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IS IT ISLAMIC OR ISLAMIST?

IS IT ISLAMIC OR ISLAMIST?

Steve Williams · Sunday, May 21st 2017 at 8:49AM · 776 views
Now that even the tolerant, liberal Swedes have elected an anti-Islam party to their Parliament, it’s pretty clear that such controversies are mounting because both the left and the right are confused over the politics of Islam. The left is wrongly defending Islamism—an extremist and at times violent ideology—which it confuses with the common person’s Islam, while the right is often wrongly attacking the Muslim faith, which it confuses with Islamism. Western thinkers must begin to recognize the difference between Islamism and Islam, or we are headed toward an ideologically defined battle with one quarter of humanity.

At least a few on the left are defending Islamism because they think that they are defending Islam. Recently, a European policymaker told us that she had become sympathetic to Turkey’s governing Justice and Development Party (AKP) because “in the post-September 11 world, I wanted to defend Islam.” Well, the AKP, and other Islamist movements such as the Muslim Brotherhood in the Arab world, do not represent Islam. These Islamist parties, even when not using violence, stand for an ideology that is illiberal to its core—for instance, its refusal to recognize gender equality. In the same way that communism once claimed to speak for the working class, Islamism claims to represent Muslims. By defending radical Islamist movements, the left is helping only to give Muslims a bad name. The left ought to side not with so-called moderate Islamist parties, but rather with liberal Muslim movements, such as the Republican People’s Party in Turkey and the pro-democracy movement in Egypt, which support gender equality.

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robert powell Sunday, May 21st 2017 at 9:00AM

IS IT ISLAMIC OR ISLAMIST?

SUBJECT

And the Answer is....

1.----- Islamic is an African Asian Term transliteration from Hebrew, Aramaic or Arabic that MEANS.

The way the Creator of Adaam(as) has Fashioned the UNIVERSE

2.-----Islamist is a Term USED in racistlyIgnorant paganSocieties.....

Islamist is from the same Dictionary of the nativeAmerican Genociders and SLAVERS of American oldies

Islamist is from the same Dictionary used to call the Native....Redskin....AND African.....migger

----

ps

Always ready to Educate the racistlyIgnorant and Confused.....

Steve Williams Sunday, May 21st 2017 at 9:01AM

President Trump will shortly address the GCC on the subject of Islamist extremism and Islamist terrorism.

Steve Williams Sunday, May 21st 2017 at 9:03AM

So what do the GCC call these outlaws?

robert powell Sunday, May 21st 2017 at 9:04AM


President Trump will shortly address the GCC on the subject of Islamist extremism and Islamist terrorism.
Sunday, May 21st 2017 at 9:01AM
Steve Williams

President Trump will shortly address the GCC on the subject of Islamist extremism and Islamist terrorism; terms the GCC and Other Muslim Nations Invited HAVE no KNOWLEDGE of......

Steve Williams Sunday, May 21st 2017 at 10:00AM

So what do they call it Robert? I heard a Muslim comment on an hadith, to the effect that when the Prophet was asked about the greatest danger to Islam to come, it would be from those whose belief reached no farther than their throats. Which Hadith was she referencing? What do you call these people the Prophet was talking about?

Steve Williams Sunday, May 21st 2017 at 11:18AM

I heard the words Islamism and Islamic terrorism just once.

robert powell Sunday, May 21st 2017 at 12:20PM


"....I heard a Muslim comment on an hadith....Which Hadith was she referencing? What do you call these people the Prophet was talking about? ...."

Sunday, May 21st 2017 at 10:00AM
Steve Williams

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1. You only know the 'she'---- I DO NOT

2. You only know the hadeeth 'she' refered-- I DO NOT

Hadeeth are the sayings, actions and explanation of The Revelation and words of the Creator of Adaam(as) OF:

The Greatest of the Creation.....Mohamed(saw)

----- his sayings, actions and explanation of The Revelation and words of the Creator of Adaam(as) are MANY

THEY ARE and have BEEN Recorded in African Asian Language of Monotheism for about 1400+ years

Be specific and use some Intelligence......

Steve Williams Sunday, May 21st 2017 at 1:40PM

She didn't say which hadeeth. I didn't make a note of her exact words, just going by the best of my recollection and thought I'd start my search with you Robert. I'll see if I can find more.

Steve Williams Sunday, May 21st 2017 at 4:59PM

Aḥmad, Muslim, and Ibn Mājah recorded a Ḥadīth from Abū Dharr who narrated that Allah’s messenger (صَلَّى اللهُ عََلْيهِ َوسَلَّم) said:
ِإنَّبَعْدِيمِنُْأمَّتِيأَوْسَيَُكونُبَعْدِيمِنُْأمَّتِيَقْومٌَيْقرَءُونَاْلُقرْآنَلاُيجَاوِزُ حَلاِقيمَهُمَْيْخرُُجونَمِنْالدِّينِ َكمَاَيْخرُجُالسَّهُْممِنْالَّرمَِّيةِثُمَّلايَُعودُونَ ِفيِه هُ ْم َشُّر الْخَلْقِ َوالْخَلِيقَةِ
“There will definitely be a people after me from my nation who recite the Quran yet it will not even reach beyond their throats. They will pass through the religion as an arrow passes through a target, then they will not return back to it. They are the worst of people, the worst of all creatures.”
Ibn al-Ṣāmit, who narrated the Ḥadīth from Abū Dharr, said, “I met Rāfi’ Ibn ‘Amr al- Ghifārī and asked him about this Ḥadīth of Abū Dharr. He said, “I (too) heard it from 3 ”.)صَلَّى اللهُ عََلْيهِ َوسَلَّم( Allah’s messenger

robert powell Monday, May 22nd 2017 at 8:25AM


Aḥmad, Muslim, and Ibn Mājah recorded a Ḥadīth from Abū Dharr who narrated that Allah’s messenger (صَلَّى اللهُ عََلْيهِ وسَلَّم) said:
إنَّبَعْدِيمِنُْأمَّتِيأَوْسَيَُكونُبَعْدِيمِنُْأمَّتِيَقْومٌَيْقرَءُونَاْلُقرْآنَلاُيجَاوِزُ حَلاِقيمَهُمَْيْخرُُجونَمِنْالدِّينِ كمَاَيْخرُجُالسَّهُْممِنْالَّرمَِّيةِثُمَّلايَُعودُونَ فيِه هُ م شُّر الْخَلْقِ والْخَلِيقَةِ
“There will definitely be a people after me from my nation who recite the Quran yet it will not even reach beyond their throats. They will pass through the religion as an arrow passes through a target, then they will not return back to it. They are the worst of people, the worst of all creatures.”
Ibn al-Ṣāmit, who narrated the Ḥadīth from Abū Dharr, said, “I met Rāfi’ Ibn ‘Amr al- Ghifārī and asked him about this Ḥadīth of Abū Dharr. He said, “I (too) heard it from 3 ”.)صَلَّى اللهُ عََلْيهِ وسَلَّم( Allah’s messenger

Sadaka Allaah wal Atheem

Aḥmad, Muslim, and Ibn Mājah RECORDED a Great Hadeeth......May Allaah Reward them

---- and NO where in that Hadeeth in the African Asian Language of Arabic or English is '....islamism...."

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