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Presidential debate: Trump wouldn't condemn white supremacists, tells far-right extremists 'Stand back and stand by' By KATHLEEN RONAYNE and MICHAEL KUNZELMAN WASHINGTON -- President Donald Trump on Wednesday tried to walk back his refusal to outright condemn a far right fascist group during his debate with Democrat Joe Biden, but the inflammatory moment was far from the first time the president has failed to denounce white supremacists or has advanced racist ideas. Trump's initial refusal to criticize the Proud Boys - instead saying the group should "stand back and stand by" - drew fierce blowback before he altered his message in a day-later effort to quell the firestorm. "I don't know who Proud Boys are. But whoever they are they have to stand down, let law enforcement do their work," Trump told reporters as he left the White House for a campaign stop in Minnesota. The new flareup over Trump's messaging on race was playing out just weeks before the election, leaving the president to play defense on yet another issue when he's already facing criticism of his handling of the coronavirus pandemic and under new scrutiny over his taxes. And even after saying the Proud Boys should "stand down," Trump went on call out forces on the other end of the political spectrum and tried to attack Biden. It was an echo of the way he had blamed "both sides" for the 2017 violence between white supremacists and anti-racist protesters in Charlottesville, Virginia. "Now antifa is a real problem," Trump said. "The problem is on the left. And Biden refuses to talk about it." In fact, FBI Director Christopher Wray told a congressional panel last week that it was white supremacists and anti-government extremists who have been responsible for most of the recent deadly attacks by extremist groups in the U.S. READ MORE: https://abc7chicago.com/politics/trump-to-...
Posted By: Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Wednesday, September 30th 2020 at 8:04PM
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Did you believe Mr. Trump when he says "I don't know who Proud Boys are?"
Thursday, October 1st 2020 at 1:35PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Would you like to silence the Proud Boys?
Thursday, October 1st 2020 at 1:40PM
Steve Williams
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Steve, Relax!!! You don't have to be on the defensive. The general question was: Did you believe Mr. Trump when he says "I don't know who Proud Boys are?"
Thursday, October 1st 2020 at 8:08PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Are those the Proud Boys there in that picture?
Thursday, October 1st 2020 at 8:37PM
Steve Williams
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The general question was: Did you believe Mr. Trump when he says "I don't know who Proud Boys are?"
Did you see this video report Steve? Because the answer to your question is in the content.
Thursday, October 1st 2020 at 8:44PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I saw it Ron. You don't know who the Proud Boys are.
Friday, October 2nd 2020 at 2:17AM
Steve Williams
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I did not ask you about "IT" now answer the question.
Only from this report Steve. Did you believe Mr. Trump when he says "I don't know who Proud Boys are?"
Friday, October 2nd 2020 at 6:41AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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The President knows a whole lot more than you do Ron. That includes the Proud Boys. Your picture is not of the Proud Boys idiot. Even I know that.
Friday, October 2nd 2020 at 12:26PM
Steve Williams
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Did you go back to review this video report because if you did, you would have seen that photo. Stop your BULL 💩 and be a man and watch this report.
Friday, October 2nd 2020 at 1:54PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I watched it Ron and I didn't see the Proud Boys.
Friday, October 2nd 2020 at 2:13PM
Steve Williams
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I just watched again and still NO PROUD BOYS.
Friday, October 2nd 2020 at 2:19PM
Steve Williams
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The picture take you seek is found at 01 minute and 38 seconds Steve, tell me what you see there?
Friday, October 2nd 2020 at 5:12PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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That's some other group Ron.
Friday, October 2nd 2020 at 6:44PM
Steve Williams
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Did you see that picture at 01 minute and 38 seconds Steve?
Friday, October 2nd 2020 at 6:51PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Yes Ron. Here are your choices, less the PROUD BOYS of course.
Descriptions Of The Categories
Southern Nationalists: Examples of this designation include KKK, League of the South, Identity Dixie, etc.
White Nationalists: This is a big category. Examples of this designation include National Socialists, Traditional Workers Party, National Association for the Advancement of White People (NAAWP), Aryans, American Freedom Party, AmRen, folkish/kinists/asatru, vinlanders, skinheads, Soldiers of Odin.
Alt-Right: These groups self-describe by name as “Alt Right”
Proud Boys & Alt-Knights: Examples of these groups include Proud Boys, Alt-Knights, Fellowship of Alt-Knights (FOAK), Based stickman enthusiast groups, etc.
Militia, OathKeepers, 3%: These groups self-describe as OathKeepers, militias, or 3%/iii% groups
Friday, October 2nd 2020 at 6:56PM
Steve Williams
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So you did see that same picture of The Proud Boys at 01 minute and 38 seconds of this report, the same photo that answers your question Steve?
Friday, October 2nd 2020 at 8:52PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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The PROUD BOYS don't use the insignia in your photo Ron. Do you want me to find out who those people are?
Friday, October 2nd 2020 at 9:02PM
Steve Williams
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So you did see that same picture of The Proud Boys at 01 minute and 38 seconds of this report, the same photo that answers your question Steve?
Did you see that same photo? That is all I asked you.
Friday, October 2nd 2020 at 9:20PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I guess we all look the same to you, huh Ron?
Friday, October 2nd 2020 at 9:21PM
Steve Williams
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LAUGHTER..... Not when you get to know one, like I know you Steve.
Now I answered your question, now answer mine: So YOU did see that same picture of The Proud Boys at 01 minute and 38 seconds of this report, the same photo that answers your question Steve?
Did you see that same photo? That is all I asked you.
Friday, October 2nd 2020 at 9:32PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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The picture at the top of your blog is shown at 1;38 of your video. The logo proves they are Vanguard America. Look it up at SPLC yourself.
Friday, October 2nd 2020 at 9:41PM
Steve Williams
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Steve, my focus was to get you to see that the photo is the same as the photo at the beginning of the blog, that is futured at 01 minute and 38 seconds of this report, that answered your question.
Now that you said that you acknowledged that you seen that same photo, the question that I asked you is now complete. "YOU DID SEE THAT SAME PHOTO AND THAT WAS MY POINT IN THE FIRST PLACE, WOW!!!
Now you say that the people in photo is another White Hate Group was NOT my point at all. All I ASKED you about was: "Did you see that same photo? That is all I asked you."
Just look how long it took to realize that FACT, Why al that do you bring all of that BULL 💩 with you, when the answer is right in front of your face, which you said you seen? Are you mentally challenged or WHAT?
Saturday, October 3rd 2020 at 11:04AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Good, let's move on then. Trump also knows those people aren't the Proud Boys. He knows that your entire video is fake news.
Saturday, October 3rd 2020 at 11:28AM
Steve Williams
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That's BULL 💩 Steve and you know it to be true. The next morning after he told The Proud Boys to Stand Down and Stand-by Trump tells the people in a press conference that He did not know who The Proud boys was.
“I don’t know who the Proud Boys are,” Trump told reporters on the White House lawn as he departed for a campaign trip to Minnesota, after his Tuesday night remark earned widespread condemnation. “I really don’t know what they are. I can only say they have to stand down, let law enforcement do their work,” Trump said.
Trump: ‘I Don’t Know Who the Proud Boys Are’ https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/...
Donald Trump Says He Doesn't Know Who Proud Boys Are After Group Jumps on His 'Stand By' Debate Comment https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/do...
Trump says he doesn't know who Proud Boys are, says 'let law enforcement do their work' https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-pro...
Steve, is this enough proof for to STOP TELLING THAT DAMN LIE to anyone else. Fox News is telling you that you are WRONG as HELL. Trump says "THAT HE DID NOT KNOW WHO THE PROUD BOYS WAS, on why are you tell me that he did know and you know that to be a DAMN LIE in the first place or is that is what your life is based on?.
STEVE, you don't have to LIE like this because LYING makes you look bad when the TRUTH comes out and Trump is a Prime example. Steve, the evidence is right in front RIGHT NOW. Clean that 💩 from your eyes and look around you. WOW!!!
Let MOVE ON.
Saturday, October 3rd 2020 at 12:19PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I'm not responsible for what the President thinks he does or doesn't know. There was no question in the debate that he knew the name PROUD BOYS. Everyone has heard of them but as you prove Ron, not everyone knows who they ARE. Still, you and the press will still ask your silly questions.
Saturday, October 3rd 2020 at 2:46PM
Steve Williams
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What makes you think that I feel you should be responsible for what the President thinks he does or doesn't know?
I know that you are not A MEMBER OF Trump's staff (LAUGHTER)
Then why did you make this remark: Trump also knows those people aren't the Proud Boys. He knows that your entire video is fake news.
YOU DON"T KNOW 💩 ABOUT WHAT TRUMP KNOWS.
Saturday, October 3rd 2020 at 8:54PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Trump knows someone needs to stop the BLM hate movement.
Sunday, October 4th 2020 at 8:09AM
Steve Williams
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Steve, You talk like you don't think that Black people should not be able to practice our 1st Amendment Rights Under The Constitution of The United States of America Steve?
Is that the reason why you say: Trump knows someone needs to stop The Black Lives Mater hate Movement?
Black Lives Matter Is Not a Hate Group https://time.com/4413786/splc-black-lives-...
Black Lives Matter (BLM) is a decentralized political and social movement advocating for non-violent civil disobedience in protest against incidents of police brutality and all racially motivated violence against black people.
The broader movement and its related organizations typically advocate against police violence towards black people as well as for various other policy changes considered to be related to black liberation.
In July 2013, the movement began with the use of the hashtag #BlackLivesMatter on social media after the acquittal of George Zimmerman in the shooting death of African-American teen Trayvon Martin 17 months earlier in February 2012.
The movement became nationally recognized for street demonstrations following the 2014 deaths of two African Americans, that of Michael Brown—resulting in protests and unrest in Ferguson, Missouri, a city near St. Louis—and Eric Garner in New York City. Since the Ferguson protests, participants in the movement have demonstrated against the deaths of numerous other African Americans by police actions or while in police custody. In the summer of 2015, Black Lives Matter activists became involved in the 2016 United States presidential election. The originators of the hashtag and call to action, Alicia Garza, Patrisse Cullors, and Opal Tometi, expanded their project into a national network of over 30 local chapters between 2014 and 2016. The overall Black Lives Matter movement is a decentralized network of activists with no formal hierarchy.
Sunday, October 4th 2020 at 9:41AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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The only hate group here is those heathens called The Proud Boys.
Sunday, October 4th 2020 at 9:43AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I know who BLM is Ron, I've been watching them all summer. I heard one of them call the Kentucky AG a SELL OUT NEGRO. The riots were anything but peaceful. BLM is a hate movement.
Sunday, October 4th 2020 at 9:56AM
Steve Williams
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Who conducted the riots? BLM in Chicago called it "reparations". Is that whaat you call your Chicago BLM riots Ron?
Sunday, October 4th 2020 at 12:14PM
Steve Williams
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If your child was unarmed and shot by the police, would you want justice in that case Steve?
Why can't you answer my questions?
Sunday, October 4th 2020 at 1:22PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Trump wouldn't condemn white supremacists, tells far-right extremists 'Stand back and stand by'
By KATHLEEN RONAYNE and MICHAEL KUNZELMAN..... abc7chicago.com
SUBJECT
FBI Director Christopher Wray told a congressional panel last week that it was white supremacists
and anti-government extremists who have been responsible for most of the..deadly attacks by
extremist groups in the U.S..... https://abc7chicago.com
Posted By: Deacon Ron Gray
Wednesday, September 30th 2020 at 8:04PM
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"....Black Lives Matter Is Not a Hate Group......... https://time.com
Black Lives Matter: No hate group, but a fighting movement... https://www.mininggazette.com
Black Lives Matter is not a hate group https:.... www.kansascity.com...
If your child was unarmed and shot by the police, would you want justice in that case Steve?..."
Sunday, October 4th 2020 at 11:59AM
Deacon Ron Gray
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FBI Director seems closer to the Truth in his statements above....THAN his boss trump$$ette;
BlackLivesMatter AND deaCON PASTER of this COLORED'whiteSupremist' FAKE abc Opinion
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1) COLORED'whiteSupremacy' is a Generational issue since 1600s...euroChristians VS AfricanAsians
2) COLORED'whiteSupremacy' is a Generational BELIEF that 'humans" are COLORED...COLORS
3) COLORED'whiteSupremacy' is a Generational CONDUCT of rape, torture and murder of the
COLORED'whites' TO the COLORED'redYellows" and COLORED'blacks'
4) I since 2008 at this African American Family site NEVER EVER wavered from MY (1-3) Belief
....BLM is a Racistly Ignorant creation of COLORED'whiteSupremacy'
....BLM in 2020 is not an anti Racist Organization
....BLM in 2020 ENABLES the GENERATIONAL COLORED'whiteSupremist' Evil, Violent Belief...
Sunday, October 4th 2020 at 3:12PM
robert powell
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OK ROBERTPOWELL..... If your child was unarmed and shot by the police, would you want justice in that case?
as you see there is
NO COLORED'whiteSupremacy' is a Generational issue since 1600s...euroChristians VS AfricanAsians
NO COLORED'whiteSupremacy' is a Generational BELIEF that 'humans" are COLORED...COLORS
NO COLORED'whiteSupremacy' is a Generational CONDUCT of rape, torture and murder of the
COLORED'whites' TO the COLORED'redYellows" and COLORED'blacks'
and....
NOTHING TO DO WITH BLM
JUST 1### SIMPLE Question
If your child was unarmed and shot by the police, would you want justice in that case, ROBERTPOWELL?
Sunday, October 4th 2020 at 3:27PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Trump wouldn't condemn white supremacists, tells far-right extremists 'Stand back and stand by'
By KATHLEEN RONAYNE and MICHAEL KUNZELMAN..... abc7chicago.com
SUBJECT
FBI Director Christopher Wray told a congressional panel last week that it was white supremacists
and anti-government extremists who have been responsible for most of the..deadly attacks by
extremist groups in the U.S..... https://abc7chicago.com
Posted By: Deacon Ron Gray
Wednesday, September 30th 2020 at 8:04PM
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OFF SUBJECT with deaCON....
If your child was unarmed..shot by..police, would you want justice in that case, ROBERTPOWELL?
Sunday, October 4th 2020 at 3:27PM
Deacon Ron Gray
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As a Citizen of the USA, and Follower of the Constitution I WANT JUSTICE for ALL!
.....the is my 'unalienable right'
As a Citizen of the USA...and BIA African American Family member
...I teach MY children that we live in a COLORED'whiteSupremist' Society and the HisSTORY of
the Constitution to mean anything to African Americans has only been recent...(michelle proud)
they MUST always be aware that Racistly Ignorant non BELIEVERS of Constitution are not True....
Sunday, October 4th 2020 at 3:46PM
robert powell
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ROBERTPOWELL, "If YOUR child was unarmed and shot by the police, would you want justice in that case?
Keep in mind ROBERTPOWELL, I did NOT ask you about JUSTICE for ALL! this question is directed to you and the question is about YOUR CHILD involved in the shooting.
Sunday, October 4th 2020 at 4:14PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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again....reREAD above comments....
...I, Robert Powell, would GET JUSTICE; by any means necessary.....
Sunday, October 4th 2020 at 4:23PM
robert powell
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That is the same reason why our youth is out protesting because they feel the same as YOU DO ROBERTPOWELL.
Justice is supposed to be blind.
Monday, October 5th 2020 at 3:54PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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All the Families of killed by poLICE(too numerous to List) are paid by US-USA Tax payers..
..AND they HAVE not participated in any After curfew Protests, Rioting, looting or murdering!
Justice System USA...2020...Is better than 2019-->2000-->1979-->1945-->1855-->1776-->...
Justice and the Law have been BLIND by the COLORED'whites' and COLORED'blacks' since 1776
....trump$$ette, Systemic Law COLORED'whiteChristians...2020-->1776 ..... have an issue with
Systemic Law COLORED'blackChristians'---2020-->1864...let jesus figure it out...
Monday, October 5th 2020 at 6:31PM
robert powell
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That is the reason why our youth are peacefully protesting.
Monday, October 5th 2020 at 11:07PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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