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You and most "scientists" ALWAYS sound good and use a lot of I's ..... as in selfish silly me, me, meISM ..LIKE

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".....I almost don't want to post anything about climate change .......one cannot pick when a battle will begin.

I like what Scientific American said (I apologize I couldn't find it for this post),

that instead of talking about the heating of the globe,.....

........"We The People want evidence based SCIENCE........

That got me into a spirited conversation with a gentleman that obviously had deep religious convictions......

Some of the things I pointed out:

- A 6,000-year-old universe limits Deity ("How do scientists know how old the universe is?"). An ~ 13.6 billion year universe is far more expansive, and does show the limit of our technology - that's as far as our telescopes can see......

- I reviewed with him the Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation, discovered accidentally by American radio astronomers Arno Penzias and Robert Wilson in 1964...

This is evidence of an expansion and colloquially coined as "The Big Bang."

- In 1979, the Nobel in Physics was won by Abdus Salam, Sheldon Lee Glashow, Steven Weinberg .......," two of my life's greatest thrills. I mentioned them because Abdus Salam (deceased) was a devote Muslim; I'm betting Dr. Weinberg is at least an agnostic....

- I continued the discussion with the 1887 Michelson–Morley experiment that measured the speed of light by Albert A. Michelson and Edward W. Morley at what was then Case School of Applied Science

- Michelson was a practicing Christian.
They were the "shoulders of giants" opined by Sir Isaac Newton and the foundation for the Special Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein.

- That led to a discussion of The Scientific Method and Theory.......

Scientific theory has to be proven in experiment, or discarded. I explained that was the unifier in the scientific enterprise: Agnostics, Atheists, Buddhists, Christians, Muslims et al are welcome to the table of inquiry as long as one forms a null hypothesis;

an aleph null hypothesis and after experiment and evaluation able to prove it, replicate it in controlled conditions elsewhere and stand up to peer review (and if it doesn't), be willing to throw it out like "luminiferous ether".

......everything I said was a mouthful, but when people ask questions out of a sincere desire to KNOW, I answer as best I can.

What I don't know, I try to point them in the right direction.....

There is a "disdain for expertise," and that phrase can lead to a plethora of search engine results.

The current, rampant anti-intellectualism is as American-born as Eugenics, ...... and mentioned by the Executive Mansion's current resident in his bigoted, misogynistic, nationalistic, xenophobic campaign......

Last week the US House of Representatives passed a bill, the HONEST Act, that would prevent the EPA from basing any of its regulations on science that is not publicly accessible ........

“The days of ‘trust me’ science are over.”........

There is a comforting narcissism in willful ignorance, but it is lethal to constitutional republics......"

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BLAH, BLAH, BLLAAAAAAH.........trump$ette did not begin the erosion of The Home of the Family of Adaam(as)

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the European "scientific" mind has ALWAYS been a "FLAT EARTH" thinking, acting community....

----- this European "FLAT EARTH" thinking, acting community.....has given Mankind:

1. the Human Division by Racialistic Racism and its Ignorance of Observation and Data

2. and the primary(BY FAR) Reason for 'globalWarming'

---- the EXPLOSIONS of BOMBS...the ones going OFF in Africa Asia Today by 2017 European "FLAT EARTH" thinkers

ps....

the ONLY group that Believes in a....

" A 6,000-year-old universe limits Deity

("How do paganChristian European racistlyIgnorant scientists know how old the universe is?").

You asked: http://physics4thecool.blogspot.com/2014/0...

Thank you for reinforcing that the European "scientific" mind has ALWAYS been a "FLAT EARTH" thinking/acting community

----- this European "FLAT EARTH" thinking, acting community.....has given Mankind:

1. the Human Division by Racialistic Racism and its Ignorance of Observation and Data

2. and the primary(BY FAR) Reason for 'globalWarming'

- the EXPLOSIONS of 1-2000 pound uranium infused BOMBS

...to destroy the Scholarship and SCIENCE recorded for 6000+ YEARS of Africa Asia Today ...2017

by the children and active enablers of European "FLAT EARTH" thinking

ps....

the major group that Believes in a....

" A 6,000-year-old universe limits Deity 'scientifically' from their Theories and incoherent propositions and thoughts;

are euroChristians --------NOT African Asian Monotheistic Believers"

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".....This rate, or knowledge of how long this process should take, is how scientists date something using this method.

However, it is not without some controversy as decay rates may have been accelerated, or at least different in the distant past.

However, the key to this method is what's measured originates from living things.

The decay eventually leads to 210Pb (Lead).

Moon rocks brought back from the Apollo missions are even older, and used as a comparison to the oldest rocks found on Earth, thus 4.54 billion years is the usual time scale given for the age of the globe, give-or-take a few million years (4).

Geologic time is admittedly an approximation,

and not as precise as any notion of "exactness", but it is the best estimate of how old the planet is that's reported.

Dr. Roger C. Wiens gives a primer on radiometric dating "from a Christian Perspective

Many are also unaware that Bible-believing Christians are among those actively involved in radiometric dating.

"......That is an admittance that may disturb some on both sides of a politically contrived "debate." "

Thank You Dr. Goodwin.....

I think the point was The Scientific Method is the ecumenical "glue" in the sciences and research. It allows many from diverse backgrounds, cultures and belief systems to interact and contribute towards a common goal without bias or filter.

An understanding sadly bereft from our current national discourse.