remedies, shared myths and legends, and ultimately intermarried. Apart from their collective exploitation at the hands of colonial slavery, Africans and Native Americans possessed similar worldviews rooted in their historic relationship to the subtropical coastlands of the middle Atlantic.
If you are interested in learning more about South Carolina's Native American slaves, you may want to read Minges' article in full. It is called All My Slaves, Whether Negroes, Indians, Mustees, or Molattoes,

lack Ivory – Africa's Export

As with Native Americans, Africans were often sold into slavery by enemy tribes. However, as Christopher C. Boyle points out in his essay Rise of the Georgetown Rice Culture,
The most common reasons for selling tribal members to the Europeans were for offenses against society, such as murder or theft, offenses against the king, or even personal or tribal misfortunes such as indebtedness or tribal famine.
But whatever the reason, he says, "the sale of human lives was profitable for African tribal kings and the European traders as well as the colonial planters."
Small Pox Poster

Most of the slaves brought to South Carolina came from the West Coast of Africa – and more specifically from a region called the Gold Coast. As Johann Martin Bolzius noted in his An Account on Life in the Carolinas in 1750, "The best Negroes come from the Gold Coast in Africa, namely Gambia and Angolo."
However, as Boyle explains, "some slaves, mostly prisoners of inter-tribal warfare, came from as far as 700 miles into the interior of the Africa."

One of the reasons South Carolina planters wanted slaves from the coastal regions of Africa was that they already knew how to grow rice. In fact, Boyle notes that "rice growing had been a dominant part of [coastal] African culture since 1500 BC."

Read A Rice Plantation on the Santee River

Yaiqab Saint Monday, September 7th 2015 at 1:45PM

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by Alan Gallay, Arab News, www.aljazeerah.info

OS ANGELES, 3 August 2003 - When Americans think of slavery, our minds create images of Africans inhumanely crowded aboard ships plying the middle passage from Africa, or of blacks stooped to pick cotton in Southern fields. We don't conjure images of American Indians chained in coffles and marched to ports like Boston and Charleston, and then shipped to other ports in the Atlantic world.

Yet Indian slavery and an Indian slave trade were ubiquitous in early America. From the Atlantic to the Pacific, and from the Gulf of Mexico to Canada, tens of thousands of America's native peoples were enslaved, many of them transported to lands distant from their homes.

Our historical mythology posits that American Indians could not be enslaved in large numbers because they too readily succumbed to disease when exposed to Europeans and they were too wedded to freedom to allow anyone to own them. Yet many indigenous people developed resistance to European diseases after being exposed to the newcomers for well over a century. And it is a racist conception that "inferior" Africans accepted their debased position as slaves - a status that American Indians and Europeans presumably could never have accepted. This is a gross misconception of history.

We are just scratching the surface of what this all means. For the enslavement of Indians forces us to rethink not only the institution of slavery, but the evolution of racism and racist ideologies in America.

In the 17th century, Europeans, Africans and American Indians all accepted slavery as a legitimate social institution. Treatment and status of the enslaved varied greatly from group to group. War captives provided most slaves, though the Europeans made slavery inheritable. Africans and Indians did exchange slaves as commodities, but Europeans introduced an international market economy for labor, as colonial plantation societies developed an insatiable demand for workers, spurring the African slave trade as well as various forms of bond labor for impoverished Europeans.

In the American South, European traders, mostly British colonists operating out of Charleston, South Carolina, engaged local and distant Indians to undertake slaving against their neighbors, who could be made to walk to ships that would carry them to Barbados, New York, Antigua and other ports in the Atlantic world, where they would work as slaves. The South Carolinians used some of these slaves to work their own plantations, but because of the ability of captives to escape over familiar territory among familiar peoples, their captors preferred to export most of them elsewhere. Capital from selling Indian slaves was used to fund plantations and purchase Africans. It was as if one could create capital out of thin air: The only effort lay in capturing the prey and transporting it to market.

Native peoples engaged in slaving for a variety of reasons. In exchange for captives, they received European trade goods. Many also hoped to forge closer relations with the British. To refuse to become slave raiders, they risked becoming categorized as potential victims, with their enemies then filling the role of slavers. The result: A frenzy of slaving infected the region, as natives captured not only their enemies, but people they had never met. Some went farther and captured their friends and allies.

Small-scale raids with attacks on fewer than a dozen people evolved into large-scale wars, with the British and their American-Indian allies seeking captives in the thousands. Extending southward from Charleston, British and native raiders followed attacks upon the native peoples of Georgia with a massive onslaught against Indians on Spanish missions in northern Florida. Systematically, the raiders extended all the way to the Florida Keys.

Simultaneously, the English established important ties with the Chickasaw, who became the key slavers of the lower Mississippi Valley, extending their attacks west of the Mississippi and south to the Gulf of Mexico. The Chickasaw, surrounded by enemies on all sides, used slaving as a way to strengthen themselves at their enemies' expense, but great losses in slaving wars weakened them immensely.

The numbers are difficult to calculate, but I estimate that 30,000 to 50,000, perhaps more, American Indians were exported from Charleston. Thousands more were exported from ports like Boston and Salem, and, on a much smaller scale, by the French from New Orleans. Untold numbers, which scholars are just beginning to calculate, will ultimately include the thousands who were not exported from their region but lived out their lives as slaves on plantations in Virginia, as farm laborers in Connecticut and as domestics in New France. Although the scale of enslavement pales in comparison to the African slave trade, it is notable, for instance, that from 1670 to 1717, far more American Indians were exported from Charleston than Africans were brought in.

Scholars long have known about the Indian slave trade, but the scattered nature of the sources deterred a systematic examination. No one had any conception of the trade's massive extent and that it played such a central role in the lives of early Americans and in the colonial economy.

Indian slavery complicates the narrative we have created of a white-black world, with Indians residing outside on a vaguely defined frontier. The Indian slave trade connects native and European history, so that plantations and Indian communities become entwined. We find planters making more money from slave trading than planting, and if we look more closely we find Indians not only enslaved on plantations but working as police forces to maintain those plantations and receiving substantial rewards for returning runaway slaves.

We are also learning a great deal more about American-Indian peoples. Most importantly we can now tell the stories - the tragedies - that befell so many who were killed in slaving wars or spent their days as slaves far from their homes. They and their peoples have been largely forgotten. The Natchez, Westo, Yamasee, Euchee, Yazoo and Tawasa are among the dozens of Indian peoples who fell victims to the slaving wars, with the survivors forced to join other native communities. These are tales that Indians themselves ha

ve not told: Just as the story of Indian slavery was excluded from the European past, it was largely forgotten in American-Indian traditions.

Americans often wish the past would just go away, save for those symbols we celebrate: Pocahontas saving John Smith, the "noble savage," and the first Thanksgiving. The image of Pilgrims and Indians sharing a meal is one of the most cogent images we have of American Indians and of the colonization of this continent.

Helen Lofton Monday, September 7th 2015 at 2:09PM

My grandmother was half Cherokee and she never said that Blacks were slaves in the tribes. Anybody with common sense would figure out that Indians did not make good slaves because they were known for scalping their enemies. The Indians had no use for slaves because they didn't own plantations. As with all races there are outcast who choose to fit in and be of service to the Slave masters.

Harry Watley Monday, September 7th 2015 at 2:13PM

Mr. Saint,

You say @ Harry
Yes the Natives did and I have photos to proof it and Greg can easily Google this!

However, I did not see any photos in your post to prove that the Native American Indians where standing shoulder to shoulder with White English men buying African slaves at the auction blocks when the slave ships arrived. You are a damn liar!
How silly can you be to warn me not to use auction blocks of a way of getting out of the truth when the auction blocks where the only places that Africans slaves were sold. The auction blocks are one of my forensic evidence that I am right and you want to take it way form me so you can be right. No I won’t go for that.

What you offered as proof was the opinions of authors and not forensic evidence!

Yaiqab Saint Monday, September 7th 2015 at 2:19PM

@Helen

Yes I agree because my Great Grandfather was full Cherokee Indian and my father stated the same thing.

However historic records going back to the 1600'-1700's may bring plausibility to that subject matter because the Natives were played right alongside their brother so-called black americans.

Yaiqab Saint Monday, September 7th 2015 at 2:23PM

@ Harry

You are FINISHED!

Time for you to close-out your charade because I knew you with come with your fake deception!

The records are in the Smithsonian archives (WASHINGTON, D.C.) & Williamsburg, Va records !!!!

robert powell Monday, September 7th 2015 at 6:06PM


SUBJECT

Indians never bought slaves

Please show any photos of Native Indians at the slave auction blocks buying slaves when the slave ships docked like you see the photos of White men buying slaves from the slave traders!

THAT IS TRUE

Cherokee Nation of which my Grandmother's Father was DID like ALL Americans 1492-1864 did

were an AGRARIAN NATION

---as the european paganChristian Practice of going to Africa Asia; stealing, raping, torturing and murdering the native AfricanAsian

-----THE NATIVE AMERICAN DID NOT DO THIS
-----THEY did maintain RUNAWAY SLAVES in their NATION as PROPERTY and BEASTS of Agrarianism

Harry Watley Monday, September 7th 2015 at 6:19PM

Mr. Saint,
How do you square it that Helen agrees with me and you agree with Helen but at the same time you disagree with me!

Helen made the point that the Indians had not need for slaves since they did not have plantations like the White people.

I think that you are interpreting the land scarp wrongly. You don’t understand what you are actually seeing. You are ignorant.

Of course the Indians did not own slaves or else you would have shown me some photos of Indians and White men standing shoulder to shoulder at the auction blocks where only White men bought slaves. You are stupid!

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, September 7th 2015 at 8:58PM

Slavery among Native Americans in the United States


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Statue representing Sacagawea (ca. 1788–1812), a Lemhi Shoshone who was taken captive by the Hidatsa people and sold to Toussaint Charbonneau

Slavery among Native Americans in the United States includes slavery by Native Americans as well as slavery of Native Americans roughly within the present-day United States. Tribal territories and the slave trade ranged over present-day borders. Some Native American tribes held war captives as slaves prior to and during European colonization, some Native Americans were captured and sold by others into slavery to Europeans, and a small number of tribes, in the late eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, adopted the practice of holding slaves as chattel property and held increasing numbers of African-American slaves.

Pre-contact forms of slavery were generally distinct from the form of chattel slavery developed by Europeans in North America during the colonial period. European influence greatly changed slavery used by Native Americans. As they raided other tribes to capture slaves for sales to Europeans, they fell into destructive wars among themselves, and against Europeans.

There is more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_amon...
CHEROKEE SLAVE REVOLT OF 1842: American Indians as Slave Owners
CHEROKEE SLAVE REVOLT OF 1842 ^ | 1996 | Art T. Burton

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By 1860, the Cherokees had 4,600 slaves; the Choctaws, 2,344; the Creeks, 1,532; the Chickasaws, 975; and the Seminoles, 500. Some Indian slave owners were as harsh and cruel as any white slave master. Indians were often hired to catch runaway slaves; in fact, slave-catching was a lucrative way of life for some Indians, especially the Chickasaws.

Black slavery in America usually evokes images of the antebellum South, but few realize that members of the Five Civilized Tribes--the Cherokees, Choctaws, Chickasaws, Creeks, and Seminoles--in Indian Territory, today's Oklahoma, also had slaves. Like their counterparts in the South, Indian slaveholders feared slave revolts. Those fears came true in 1842 when slaves in the Cherokee Nation made a daring dash for freedom.

Here's more history that native Americans did own Black Americans as slaves: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/655...

Stop telling this LIE about the Native Americans and live with the truth because this LIE of yours is to easy to refute.










Helen Lofton Monday, September 7th 2015 at 9:41PM

I'm going by information from the mouth of my grandmother. She told me that as a child she was taken away from her tribe by gypsy's who took her and others to plantations. What was so amazing was that this was after slavery was suppose to be over!

Harry Watley Tuesday, September 8th 2015 at 2:53AM

Attention to all:

What I see that is happening is that all of you don’t understand what plantation slavery was and who legally bought and owned slaves of White and African descendants during the era of the 1500 to 1865 when Pres. Lincoln ended plantation slavery.

The only people that legally bought and owned slaves were White English men who also owned cotton plantations all through the South and not Native American Indians since White people were constantly taking this country from them that they finally ended up on reservations.

There is no forensic evidence of Native American Indians standing shoulder to shoulder with White men at the auction block purchasing African slaves just of the slave ships. You all are stupid!

The Native American Indians did not have slaves. They had run aways from the real slave owners who were exclusively White me.

You all are not able to think analytically and reason rationally either.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Tuesday, September 8th 2015 at 8:38AM

Did you read my links that shows us proof that the Cherokees had 4,600 slaves; the Choctaws, 2,344; the Creeks, 1,532; the Chickasaws, 975; and the Seminoles, owned 500 Black American slaves? Now if you read my link then why are you turning your back on historical FACES?

Live with the truth and deal with the FACTS. Being willfully ignorant benefits no one harry, not even you. read my information and lets talk.

robert powell Tuesday, September 8th 2015 at 9:56AM


SUBJECT

Indians never bought slaves

Please show any photos of Native Indians at the slave auction blocks buying slaves when the slave ships docked like you see the photos of White men buying slaves from the slave traders!

AGAIN, THAT IS TRUE!!!!!!!!!!! .................... no Native bid on an African kidnapped new arrival....

............... Americans use the term slavery in 2015; LIGHTLY

-------------------------- meaning whatever European paganChristians want to take responsibility for!

BUT

Americans in 1492-1864 ---------DID SLAVERY!

----1492-1864 SLAVERY---was the GENERATIONAL theft, RAPE-maleFemale-, TORTURE, pedophilia Etal, and Murder of African Asians...........for use as beasts on fields and homes...........

THERE is NO DEFINITION in 2015 or 1915 that fits the REAL TRUTH of SLAVERY AmericanStyle 1492-1864.....

but a 2015 person that calls self 'blackHebrewIsraelite' writes

"....Being willfully ignorant benefits no one harry, not even you. read my information and lets talk...."

Tuesday, September 8th 2015 at 8:38AM
Deacon Ron Gray

********************This deacon writer is STEREOTYPICALLY uneducated in this thinking......

He bullies a 68 IQ retardant-harry....--NOT REALIZING that he is Crazier and Nuttier than Harry Watley

AND ........... should REREAD his own LYING, Misconceived words for himself.......



Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Tuesday, September 8th 2015 at 10:41AM

Hey Robert, did the Native American own Black Americans as slaves?

Yaiqab Saint Tuesday, September 8th 2015 at 11:48AM

@ROBERT

Definitions of holding captives , spoils of war, indentured servants, chattel slavery, can be confusing and interpreted differently by many.

But the facts remains that those stupid tribal indians, indian scouts in particular got played and had alliances with the British, Irish, Scottish, Irish, plantation owners.

They also held captives among other tribes prior to the Caucasians landing on these shores.

The Aztecs were extremely cruel to the Hopi's of Arizona/New Mexico in particular with their land grabs.



robert powell Tuesday, September 8th 2015 at 12:16PM


Yaiqab,
It is refreshing to communicate with an Educated person at BIA and I have No difference of opinion with what you wrote..............

Definitions are so important

..........BOTTOM LINE.........NO nativeAmerican from Tierra delFuego to the Artic Ocean was EVER involved in the GENERATIONAL slaverAmericana 1492-1864 paganChristian europeanRacist EVIL actions committed against the Family of Adaam(as) that Europeans STOLE from Africa Asia.............

therefore the argument of the 68 IQ retardant is VALID and the racistlyIgnorant rants of the deacon 'blackHebrewIsraelite' are another example of europeanRACIST ignorance...............

yes in war the nativeAmerican clans secured captives cruelly before the paganChristians arrived in America;

AND YES,

the members of the Cherokee Nations and others that accepted the paganChristian definitions did for a SHORT time maintain AfricanAsian agrarianWorkers that had escaped from Generational paganChristianity and the EVIL, Decadent slaverAmericana 1492-1864.........

Harry Watley Tuesday, September 8th 2015 at 3:41PM

Mr. Deacon,

Like I said; the slaves that were with the different Indian tribes were run-aways from White owned plantations.

The Indians could not have had slaves because they had never purchased any slaves from the auction block were the Whites purchased their slaves.

I am not going to keep saying the same thing over and over to you time and time again. Your links are wrong just like Donald Webster is wrong when he printed in his dictionary that Adam and Eve was the first two people God created.
Mr. Adam and Mrs. Eve were a Jewish couple since the story originated from a Jewish prophet named Moses.

White slave-masters had paper work on their slaves. The Indians did not have paper work.

Before, you believe others believe me first! You are STUPID!

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Tuesday, September 8th 2015 at 4:19PM

Harry,

We are not talking about Adam or Eve. Which links are wrong? These links are from historical FACT and not from something of conjure my BOY!

Harry Watley Wednesday, September 9th 2015 at 12:46PM

our dialogue is over, am sorry!

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Wednesday, September 9th 2015 at 4:40PM

What is the matter Harry? All I did was to ask you to take a look at the FACTS about The Native American owning Black Americans as slaves and now you want to run like hell, from the truth, WOW!

You don't have to do that, just say that you see the light and stop this LIE about the Native American because they did own Black Americans as slaves.

By you running like that means you can not provide proof of your point.



Harry Watley Wednesday, September 9th 2015 at 6:54PM

Mr. Deacon,

I’ll explain to you why I am running. So, this will be my last comment to you! You don’t have the IQ to see that I wasn’t talking about Adam and Eve. I was talking about Donald Webster being wrong about thinking Adam and Eve was the first two people God created and that is not true because Adam and Eve were a metaphoric Jewish couple and does not represent the creation of human-kind.
No one would expect Donald Webster to be wrong and no one would expect that I would be the only one to prove that Donald Webster is wrong!

So, I am not talking about Adam and Eve. I am talking about Donald Webster.

In addition, I’ve been asking you provide me with photos of Native American Indians purchasing African slaves at the auction blocks where White men were buying African slaves and you were not able to do so.

Now, when I have to stop and explain this to you so you can catch up slows me down and frustrates me at the same time. When you are stupid you are just plain stupid and stupidity is some I can’t cope with so I don’t want to dialogue with you any future.

If you are not seriously minded please don’t bother with me!

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Wednesday, September 9th 2015 at 10:17PM

I see that you have not looked at the proof that I put right in front of your face yet. You won't even talk about information I found to show you that will bring some clarity to this disinformation about The Native American history that your are spreading.

You have no clue of what's the information that is contained in those links and you have the nerve to udder the word "SERIOUS" to me.

Run on harry, because you can't handle the truth.

You know, I do believe you, when you say, that you are sorry.

Harry Watley Wednesday, September 9th 2015 at 11:35PM

show me a fu*king photo of the Native American Indians at the slave block buying African slaves like the White man.

There are photos of the White man. Where are the photos of the Indians ass-hole?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, September 10th 2015 at 9:50AM

Calm down harry before you blow up. See that is what's wrong with you now, you don't read. Live with the truth and deal with the FACT'S. Pictures of the Native American buying Black Slaves don't mean that this practice did not happen.

You are acting like the Native American did not practice some form of slavery before the Europeans came to the America's.

Since you are looking for pictures harry, picture this in your minds eye as you read these historical FACTS. about The Native American.

Benjamin Hawkins, Superintendent of the tribes south of the Ohio River from the late eighteenth century through the early nineteenth, encouraged the major Southeast tribes to adopt chattel slavery in order to have labor for plantations and large-scale agricultural production, as part of their assimilation of European-American ways. The pressures from European Americans to assimilate, the economic shift of furs and deerskins, and the government's continued attempts to civilize native tribes in the south led to them adopting an economy based on agriculture[Some of the five civilized tribes had also acquired African American slaves as plunder from during the Revolutionary War which was allowed by their British allies."

HARRY, this is what happen and the reason why Black American's was sold to the Native American, now picture that! They was encouraged to hold Black Slaves for free labor, in order to assimilate into the white culture.

The Cherokee was the tribe that held the most slaves. In 1809, they held nearly 600 enslaved blacks. This number increased to almost 1,600 in 1835, and to around 4,000 by 1860, after they had removed to Indian Territory. Cherokee populations for these dates are: 12,400 in 1809;, 16,400 in 1835; and 21,000 in 1860.[2] The proportion of Cherokee families who owned slaves did not exceed ten percent, and was comparable to the percentage among white families across the South, where a slaveholding elite owned most of the laborers. In the 1835 census, only eight percent of Cherokee households contained slaves, and only three Cherokee owned more than 50 slaves. Joseph Vann had the most, owning 110 like other major planters. Of the Cherokee who owned slaves, 83 percent held fewer than 10 slaves. Of the slave-owning families, 78 percent claimed some white ancestry.

Now with these FACTS presented to you how The Native American got some of there slaves, you can see not all descendants of slaves came by some plantation white thugs. The Native American inter married with there slaves. In the north a small number of Black Americans came to this country as indentured servant's and gained there freedom after seven years, also they owned slaves in the case of Dred Scot Supreme Court decision and I might add, there was no white man breeding process there neither.

Now in, today's findings through DNA testing, we find 3 out of 10 Black Americans has European bloodline connection to the white man after some 300 years of breeding with there slaves, as you call it. 3 out of 10 of us have the connection and you call 7 out of 10 PHONY BLACKS.

Now, 3% of the Black American population don't add up to 41 million Black American people, some new breed of people that you will lead to a god that did not make us but according to you, the white thug as plantation owners did out of some damn ashes. Can you picture that?

The time is over, DROP THIS LIE HARRY because you are wrong as hell and the truth is not in it nowhere.






Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, September 10th 2015 at 12:26PM

Here's how this all started in the first place. Instead of making his comments on Brother Dr. Gregory V. Boulware's blog, Harry decides to create this one. Let us take this topic back to the original place.

http://blackinamerica.com/content/285221/a...

Harry Watley Thursday, September 10th 2015 at 3:13PM

Mr. Deacon,

Again, show photos of Native American Indians buying African slaves at the auction block where the old White American slave-masters purchased their slaves!

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, September 10th 2015 at 3:43PM

Harry,

You can't show me photo's of any Black Americans being sold at the auction block neither but that don't mean that the sales of Black slaves did not happen.



Harry Watley Thursday, September 10th 2015 at 3:53PM

Mr. Deacon,

You have two choices, either you show photos of Native American Indians buying African slaves at the auction block like the Whites or admit you are wrong that the Indians did not own slaves because they wasn’t at the auction block like the White man buying African slaves!

You are fu*king stupid because you can not analytically think and rationally reason! You are dumb!

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, September 10th 2015 at 7:30PM

Harry,

What happen to us bubba, you couldn't find no photo's of the white man buying any Black Americans at the auction block neither? Judging by your twisted logic, the Black American was not in slavery and we could not have breed with the Black American because there is no photo's of that neither.

If we can't show any photo's of the white man buying any Black Americans then we are doomed Bubba, we can't say we have any southern pride.

Now Harry, if you had any photo's of the white man buying Black Americans, you would shown them by now and not brought me this two choice BS.

History proves that the white man was not the only one who owned slaves in this country, whites, Native Americans and Blacks owned slaves in this country and that is a unrefuterable FACT.

You lost this one Bubba because you have no facts to backup your BS. This is far, far to easy.

Harry Watley Thursday, September 10th 2015 at 7:57PM

we not getting anywhere!

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, September 11th 2015 at 7:30AM

We are getting somewhere HARRY. Now we all know that you are just talk and can not back-up a damn thing you have said to prove your point about The Native American, owning slaves or about this Black American being a new race of people BS neither.

By the way harry, "How is that finding a photo's of the white man buying The Black American on the auction block, coming? Using your logic, if you can't find a photo, then slavery did not happen. Do you see how foolish you sound?

Now who in the world is going to believe your BS harry? We are getting somewhere and you have lead the path, you lost this point and stop your LIES, NOW!!!!


robert powell Friday, September 11th 2015 at 9:23AM


SUBJECT
Indians never bought slaves.
Please show any photos of Native Indians at the slave auction blocks buying slaves when the slave ships docked like you see the photos of White men buying slaves from the slave traders!

and the 'blackHebrewIsraelite' finally writes one intelligent thought

"......practice some form of slavery...."

Thursday, September 10th 2015 at 9:50AM
Deacon Ron Gray

************************************************

there are FORMS of SLAVERY?

what are they 'blackHebrewIsraelite?

what is your definition of slavery?

Again, harry the 68 IQ retardant of History, Scholarship and Science is CORRECT---- NO nativeAmerican EVER in History, Scholarship, Video or Painting----was at any Port during slaverAmericana 1492-1864, where Europeans were auctioning off African people ........ buying ANYTHING, cleaning ANYTHING or even DYING.........

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, September 11th 2015 at 1:40PM


You have missed the boat too Robert, Harry simply asked to show a photo of any Native American buying Black Americans that the auction block, photo's and nothing else. If you could read with understanding, I showed him a link where PHD's, doctors and professors in history claim that The Native American did own Black Slaves, married, and had children with the Native American.

Then I asked him to provide me with a photo's of The White Plantation owner buying a Black American at the auction block and he could not do that neither.

We both know that the slave trade happened.

Now can't you see that?


Harry Watley Friday, September 11th 2015 at 5:38PM

Mr. Deacon,

You are a liar! You did not me a photo of Native American Indians buying African slaves at the auction block.

You showed me exactly what you said you showed me. You showed me a fu*king link! A link is not a photo of Native American Indians buying African slaves!

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, September 11th 2015 at 7:04PM

Hay Harry,

I did show you a link with the attention that you click on it and we can have a dialog on what you discovered there.

I also asked you to show me a photo of any plantation slave owners buying Black Americans slaves as well, which you have not done yet, why is that? If I can't find any photo's of Native Americans buying Black Americans on the auction block, do that really mean, that Native Americans did not own slaves like you claimed?

This is far, far too damn easy to put this BS in check.

By the way Harry, now is that search for photo's of the white man buying Black Americans at the auction block coming? Have you found any yet?

robert powell Friday, September 11th 2015 at 7:48PM


this is a racistlyIgnorant bully question..........'blackHebrewIsraelite'

".....By the way Harry, now is that search for photo's of the white man buying Black Americans at the auction block coming? Have you found any yet?...."


Friday, September 11th 2015 at 7:04PM
Deacon Ron Gray

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from 1492-1868 NO africanAsian was an American

we KNOW from History, Scholarship and Science that AfricanAsian slaves became Americans in 1868---13/14th Admendment to CONSTITUTION..............

so there NEVER were or SHOULD have been ANYONE buying people at an AUCTION after 1868

that is another reason why the 68 IQ Retardant is INCORRECT about 'black'Americans

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, September 11th 2015 at 7:52PM

Robert,

Thank You...

Harry Watley Saturday, September 12th 2015 at 2:06PM

Mr. Deacon,

You said that you showed me a link and I’ll say it again that a link is not a photo! These are the reasons why I have the right to call you fu*king stupid because you do the same thing over and over expecting a different result.

I asked to see phots of Native American Indians buying African slaves at the auction block along with the old White slave masters where Africans slave where sold and bought. No other places were Africans slaves were sold and bought.

The Africans that where with the Indian tribes were run-aways you dumb-ass hole! You still have not produced a photo! A photo is forensic evidence. You have no evidence of Indians buying African slaves.

This is my last comment. We still not getting anywhere.

Harry Watley Saturday, September 12th 2015 at 2:12PM

Did the constitution of Egypt made the Children of Israel Egyptians? The answer is fu*king NO! So, how could the White man’s constitution make Black Americans White Americans when Black Americans and White Americans are racially two different people?

You all are ass-holes thinkers! Your brains are worth **** because you all can not analytically think and rationally reason.

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