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Ii Harry,
I found your essay quite interesting. I think the solution is that Black Americans do not care enough about themselves. After all of this time, White american has gotten us this far. We are further behind than we ever were. It is time for us to take charge and stop measuring ourselves by his standards. We need to take our kids back and teach them ourselves.

Speak for yourself, Harry, on the IQ thing. 90% of Americans have an IQ score between 80 & 120 -- and that includes white people and everyone else. Not sure where you got your figures. Personally my score ranks in the top 5% and know plenty of others whose scores are much higher ... and they're black.

The cause(s) of our problems are perplexing. I've looked for reasons and only find excuses. But to answer the one question of what would be the permanent solution certainly is NOT more protesting and more Jesus. And it's up to us to clean up our own mess so it's also certainly not white America's responsibility.

I don't look back as much as I look forward. that's counter-productive to me. It's time for us to join the 21st Century. There is no reason today for anyone to be fat, dumb and slow. And many of us are: fat, dumb and slow. We have historically been a lazy group. Maybe our great grand-parents witnessed the tiresomeness of their parents arriving after working in the "fields" -- and it made them "feel tired" just watching. So a "tired" approach to work got passed on. Today I see a lot of young slow walking, slow talking, lazy ass brothas who are getting left behind by everyone else. Don't they see there's a race going on? The early bird gets the worm means being early leads to success.

Maybe some of our problems can be traced on Siebra's recent Top 10 blog. Can anyone say "crackhead"?

Hello Craig,

You said this, “Harry, on the IQ thing. 90% of Americans have an IQ score between 80 & 120 --”

Are you implying that the 10% that has an IQ below 80 is Black Americans as I said since everything is wrong with us? If so, then you do agree with me that Black Americans has the lowest IQ as compared to other races in White America.

Now, I could be wrong unless you explain your self better than you have.

Tell me what you think.

Hello Ms. Thomasena,

You said this, “Black Americans do not care enough about themselves….
It is time for us to take charge… We need to take our kids back and teach them ourselves.”

So, does this mean you see as I do that our only permanent solution is to desire to become a sovereign people on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with orders to pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way?

Tell me what you think.

Hello Saint Jake,

You said this, “Don't expect your enemies to give you freedom and equality.
The so-called whiteman's heaven is the so-called black peoples hell!”

Are you saying as I have been saying for the longest that Black America’s only permanent solution is that we desire to become a sovereign people on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way?

Tell me what you think.

Hello Clark,

You said this, “I agree Craig. There is no evidence that says blacks across the board have a lower IQ than whites.”

Could it be that the evidence is in your analytical abilities to reason? Black Americans have the highest high school dropout rate, the most impoverished people and the highest killings of Black on Black crimes that common sense would tell you Black Americans IQ is lower than Whites are?

I am expecting you to show some intelligence, would you please? Sometimes evidence is hidden in your ability to think.

Incidentally, Clark I liked your joke that the Black brain had never been used. It rings my bell.

Tell me what you think.

Harry,
I grew up in an all black town. There were no white people there unless they were passing. There were some who looked white but had the perverbal drop and identified as Black people. All of the businesses were Black owned. My father owned a grocery store. MY best friend's grandfather put the a bank in the city and was cited by Time Magazine as one of the richest black men in America. This was during the time when the law supported keeping others out. Just as white towns had laws that said no blacks could live in their town, we had a law that said they could not buy property in the city limits.

White people could not come into town and do anything without getting permission from a Black man. I said all of this to say I have lived in the kind of situation you are talking about. As I look back, the kind of people that I described in my blog were the bedrock for that community. The home for delinquent black boys was in my town. Not a black boy from my town went to that facility. The clients were all from mixed towns.

In order for that kind of situation to work again, the minds of the black population has to change. That is the reason I did not put that first. The mind of the Black man today is that the white man owes us something. He does but as I said before, we are in the mess we are in because he called himself making up. So now, we have three lost generations. Even the so called ignorent in my town did not look or act the way these people act today calling them self establishing a "non white boy" identity.

At the turn of the century, every head of household and they were black fathers, was assessed $5.00 which was used to pay the teacher hired after the men in the town built a school with lumber from the lumber company in town. They work evenings after hours to get it done. Many women did not work outside of the house unless they owned business or taught school.

There was a down side. There were those who thought the white man's bread was fresher than the black man's bread so on the first of the month, he would pay the mail man $2.00 to ride to Okemah, a white town, go in the back door of the dirtest grocery store and eat cheese and cracker from white butcher paper and sit on feed sack to do it.

So, to answer your question, I have been there done that. Now that we know what the otherside looks like, and that we didn't miss anything, the right group of people could make it work. There is a campaign under way now to revitalize my former community. My town is BOLEY OKLAHOMA. Ever heard of it? We could use you and your ideas.

Just for the record, the 10% don't all fall below the 80 IQ -- probably more like 5% higher (Mensa begins at 140 and represents only about 1%) and 5% lower.

Fortunately, 1 out of 10 people aren't walking around thinking they're the "chosen" ones.

Hello Ms. Thomasina,

You said this, “In order for that kind of situation to work again, the minds of the black population has to change.”

Yes, believe me when I tell you that I am fully aware that the present mindset of Black Americans must change and it will. Guess what Ms. Thomasina, as things are now it may seem to you that Black Americans are not going to experience a change. But, I firmly say to you that we are going to change. Perhaps, not as many as I would like. But, enough of us are going to change that God promised to us that we are going to inherent a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders will be worth while.

For instance, picture in your mind the borders of South and North Carolina to the Canadian border and from the Mississippi River to the Atlantic Ocean as our portion that will be our country with borders that we could pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way.

Now, since you said that you been there and done that then it is not difficult that you understand what I am saying. When we were enjoying unity and prosperity as it was in your town as you were growing up and as it was in Tulsa, Oklahoma in the early 1920s was before our appointed time to become a sovereign people. In other words, when we had it then we could not maintain it because it was not our time. However, since it is our time today we will not be attacked, molested or influence.

Everything that I say is going to happen. All that is required of every Black American that hears me speak is to believe me as well as question what I say.

Tell me what you think.

Hello Clark,

Clark the point that I am trying to make irrespective to the IQ percentages compare and Blacks to Whites the fact remains that just because Blacks kills more Blacks than Whites killing Whites would tell me that Blacks has to be stupider than Whites are. Am I making any sense with you?

For instance, supposing there are 100 Whites and 50 Blacks in this country. The rate that Blacks are killing each other all over this country as compared to Whites killing Whites that if it was not for White America’s policing system Blacks would wipe out themselves, am I right. Based on this scenario alone my common sense would tell me that Black’s IQ has to be lower than Whites are. Since Blacks wants to kill themselves and it is White America’s civilized society that is preventing this Black self inflicted tragedy how could you not say that Black’s IQ is lower than White’s IQ are regardless of this 90% versus 10%? Have I made my case?

Tell me what you think.

Hello Craig,

You said this, “Just for the record, the 10% don't all fall below the 80 IQ”

It does not matter how many Blacks falls below 80 IQ or how many Blacks have 120 IQ. The fact remains is that Black Americans are the most impoverished, has the most high school dropout rate and kills each other at an alarming rate that if it was not for Whites stepping in between us they will not be any Blacks left.

Therefore, I would conclude that Black America’s IQ has to be lower than the IQ of Whites are. Am I making any sense with you?

Black Americans need desperately the help of God. Black Americans are in the darkest hour of our existence than we ever were. When a people are in their darkest hour it is imperative that God acts if it is God will that Black Americans be saved? I know that Black Americans has found favor with God since I am Black America’s first genuine prophet.

Tell me what you think.

Hello Clark,

Clark, firstly let us understand the question that my blog is asking, okay. For an example, I am asking that since Black Americans killed each other at an alarming rate as compared to White Americans if Black Americans as a whole has a very lower IQ than Whites do. In addition, are Blacks poor performances hereditary or is it in the melanin of our skin?

We know the things that Blacks does and the relationship we have with each other is very hostile physically and mentally. Although we have an adult respect for each other the relationship between you and I is hostile psychologically speaking.

Blacks cannot see eye to eye about anything, which would raise my suspicion that Blacks are some very ignorant people that only the help of God could turn us around, am I right.

You cannot defend that Blacks has a competitive IQ to Whites or any other races in White America since Blacks has always been on the bottom. On the other hand, during the course of history Blacks were quite the opposite as demonstrated by Black Wall Street before Whites destroyed that community. Blacks also showed intelligence by boycotting the Montgomery bus and brought it to its knees. Blacks in general Blacks demonstrated a level of IQ that was so threatening to Whites that Whites introduced integration. Blacks crippled unto integration, which again would show that Blacks IQ is lower than Whites are.

So, if you attempt to show that Blacks IQ is competitive to Whites it would shine a light on how ignorant you are since my points are paramount. Again, Blacks are killing Blacks at an alarming rate, which is entirely the opposite of intelligence and having an above average IQ score, am I right!

We know that IQ scores measures intelligence. Consequentially, where is the intelligence of Black Americans? I am Black America’s intelligence since I am Black America’s first genuine prophet to lead us out of this mess permanently.

So, again, what I am asking is why Blacks are the way we are? I am not interest per se in arguing IQ scores as you are. I am looking for answers to my question. Why Blacks are the way, we are. Why you and I can hardly see eye to eye on anything. I know that Blacks complicates everything because they see everything complicated. I also know that Blacks will argue about anything when it is not necessary in the first place. You and I cannot see eye to eye on that the Declaration of Independence is a document of ownership by the 13 colonies putting King George III of England on notice that used to be his territory is now the 13 colonies territory, which led to the Revolutionary war of 1776. You saw what I said so complicated that you brought your self and your property into the mix when the Declaration of Independence is between the 13 colonies and King George III of England.

So, do you understand my bewilderment of the ignorance and low IQ or intelligence of Blacks as a whole whether they are college graduates or homeless? I am looking for answers. The trick is that if you could supply me with answers perhaps the mental exercise could open your eyes at the least to understanding the fundamentals of the Declaration of Independence.

Tell me what you think.

Clark.... it's never ending with Harry!!! Oh.... I think he may have a new follower??

@Thomasena Martin-Johnson ((I think the solution is that Black Americans do not care enough about themselves. After all of this time, White american has gotten us this far. We are further behind than we ever were. It is time for us to take charge and stop measuring ourselves by his standards. We need to take our kids back and teach them ourselves. ))

I have to disagree with a couple of statements you make here..... my people do not care about themselves?????

White America has gotten "US" this far????

Please explain this?

Hello Clark,

Okay, since you say you are done I will leave it at that. As I said before the relationship between you and I is psychologically hostile which is indicative of why Black Americans are the way we are. We cannot honestly and I rightly dialogue each other. You express gross ignorance and arrogance to be done with it when I am not done. My resolve is greater than yours is.

I am not arguing IQ, Clark. I am arguing the stupid and unintelligent things that Blacks does. I have enough sense to know that when an entire race of people consistently does stupid and unintelligent things is a red flag to me that Blacks are ignorant and unintelligent.

For example, Cynthia and Siebra consistently posts criticizing comments and I mean consistently. Another example, I showed all of BIA members that Black Americans are not Africans. But, BIA consistently referred to Black Americans as African Americans. This is indicative of extreme ignorance and stupidity, am I right.

IQ scores are a means of measuring intelligence. Consequentially, I am saying that if a means to measure intelligence had not been drawn up by David Wechsler it would not change the fact that Black Americans are unintelligent people.

My question is why Black Americans are unintelligent people. What are the causes that Black Americans are unintelligent people? Do you understand that my question has nothing to do with IQ scores? My concern is about causes, and I suggested is it hereditary, genetics or oppression by White America. Black Americans are an oppressed people and do not have the intelligence enough to want to be sovereign on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders. Now, is that not stupid?

I did not say that Blacks are ignorant because we are Black. I do not know. I threw out a couple of suggestions as to the possible causes. Instead of you being broad-minded to understand all of what I am saying you have locked on to one thing that I said and that is IQ.

However, I do know that Black Americans are at our darkest hour of any time in our existence that only God could help us now.

So, you take your knucklehead ass and be done with it. Your brain would sell for $25,000 since it has never been use.

Hell Earl,

You said this, “..."And for God's sake pick up a book!".....ditto!”

Before there were books, what did man use to acquire knowledge? I will tell you, it was his brain. It was his abilities to analytically reason, am I right. So, my brain and abilities to reason does not come from a book, but it is in me.

By the same token, I am not discouraging you or anyone else to read books. However, the things that I am saying I am pioneering. Sovereignty is something that Black Americans has never had.

Therefore, the things that I say is pioneering stuff and you all are not familiar with uncharted territory. I understand this problem. All genuine prophets especially a first-time prophet as I am is pioneering uncharted or unfamiliar territory and perhaps that is why you all give me such a problem.

Tell me what you think.

Adj. 1. intelligent - having the capacity for thought and reason especially to a high degree; "is there intelligent life in the universe?"; "an intelligent question"
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A person with one or more of the following symptoms should be evaluated by a psychiatrist or other physician as soon as possible:

Strange or grandiose ideas.

Grandiose delusions or delusions of grandeur are principally a subtype of delusional disorder but could possibly feature as a symptom of schizophrenia and manic episodes of bipolar disorder.[1] Grandiose delusions are characterized by fantastical beliefs that one is famous, omnipotent, or otherwise very powerful. The delusions are generally fantastic, often with a supernatural, science-fictional, or religious bent (for example, belief that one is an incarnation of Jesus Christ).

Grandiose delusions are distinct from grandiosity, in that the sufferer does not have insight into his loss of touch with reality.

In colloquial usage, one who is said to have 'delusions of grandeur' is considered to be one who overestimates one's own abilities, talents or situation. This is generally due to excessive pride, rather than any actual delusions.

Hi Cynthia,

Before intergration, Black people had pride. They did not take handout. As a kid, if you were at someone house and was hungry when they asked you to eat, you said "No thank you". We didn't go around asking for things like money or anything. Today, Kid, even teens will ask you for money or to cut corners for them, lie for them, steal for them, give them grades because the parent is poor or in jail. Years ago, nobody bragged about going to jail and most people tried not to go to jail regardless of the circumstances. I know a lady who planted a garden on somebody else's land to feed her children. People had pride, self pride as well as rac pride; they did not beg for handouts. They would work, a day's work for a day's pay.

The reason I said we were further behind than we were, is many young people today do not know when they are being discriminated against. They allow white people to get away with disrespect and many time the blaks kid doesn't even know he has been insulted. There are more black boys in special classes, under educated, and locked up. Many black students, boys and girls, who can't read, write or do math than ever before all since intergration. And the excuse is these alphebets, add,adhd, emh etc. What happened to "boys will be boyd" it didn't say just white boys.

They know less about themselves and other history than ever before, and could care less. When we were to ourselves, the measuring stick was set by our parents and the community. When the Clintons talked about the village, they had no clue. The entire community directed the youth in the same direction, I don't care what kind of life the adult lived. I couldn't go in the pool hall because the man who ran the pool hall wouldn't let me. The church, the school, the police, the merchaants and the rest of the community were all on the same page and there were no mothers out there yelling at anybody "not to say anything to my kid." The community, everybody set the same standard and white people did't even know what was going on.

They didn't know what went on in the black community until Martin Luther King was able to cause the bus boycott, not beause we were hiding but because of his pre-conceived ideas about us. Some one mentioned Tulsa in the 20's. It was still in a mixed town. Imagine how great it would have been if The black community was without white people.

When I said take back out kids, we need to get them out of the clutches and influence of the white establishment. Black people need to teach black kids. That way, they will k now other people besides athletes and rappers. They will know the truth, tht it was BLACK PEOPLE WHO FIRST TAUGHT THE WORLD. The best way to teach pride is to teach the truth about black history. Why do we send our children to schools that refuse to teach black kids anything except slavery. Even with that, they don't teach about Denmark Vessi and Nat Turner.

Back in the "separate but equal" day, We knew about achievements made my black people, we know about people who laid the ground work for today. We knew about many first in this country who were black and we knew that we had Black Presidents passing for white way for President Obama was born.

I hope I answered your questions sand I hope that Harry can see that his job is cut out for hime way before we get the borders in place. We also have to have the ability to be independent from the white controlled establishment. If we are not, the white man still will have the control.

Friday, July 23rd 2010 at 7:37PM

I agree with alot that you say in reference to racial pride, self respect and knowing that we are a people whose always been of greatness irregardless of how others may see us... Aslo, I agree that our history is most important and as a parent has to teach and continuously point out to my children our history.... so that we not allow the past to re-establish itself. I grew up during the BLACK POWER movement... so I have racial pride and self dignity.

You ask: Imagine how great it would be to have a nation without black people (pharaphrase)
Personally it's difficult for me to conceive. With the diversity of this nation, we are always going to have to mingle with people of different nationalities and culture. For me it's like having a nation without Indians or Puerto Ricans, Mexicans, Latinos.....

I think that our responsibility as parents is to teach our children the pride of our people and to educate themselves so that they can be prideful and a contributor to our origins.

It does take a village... I too grew up in the south with my grandparents so of course I was drilled on the consequences of not putting my best foot forward... Getting a sound education... and being a woman of substance first.

I agree I too was raised to be self sufficient, and self respect.
Also, I take on the responsibility of teaching my sons about our people, our culture and when our past descendents were warrious and Kings....

Within our orgin structure ... there are numerous factors that we can blame for the situation poeple of color are challenged.... the SOLUTION I believe starts at home...

as for Harry..... that's another story...

But let me ask you this: (( We also have to have the ability to be independent from the white controlled establishment. If we are not, the white man still will have the control.))

What do you think would be our first move into becoming Independent from the White Controlled Establishmen?

I think first educating ourself and building a stronger foundation within our family/home structure

Hello Ms. Thomasina,

Firstly, I hope that the posters such as Cynthia, Clark and Earl would read your profile and see that you come very qualified with a mixture of education and personal experiences.

Secondly, yes, I do understand that my job is cut out for me long before we get to a country of our own with borders.

It just baffles me how I have cried out to God all of my 66 years that Black Americans become a sovereign free people on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way and the feedback is nothing but contempt, criticism and mockery of me.

However, all God genuine prophets faced this dilemma with their people as I presently do. Jesus was a prophet that could not handle the rejection of his people, he turned his back on them, and because he did this, he was crucified. I want to be more of a success than what Moses was. But, definitely not a failure as Jesus was. When God anoints a prophet, we are to do as God anointed us to do.

I would love to come to BOLEY OKLAHOMA. No, I have never been to Boley Oklahoma. Perhaps one day I could make that happen.


Tell me what you think.

Harry... Please... I have the utmost respect for everyone.... I find Ms. Martin-Johnson's comments thought provoking....

Unlike you... where in you have constantly dis respected me.... I now return the favor to you.... I want you to respond to this: Strange or grandiose ideas.... which I think attributes to you!

Hello Cynthia,

If you would stop and think for a moment you would quickly understand that all genuine prophets were accused of being disrespectful, strange and having grandiose about themselves. I would say my wisdom, understanding and insight constantly refreshed and giving to me by God that cannot be trumped makes Black Americans see me as strange, this respectful and grandiose. You have agreed that the concept of sovereignty is our only permanent solution. I was honest with you when I told you that God inspired me with this concept and sent me forth. So, I do not understand why you would be mocking and criticizing me rather than questioning me if you do not understand something unless the problem is really within you.

Geez, common sense would tell you when God decided to do something about Black America’s affair of historically being a disadvantaged people in White America certainly a prophet from among us must be raised. That prophet that was raised happens to be me, Prophet Harry. There is no difference what God did with Black Americans and me from what God did with Moses and the children of Israel when they were a disadvantaged people in Egypt. Am I making any sense with you?

However, the accusations of me are not true. How could they be true when my interests are for the betterment and welfare of Black Americans? So, you think about how badly you all treat me for no good reason at all.

Tell me what you think.

Hello Clark,

Let me help you with your analytical reasoning since it is not quite straight up and down. Let me explain.

Here are some of the things that you said that were good about segregation which is synonymous if you will to Black Americans desiring to become a sovereign people on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way.

(1) We were force to depend on ourselves and looking back on it, we did a very good job of that. Depending on ourselves is a form of having sovereignty, am I right.

(2) You declared that, “So we didn't have a lot of the problems we have today with "integration."“ Of course, integration destroyed Black America’s sovereignty if you will and White America has been more intelligence and being the dominant culture new integration would destroy us.

(3) You said this, “its harder today because…kids of today are faced with a lot more outside influences, again, thanks to integration.” Having said this how it is you are not able analytically to rationalize that sovereignty is our only permanent solution.

It is absolutely baffling to me that you recognize the causes of the problems and its affects then go right back to thinking that an education within White America is our solution when all the time being integrated into White America is our problem. You acknowledge that Black Americans did well when we were segregated having to depend on our own brainpower. Well, isn‘t segregation if you will the same as being a sovereign people on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders. Why it is that you cannot see Black Americans a sovereign people on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders? Why it is that you must have White America at your very side?

You have a psychological problem and that is you say one thing as, “We took pride in beating them at their own game, as it were, and we did.” then you say just the opposite as, “I don't think the answer has to be resegregating ourselves. If you did that without addressing the issues of parenting and education, you would still have problems. …it was the attention paid to parenting and education that resulted from it that was the benefit.”

However, White America having total control over Black Americans instituted the law of child abuse and enforced it through Department of Social Services in the public schools. The Black children were advised that their parents could no longer discipline them and if they did, they were immediately to report it to the school officials.

Our only permanent solution is that we desire become a sovereign people. Everything that I say is going to happen even if only three Black Americans entered into our sovereign country and all the ignorant Blacks perish in the desert if you will as the children of Israel did that only two entered into the Promised Land, Joshua and Kalin out of all that left Egypt on the infamous Exodus.

Your reasoning just does not make sense.

Everything that I say is going to happen.

Tell me what you think.

Hell Earl,

You said this, “Clark...you definitely nailed this one down...on the…segregation & intergration...systems.”

Let me tell your dumb ignorant ass this.

Clark did not nail a damn thing down. Clark is agreeing with Ms. Thomasina Martin-Johnson when Clark said this, “I also agree with most of what Ms Martin-Johnson says, about how things used to be back in the days of segregation, and how good they were.”

What say you?

@Clark... I think we do as a people.... have the ability to become able to live in an area of our own.... the Koreans do it... The Chinese................

BUT we have to start with "us" working on "us"....
Just like you say.... With our past treatment/and present.... We have to move towards the future of getting our children and yes some adults into raising the bar with us.....

OR you know.... We may have to resort to being in the wilderness for 100 years for the mindset of our past to diminish... inorder to focus on Improvement....

NOT forget our past... but know of our past so that it's a template of knowing what not to do...............

I'll be honest (with my prissy self) if you put me on an uninhibited island and told me to build a hut.... I'd cry like a baby.... and part of this is because I have been spoiled in some degree... And if I asked my older son to build a hut.... the first thing that would come out of his mouth would be ... where's the materials.... so you see we've got a long way... and it's not based of academics... it's based on our mindset!

we have to basically become re-programmed....

Hello Earl,

You said this, “Harry...do you have any comprehension abilities?”

Yes, I have good comprehension abilities. But, please explain where you are coming from with this question.

What say you?

Hello to All,

The time is going to come that you all are going to take very seriously the things that I have been saying for the two years that our only permanent solution is to desire to become a sovereign people on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way.

Everything that I say is going to happen.

Clark and others,

I did not say re-segregation is the answer. I want to have the same right to life and happiness that all take for granted. What i meant was, Not allow the white man to continue to mis educate our children, give them ritelin, brand them with alphebets, or make him think that his only out is athletics and rapping. We need to address the drop out rate in our community. We need to control the eduction of our children. And we need to want to be independent.

I agree, the break up of the family has a great impact on the youth of today. Men need to take responsibility for their offspring. Marriage would be great but, the child can't take care of himself. Welfre and running the mn out of the black household was another plan to control and separate women from men. The paper daddy. How warm it that? Girls need their fathers too because how else will she learn about the opposite s*x?

Television plays a great part in how black children see them selves. And some of the black shows do not help. Just to see a black face on television is not the answer if that face project the negative stereotype.

I had my composition class to write about the qualities they thought a good man or woman should have. It was surprising that they each said the same things about each other. So then I asked why were they not on the same page?

One of the reasons is that neither understand the make up of the other. Women want men to act like women and men want women to act like their fantasy. I think that this is due to the break down of the family structure. A man has his role and a woman has her role and they are not the same. Now some women will take exception to what I just said. I am an old woman, lived through a lot and seen a lot. I m not saying that women should be door mats or that men should be dictators, but we are not hard wired the same.

I did some research on education today. After Martin luther King, The government decided to have a better control over the education of black childdren so they integrated. Then they dumb down the education in public schools and under educated the masses to control them. They took on social issues, hunger, welfare, delinquency, and feeding them instead of educating them to creat dependency. Then they removed qualifications and standards in the schools to destroy drive and desire of accomplishment. Next, they focused on higher education to creat failure and inferiority. lets not leave out drugs and prisons.

So you see, The plan to warehouse and eleminate competition is in full swing. They don't need signs anymore, brainwashing does a better job. We need significant de-briefing before we are ready to run a country or even a state. We need to understand the enemy before we can work on him. The race issue is the smoke screen to occupy black people so he can continue turn the black melinted brain into mush.

We are the only group in this country who care whether the white man likes us or not. While we are concerned about him liking us, the other so call minorities are making money hand over fist and he doesn't like them either. Accept the fact that he doesn't and move on. What difference does it make? I don't like him and some others either. Look at the American Indian, he has been a soverign nation from the beginning, but until he had capital was he able to do for himself.

You didn't want your kid bussed, why did you put him on the buss? I didn't.

Don't get me started. This is the tip of the iceburg. Please excuse my errors. I tried to find them all.

Hello Clark,

You said this, “Earl,…Harry doesn't understand what he reads.”

Then you explain what I did not understand!

Cynthia,

I don't recall saying that we need a place with no black people. It is my firm belief that all people with dark hair and eyes are BLACK. We all came from one source or so the religious community believes so, I cannot immigine my saying that. Those who do not fit that criteria are albinoes of the human race, Mutants according to Michael Bradley and Heroditus. Please help me.

Im sorry... that was a typo.... you said ((Imagine how great it would have been if The black community was without white people.))

You're cool.... My Bad...
Albinoes are prople of color... although they have lack the hormone which gives us that beautiful brown skin

@Harry.... I'm tired of your crap!!!

Cynthia,

what I meant about "White America Got us this far..." was the mess we are in. I'm going to say they, because this is not me. They still have a slave mentality. I'm talking about attitudes, love for self and how important the white man is to our life. MY other people say leave us alone. You see, I use all that is good from all of my heritage including my mutants and she did not like them either.

HARRY,

We don't have to be in our own country to get the lesson of independence and pride. Segregation was designed to deny. I know the changing of minds can be done in this society we have. I know because I have done it in the 40 _+years I have taught both black and white. I Told the Truth.

Sista... I follow... and trust me I am taking in everything you are saying and analyzing all of this.... I find what you say... thought provoking.... I just find some things you say to be amazing..... You say... (( I'm talking about attitudes, love for self and how important the white man is to our life. MY other people say leave us alone.))

Explain how.... Im in the south.. I don't see the concept of blacks thinking highly of others... I see the opposite.

I live in a predominately black community, which keeps me intouch with my people... My son attends a majority black school.... to learn about his people.... I attend a hbcu to learn much about my ancestory... I spend time with my Indian family ... trying to learn and embrace more of my culture that I missed out on growing up as a younger woman...

I embrace... strong, prideful, Intelligent folks in wisdom and higher learning.... In my circle the Uncle Tom's and Jim Crow's have long since passed my generation

so shut your dayum mouth when it comes to preaching to me... I told you I have had enuff with your lies!!! LIES!!! LIES!!

YOU OLD JACKAZZ ........CRAZY..........WUSS!!!

Sister Cynthia. Tom and Jim are alive and well.

Hello Ms. Thomasina,

You said this, “We don't have to be in our own country to get the lesson of independence and pride.”

Black Americans certainly need to have a country of our own. What Black Americans will never have if we do not ever have a country of our own is the experience of braving the natural obstacles that nature hurls at every sovereign people to govern themselves. Black Americans need the experience of running of government and an economy. If we do not ever get this sort of experience, we will always be a bunch of nothing. No matter how much pride your parents in the community taught you they are still a bunch of nothing if we do not ever get the opportunity to have foreign policies with other sovereign countries. I know damn well that a White child has a different concept of George Washington then what a Black child would have. I also know that a White child has a certain opinion about President Obama as compared to an opinion about George Washington.

For instance, the Chinese people have this unique experience of braving the natural obstacles of nature and governing themselves. Black Americans needs this experience.

The Japanese people have the same experience. But, most of all White America has this experience as well. White America acquired this unique experience and ability to brave the natural obstacles of nature and governing themselves when the Mayflower first came to the shores of this country. At that time, they were 13 colonies and today their descendents are a superpower. Black Americans will always be in the shadows of White America and I have the solemn will of God that that will not be the case forever.

White America will be hard-pressed about our sovereignty but they will come to be happy for us. Do you disagree with me?

Incidentally, in our sovereign country we will have immigrants of good standards. However, the country will be Black Americans as the country of Liberia belongs to the Liberians who were once ex-slaves as we are, but they came to mix themselves with the local Africans. Likewise, the real estate of this country belongs to White America as the real estate of France belongs to French people. Black Americans wants to be free and we are going to become a sovereign people on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders. Everything that I say is going to happen.

Where am I wrong?

Tell me what you think.

i think you still "is one crazy old fool"!!!!

Harry, its very childish to come on the internet and act the way you do. You are exposing your own self.

Ice Cube said it best: "You better check your self before you wreck your self!"

If you are a Prophet of God you seriously need to step off the bull, for real!!!!!

Come correct!!!

Damn...

Hello Siebra and Cynthia,

As of tonight, I am not going to comment on criticism. I will only comment on questions and relevant points.

what evaaaa!

Harry,

White America will never be happy for us. Some of the countries you named are in terrible shape Liberia for one. You just supported my statement, we need to educate our childdren about their past and to teach them that they have no heritage before slavery is exactly what white people say about us.

One of the reason that white boys, regardless as to how crazy they are as childrem, when the time come, he takes his place as a man because his history tells him that he can. White privilege.

When my students learned that they were descendets of people who controlled the world, and that the characters of the bible they read looked like them, and understood that Arabs were not white but were their cousins, it made all of the difference in the world. Some of them even went to challenge Catholic teachings.

A lady just told me last semester, that she stands a little taller based on what she learned in my class about her history. So. It can work. It needs more than me. if we don't do anything but straighten up the lies they have been taught, we will be miles ahead. We can do this in this country.

Hello Ms. Thomasina,

Let me first say that I admire your aspiration for us, Black Americans. However, we do not want Black Americans at large psychologically to suffer as the Black American so-called Muslims when I tell them that Black Americans are not the original Asiatic Black people. Mr. Elijah Muhammad had taught them this nonsense until I told them that White Americans, mostly of British descent are responsible for making a people such as us, Black Americans.

Therefore, Ms. Thomasina if you want to teach the truth you must first know the truth, am I right.

Black Americans are a people that came into existence in this country when White Americans bred themselves with the African slave people to a decrease their livestock of slaves. Black Americans were specifically bred to be human laborers the same, as you would breed two animals for a specific purpose. For instance, one animal may be a good producer of milk and the other animal may be a good meat source. Combining the two animals, you would get meat and milk.

Again, White America’s sole interest was to increase their labor force by breathing themselves with the African slaves they purchase from the slave traders. As a result, a new breed or race of people emerged from the ashes of slavery. Those people are who we are today, Black Americans. We have no history prior to White Americans breathing themselves with the African slaves.

You know that I am right because the test of my accuracy is that Black Americans existed nowhere else in the world except for this country and not before slavery. Black Americans did not exist in Africa. Black Americans did not exist in China. Black Americans did not exist in Brazil. Black Americans came into existence in this country.

Consequentially, Black Americans history could only go back as far as when the first boatload of Africans stepped foot on this country and began a lifetime of slavery.

There is a gate in Africa that says “The Gate of No Return” that the captured Africans waiting for the slave ship would pass through this gate of no return. What do you suppose the significance of that phrase means?

So, Ms. Thomasina teach the truth and the truth is Black Americans has no history except slavery until we become a sovereign people on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way. Then and only then will a better history begin for us since we will write it for ourselves.

Have I made any sense with you?

Tell me what you think.

@ CLARK, SO GLAD i HAVE CHOSEN TO CREAT MY OWN RACE...had to get into the race that has humans with someting called brains and the powers to do their own thinking and knowing when they are hungry how to provide food, when cold build a fire and a place to come in out of the hot sun so they would not have a heat stroke, and even better how to come in out of the rain (smile)