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Deuteronomy 28

 

Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge:

 

Since God is holy, the people He chooses for Himself must also be holy, a principle that continues under the New Covenant. As God lives by high standards, so must His people keep those same high standards as an example to the rest of the world. Just as a human government sends out ambassadors to other nations to represent it in its affairs within those nations, God chose Israel to represent Him. What were His reasons?

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Deacon. Where is your proof God choose Israel
Wednesday, June 10th 2015 at 2:16PM
Sylvainy R
Brother Soso,

Did you view this video? The point of this blog is: "Can Anyone Debunk What You Are About To See?"

Check back with me when you view my proof, OK! I would love your feed back.

Wednesday, June 10th 2015 at 7:36PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Deacon
Your video is whats call Justification for an act or for lack of better words cuting off your feet to fit the shoes Again where is the proof God choose Israel

Wednesday, June 10th 2015 at 9:41PM
Sylvainy R
Brother Soso,

What are you talking about!!! Your reply is to general, I have not a clue what you mean. Can you be more specify? Did you watch the video?


Wednesday, June 10th 2015 at 10:18PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
‘Jehovah, slow to anger and abundant in loyal love, pardoning error and transgression, but he will by no means leave the guilty unpunished, bringing punishment for the error of fathers upon sons, upon the third generation and upon the fourth generation.’

Brother Deacon, why did this punishment last so long?

Wednesday, June 10th 2015 at 10:41PM
Steve Williams
Brother Steve,

Good Question. That answer is apart of the video as well, many of us still don't believe who they are or listen or keep the commandments of The Most High.



Wednesday, June 10th 2015 at 10:58PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
But Brother Deacon, are you saying the enslaved were sinners? That they didn't worship Jehovah, that they didn't cry out to Jehovah?
Wednesday, June 10th 2015 at 11:16PM
Steve Williams
Brother Steve,

Are you taking the challenge to debunk the facts in this video?
Thursday, June 11th 2015 at 8:19AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Deacon, not because you present a video of an alleged God choose israel makes it true or prove that it is true my question to you is where is your proof that this God chose Israel
Thursday, June 11th 2015 at 8:46AM
Sylvainy R

Can Anyone Debunk What You Are About To See?

Subject?

and soso makes a Great comment to the selfProfessed 'blackWhiteRedYellowHebrewIsraelite'.....

".......Deacon, not because you present a video of an alleged God choose israel makes it true or prove that it is true my question to you is where is your proof that this God chose Israel...."
Thursday, June 11th 2015 at 7:46AM
Sylvainy Soso

soso if I may add one word to your statement?

Deacon, not because you present a --CARTOON-- video of an alleged God choose israel makes it true or prove that it is true my question to you is where is your proof that this God chose Israel

I see a CARTOON ---


Thursday, June 11th 2015 at 9:58AM
robert powell
Brother Soso,

Why are you refusing to answer my question of have you watched the video?

Are you here to debunk what you saw?

If you have seen this video, view it please and let us talk about the content, fair enough?


Thursday, June 11th 2015 at 11:23AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Deacon: I did watch your video and I understand what you are trying to do however!!! You, cannot give a man / woman a bucket with holes in the bottom to carry water it just doesn’t fly

Deacon: if I make a video of a unicorn flying in the sky and post it on YouTube is that evidence of a unicorn or proof a unicorn exists??? Again I’ve seen your video and I’m asking where is your proof that this God you are talking about chose Israel

Thursday, June 11th 2015 at 1:15PM
Sylvainy R
Brother Deacon,

I'm not trying to debunk the video, I just have some questions. Another is why the Black Hebrew Israelites were enslaved by by a Black Hebrew Israelite king?

Thursday, June 11th 2015 at 1:23PM
Steve Williams
Brother Soso.

This is great that you have seen the video. As you know, the reading is from Deuteronomy 28 as a Prophety to the Hebrew people. What part of what you saw was a bucket with holes in it?

What was it?

I am very sorry Brother Soso, this subject is not about unicorns today's. We are talking mainly from the scriptures found in the book of Deuteronomy 28 to be exact.

Now, are you taking the Challenge to debunk what you saw?



Thursday, June 11th 2015 at 1:43PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Deacon The entire video from beginning to end is of someone trying to give someone a bucket with holes in the bottom to carry water and it does not fly , thanks for letting me know the reading is from Deuteronomy,

Also I am fully aware the subject is not about unicorns however it’s the same principal applies

Deacon: it’s not for me to debunk, it’s for you to provide proof and evidence that this God choose Israel, Where is the proof, please note this is not personal I respect you as a brother I would like to see some proof and evidence
Of this God who chose Israel please help me here

Thursday, June 11th 2015 at 2:45PM
Sylvainy R
Since you don't what to get on the specifics, then you can't debunk or disprove any of this whole in a bucket Siri that you are expounding on.

If you don't believe and can't elaborate on your disbelief then why are you here?

My proof is in, what I believe are the LAWS of YAH which you have not put forth any proof that this is not the LAWS of YAH, all you have said was, this is a bucket full of wholes.

What I was looking forward from you was to discuss the content of what you saw and nothing more.

Thursday, June 11th 2015 at 5:43PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Steve,

I was not aware of King James having slaves himself. I am sure that his family members benefited from The trans-Atlantic slave trade. Now I do know that there are passages in The Holy Bible of how a slave must obey their masters and other such passages on how the master must treat there slaves.

Also slavery took on a whole new meaning at the founding of this country.

That was a good question, I will do some research on that question. With that said, I don't want to get to far off subject with this challenge to debunk what was seen in this presentation.

Thanks Brother Steve for this question.

Thursday, June 11th 2015 at 8:49PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Thanks Brother Deacon. What I meant about King James enslaving is I believe he had to approve the charters for the trading companies, if I'm not mistaken.
Thursday, June 11th 2015 at 10:54PM
Steve Williams
Well maybe not James I, I'm still researching, but his grandson Charles Ii started the Royal African Company.

The Royal African Company was a mercantile company set up by the Stuart family and London merchants to trade along the west coast of Africa. It was led by James, Duke of York, Charles II's brother. Its original purpose was to exploit the gold fields up the Gambia River identified by Prince Rupert during the Interregnum, and it was set up once Charles II gained the English throne in the Restoration of 1660.[1] However, it was soon engaged in the slave trade as well as with other commodities.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Afric...

Friday, June 12th 2015 at 5:51AM
Steve Williams
In the 1680s the Company was transporting about 5,000 slaves a year across the Atlantic. Many were branded with the letters 'DY', for its Governor, the Duke of York, who succeeded his brother on the throne in 1685, becoming King James II. Other slaves were branded with the company's initials, RAC, on their chests.[8]
Friday, June 12th 2015 at 5:59AM
Steve Williams
Yes Sir, I confirm your information to be correct. For those of us who may not know, It was King James I who commissioned the translation of The Holy Bible from Hebrew into English in 1611.

I hope that we cleared up and answered that question Brother Steve.


Friday, June 12th 2015 at 7:08AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Yes Sir, I confirm your information to be correct. For those of us who may not know, It was King James I who commissioned the translation of The Holy Bible from Hebrew into English in 1611.

I hope that we cleared up and answered that question Brother Steve.

Now back to the challenge: "Can Anyone Debunk What You Are About To See?" or I should say, have seen.


Friday, June 12th 2015 at 7:11AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
49 “Jehovah will raise up against you a distant nation, from the end of the earth; it will pounce like an eagle, a nation whose language you will not understand,

Brother Deacon, was the king of this nation, James II, grandson of James I, a Black Hebrew Israelite?

Friday, June 12th 2015 at 7:56AM
Steve Williams
It seems that King James II motive was more on making a profit than his religion. When King James II produced a Catholic heir, the tension exploded, and leading nobles called on his Protestant son-in-law and nephew William of Orange, to land an invasion army from the Netherlands, which he did in the Glorious Revolution of 1688. King James II fled England (and thus was held to have abdicated)
Friday, June 12th 2015 at 8:07AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon, I am only trying to clarify if Jehovah's judgement on Israel was executed by Israelite kings and queens.
Friday, June 12th 2015 at 8:45AM
Steve Williams
I hope that I answered your thought provoking questions, Brother Steve.


Friday, June 12th 2015 at 10:25AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Bro Deacon: Again it is NOT for me or anyone for that matter to debunk this video, you post it you believe it, the ownness is on you to prove this God choose Israel It is not for I to debunk it’s for you to prove,

your beliefs Bro, Deacon is not proof, your beliefs or anyone beliefs for that matter are absent of evidence no one can prove a belief once we have the facts we don’t need belief, Bro Deacon it is not personal so I hope you don’t take it as such

Friday, June 12th 2015 at 11:45AM
Sylvainy R
Yes Brother Deacon, thank you.
Friday, June 12th 2015 at 11:59AM
Steve Williams
Brother Soso,

If I may restate or rephrase my challenge to you or anyone who thinks that what is in this presentation is faulty or did not happen to God's people and who God's people are, let them take the challenge.

Brother Soso, my proof is in this persentation and it was you who said it was like a bucket with wholes all through it.

Are you that person?
Friday, June 12th 2015 at 12:15PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon:
Again I’ll say the entire video from beginning to end is of someone trying to give someone a bucket with holes in the bottom to carry water and it does not fly having said that Brother Deacon, It is not for me to disprove what your video is trying to say, However it’s for you my brother to show the proof that God chose Israel and I KNOW not BELIEVE but KNOW that no one can prove or provide any evidence that God chose Israel

Brother Deacon, I am very mindful of anyone having their faith / beliefs in their Bible / God challenge and hoe upsetting it can be but my intention is not to upset or hurt

Brother Deacon, I know religion is an insult to human dignity without it you have good people doing good things, and evil people doing evil things, but for good people to do evil things it takes religion
Again Brother Deacon, your entire video is based on beliefs that God chose Israel where are the facts and evidence of that?

Friday, June 12th 2015 at 4:14PM
Sylvainy R
Brother Soso,

First of all you don't have to apologize of saying something that might hurt my feelings.

Let us talk man to man. You talk about these wholes but yet you still want to talk in general terms, what are you saying? This is a great metaphor, I can see someone running with a bucket of water but since you are talking a metaphorical terminology the bucket mean something in the water it mean something. Brother Soso, it was you who seen the presentation and it was you who came up with this metaphor. Please explain what you're talking about? Brother Soso, I have not a clue what you are talking about.

Now remember this blog is about taking the challenge to debunk was presented, is this what you are doing with this Bucket metaphor?


Friday, June 12th 2015 at 5:36PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon, an article of faith can't be debunked. Whatever one's faith, it is faith precisely because it can't be proved. Nor can it be didproved.
Friday, June 12th 2015 at 8:35PM
Steve Williams
Brother Steve, I disagree with you on this point. We have people out here today that want to be Hebrews, that don't look like us. Then we have people who looks like me, thinking that they are gentiles when The Holy Bible clearly states who the gentiles are. Then we have people calling our religion a white man's religion when The Holy Bible clearly points out that error of thinking.

The prove is still alive,well and before us to be discovered which has been right in front of us all the time.

Our religion is more than just faith, it is our history. That is the reason why I asked this question: "Can Anyone Debunk What You Are About To See?" and inside that question, I have asked people to watch the presentation and tell me what you think.

Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge:

Friday, June 12th 2015 at 9:29PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon, we agree that The Hebrews were not white, and Christianity isn't the whiteman's religion. I was referring only to whether Deuteronomy 28 was a prophecy fulfilled by the Atlantic Slave Trade. I don't believe the enslaved Africans were being punished by God, nor that their descendants are still being punished by God. The evil that was perpetuated then and now is a human evil.
Friday, June 12th 2015 at 9:52PM
Steve Williams
Brother Steve,

I am glad to see that we agree on some of the major points of this topic. I too believe that this is human evil as well and YAH can use the enemy of the Hebrews to bring about the fulfillment of his word.

To answer your question, YES it did and that was just tbe beginning?

Question for you. Did YOU watch the presentation?
Saturday, June 13th 2015 at 7:33AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Yes Brother Deacon, I did watch the video.
Saturday, June 13th 2015 at 7:54AM
Steve Williams
Brother Deacon, didn't all those things happen to the Israelites when they were taken into captivity by the Babylonians?
Saturday, June 13th 2015 at 7:58AM
Steve Williams
No Brother Steve not all. The Hebrews never was taken into captivity by ship to Babylon, I am sure our fathers knew of the land of the land of Babylon through, if not by scripture itself.

Thank You Brother Steve for taken the time to view the video.
Saturday, June 13th 2015 at 12:30PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Bro Deacon
A bucket with holes in the bottom cannot carry water Bro Deacon it will leak out just like your video, it has no proof no evidence and no substance thus it’s a bucket with holes in the bottom to try and carry water, no one can debunk your belief / faith system Bro Deacon, this is a fact, no one, can say factually that God chose who ever or whatever, you Bro Deacon can tell me you believe God chose Israel but you cannot tell me you are sure God chose Israel, Bro Deacon your belief / faith system in this context is absent of evidence

Saturday, June 13th 2015 at 5:48PM
Sylvainy R
Bro Deacon who are the gentiles ???
Saturday, June 13th 2015 at 5:51PM
Sylvainy R
Great question Brother Soso. You can look in The Holy Bible in The Book of Genesis chapter 10 begins the reading, there you will find your answer my Brother.



Saturday, June 13th 2015 at 9:21PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Soso,

FACT: In The Book of Deuteronomy 28 YAH was talking to his people and he told his people how he was going to bless his people if we would hear his voice and keep his commandments, Brother Soso, that is a FACT.

FACT: YAH Also told his poeple what would happen if we did not hear is voice and keep his commandments as well.

FACT: You and I are living evidence of our ancestors did and what we continue to do, to this day.

The edvidents is not just in The King James Version of The Holy Bible but these words also appear in The original Hebrew Bible that was wrote 500 years before the birth of Jesus Christ and some 1900 years before the Atlantic-Slave Trade.

I got more...

Saturday, June 13th 2015 at 8:55PM
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Saturday, June 13th 2015 at 10:10PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
The Great Revolt of Judea marked the beginning of the Jewish–Roman wars, which radically changed the Eastern Mediterranean and had a crucial impact on the development of the Roman Empire and the Jews. Despite the defeat of the Great Revolt, tensions continued to build in the region. With the Parthian threat from the East, major Jewish communities throughout the Eastern Mediterranean revolted in 117 CE. The revolt (known as the Kitos War), while poorly-organized, was extremely violent and took two years for the Roman armies to subdue. Although only the final chapter of the Kitos War was fought in Judea, the revolt is considered part of the Jewish–Roman Wars. The immense number of casualties during the Kitos War depopulated Cyrenaica and Cyprus and also reduced Jewish and Greco-Roman populations in the region.[vague] The final conflict in the Jewish–Roman Wars erupted in 132 CE in Judea, led by Simon bar Kokhba. Although Bar Kokhba was initially successful against Roman forces and established a short-lived state, eventual Roman effort defeated Bar Kokhba's rebels. The result was an almost complete genocide of the Jews, a ban on Judaism, and the unprecedented renaming of the province from Judea to Palaestina. Although Hadrian's death (in 137 CE) eased restrictions and persecution of the Jews, the survivors of his campaign were not many. Only a small Jewish community of several thousand survived in the Galilee, with smaller communities in other parts of the Mediterranean. It was then a turn of the spared Babylonian Jewish community to rise to prominence, although the rise of the Rabbinical Judaism in Galilee re-emerged as another rehabilitated Jewish center which would flourish until the 7th century.[vague]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Jewi...

Brother Deacon,

Can you trace this small remaining number of Jews to West Africa, which 17 centuries later resulted in a population of 10 million enslaved?

Sunday, June 14th 2015 at 8:11AM
Steve Williams
Brother Deacon,

The origin of the term 'Diaspora' comes from the Septuagint, Deuteronomy 28:25.

"And you shall be in dispersion in all the kingdoms of the earth."

http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/nets/edition/05-...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_dia...

Sunday, June 14th 2015 at 9:18AM
Steve Williams
As early as the middle of the 2nd century BCE the Jewish author of the third book of the Oracula Sibyllina addressed the "chosen people," saying: "Every land is full of thee and every sea." The most diverse witnesses, such as Strabo, Philo, Seneca, Luke (the author of the Acts of the Apostles), Cicero, and Josephus, all mention Jewish populations in the cities of the Mediterranean basin. See also History of the Jews in India and History of the Jews in China for pre-Roman (and post-) diasporic populations. King Agrippa I, in a letter to Caligula, enumerated among the provinces of the Jewish diaspora almost all the Hellenized and non-Hellenized countries of the Orient. This enumeration was far from complete as Italy and Cyrene were not included. The epigraphic discoveries from year to year augment the number of known Jewish communities but must be viewed with caution due to the lack of precise evidence of their numbers. According to the ancient Jewish historian Josephus, the next most dense Jewish population after the Land of Israel and Babylonia was in Syria, particularly in Antioch, and Damascus, where 10,000 to 18,000 Jews were massacred during the great insurrection. The ancient Jewish philosopher Philo gives the number of Jewish inhabitants in Egypt as one million, one-eighth of the population. Alexandria was by far the most important of the Egyptian Jewish communities. The Jews in the Egyptian diaspora were on a par with their Ptolemaic counterparts and close ties existed for them with Jerusalem. As in other Hellenistic diasporas, the Egyptian diaspora was one of choice not of imposition.[10]

To judge by the accounts of wholesale massacres in 115 BCE, the number of Jewish residents in Cyrenaica, Cyprus, and Mesopotamia was also large. At the commencement of the reign of Caesar Augustus, there were over 7,000 Jews in Rome (though this is only the number that is said to have escorted the envoys who came to demand the deposition of Archelaus; compare: Bringmann: Klaus: Geschichte der Juden im Altertum, Stuttgart 2005, S. 202. Bringmann talks about 8.000 Jews who lived in the city of Rome.). Many sources say that the Jews constituted a full one-tenth (10%) of the population of the ancient city of Rome itself. Finally, if the sums confiscated by the governor Lucius Valerius Flaccus in the year 62/61 B.C. represented the tax of a didrachma per head for a single year, it would imply that the Jewish population of Asia Minor numbered 45,000 adult males, for a total of at least 180,000 persons.[citation needed]

"No date or origin can be assigned to the numerous Jewish settlements eventually known in the West. While some were surely founded (and many certainly greatly increased) as a result of the dispersal of Judaean Jews from the Land of Israel and their expulsion from Jerusalem after the revolt of CE 66–70 (The First Jewish–Roman War, known as the Great Revolt) and the revolt of 132–135 (the Second Jewish–Roman War, known as the Bar Kochba Revolt), it is also known that there were already many Jews living outside of the Land of Israel before the Roman imperial oppression and decidedly before the Jewish uprisings for independence and freedom from Roman rule in their homeland—and before their uprisings were crushed. It is reasonable to conjecture that many, such as the settlement in Puteoli attested in 4 B.C., went back to the late (pre-Roman Empire) Roman Republic or early Empire and originated in voluntary emigration and the lure of trade and commerce."[11]

Sunday, June 14th 2015 at 9:33AM
Steve Williams
Thank Yon Brother Steve,

This is a great addition to the subject.

Sunday, June 14th 2015 at 10:25AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon,

Can you trace this small remaining number of Jews to West Africa, which 17 centuries later resulted in a population of 10 million enslaved?

Yes... There is documented history of Hebrews that moved of Israel to west Africa which was later sold into Atlantic Stave trade.


Sunday, June 14th 2015 at 10:36AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon,

I agree with you on that. But can you show that all West Africans were Hebrews?

Sunday, June 14th 2015 at 10:55AM
Steve Williams
Poor Harry, all he needs is to apologize and he could join the discussion.
Sunday, June 14th 2015 at 1:31PM
Steve Williams
To answer your question Brother Steve, Not all West Africans were Hebrews?

Now to keep in the spirit of this blog. I remember reviewing this very same question earlier on BIA. here is that blog http://blackinamerica.com/content/274251/h...

From The author of the book: "Babylon to Timbuktu’ Rudolf R Windsor gives an account of this scattering of the Israelites: http://www.freewebs.com/realisraelites/sla...

I have more proof that The Hebrews was the people who became the slaves the was shipped to The America's.




As far as HARRY is concern, I see him out there. I have the will-power to forgive him for his rudeness towards another person on my blog and I have the power to lift that block on him only if he asked for it.


Sunday, June 14th 2015 at 8:39PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon, I'll review that link and get back to you.
Monday, June 15th 2015 at 5:41AM
Steve Williams
Brother Deacon,

Do you have documentation to back up these statements, from the link you provided?

In his book ‘From Babylon to Timbuktu’ Rudolf R Windsor gives an account of this scattering of the Israelites:

‘In the year 65B.C. the Roman armies under General Pompey captured Jerusalem. In 70 A.D. General Vespasian and his son, Titus put an end to the Jewish state, with great slaughter. During the period of the military governors ofPalestine, many outrages and atrocities were committed against the residue of the people. During the period of Pompey to Julius, it has been estimated that over 1,000,000 Jews (Israelites) fled intoAfrica, fleeing from Roman persecution and slavery. The slave markets were full of black Jewish slaves.’

Millions of Israelites who escaped the persecution of the Roman-Jewish War fled into the interiors of Africa. In his book ‘Jewish Roots in Africa,’ Mr Litchtblau, speaking of the Israelites that ran into Africa, says this:

‘Pressed under sweeping regional conflicts, Jews settled as traders and warriors in Yemen, the Horn of Africa, Egypt, the kingdom of Kush and Nubia, North African Punic settlements (Carthage and Velubilis), and areas now covered by Mauritania. More migrants followed these early Jewish settlers toNorthern Africa…’

Rudolf R Windsor in his book ‘Babylon toTimbuktu points out:

‘The black Jews who migrated to the Sudan from the North converged with the Jews migrating from the eastern Sudan to the countries of the Niger River…There is much proof, and still much more to be revealed by scholars, that there existed prior to the slave trade and subsequent to it many tribes, colonies, and kingdoms in West Africa’. pg 120

1600 years later their descendants were rounded up and captured by African and the Arabs slave traders and sold to the Europeans, fulfilling the curses that were written in Deuteronomy the 28th chapter. Rudolf R Windsor in his book ‘From Babylon to Timbuktu’ goes on further to explain on pg 132:

‘As persecuted communities, they were rather more in danger than other Negroes of being raided by war-parties and sold as slaves…’

Monday, June 15th 2015 at 6:57AM
Steve Williams
Thank You Brother Steve for sharing this information.

Who Is The Suffering Servant?

"But thou, Israel, art my servant, Jacob whom I have chosen, the
seed of Abraham my friend. Thou whom I have taken from the ends of the earth, and
called thee from the chief men thereof, and said unto thee, Thou art my servant; I
have chosen thee, and not cast thee away."

Isaiah 41:8-9,


Monday, June 15th 2015 at 7:12AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon,

I will take a look at this book

http://www.lojsociety.org/aymero_pdf/from_...

Monday, June 15th 2015 at 7:49AM
Steve Williams
Brother Deacon,

At the very beginning of this book the author states that the region of the Tigris and Euphrates was the location of the Garden of Eden, and that the people of this region were jet black. For this he cites Genesis 9:19. Brother Deacon, this is not what I'm looking for.

Monday, June 15th 2015 at 8:38AM
Steve Williams
Brother Steve,

What was you looking for?


Monday, June 15th 2015 at 12:29PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon,

I was hoping for history outside of the Bible, that traces the Israelites from their homeland to West Africa. I will continues searching.

Monday, June 15th 2015 at 12:51PM
Steve Williams
I do know there were Jewish communities in West Africa, but how extensive?
Monday, June 15th 2015 at 12:54PM
Steve Williams
And were they Israelites by birth or by conversion?
Monday, June 15th 2015 at 12:55PM
Steve Williams
Deacon: It is a FACT that these things are written in The Book of Deuteronomy, However Again I ask you what proof do you or any man have that this God spoke one word or this God chose Israel where are your facts and proof of this
Brother Deacon no one including you or I can use the bible as Facts for anything because everything contained therein is written and spoken of in the third person, be it the The King James Version of The Holy Bible or The original Hebrew Bible you still cannot provide me any hard facts that this God spoke of choose Israel
Deacon where is evidence and proof that YAH Also told his people what would happen if we did not hear is voice and keep his commandments as well”
Deacon: I agree you and I are living evidence of our ancestors that is a fact and solid evidence too no one can deny this

Monday, June 15th 2015 at 1:04PM
Sylvainy R
Steve Williams
Try searching the Khazars and the Ashkenazi and their migrated to Egypt from Europe the Egyptians called them (Habiru) another name for desert people you might find the Israelites from their homeland to West Africa
Monday, June 15th 2015 at 2:27PM
Sylvainy R
I will try that Sylvainy. Thanks.
Monday, June 15th 2015 at 2:36PM
Steve Williams
Brother Soso, What is this third person that you are talking about? You are talking about the basic fundamentals of learning. History for example is taught from a third party prospective, “Quote” from a book, simply because we was not there, at that event in time and in space.

The FACT that a thing that was written, came to pass is evidence enough.

Brother Soso, you misinform Brother Steve about The Khazars and the Ashkenazi ever being on the West of Africa.

Let us take a look at who the Khazars and the Ashkenazi are. Absolute Proof More Modern Jews Not Biblical Israelites http://rense.com/general89/notjws.htm

These people was never in the west of Africa during the time of the Atlantic Slave Trade.
Ashkenazis are not the descendants of the Ancient Israelites http://www.iamthewitness.com/doc/Ashkenazi...

Who Started the Slave Trade? http://glithehiddentruth.weebly.com/trans-...
This is more proof outside of The Holy Bible.


Tuesday, June 16th 2015 at 12:27AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon,

The Biblical Israelites were not all of the twelve tribes. Even at the time of Jesus there were many that had been converted to Judaism. This is attested by Philo of Alexandria.
Tuesday, June 16th 2015 at 5:41AM
Steve Williams
Sylvainy, now we are getting somewhere.

Habiru (Hebrew)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habiru

Idrimi (Abram)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idrimi

Tuesday, June 16th 2015 at 7:23AM
Steve Williams

Can Anyone Debunk What You Are About To See?

SUBJECT?

yet BIA, selfProfessed 'whiteMan' takes us on history ABOUT a 'blackHebrewIsraelite' CARTOON?

please................

DO what youAll do!--------Stereotypical racistMisconception of Knowledge........





Tuesday, June 16th 2015 at 9:16AM
robert powell
Brother Steve,

Let us focus on the original Hebrews and not the converts for this conversation.

Genesis 10:2-4, Japheth begot Gomer (*Galatians) (**Germany, Crimea, Cambria, Celts), Magog (*Scythians) (**Georgia, Scythians), Madai (*Medes), Javan (*Grecians), Tubal (*Iberes), Meshech (**Moscow), and Tiras. Gomer begot Ashkenaz (*Rheginians) (**Germany, Saxons, Scandavia), Riphath, and Togarmah. Javan begot Elishah, Tarshish, Kittim (**Cyprus) (Abraham ibn Ezra said the Romans were descended from Kittim), and Dodanim. (*denotes The Complete Works of Josephus. **denotes The table of the Nations off the Web)

Brother Soso,

5 By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations. Genesis 5
Tuesday, June 16th 2015 at 9:20AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Listen to me very good ROBERT,

If you can not add to this positive dialog with creditable information to the discussion, Please keep your name calling OFF THIS BLOG... DO YOU HEAR ME!!!!!
Tuesday, June 16th 2015 at 9:53AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Deacon Ron Gray Who are the original Hebrews???

Tuesday, June 16th 2015 at 10:21AM
Sylvainy R
Brother Soso,

Did I answer your question about "Who are The Gentiles? Do you understand who they are?

Who are the original Hebrews?This is a good question. It was Black Hebrews who Lived in the original Israel of The Bible http://stewartsynopsis.com/Isreal.htm




Tuesday, June 16th 2015 at 11:17AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Steve,

Agree. Remember that all Hebrews are not the so-called "JEW" but all Jews are Hebrews.

Tuesday, June 16th 2015 at 1:04PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.

there is NOTHING positive about a cartoon claiming 'blackHebrew'---'whiteHebrew'-----RACIST JUNK


Tuesday, June 16th 2015 at 1:55PM
robert powell
Deacon Thanks for the link but The Arabs did not start the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade, The Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade started with the Portuguese Prince Henry the Navigator IN 1441 during the Portuguese exploration in West Africa who 11 black men back to Europe and give them as servant to the Catholic Pope the pope give Henry the Navigator 300 miles of land along the coast of West Africa as a gift by 1445 the Catholic Pope put out an edit

making slavery a commercial business thus started the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade it was the Portuguese with the of the Catholic Church / The Vatican who started Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade not the Arabs
The Arabs was trying to get in the action but was held at bay by the Portuguese

Tuesday, June 16th 2015 at 1:57PM
Sylvainy R
Brother Soso, which links to what question are you referring to. I don't believe you ever asked me who started the Atlantic - Slave trade.

Now I do remember you asking who was the gentiles?

or

Who are the original Hebrews???

I only hope that I have answered your questions. Now on the other hand Brother Soso, you never did answer my question to you to clarify this third party issue. My question is "What is this third person that you are talking about?"




Tuesday, June 16th 2015 at 2:39PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon you are cutting off your foot to fit the shoe, Original Hebrew is the Black Hebrews who lived in the original Israel of The Bible Original Israel of The Bible??? Deacon this God change Jacob’s name to Israel Thus Israel came into existence
Genesis 35:10King James Version (KJV)
10 And God said unto him, Thy name is Jacob: thy name shall not be called any more Jacob, but Israel shall be thy name: and he called his name Israel
11 And God said unto him, I am God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins;
12 And the land which I gave Abraham and Isaac, to thee I will give it, and to thy seed after thee will I give the land
Deacon I understand your need to want to identify yourself as a Black Hebrews I guess that’s your cup

Tuesday, June 16th 2015 at 3:41PM
Sylvainy R
No Deacon you did not answer my question about the Gentiles
Tuesday, June 16th 2015 at 3:43PM
Sylvainy R
This link Bro Deacon http://stewartsynopsis.com/Isreal.htm
Tuesday, June 16th 2015 at 3:44PM
Sylvainy R
Brother Deacon everything in the bible is said And God said unto whoever or and he said unto them, And God speak these words saying I am your lord your god
Bro Deacon all of these are in the third person someone is telling you God said so

Tuesday, June 16th 2015 at 3:50PM
Sylvainy R
Steve do you see the similarities between the names Habiru (Hebrew)
Tuesday, June 16th 2015 at 4:12PM
Sylvainy R
Sylvainy, the name and also the characteristics of those people. They were migrant and they were raiders. Same as in the Bible. There is also this:

And on page 273 of Volume 1 of James Pritchard’s anthology, The Ancient Near East, appears a passage from a letter dating from the 14th century BCE which makes reference to “slaves who had become "Apiru.” So not only did “Habiru” (or “Apiru”) sound something like “Hebrew,” but the two groups seem to have shared a similar social status as well. Jewish tradition portrays the original Hebrews as runaway slaves, and the authors of the Torah took this tradition seriously enough to write, in Chapter 23, Verse 16 of the Book of Deuteronomy:

You shall not turn over to his master a slave who seeks refuge with you from his master. He shall live with you in any place he may choose among the settlements in your midst, wherever he pleases; you must not ill treat him.

Would the authors of the Torah have promulgated such an injunction unless they were themselves in actual fact descended, at least in part, from fugitive slaves? I doubt it, and therefore the fact that many of the Habiru were also fugitive slaves made a connection between the two groups appear highly probable in my eyes.

However it soon became apparent to me that most Biblical scholars did not share my assumption. Virtually without exception, Biblical scholars both past and present approach the question of Hebrew origins from a religious point of view. Rather than adopt what is reliably known about the Habiru as the starting point of their investigation, their normal tendency is to try to fit the Habiru into a picture of Hebrew origins which is ultimately derived from the story told in the Bible. But approached from this angle, the Habiru simply don’t fit. In particular, the Hebrews described in the Bible constitute a tribe or nation, but the Habiru were clearly a social class. While many Biblical scholars are willing to admit that there may be a connection between the words “Hebrew” and “Habiru,” only a small minority are willing to entertain the possibility that the Hebrews may have actually been Habiru.

http://www.newenglishreview.org/Robert_Wol...

Tuesday, June 16th 2015 at 6:38PM
Steve Williams
Steve
Research the Hyksos /-Habiru / Hebrews
Tuesday, June 16th 2015 at 8:04PM
Sylvainy R
Wow!!! I got a question for you. Are you saying that this link http://stewartsynopsis.com/Isreal.htm to what?

To the point of answering your question about who are The Gentiles, let me repost my answer again and save you the look.
Genesis 10:2-4, Japheth begot Gomer (*Galatians) (**Germany, Crimea, Cambria, Celts), Magog (*Scythians) (**Georgia, Scythians), Madai (*Medes), Javan (*Grecians), Tubal (*Iberes), Meshech (**Moscow), and Tiras. Gomer begot Ashkenaz (*Rheginians) (**Germany, Saxons, Scandavia), Riphath, and Togarmah. Javan begot Elishah, Tarshish, Kittim (**Cyprus) (Abraham ibn Ezra said the Romans were descended from Kittim), and Dodanim. (*denotes The Complete Works of Josephus. **denotes The table of the Nations off the Web)

Brother Soso,

5 By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations. Genesis 5

Noah have three sons after the flood, the son named Japheth and his children are the gentiles and if you noticed I have put right beside their names, the countries which they have settled. Brother Soso, they lived in Europe to this day. Now can you understand that.

This is my answer to your question Brother Soso, YOUR WORDS: Deacon Ron Gray Who are the original Hebrews???

Tuesday, June 16th 2015 at 8:16PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Deacon:
Ok I think I got it, Noah was a Hebrew who had three sons, now after the flood that destroyed all life on planet earth only Noah and his wife who was Hebrew and his three sons and their wives who were Hebrews survived the flood, so they replenish the earth thus making everyone on planet earth today a Hebrew and from this line came the Gentiles does this sound about right???

Tuesday, June 16th 2015 at 9:11PM
Sylvainy R
I may add, who had son named Japheth and his children became the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations. YES!!!

With that said, are you coming to answer my question.

YOUR WORDS: This link Bro Deacon http://stewartsynopsis.com/Isreal.htm

My QUESTION: Are you saying that this link http://stewartsynopsis.com/Isreal.htm to what?

Tuesday, June 16th 2015 at 9:35PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Deacon
So based on the flood you are saying everyone on planet earth today is a Hebrew is that correct ???
Tuesday, June 16th 2015 at 9:48PM
Sylvainy R
At this point I am trying to understand this, what you said to me.

YOUR WORDS: This link Bro Deacon http://stewartsynopsis.com/Isreal.htm

My QUESTION: Are you saying that this link http://stewartsynopsis.com/Isreal.htm to what?


Tuesday, June 16th 2015 at 9:51PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Bro Deacon
You are the one that posted that link

Brother Soso,

Did I answer your question about "Who are The Gentiles? Do you understand who they are?

Who are the original Hebrews?This is a good question. It was Black Hebrews who Lived in the original Israel of The Bible http://stewartsynopsis.com/Isreal.htm


Tuesday, June 16th 2015 at 10:17AM
Deacon Ron Gray
Tuesday, June 16th 2015 at 9:52PM
Sylvainy R
Brother Soso,

Did you not thank me for this link? http://stewartsynopsis.com/Isreal.htm

Then you went on to say I Quote: The Arabs did not start the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade The Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade started with the Portuguese Prince Henry the Navigator IN 1441 during the Portuguese exploration in West Africa who 11 black men back to Europe and give them as servant to the Catholic Pope the pope give Henry the Navigator 300 miles of land along the coast of West Africa as a gift by 1445 the Catholic Pope put out an edit

Now that got me puzzled brother Soso, What did that link that I gave you to look at, that will explain who the original Hebrews are, to making that leap from the original content of that link, to The subject of who started up the Trans- Atlantic slave trade.

Please help me to clear that up before we can move forward.

Tuesday, June 16th 2015 at 10:35PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Correction Bro Deacon It was this link Who Started the Slave Trade? http://glithehiddentruth.weebly.com/trans-...
This is more proof outside of The Holy Bible.
Monday, June 15th 2015 at 11:27PM
Deacon Ron Gray
Tuesday, June 16th 2015 at 10:52PM
Sylvainy R
Now that we cleared that up. With you permission I will move on to your question: "So based on the flood you are saying everyone on planet earth today is a Hebrew is that correct ???"

No!!! What I am saying, we are all Brothers and Sisters under Father YAH / GOD.


Tuesday, June 16th 2015 at 11:10PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Bro Deacon
Perhaps it is my inability to comprehend you did mentioned the original Hebrew there are a few places where you did mentioned Hebrew, Then you mentioned Noah his three sons and the flood

I ask you since Noah’s flood wiped out everyone on this planet except for Noah his wife and his son’s wife that survived this flood does that make everyone on this planet a Hebrew (YOU) Said ( No!!! What I am saying, we are all Brothers and Sisters under Father YAH / GOD) is this correct Bro Deacon

Wednesday, June 17th 2015 at 10:50AM
Sylvainy R
Brother Deacon,

Did you happen to review this link?

http://www.newenglishreview.org/Robert_Wol...

Wednesday, June 17th 2015 at 10:53AM
Steve Williams

Brother Soso,

Don't you worry about a thing, I will take time with you because someone took the time with me and my disabilities as we'll. "YES" Brother Soso, that is exactly what I said and my proof is that very human being on this planet shares a "Y" chromosome which makes all of us connected as Brothers and Sidters in the human family under The Creator.


Wednesday, June 17th 2015 at 2:20PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Bro Deacon
I’ve learned one cannot wake someone who is pretending to be a sleep I am fully aware there is a movement of Black People going about calling themselves Hebrews or The Original Hebrews I can see why base on Noah and his flood

When we consider a cubic is 1.5 feet and this god told Noah to build an ark 300 cubic long =450 feet long, 50 cubic wide= 75 feet wide, 30 cubic high = 45 feet high, after the rain there was 15 cubic of water deep, = 22.5 feet deep, the entire planet drowned in 22.5 feet of water this is according to your bible based on that I see why we are all Hebrews

Nonetheless I understand why you think and say the things you say, however the question was never about the "Y" chromosome” but thanks for the edification

Wednesday, June 17th 2015 at 2:33PM
Sylvainy R
So you can see why we are all Hebrews can you and not Brothers and Sisters under The Creator. Tell me why is that?


Wednesday, June 17th 2015 at 3:26PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Deacon: Are you really being serious??? Please tell me you are not


Wednesday, June 17th 2015 at 4:23PM
Sylvainy R
Brother SoSo,

You wrote it... The question is, are you serious? Is this what you do when you cannot prove your point?

If you will, let us get back on topic with the material and the content of this video.

The question is "Can Anyone Debunk What You Are About To See?" You call it a bucket with holes, where are the holes? You say I have no evidence and I say that The Holy Bible is a book of prophecy which have came to pass for The Hebrew people, our people.

Brother Soso, the FACT that the prophecy written in The Holy Bible in The Book of Deuteronomy 28 which was written some 1900 years before the Atlantic Slave Trade which came to pass is not enough proof for you?

Wednesday, June 17th 2015 at 8:37PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon,

Your interpretation of this prophecy depends on 'Egypt', in verse 68, being a metaphor. But in the same verse you take 'ships' as literal, and as far as I remember, the rest of chapter 28 as literal. I am the first to agree the Bible is full of metaphor and allegory, and in this verse 'ships' is also a metaphor. The interpretation of this verse is to be understood in the context of the parting of the Red Sea. It's saying that when Jehovah brought Israel out of Egypt it was by divine agency, but when Israel turns it's back on Jehovah they will be without protection, subject to human agencies.

Thursday, June 18th 2015 at 4:46AM
Steve Williams
The chosen people were not chosen, they were shaped and formed through trials and hardship. Isn't this the process by which we still become endeared to God? We are all chosen whoever will overcome this world and keep HIM first
Thursday, June 18th 2015 at 5:23AM
Clint X
Brother Steve, let me talk about Deuteronomy 28 for a moment. This chapter is a very large exposition of two words, the blessing and the curse. They are real things and have real effects. The blessings are here put before the curses. God is slow to anger, but swift to show mercy. It is his delight to bless. It is better that we should be drawn to what is good by a child-like hope of God's favour, than that we be frightened to it by a slavish fear of his wrath. The blessing is promised, upon condition that they diligently hearken to the voice of God. Let them keep up religion, the form and power of it, in their families and nation, then the providence of God would prosper all their outward concerns.

Deuteronomy 28:15-44
If we do not keep God's commandments, we not only come short of the blessing promised, but we lay ourselves under the curse, which includes all misery, as the blessing all happiness. Observe the justice of this curse. It is not a curse causeless, or for some light cause. The extent and power of this curse. Wherever the sinner goes, the curse of God follows; wherever he is, it rests upon him. Whatever he has is under a curse. All his enjoyments are made bitter; he cannot take any true comfort in them, for the wrath of God mixes itself with them. Many judgments are here stated, which would be the fruits of the curse, and with which God would punish the people of the Jews, for their apostacy and disobedience. We may observe the fulfilling of these threatenings in their present state. To complete their misery, it is threatened that by these troubles they should be bereaved of all comfort and hope, and left to utter despair. Those who walk by sight, and not by faith, are in danger of losing reason itself, when everything about them looks frightful.

This is what my ancestors was placed upon them and their children as we walked by sight and not by faith, like many of us are still turning their backs on The Most High doing today, even in the face of all these FACTS of who the original Hebrews are. They refuse to see that the Hebrews are not some white Jew but it is the Black Hebrews which we are there descendants.

Deuteronomy 28:45-68

If God inflicts vengeance, what miseries his curse can bring upon mankind, even in this present world! Yet these are but the beginning of sorrows to those under the curse of God. What then will be the misery of that world where their worm dieth not, and their fire is not quenched! Observe what is here said of the wrath of God, which should come and remain upon the Israelites for their sins. It is amazing to think that a people so long the favourites of Heaven, should be so cast off; and yet that a people so scattered in all nations should be kept distinct, and not mixed with others. If they would not serve God with cheerfulness, they should be compelled to serve their enemies. We may justly expect from God, that if we do not fear his fearful name, we shall feel his fearful plagues; for one way or other God will be feared. The destruction threatened is described. They have, indeed, been plucked from off the land, verse 63. Not only by the Babylonish captivity, and when Jerusalem was destroyed by the Romans; but afterwards, when they were forbidden to set foot in Jerusalem. They should have no rest; no rest of body, ver. 65, but be continually on the remove, either in hope of gain, or fear of persecution. No rest of the mind, which is much worse. They have been banished from city to city, from country to country; recalled, and banished again. These events, compared with the favor shown to Israel in ancient times, and with the prophecies about them, should not only excite astonishment, but turn unto us for a testimony, assuring us of the truth of Scripture. And when the other prophecies of their conversion to Christ shall come to pass, the whole will be a sign and a wonder to all the nations of the earth, and the forerunner of a general spread of true Christianity. The fulfilling of these prophecies upon the Jewish nation, delivered more than three thousand years ago, shows that Moses spake by the Spirit of God; who not only foresees the ruin of sinners, but warns of it, that they may prevent it by a true and timely repentance, or else be left without excuse. And let us be thankful that Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, by being made a curse for us, and bearing in his own person all that punishment which our sins merit, and which we must otherwise have endured forever. To this Refuge and salvation let sinners flee; therein let believers rejoice, and serve their reconciled God with gladness of heart, for the abundance of his spiritual blessings.

Brother Steve, in short Egypt represents a country of bondage and power known to our fathers but The United States was a country of bondage unknown to our fathers, as prophesized in The Holy Bible. Now Ship was mentioned, that would be the only mode of transportation known to transport some 10 million souls across, what many of us called the big river into bondage.

Thursday, June 18th 2015 at 9:37AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Bro Deacon
it's not about proving a point, this conversation in my opinion is NOT about proving points or who is right and who is wrong, Again Deacon this is a fact NO one can Debunk a belief or a faith base system, Your Beliefs and your faith cannot be proven neither can they be disproven

Your Beliefs and your faith Deacon are absent of evidence YOU OR AYNONE can prove without a doubt that this god chose Israel or this god spoke ONE WORD and DEACON, that is a FACT,
In this context Deacon

the only reason you believe what you believe and have Faith in what you believe is call INDOCTRINATION and it started when we were babies in the crib we were thought to have faith and believe in something we didn’t even understand and that’s a fact and

Bro Deacon That is the greatest CRIME ever committed against the human mind that Bro Deacon is a fact, here is another FACT Bro Deacon: when it comes to religion you believe what you believe because someone told you god did something or god said something and you believe it, that is a fact and I’ll challenge even the POPE to prove me wrong

Bro Deacon again NO ONE can Debunk a belief or a faith base system it is impossible hence my reason to keep asking you for proof and evidence, because If this god told somebody he would have also told you and I and everyone else about his / her chosen people and chosen Israel then we would all be on the same page in the same book same chapter same verse


Thursday, June 18th 2015 at 2:00PM
Sylvainy R
Brother Deacon
If this god you are talking about who is here there and everywhere knows what you are going to do before you do it infinite in knowledge and wisdom you are saying this god is slow to anger??? then Why would this god create human in his image that he / she already know what they are going to do or not do only to curse or bless them???

If this god is swift to show mercy where is the mercy for the past 400+ years for Black people??? Deacon god promises blessings on condition??? Really !!!

Bro Deacon I find rather repulsive when you make reference to black people being curse by this god and using the bible which was used to justify the brutality and slavery against black people for profit and pleasure and it is still happening to this day What, your angle Deacon??? Let’s talk man to man let’s talk

Thursday, June 18th 2015 at 3:21PM
Sylvainy R
Brother Soso,

YOUR WORDS: it's not about proving a point, this conversation in my opinion is NOT about proving points or who is right and who is wrong.

I never did go down that street about you proving a point or who is right and who is wrong. You make this statement but you never did point out the holes in the bucket. What part of what you saw is that bucket and what part is the hole and can you be more specific about your topics, instead of being so vague? You say I have no evidence and I say that The Holy Bible is a book of prophecy which have came to pass for The Hebrew people, our people. This is not a belief, this is a FACT that our ancestors lived as slaves in this country as was prophesies in The Holy Bible.

What other people that you know of who fits these predictions?

Brother Soso, the FACT that the prophecy written in The Holy Bible in The Book of Deuteronomy 28 which was written some 1900 years before the Atlantic Slave Trade which came to pass, is not enough proof for you?


YOUR WORDS: Your Beliefs and your faith Deacon are absent of evidence YOU OR AYNONE can prove without a doubt that this god chose Israel or this god spoke ONE WORD and DEACON, that is a FACT

Brother Soso, The evidence that I have is history to back me up. Was it a FACT that the Romans came and conquered and occupied Israel in 70 A.D.? That was prophesies back in the days of Moses, told to him by The Most High and written in the first five books of The Holy Bible before it happen. Was that from the words of The Most High or did that happen just on circumstance?

The evidence that history tells us that the Hebrews fled to the west of Africa and was put into slavery to be sold by the Arabs to the Europeans, which completed the Atlantic Slave Trade from the 16 thru 19 centuries was foretold, prophesies back in the days of Moses Told to him by The Most High and written in the first five books of The Holy Bible before it happen. Was that from the words of The Most High or did that happen just on circumstance?

YOUR WORDS: the only reason you believe what you believe and have Faith in what you believe is call INDOCTRINATION and it started when we were babies in the crib we were thought to have faith and believe in something we didn’t even understand and that’s a fact

No Brother Soso, this is something that I learned in my late Teens and early Twenties, when I came home from Vietnam in the mid 60’s and early 70’s to who The Black Man’s Awareness to who’s we are was much stronger than it is today. This crib story has no credibility, this truly is that bucket with a hole in it. You don’t know me and you certainly did not know me from some crib and that is a FACT.

See Brother Soso, My only hope for this dialog is for you to focus on the material presented, then trying to analyze the messenger.

YOUR WORDS: Bro Deacon That is the greatest CRIME ever committed against the human mind that Bro Deacon is a fact, here is another FACT Bro Deacon: when it comes to religion you believe what you believe because someone told you god did something or god said something and you believe it, that is a fact and I’ll challenge even the POPE to prove me wrong

A CRIME against the human mind that Bro Deacon is a fact What is a CRIME, this is not a complete thought here. Are you talking about my belief in religion?

YES!!! No need to challenge any one when you are talking to me, my words are good enough, don’t you think? YES!!!By all means, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it. At one time in my life, I could not read the words of The Most High, I could only hear the word of The Most High. Now I can also read it for myself and begin to understand the mysteries of those words. Then I could make a decision to follow him and obey his words.

YOUR WORDS: Bro Deacon again NO ONE can Debunk a belief or a faith base system it is impossible hence my reason to keep asking you for proof and evidence, because If this god told somebody he would have also told you and I and everyone else about his / her chosen people and chosen Israel then we would all be on the same page in the same book same chapter same verse

The belief or faith is not the most important theme but the people to whom these prophesies and events happen too. I am saying that the original Hebrews are our ancestors and the chain of events happen to the Hebrew, that came to pass and that is the reason why the Black American, tribe of Judah are here today.
Many of us are still resisting that FACT, Now Brother Soso, that is what you saw in the video presentation and that is what this Blog is about. “Can Anyone Debunk What You Are About To See?” The FACT that this happen to our people and not some so-called gentile Jew is the focus and the agenda here and it always been that.

YOUR WORDS: If this god you are talking about who is here there and everywhere knows what you are going to do before you do it infinite in knowledge and wisdom you are saying this god is slow to anger??? then Why would this god create human in his image that he / she already know what they are going to do or not do only to curse or bless them???

At that time and space The Most High was all was needed. This was moment was before he gave us his Son. With that gift The Most High also given you a very powerful gift and that is FREE WILL. It is very hard for us to except the FACT that we are his people even after the FACT that there is no other people in history that his word came real. If you can debunk that, then what other people did this things, this slavery happen too, Brother Soso?

YOUR WORDS: If this god is swift to show mercy where is the mercy for the past 400+ years for Black people??? Deacon god promises blessings on condition??? Really !!!

The mercy will be ours after 400+ years of unrefuted proof that the prophecies of The Holy Bible happen to know other people, other than the Black American, descendants of the original Hebrew / slaves. MY GREATEST PROOF IS OUR SLAVERY THAT THE MOST HIGH TOLD MOSES WHAT WOULD HAPPEN AND WRITTEN IN THE HOLY BIBLE IF WE WOULD NOT HEAR HIS WORDS AND KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS. THAT, ALL BY IT SELF MY BROTHER SHOULD BE A TURNING POINT IN THIS DISCUSSION, IT WAS FOR ME.

YOUR WORDS: Bro Deacon I find rather repulsive when you make reference to black people being curse by this god and using the bible which was used to justify the brutality and slavery against black people for profit and pleasure and it is still happening to this day What, your angle Deacon??? Let’s talk man to man let’s talk

Brother Soso, I am very sorry that your feelings are getting in the way of your sense, logic, judgement, Lucidity and your rationality. I am not here to argue of the point of The Holy Bible which was used to justify the brutality and slavery against black people for profit and pleasure and which it is still happening to this day.
I am here to show you the connection between the original Hebrew of The Holy Bible and our situation today as the descendants of those slaves. See, the people who enslaved us knew who we was and they tried to beat that knowledge of our connection to The Most High out of us, to make us think that we are the lowest humans on earth. However, The Most High ordained that his words be translated from the forgotten Hebrew language of his people, into a new language to our people called English. The Most High hid the truth in plain view from the enemy of his people so, when we do wake up, we can see and understand the mysteries of his words and then TEACH that GOOD NEWS.

See Brother Soso, you don’t have to take my word for this, you can do the research and you will find the evidence for yourself, if you care to look. I have also did a nineteen part series on who the original Hebrew are and posted this information on Black In American which, I got little or no response from you then.



Thursday, June 18th 2015 at 8:12PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon: You ask me if this Is what i do when i cannot prove my point? And my response to you was it’s not about proving a point or who is wrong or right, once Again Deacon your entire video Deacon is like a bucket with holes in the bottom for someone to carry water and it does not fly it does not apply to black people period and that’s not vague and any black person who believes this garbage is totally disconnected from reality

Deacon it’s a problem when you mix facts with fiction yes it’s a fact our ancestors lived and still lives as slaves in this country however NO it’s NOT a fact they were Hebrews

Deacon: Slavery has been around from the beginning of mankind so NO it’s NOT a prophecy in fact the word prophecy back then according to historian meant playing music
.
Brother Deacon please tell me which Holy Bible or Book of Deuteronomy 28 which was written some 1900 years before the Atlantic Slave Trade please let me know the name of that bible and which version

Deacon Romans that came and conquered and occupied Israel in 70 A.D is not the issue here the issue here is what is your proof and evidence that this god chose Israel

Deacon: Deuteronomy 34:5-6 King James Version (KJV 5 So Moses the servant of the LORD died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the LORD.
6 And he buried him in a valley in the land of Moab, over against Bethpeor: but no man knoweth of his sepulchre unto this day. Deacon: I ask you did Moses write this??? Did this god write this?? If neither then WHO wrote it please let me know
In FACT you don’t have any proof that Moses who is credited with the first five books in the bible ever existed, please find me a tomb a mummy a grave site don’t worry we got time

Deacon “Hebrews fled to the west of Africa and was put into slavery to be sold by the Arabs to the Europeans, which completed the Atlantic Slave Trade from the 16 thru 19 centuries was foretold, prophesies back in the days of Moses Told to him by The Most High and written in the first five books of The Holy Bible before it happen” Brother Deacon it is coherently dangerous when you mix history with biblical fiction this is what is call cutting off your feet to fit the shoe


Brother Deacon I thank you for your service in Vietnam However if its in your late teens early Twenties it still is INDOCTRINATION and that’s a FACT
Deacon telling me your only hope for this dialog is for me to focus on the material presented, then trying to analyze the messenger is you trying to control and tell me what and how to think and don’t even try it

Deacon if you are preaching these things to black people because of some curse of Ham that god curse black people and that’s why we are brutally beaten and enslave I say to you it’s no wonder some of our brothers and sisters are bleaching their skin to look white, It’s no wonder white people are killing black people at a dime a dozen this Deacon is preaching self-hate

Friday, June 19th 2015 at 12:59AM
Sylvainy R
Brother Soso,

I see that I have answered you word for word and you still want to pick and choose your talking points.

YOUR WORDS: Brother Deacon: You ask me if this Is what i do when i cannot prove my point? And my response to you was it’s not about proving a point or who is wrong or right, once Again Deacon your entire video Deacon is like a bucket with holes in the bottom for someone to carry water and it does not fly it does not apply to black people period and that’s not vague and any black person who believes this garbage is totally disconnected from reality

If The Book of Deuteronomy 28 is not talking about black people then who is this scripture talking about. For some reason you did not answer that question of if this is not talking about our people, The Black Hebrew people, Then who? You conveniently left that part out, WHY?

YOUR WORDS: Deacon it’s a problem when you mix facts with fiction yes it’s a fact our ancestors lived and still lives as slaves in this country however NO it’s NOT a fact they were Hebrews

Where is your proof of that Brother Soso? I have shown you on many occasions my proof that “YAH” was talking to his people then and still talking to the same people today, his people right now.

YOUR WORDS: Deacon: Slavery has been around from the beginning of mankind so NO it’s NOT a prophecy in fact the word prophecy back then according to historian meant playing music

You got to show me this. You are saying that the basic fundamentals of Slavery in Biblical times was playing music, WHAT! I will keep an open mind on this one, show me your proof, can you do that?

I will stop right here for a moment because you have peaked my curiosity.

Friday, June 19th 2015 at 8:46AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
40 You will have olive trees in all your territory, but you will rub no oil on yourself, because your olives will drop off.

Brother Deacon,

There was never any olive production in any territory in the United States where slavery existed.

Friday, June 19th 2015 at 9:32AM
Steve Williams
Brother Steve,

The Holy Bible never specified what country which the Hebrew was spread out too. However you did mentioned The United States.

The United States rates 16th in the production of olives.

America is not new to olives and was first brought by the European settlers as early as in 1769. Although, the biggest importer and consumer outside Europe, its own domestic production is very small which accounts for only 0.1 percent of the global production. California is the only the state which grows almost all the olive trees in the United States of America. The Californian Olive Oil Council (COOC) issues the seal of quality backed by chemical analysis and panel tasting for higher quality.

If you think slavery did not exist in California take a look at this link. History of slavery in California https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_s...

Friday, June 19th 2015 at 12:26PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon: Perhaps I’m not asking the question correctly so I’ll try it this way based on this conversation I have evidence and proof that I am communicating with you and that is based on this conversation with you
Brother Deacon: Again you have NOT yet showed me proof of anything # 1. You cannot used the bible to prove the bible correct # 2, where in Deuteronomy 28 did this god who according to you spoke and mentioned anything about Black Hebrew or black people or Black African people please tell me where Deacon I have no idea who Deuteronomy 28 is talking and I will not attempt to assume who
Deacon: No I did NOT say the basic fundamentals of Slavery in Biblical times was playing music what I said is ACCORDIAN TO HISTORIAN THE word prophecy meant playing music
Brother Deacon:v 1 Samuel 10:5-6King James Version (KJV)
5 After that thou shalt come to the hill of God, where is the garrison of the Philistines: and it shall come to pass, when thou art come thither to the city, that thou shalt meet a company of prophets coming down from the high place with a psaltery, and a tabret, and a pipe, and a harp, before them; and they shall prophesy:
6 And the Spirit of the LORD will come upon thee, and thou shalt prophesy with them, and shalt be turned into another man
Deacon again I’m asking YOU what proof and evidence do you have that this “YAH” was talking to his people then and still talking to the same people today and has chosen Israel Deacon again you cannot use the bible to prove the bible correct Once again preaching this nonsense appears to me preaching self hate

Friday, June 19th 2015 at 1:31PM
Sylvainy R
Brother Deacon,

It does specify a country. That country is Egypt, which this video says is code for the United States, as proven by the fact that a pyramid is printed on the one dollar bill.

Friday, June 19th 2015 at 2:10PM
Steve Williams
I guess that was another video that shows the one dollar bill as proof.
Friday, June 19th 2015 at 2:18PM
Steve Williams
But verse 68 is clear that Egypt is where the ships will carry them.
Friday, June 19th 2015 at 2:21PM
Steve Williams
Brother Steve,

What about this olive production you claimed that was not in the U.S. During slavery? Will you have to rethink that one?


Friday, June 19th 2015 at 3:47PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon,

You are correct that slaves were in California, but my point was that California wasn't a slave state. Brother Deacon it seems obvious to me that the references in Deuteronomy 28 are to the land Israel settled in what is now known as the Middle East, but I see that I can't convince you.

Friday, June 19th 2015 at 5:29PM
Steve Williams
Brother Steve,

With this line of questioning, you have been jumping around some.



Friday, June 19th 2015 at 6:07PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Soso,

What are you talking about? The purpose of this blog is base on The Old Testament. The proof was prophesies in the prophesies in Deuteronomy and history bares it's proof.

What other people that you of was put into bondage with a yoke of iron around their necks and shipped to a land where our fathers knew not of? If you have another people in mind, let us talk about them, OK?

I have been talking about the orinignal Hebrews for quite sometime now and I stated that the Black American are there descendants and judging by the description found in Deuteronomy 28 I have been asking the question, what other fits those descriptions. I am not preaching self-hate Brother Soso, I am TEACHING self-awareness.

All we have to do is hear YAH'S voice and keep his commandments and we as his people will be blessed.



Friday, June 19th 2015 at 7:52PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon,

This video raises a lot of questions and I've tried to highlight a few of them. I have more, like where were the Israelite's fortified cities. We know they had these in Judea. Why do we need to look for them in America? Everything else in the Bible is about the Middle East, or no farther away than Rome. Only in this one chapter do you say it's talking about America, and that is only based on a flimsy interpretation of 'Egypt'.

Friday, June 19th 2015 at 8:41PM
Steve Williams
Brother Steve,

Your WORDS: This video raises a lot of questions and I've tried to highlight a few of them. I have more, like where were the Israelite's fortified cities.

Really Brother Steve, you made a jump from the Hebrews disobeying YAH’S commandments to a question like where were the Israelite's fortified cities. I believe that this question is beyond the scope of the information presented in the video.
YOUR QUESTION: Why do we need to look for them in America?

If you are still talking about those fortified cities, why would we be looking for the Israelite's fortified cities in America?

YOUR STATEMENT: Only in this one chapter do you say it's talking about America, and that is only based on a flimsy interpretation of 'Egypt'.

Why would you call this prophecy that involved tens of millions of Hebrews flimsy? Is this your attempt to debunk what you have seen?

Saturday, June 20th 2015 at 10:06AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon: We are talking about The Old Testament and in this dialog between you and I its Deuteronomy 28 and again I am asking you where in Deuteronomy 28 does it mentioned black people or black Hebrews or African people please tell me where???

Deacon I’m fully aware of my ancestors the nightmare / brutality and hardship they experienced I stand on their shoulders, Deacon you know the average black person fears the alleged word of god in the bible and when you Deacon are going to use the bible as reference to present day black peoples experiences, it is coherently dangerous and manipulative for power wealth and control over those who are less informed

Brother Deacon: Show me what’s positive in your message??? Again you are preaching self-hate based on this so-called word of god Deacon where is your proof that Black Americans are the descendants of these original so-ca

ll Black Hebrews based on Deuteronomy 28 Deacon based on what you are preaching about this YAH'S voice and by keeping his commandments is telling black people this god / YAH don’t like them thus they should hate themselves
Deacon based on what you are preaching to black people about hearing this YAH'S voice and keeping his commandments they will be blessed alright with the iron around their necks and remain in perpetual mental slavery

Saturday, June 20th 2015 at 10:56AM
Sylvainy R
Brother Deacon,

The word 'debunk' has a strong connotation of 'scorn', or 'ridicule'. So when you ask can anyone debunk this video, well yes, someone can scorn or ridicule this video. But I hope there is no perception that that's what I'm engaging in. If we take 'debunk' as a synonym for 'prove wrong', that is an impossibility. What I am doing is discussing the interpretation of these verses. As we know, the Bible is open to varying interpretations.

Brother Deacon, what is your interpretation of the following two verses? Were they fulfilled, and if so, where and when?

52 They will besiege you, shutting you up inside all your cities throughout your land until your high and fortified walls that you are trusting in fall down. Yes, they will certainly besiege you within all your cities throughout your land that Jehovah your God has given you. 53 Then you will have to eat your own children, the flesh of your sons and your daughters whom Jehovah your God has given you, because of the severity of the siege and the distress your enemy inflicts on you.

Saturday, June 20th 2015 at 11:21AM
Steve Williams
Brother Soso,

I may need your help with this, please point out where I am preaching-hate? What part of Deuteronomy is this self-Hate is found? If you will, if Deuteronomy 28 is not talking to the Black Hebrews who live on the continent of Africa, then what people are you talking about?

I am seeking your help.



Saturday, June 20th 2015 at 3:31PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon: You want me to point out to you where you are preaching-hate??? The fact that you mention iron around black peoples necks as a punishment from your alleged god is preaching self hate right from the get go so please don’t even try that with me, you are the one that posted Deuteronomy 28 and again I am asking you to please show me where in Deuteronomy 28 does it mention black people / black Hebrew / black American again please show me where?
Saturday, June 20th 2015 at 9:05PM
Sylvainy R
Brother Steve,

Yes, this passage was fulfilled. Right of the top Jerusalem comes to mind.

(3.) That their cities should be besieged, and that such would be the obstinacy of the besieged, and such the vigour of the besiegers, that they would be reduced to the last extremity, and at length fall into the hands of the enemy, Deut. 28:52. No place, though ever so well fortified, no, not Jerusalem itself, though it held out long, would escape. Two of the common consequences of a long siege are here foretold:—[1.] A miserable famine, which would prevail to such a degree that, for want of food, they should kill and eat their own children, Deut. 28:53. Men should do so, notwithstanding their hardiness, and ability to bear hunger; and, though obliged by the law of nature to provide for their own families, yet should refuse to give to the wife and children that were starving any of the child that was barbarously butchered, Deut. 28:54, 55. Nay, women, ladies of quality, notwithstanding their natural niceness about their food, and their natural affection to their children, yet, for want of food, should so far forget all humanity as to kill and eat them, Deut. 28:56, 57. Let us observe, by the way, how hard this fate must needs be to the tender and delicate women, and learn not to indulge ourselves in tenderness and delicacy, because we know not what we may be reduced to before we die; the more nice we are, the harder it will be to us to bear want, and the more danger we shall be in or sacrificing reason, and religion, and natural affection itself, to the clamours and cravings of an unmortified and ungoverned appetite. This threatening was fulfilled in the letter of it, more than once, to the perpetual reproach of the Jewish nation: never was the like done either by Greek or barbarian, but in the siege of Samaria, a woman boiled her own son, 2 Kgs. 6:28, 29. And it is spoken of as commonly done among them in the siege of Jerusalem by the Babylonians, Lam. 4:10. And, in the last siege by the Romans, Josephus tells us of a noble woman that killed and ate her own child, through the extremity of the famine, and when she had eaten one half secretly (Deut. 28:57), that she might have it to herself, the mob, smelling meat, got into the house, to whom she showed the other half, which she had kept till another time, inviting them to share with her. What is too barbarous for those to do that are abandoned of God! [2.] Sickness is another common effect of a strait and long siege, and that is here threatened.

Saturday, June 20th 2015 at 9:20PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.

Brother Soso,

That example is not preaching hate, this is something that happen, that was fulfilled, that came to pass and well documented. This was told the the Hebrew people, which came to pass on our forefathers, what is known this day as Black Americans.

Now, if by chance you can't see the African connection that history bares truth, the Hebrew Black connection that Hebrews and the Egyptians was both a Black nation and you still think that it was another group of people YAH was talking to, now is that time to present your case.




Saturday, June 20th 2015 at 9:45PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
de·bunk
dēˈbəNGk/
verb
expose the falseness or hollowness of (a myth, idea, or belief).

This is for all my Brothers what debunk means and you can debunk a belief with evidence.

synonyms: explode, deflate, quash, discredit, disprove, contradict, controvert, invalidate, negate; More
reduce the inflated reputation of (someone), especially by ridicule.
"comedy takes delight in debunking heroes"
Saturday, June 20th 2015 at 9:59PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon,

So basically the Israelites have been cursed for most of their existence.

Sunday, June 21st 2015 at 8:02AM
Steve Williams
Brother Steve,

Very since the Hebrew people disobeyed YAH Israel has been in trouble according to The Holy Bible and the History books.


Sunday, June 21st 2015 at 11:26AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon,

But for 2000 years now Christ has been the power to lift that curse, correct?

Sunday, June 21st 2015 at 12:28PM
Steve Williams
Brother Deacon: I have no case to present please try that with a weak member of your congregation you keep avoiding my question, however you posted this video and ask the question, However Deacon It appears to me you have an identity problem and preaching self-hate, Deacon being Black is important enough. You, I and every other Black person on this earth don’t need anything else to validate who we are.

We are already important, and we don’t need to identify ourselves as Hebrews, Israelites, Jews or members of some lost tribe. We are Black Africans, Again Deacon no one and absolutely no one can debunk a belief or a faith based system.

Your belief and faith is absent of evidence. That’s what belief and faith is, absent of evidence. Again Deacon I’m asking you to show me proof in Deuteronomy 28 where it mentions black Hebrews or Black Americans being the descendants of this so called black Hebrews you are talking about.

Deacon Herodotus, The Greek Historian 484-ca. 425 BCE said the Egyptians have thick lips broad nose and woolly hair and burnt of skin, nothing was ever mentioned about black Hebrews, Black Americans
Deacon again I am asking you for proof where this god is talking??? Please that’s all I want proof and evidence

Sunday, June 21st 2015 at 4:09PM
Sylvainy R
Brother Soso.

I understand what is happening here. Most of our people of color are more vulnerable and are more easily to believe what is being told to them, especially when their history has been erased from their minds, and it is constantly battered in their heads through their educational systems, television, and movie theaters. Well, the time has come for the truth to be told. And what is that truth? That the people of the bible are people of color.

There is a strong African tradition that some of the descendants of Noah through his son Ham were black. Ham had a son named Cush, which means "black" in Hebrew. Cush is the most common term designating color in reference to persons, people or lands used in the Bible. It’s used 58 times in the King James Version. The Greek and Latin word is Ethiopia. In classical literature, Greek and Roman authors describe Ethiopians as black. Archaeology has found these people to be black. In the book of Jeremiah, the question is asked, "Can the Ethiopian change his skin?"

Genesis 10:6-20 describes the descendants of Ham as being located in North Africa, Central Africa and in parts of southern Asia.

Genesis 10:6-20 King James Version (KJV)

6 And the sons of Ham; Cush, and Mizraim, and Phut, and Canaan.
7 And the sons of Cush; Seba, and Havilah, and Sabtah, and Raamah, and Sabtechah: and the sons of Raamah; Sheba, and Dedan.
8 And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth.
9 He was a mighty hunter before the Lord: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the Lord.
10 And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar.
11 Out of that land went forth Asshur, and builded Nineveh, and the city Rehoboth, and Calah,
12 And Resen between Nineveh and Calah: the same is a great city.
13 And Mizraim begat Ludim, and Anamim, and Lehabim, and Naphtuhim,
14 And Pathrusim, and Casluhim, (out of whom came Philistim,) and Caphtorim.
15 And Canaan begat Sidon his first born, and Heth,
16 And the Jebusite, and the Amorite, and the Girgasite,
17 And the Hivite, and the Arkite, and the Sinite,
18 And the Arvadite, and the Zemarite, and the Hamathite: and afterward were the families of the Canaanites spread abroad.
19 And the border of the Canaanites was from Sidon, as thou comest to Gerar, unto Gaza; as thou goest, unto Sodom, and Gomorrah, and Admah, and Zeboim, even unto Lasha.

20 These are the sons of Ham, after their families, after their tongues, in their countries, and in their nations.
Brother Soso, I like to High Light Genesis 10:6-20 describes the descendants of Ham as being located in North Africa, Central Africa and in parts of southern Asia. These are Black Nations and the lands of Hams children’s made these mighty nations after their names 6 And the sons of Ham; Cush means ETHIOPIA, and Mizraim means EGYPT, and Phut means Libya, and Canaan is where Israel, Palestine and Jerusalem, the homelands of The Hebrew are, all of which are Black Nations at the time of The Holy Bible was being written.

Here’s where more evidence in the Bible who the original people of the Bible are.

Psalm 105:23 mentions the "land of Ham" in Egypt, and Psalm 78:51 connects the "tents of Ham" with Egypt.

Psalm 105:23 King James Version (KJV) 23 Israel also came into Egypt; and Jacob sojourned in the land of Ham.

Psalm 78:51 He struck down all the firstborn of Egypt, the firstfruits of manhood in the tents of Ham.

Old Testament evidence of Black Hebrews
In Genesis 10, Nimrod, son of Cush (whose name means "black"), founded a civilization in Mesopotamia.

In Genesis 11, Abraham was from Ur of the Chaldees, a land whose earliest inhabitants included blacks. The people of the region where Abraham came from can be proven historically and archaeologically to have been intermixed racially. So it is possible that Abraham and those who traveled with him could have been racially mixed.

Genesis 14 tells how Abraham’s experiences in Canaan and Egypt brought him and his family into areas inhabited by peoples who were very likely black. Both archaeological evidence and the account in 1 Chronicles 4 tell us that the land of Canaan was inhabited by the descendants of Ham.

Further black presence can be found in the accounts of Hagar the Egyptian, Ishmael and his Egyptian wife, and Ishmael’s sons, especially Kedar. The Kedarites are mentioned many times in Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel and Nehemiah, and the word kedar means "blackness."

Still further evidence of black presence in the patriarchal period appears with Joseph’s experiences in Egypt. Joseph married an Egyptian woman, Asenath, who was descended from Mizraim, which made her Hamitic. Thus there is a strong possibility that Asenath was black. She was the mother of Ephraim and Manasseh.

The New Testament

The New Testament also contains ample evidence of a black presence. Acts 8 tells the story of the Ethiopian eunuch, one of the first Gentiles to be baptized. He came from a black region, so he may have been black. In Acts 13 we read of Simeon, called Niger, the Latin term for black. There is also Lucias from Cyrene, a geographical location of black people.

I only hope that you would do the research but I will leave you with these passages for you to explore. Here’s three passages from the bible identifying the color of the Israelites. They are:
Lamentation 4:8, Their visage (face) is blacker than coal
Lamentation 5:10, Our skin was black like an oven . . .
; And Job 30:30, My skin is black upon me . . .

Sunday, June 21st 2015 at 7:02PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
You surprise me Brother Deacon! The Ethiopian was Jewish, not Gentile!

27 With that he got up and went, and look! an E·thi·oʹpi·an eunuch, a man who had authority under Can·daʹce, queen of the E·thi·oʹpi·ans, and who was in charge of all her treasure. He had gone to Jerusalem to worship.

Sunday, June 21st 2015 at 7:26PM
Steve Williams
Brother Deacon: I don’t want you to understand what is happening I want you to see what you are doing and Again you are avoiding my question to you please show me where in Deuteronomy 28 does it mentioned Black Hebrews, or Black Americans being the descendants of Black Hebrews Deacon Egypt is the baby to Ethiopia
Deacon: we are not dealing with the books of beginning (Genesis) we are dealing with Deuteronomy 28 Brother Deacon: Please all I want is for you to show me the proof where in Deuteronomy 28 it mentioned Black Hebrews, or Black Americans being the descendants of Black Hebrews

Sunday, June 21st 2015 at 7:40PM
Sylvainy R
Brother Soso,

Please forgive me I made a careless error that you understood that Moses and the elders of Israel commanded the Black Hebrew people to: “Keep all these commands that I give you today. Brother Soso, Deuteronomy 28 is a continuation of Deuteronomy 27 which is clearly talking to the Hebrew people what to do from The Altar on Mount Ebal.

The reason why I went to The Book of Genesis was to show you that the people, the Black African, The Black Hebrew people of The Bible was being featured in this book. Now if you got another people that best fits the description written in both Deuteronomy 27-28 now is the time to bring them forth.

Now, Brother Soso, I will ask you, do you know the story of Joseph?

Sunday, June 21st 2015 at 9:23PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Steve,

This is the way The Ethiopian is described as a eunuch and a treasury official at the court of Queen Candace (Acts 8:27).

Scott Shauf suggests that the "primary point of the story is about carrying the gospel to the end of the earth, not about establishing a mission to Gentiles," and thus Luke "does not bring the Gentile status of the Ethiopian into the foreground." However, "the suggestion that the eunuch is or at least might be a Gentile in the story, by both his ethnic and possibly physical description, serves to tantalize the reader with the mystery of the situation. "The eunuch may have been from Nubia or the Sudan: David Tuesday Adamo suggests that the word used here (Áßèßïø, aithiops) is best translated simply as "African."

Commentators generally suggest that the combination of "eunuch" together with the title "court official" indicates a literal eunuch, who would have been excluded from the Temple by the restriction in Deuteronomy 23:1. Some scholars point out that eunuchs were excluded from Jewish worship and extend the New Testament's inclusion of these men to other s*xual minorities; John J. McNeill, citing non-literal uses of "eunuch" in other New Testament passages such as Matthew 19:12 suggests that this eunuch was "the first baptized gay Christian," while Jack Rogers writes that "the fact that the first Gentile convert to Christianity is from a s*xual minority and a different race, ethnicity and nationality together":135 calls Christians to be radically inclusive and welcoming.

Brother Steve, During the New Testament The Ethiopian eunuch was describe as first Gentile convert to Christianity.
Sunday, June 21st 2015 at 9:42PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon, are you saying being a eunuch made him a gentile?
Sunday, June 21st 2015 at 9:51PM
Steve Williams
Brother Deacon, this is just another whiteman myth.
Sunday, June 21st 2015 at 9:54PM
Steve Williams
Brother Deacon you are forgiven: but please # 1 please show me where in Deuteronomy 27-28 where does it mentioned Black Hebrews or Black Americans being the descendants of Black Hebrews??? # 2 please provide me with evidence for the existence of anyone in the bible from Genesis to Revelation that ever historically existed please show me a grave site a tomb a mummy of any of these so-called Black Hebrews that you are talking about please
Sunday, June 21st 2015 at 10:04PM
Sylvainy R
Brother Steve,

This story is what's according to The Holy Bible in the New Testament. As to your statement of a white man's, you have that right Brother Steve.


Monday, June 22nd 2015 at 4:04AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Soso,

I was asking for forgiveness because of your ignorance on this subject and you are on a guest set forth on staying ignorent. I have answered where you can find direct quotes King Solomon call's himself Black and I showed you where to go but that fell on death eyes.

I know for a fact that the pharaoh of Egypt are black but the strangest thing happen in history, the 25th dynasty has been plucked from out of anals of history because this is times when two Black nations came together as one in Egypt. This was about the time when The First five books of the bible was written. But you don't want to hear that.

I have also shown you proof how after the books of the Bible completed how the Black Hebrew was force out of Israel in 70 AD by the Romans and how the Black Hebrew moved into west African until Islam speaded west to the other Black Nations to put the Hebrew into bondage but you don't want to hear that FACT after I asked to do the research but I now see that you have not.

I have asked you to bring forth you evidence to refute my FACTS of a Black Hebrew or that YAH was talking to The Black Hebrew and you have not but yet you have gone into this catch me if you can mode where all you say is proof this and proof that with you bring your evidence to the table.

Just go back into my past post and you will find the proof that you are seeking of a black presence in The Holy Bible and in history you will find that the oringinal people of the who was sold into bondage was the Black Hebrew by the Arabs. Do the research Brother Soso and you will find it all there.





Monday, June 22nd 2015 at 5:06AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon the definition of ignorant means lacking knowledge or awareness
So if that was an attempt to insult try again so Yes I am ignorant so educate me and enlighten my mind brother

Deacon you have showed me no proof of anything where in Deuteronomy 27-28 does it mentioned Black Hebrews or Black American being the descendants of Black Hebrews, Deacon what does the Song of Solomon 1:5-6King James Version (KJV) I am black, but comely has to do with Deuteronomy 27-28???

Deacon I agree to the fact the pharaoh of Egypt are black there’s archaeological evidence to prove that, tombs, pictures, mummies, Statues
Brother Deacon you are trying to chain link scriptures to prove your narrative and that my Brother is dangerous

Deacon it was about the 25th dynasty the two Black nations came together as one in Egypt that is when upper and lower Egypt joined forces you had the God Amen in the north and the God Ra in the South thus you get Amen Ra and to this day at the end of your prayer when you say Amen you are calling the God pharaoh Amen

Brother Deacon: There’s no question in my mind that there is black people in the bible that is NOT MY QUESTION to YOU my question to you Brother Deacon is show me where in the book of Deuteronomy 27-28 does it mentioned Black Hebrews or Black American being the descendants of Black Hebrew that’s all I ask then my ignorance will be lifted

Monday, June 22nd 2015 at 6:52AM
Sylvainy R
Divine origin of the Word

Since I cannot validly speak of any traditions I have not experienced or studied personally - those of forest countries, especially - I shall take my basic examples from the traditions of the savannah to the south of the Sahara (what was formerly called the Bafour and constituted the savannah zones of former French West Africa). The Bambara tradition of the Komo2 teaches that the Word, Kuma, is a fundamental force emanating from the Supreme Being himself — Maa Ngala, creator of all things. It is the instrument of creation: 'That which Maa Ngala says, is!' proclaims the cantor - the singing priest - of the god Komo. The myth of the creation of the universe and of man which the Komo Master of Initiates (who is always a smith) teaches circumcised youths reveals that when Maa Ngala felt a yearning for an interlocutor he created the First Man: Maa. The story of genesis used to be taught during the sixty-three-day retreat 2. One of the great initiation schools of the Mande (Mali). 168

imposed on the circumcised in their twenty-first year, and then twenty-one years were spent in deeper and deeper study of it. On the edge of the sacred wood, where Komo lives, the first of the circumcised group would chant to a rhythmic beat: Maa Ngala! Maa Ngala! Who is Maa Ngala? Where is Maa Ngala? The Komo chanter would respond: Maa Ngala is infinite Force. None can place him in time, Nor yet in space. He is Dombali (Unknowable) Dambali (Uncreated-Infinite). Then, after the initiation, the recital of the primordial genesis would begin: There was nothing except a Being. That Being was a living Emptiness, brooding potentially over contingent existences. Infinite Time was the abode of that One Being. The One Being gave himself the name Maa Ngala. Maa Ngala wished to be known. So he created Fan, a wondrous Egg with nine divisions, and into it he introduced the nine fundamental states of existence. 'When this primordial Egg came to hatch, it gave birth to twenty marvellous beings that made up the whole of the universe, the sum total of existing forces and possible knowledges. 'But alas! None of those first twenty creatures proved fit to become the interlocutor (Kuma-nyon) that Maa Ngala had craved. 'So he took a bit of each of those twenty existing creatures and mixed them; and then, blowing a spark of his own fiery breath into the mixture, he created a new Being, Man, to whom he gave a part of his own name: Maa. And so this new being, through his name and through the divine spark introduced into him, contained something of Maa Ngala himself.' Synthesis of all that exists, pre-eminent receptacle of the supreme Force and confluence of all existing forces, Maa, Man, received as his legacy a part of the divine creative power, the gift of Mind and the Word. Maa Ngala taught Maa, his interlocutor, the laws according to which all the elements of the cosmos were formed and continue to exist. He installed him as guardian of his universe and charged him with watching over the maintenance of universal harmony. That is why it weighs heavy, being Maa. 169

Initiated by his creator, Maa later passed all that he had learned on to his descendants; and that was the beginning of the great chain of initiatory oral transmission of which the order of Komo (like the orders of Nama, Kore, and so on, in Mali) claims to be a continuator. Once Maa Ngala had created his interlocutor Maa he spoke to him, and at the same time endowed him with the faculty of replying. A dialogue was begun between Maa Ngala, creator of all things, and Maa, symbiosis of all things. As they came down from Maa Ngala towards man, words were divine, because they had not yet come into contact with materiality. After their contact with corporeity they lost something of their divinity but took on sacredness. Hallowed in this way by the divine Word, corporeity in its turn gave out sacred vibrations which established relations with Maa Ngala. African tradition, then, conceives of speech as a gift of God. It is at once divine in the downward direction and sacred as it rises upwards.

Speech in man as creative power

Maa Ngala, it is taught, deposited in Maa the three potentialities of ability, willing and knowing contained in the twenty components of which he was composed. But all the forces to which he is heir lie dumb within him. They are static, till speech comes and sets them into motion. Then, vivified by the divine Word, they begin to vibrate. At a first stage they become thoughts, at a second sound, and at a third words. Speech - spoken words is therefore regarded as the materialization or externalization of the vibrations of forces. Let me point out, though, that at this level the terms 'speaking' and 'listening' refer to realities far more vast than those we usually attribute to them. It is said: 'The speech of Maa Ngala is seen, is heard, is smelled, is tasted, is touched.' It is a total perception, a knowing in which the entire being is engaged. In the same way, since speech is the externalization of the vibrations of forces, every manifestation of a force in any form whatever is to be regarded as its speech. That is why everything in the universe speaks: everything is speech that has taken on body and shape. In Fulfulde, the word for 'speech' (haala) is derived from the verbal root hal, the idea of which is 'to give strength' and by extension 'to make material'. Fulani tradition teaches that Gueno, the Supreme Being, conferred strength on Kiikala, the first man, by speaking to him. 'It was talking with God that made Kiikala strong', say the Silatiqui (the Fulani Master Initiates). If speech is strength, that is because it creates a bond of coming-andgoing (yaa-iparta, in Fulfulde) which generates movement and rhythm and therefore life and action. This movement to and fro is symbolized by the weaver's feet going up and down, as we shall see later in connection with the 170

traditional crafts. (In fact the symbolism of the loom is entirely based on creative speech in action.) In the image of Maa Ngala's speech, of which it is an echo, human speech sets latent forces into motion. They are activated and aroused by speech just as a man gets up, or turns, at the sound of his name. Speech may create peace, as it may destroy it. It is like fire. One illadvised word may start a war just as one blazing twig may touch off a great conflagration. In Malian adage: 'What puts a thing into condition [that is, arranges it, disposes it favourably]? Speech. What damages a thing? Speech. What keeps a thing as it is? Speech.' Tradition, then, confers on Kuma, the Word, not only creative power but a double function of saving and destroying. That is why speech, speech above all, is the great active agent in African magic.

Monday, June 22nd 2015 at 8:46AM
Steve Williams
Brother Soso,

I am very, very sorry that you felt insulted to the FACT that you had no knowledge that Deuteronomy 28 was a continuation of 27 I thought that you wanted to talk man to man however you keep letting your emotions block your path to reason and logic. This dialog is based not on a personal level so, don't you take it there by introducing your emotions in to this discussion. I don't want this important discussion to be side tracked by the Element of diffusion ever in this conversation.

In my last paragraph to you, should have cleared up your question of finding Black Americans in The Holy Bible anywhere in it but you will find in history of The Black Hebrew who was slaves at the times of the Atlantic Slave Trade who ended up in what is now known as U.S. Who history and religion was beat out of them and was not permitted to worship Judism, will be found in the history books. So, Brither Soso, you can drop this talking point of yours about finding Black Americans in The Holy Bible period.

Now, the proof that you are looking for like places, Israel and the remaining walls of the temple is still there, Jerusalem is still there, and there is living proof that the spirit of The living YAH is in the hearts of 400.000 to 500.000 Black Hebrews living here in the U.S. and Canada and tens of millions living in countries around the world who are keeping Judism alive in there families to this day, Brother Soso.
Monday, June 22nd 2015 at 9:33AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Thank you for a look at another African religion, this is beautiful in the way that The Bambara tradition and people is one way to relate to Komo2 explain the world around them.




Monday, June 22nd 2015 at 9:49AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon: I was not insulted and my emotion is not caught up in this discussion what others think does not define me I was simple saying IF it was meant as an insult you needed to try again Deacon I did not take it as an insult because Insults are not given they are taken

Brother Deacon one of the things I like most about you is you are very astute Brother Deacon, this is not talking points these are genuine questions I have and you are going around in circles trying to avoid answering directly, you posted the video you made the statement the burden of proof rest with you we are NOT talking about the Atlantic Slave Trade, the conversation Brother Deacon is for you to show in Deuteronomy 27, 28 where it states Black Hebrews or Black Americans being the descendants of 28 Black Hebrews

Deacon again when it comes to the bible and this so-called word of god most black people get scared and believe ever thing they hear WORDS MATTER Deacon, where is your proof of this spirit of The living YAH

Monday, June 22nd 2015 at 1:56PM
Sylvainy R
Brother Soso,

Deacon, where is your proof of this spirit of The living YAH

In the 400,000 to 500,000 of living Black Hebrews who have decided to hear the words of The Most High and keep his commandments in North America and Canada and in the Tens of Millions of Hebrews that was scattered to the far corners of the world.



Monday, June 22nd 2015 at 4:11PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.


Can Anyone Debunk What You Are About To See(and Read)?

----- My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge:

SUBJECT?

BIA, selfProfessed 'blackHebrewIsraelite' writes these stats?

"....400,000 to 500,000 of living Black Hebrews who have decided to hear the words of The Most High and keep his commandments in North America and Canada and in the ******Tens of Millions of Hebrews that was scattered to the far corners of the world....."

Monday, June 22nd 2015 at 3:11PM
Deacon Ron Gray

******************************would you consider these HebrewIsraelites in your 'figures'?

The demography of Israel is monitored by the Israel Central Bureau of Statistics.

The State of Israel has a population of approximately 8,296,000 inhabitants as of the end of 2014.

75% percent of them are Jewish (about 6,218,000 individuals),
20.7% are Arabs (about 1,719,000 individuals),
4.3% (about 359,000 individuals) are defined as "others" (including family members of Jewish immigrants who are not registered at the Ministry of Interior as Jews, non-Arab Christians, non-Arab Muslims and residents who do not have an ethnic or religious classification).

Israel's annual population growth rate stood at 2.0% in 2014

***your 'blackWhiteRedYellowHebrewIsraelite" folk MUST have an Astronomical GROWTH rate!





Monday, June 22nd 2015 at 5:49PM
robert powell
Mr. Powell,

If you have notice, since the beginning of this blog there have been a free flowing exchange of thought, even if you may disagree which I encourage without this clown like name calling. If you have input to this blog, leave that child like thinking right there where you came from. Now, you are welcome to join this conversation but that foolishness will not be tolerated.

Now the numbers that I posted are estimated numbers from North America and Canada and Black Hebrews scattered from around the world.

Monday, June 22nd 2015 at 6:29PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
The offer still stands. "Can Anyone Debunk What You Are About To See?"

Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge:

YAH / GOD is still talking to his people and the people are The Descendants of The Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade.

What other people fit the description set forth in Deuteronomy 28? If you have another people in mind, please, lets talk!

Tuesday, June 23rd 2015 at 5:25AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon,

It could be that Deuteronomy 28 is not a prophecy, or if it is, that it was never fulfilled.

Tuesday, June 23rd 2015 at 7:05AM
Steve Williams
Brother Deacon,

The Bible is the only place that God is said to have spoken to Moses, face to face. The Quran is the only place where Gabriel is said to have spoken to Mohammed, and Harry is the only who claims that God spoke to him in the shower.

Tuesday, June 23rd 2015 at 7:13AM
Steve Williams
Brother Steve,

What do you think Deuteronomy 28 is?

The down fall of Israel was complete by the Romans in 70 AD is that correct? That was predicted to happen in Deuteronomy 28.

The bondage part of Deuteronomy 28 happen, to YAH'S people, is that correct? Brother Steve, if you have other people in mind that fits the description set forth in Deuteronomy 28, then who, let us talk.





Tuesday, June 23rd 2015 at 7:40AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon,

The various conquests and captivities of Israel are attested outside of the Bible. But was that really so hard to predict? The part that can't be proven is that they were judgements of God. Brother Deacon, what do you make of Jehovah the God of Israel, in this passage from Judges 11?

30 Then Jephʹthah made a vow to Jehovah and said: “If you give the Amʹmon·ites into my hand, 31 then whoever comes out of the door of my house to meet me when I return in peace from the Amʹmon·ites will become Jehovah’s, and I will offer that one up as a burnt offering.” 32 So Jephʹthah went to fight against the Amʹmon·ites, and Jehovah gave them into his hand. 33 He struck them down with a very great slaughter from A·roʹer all the way to Minʹnith—20 cities—and as far as Aʹbel-kerʹa·mim. Thus the Amʹmon·ites were subdued before the Israelites. 34 Finally Jephʹthah came to his home in Mizʹpah, and look! his daughter was coming out to meet him, playing the tambourine and dancing! Now she was his one and only child. Besides her, he had neither son nor daughter. 35 When he saw her, he ripped his garments and said: “Oh no, my daughter! You have broken my heart, for you have become the one I have banished. Now I have opened my mouth to Jehovah, and I am unable to turn back.” 36 But she said to him: “My father, if you have opened your mouth to Jehovah, do to me as you have promised, since Jehovah has executed vengeance for you upon your enemies, the Amʹmon·ites.” 37 She then said to her father: “Let this be done for me: Let me be alone for two months, and let me go away into the mountains, and let me weep over my virginity with my female companions.” 38 At this he said: “Go!” So he sent her away for two months, and she went to the mountains with her companions to weep over her virginity. 39 At the end of two months, she returned to her father, after which he carried out the vow he had made regarding her. She never had relations with a man. And it became a custom
Tuesday, June 23rd 2015 at 7:50AM
Steve Williams

Can Anyone Debunk What You Are About To See(and Read)?

----- My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge:

SUBJECT?

BIA, selfProfessed 'blackHebrewIsraelite' writes.............?

"......Mr. Powell, If you have notice, since the beginning of this blog there have been a free flowing exchange of thought, even if you may disagree which I encourage without this clown like name calling. If you have input to this blog, leave that child like thinking right there where you came from. Now, you are welcome to join this conversation but that foolishness will not be tolerated.

Now the numbers that I posted are estimated numbers from North America and Canada and Black Hebrews scattered from around the world......"

Monday, June 22nd 2015 at 5:29PM
Deacon Ron Gray

*******************************************************

I, a believer of AtTawrah, AlQur'aan and the Sunnah of Mohamed(saw) have STATED already that AtTawrah is an African Asian Recording, for Africa Asia, in an African Asian language...........

AtTawrah englishGreek transliteration of Deuteronomy 28 and Hosea 4:6 and the MEANING of a questionable translation of "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge"------was for Mankind 's Monotheistic Belief and specifically the Hebraic People of 3000+ years ago that FLED pharoahnicPaganism..............

Do I; a Muslim:

----- have the RIGHT to join a 'blackHebrewIsraelite', a selfProfessed 'whiteMan' at BIA and his Brother soso in your pharoahnic antiMonotheistic Cartoon video commentary?

Again, for the 4th TIME --- your cartoonVideo is BUNK..........!

your mentallyChallenged mind must think that a CARTOON about some MORE racist noKNOWLEDGE means something in 2015............3000hits between you three.....

youALL racistlyChallenged TRIO, are DEBATING the racistTranslation Meaning of kingJames paganChristian European version of writings of History, Scholarship and Science of africanAsian events 2000+ years ago in the LANGUAGE that PRODUCED generationalTorture, Rape, Murder of the African Slave that is in 2015--- the African American that has to reject the RACISM of the 'real BattleFlag' --- borrowed from paganGreeks/Romans

the MONSTER knowledge that maintains the racistIgnorance of 2015

ps.

yourMind estimates of 'blackWhiteRedyHebrews', BASED on what? (tens of millions?????)




Tuesday, June 23rd 2015 at 9:19AM
robert powell
Did you miss my coming out Robert?
Tuesday, June 23rd 2015 at 10:48AM
Steve Williams
Robert,

I am very curious Robert, did you watch this video presentation?


Tuesday, June 23rd 2015 at 10:58AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Steve,

This is a great question, however my answer will be outside of the scope of this topic at hand. I would like to stay on topic, if you don't mind.

Now, you can respond to my replies if you like because I hope that I have brought closure to your on topic questions.


Tuesday, June 23rd 2015 at 12:00PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon
I see you are having a very hard time answering my question, But I understand Preachers must take a stance for the sake of their followers Brother Deacon what you are doing to these followers of yours based on Deuteronomy 27-28 is teaching them self-hate because this god allegedly cursed Black people woman men and CHILDREN

brutalized them caused chains and iron to be place around their necks shackles on their feet beaten to death thrown overboard in the Atlantic ocean while still in chains

Brother Deacon if what they say is true that this god knows what you are going to do before you do it, if this god THAT they say is INFINATE in knowledge wisdom understanding compassion and the list goes on and on WHY ??? would this god who know what you are going to do before you do it caused CHILDREN WOMAN NEM to be brutalized and enslave WHY???

Tuesday, June 23rd 2015 at 12:47PM
Sylvainy R
Brother Deacon,

Respectfully, I am questioning whether God takes sides in human aggression, either for the Israelites, as in Judges 11, or against, as in Deuteronomy 28. To be blunt, I think the conception of God os jealous, wrathful, vengeful, cursing, in short a god of war and destruction, is abhorrent.

Tuesday, June 23rd 2015 at 12:52PM
Steve Williams
That God put a curse on the African people? No Brother Deacon, that I will never believe.
Tuesday, June 23rd 2015 at 12:55PM
Steve Williams
Brother Soso,

I am not having a hard time with answering your question and I don't preach hate but you have looked right over the most important part of Deuteronomy 27 - 28 YAH gave the Hebrews a choice to choose him and we decided not too follow The Most High so, it was all on the Hebrew, that is whey? It was Our ancestors who turned their backs on the YAH (GOD.)


Tuesday, June 23rd 2015 at 2:38PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon: Faith DEMANDS the suspension you your critical thinking, and your beliefs are absent of evidence, IT IS REPUGNANT Brother Deacon and dangerous to preach this particularly to Black people when you Brother Deacon KNOW the average Black person wherever disburse has a fear of god and take the Bible literally as the word god
You as a preacher Brother Deacon KNOW most Black folks has never read the bible THUS what you are doing as a BLACK preacher Deacon, you are tightening the chain that is already around the necks of my less informed Black brothers and sisters and
Only reason I THINK you doing this is for your own profit if not pleasure what kind of god / entity that would cause Black people to be beaten into the ground because this god want black people to keep his commandments listen to his voice and submit to his will Deacon this is call MALE EUROPEAN CHAUVINISM
Brother Deacon it is rather dangerous to chain link bible scripters to prove narrative I KNOW preachers are trained to do this, god cursed Black people??? Really

Tuesday, June 23rd 2015 at 4:02PM
Sylvainy R
Brother Deacon you are telling me this god YAH gave Black Hebrews a choice to choose him and Black Hebrews decided not to follow therefore your god YAH decided to curse, beat, enslave, Black Hebrews CHILDREN, WOMEN, MEN,
to this day and this is the same god YAH that the Christian say HE knows everything, what you are going to do before you do it before you think it he knows it

Deacon that means this YAH god YOU Deacon is preaching about set-up the Black Hebrews to dis-obey him in order to beat the living day light out of them, chained them up, savagely killed, Rape the CHILDREN THE WOMAN castrate the men , live in condition not even fit for an animal, Deacon is this the god of love and compassion???
Tuesday, June 23rd 2015 at 4:53PM
Sylvainy R
Brother Soso,

Let me take your questions and statements point by point because you need to understand that awareness of self is what I TEACH to who you are and to who’s you are.

YOUR WORDS: Brother Deacon: Faith DEMANDS the suspension you your critical thinking, and your beliefs are absent of evidence, IT IS REPUGNANT Brother Deacon and dangerous to preach this particularly to Black people when you Brother Deacon KNOW the average Black person wherever disburse has a fear of god and take the Bible literally as the word god

Brother Soso, The Faith that I TEACH is one of trust, Expectation, confidence, belief, conviction, optimism, hope and not hate of any kind because hate is not a tool of The Most High. YES my faith is getting stronger the more I understand myself in the relationship to YAH (GOD.) I find nothing wrong with accepting that there is a greater power then myself in the universe which I love, respect and fear. Brother Soso, once again you are letting your emotions get in your way of thinking. REPUGNANT, why is this? Is it because you believe in yourself, that you made it all by yourself, that there is nothing higher than yourself? What is dangerous is a person without the guidelines of faith, someone who have lost there faith, there will, to belong to something greater than themselves or one without YAH (GOD.) I have just described our Black Hebrew ancestors who chose to disobey the LAW of YAH.

YOUR WORDS: You as a preacher Brother Deacon KNOW most Black folks has never read the bible THUS what you are doing as a BLACK preacher Deacon, you are tightening the chain that is already around the necks of my less informed Black brothers and sisters.

I am not preaching or TEACHING the secrets of The Most High that was not there Thousands of years before we were born. What I am doing is making our people aware of the power they have by knowing who’s they are, unlike yourself who want to keep our people clueless to tap in to the very power, that is already ours by hearing the voice of YAH and to keep his commandments.

YOUR WORDS: Only reason I THINK you doing this is for your own profit if not pleasure what kind of god / entity that would cause Black people to be beaten into the ground because this god want black people to keep his commandments listen to his voice and submit to his will Deacon this is call MALE EUROPEAN CHAUVINISM

Brother Soso, please don’t ever let people know how limited you’re thinking is again. YOU SAY: The only reason you can think! YOU ARE NOT THINKING. Come on Brother Soso, I have faith that you are better than that. It is people that think like you is the reason why I take time to point out in The Holy Bible that with YAH (GOD) you have all you need and without him, you are not complete, you will be walking around with your pans hanging off your behind, looking lost.

YOUR WORDS: Brother Deacon it is rather dangerous to chain link bible scripters to prove narrative I KNOW preachers are trained to do this, god cursed Black people??? Really

Brother Soso, I see that you don’t respect God, when you use The Most High’s name and use a small “g” in describing the Creator and you want to tell me about the dangers of YAH”S (GOD’S) wrath. Can’t you see that is was through actions like this, which brought YAH (GOD) to anger? That kind of disrespect right there is the kind of things our Hebrew forefathers done. I know you don’t know any better or do you?

YOUR WORDS: Deacon that means this YAH god YOU Deacon is preaching about set-up the Black Hebrews to dis-obey him in order to beat the living day light out of them, chained them up, savagely killed, Rape the CHILDREN THE WOMAN castrate the men , live in condition not even fit for an animal, Deacon is this the god of love and compassion???

No Brother Soso, I know not of YAH who sets his people up to be chained them up, savagely killed, Rape the CHILDREN THE WOMAN castrate the men , live in condition not even fit for an animal.

Brother Soso, I know of a kind of YAH (GOD) who have shown this generation his power and love. We as his people are living better than any other generation in man’s history although we have more TEACHING to do but more us his people are learning about who we are and not something new.

I have asked you on a few occasions to prove me wrong or show me where I have preached HATE or about anything that I have shown you and bring your proof and so far, you have not done that, why? For that is the reason why you are here on this blog.

Are you a man of religious belief?

Tuesday, June 23rd 2015 at 11:01PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
I am standing by...


Wednesday, June 24th 2015 at 9:44AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.

Can Anyone Debunk What You Are About To See?

Wednesday, June 24th 2015 at 9:30PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon: your bible tells you in Hebrews 11:1King James Version Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, and the evidence of things not seen. This is your bible Deacon that is telling you this , either way you wish to totally twist it ,Deacon, Faith DEMANDS the suspension of your critical thinking Deacon and your beliefs are absent of evidence, Brother Deacon what you understand is the profit you gain in the name of this god YAH
Deacon my emotions are not involved in this, I KNOW I don’t believe, I know there is a force greater than myself so your point is mute. There could be no such entity as a god that will cause your so called Black Hebrews to be enslaved, beaten,
Black male member’s castrated, Black women and children raped, and you are telling me this is the word of god because these so called Black Hebrews disobey his will? Deacon it is repugnant to think that you are preaching faith, truth, hope, confidence, belief, conviction, and optimism, when you are saying that it’s because their ancestors disobey this god YAH that they were raped, mutilated, bound and chained, living in conditions less fit for an animal and this is the god that you say loves us and we should listen to his ways?
Brother Deacon: Yes I believe in me, I think for me and that my brother is what the great architect of the universe wants us all to do. Who are you Deacon to determine and to interpret what you think this god of your so called Hebrews says and means? I want Black people to think for themselves and not be shepherds as you Deacon, who thinks black people are sheep and we all know sheep are the dumbest animal on the planet.
Brother Deacon: My primary goal is to remove the chains that’s on the mind of black people my intention is for Black people to think for themselves not for preachers to interpret the bible and tell them what they think this god said Deacon: You cannot tell Black people who they are by telling them this god YAH caused them to be enslaved and savagely killed and at the same time

Brother Deacon: my limited thinking ??? Deacon again you are preaching to Black people, to HATE themselves when you Deacon tell them this god YAH of Deuteronomy 27, 28 is the reason they were enslave with iron around their necks savagely beaten and justifying it by telling them that their ancestors did not listen to this god YAH voice is preaching self hate and Deacon you still have not show me where in Deuteronomy 27, 28 it mentioned Black Hebrews and Black American being the decadence of Black Hebrews I am not interested in your interpretation of Deuteronomy 27, 28 I want you to show me where it state Black Hebrews and Black American being the decadence of Black Hebrews
I’m a free thinker I have no religious beliefs

Thursday, June 25th 2015 at 3:28AM
Sylvainy R
Sylvainy, they can't accept the obvious, that we have six senses: sight, sound, smell, touch, taste and mind. These require no faith, no proof. They are all we need.
Thursday, June 25th 2015 at 7:48AM
Steve Williams
Brother Soso,

I have asked you on a few occasions to prove me wrong or show me where I have preached HATE or about anything that I have shown you and bring your proof and so far, you have not done that, why? For that is the reason why you are here on this blog.

Since you are not a man of religious belief and you say that you are a free thinker, then tell me what people best fit the discription what was written some 1900 years before the Atlantic Slave Trade ever took place? I say that is was The Hebrews who was involved as slaves as discribe in Deuteronomy 28 for disobeying the law of YAH and those are the people we know today as Black Americans. What say you Brother Soso!!!





Thursday, June 25th 2015 at 8:38AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
We practice face daily when we make plans. We practice faith from the food we buy to be free from pesticides in poisons, to the water we drink, when we take a seat, we have faith that the chair don't break with us or our family members in it. Try crossing the streets in any major downtown city, now tell me about those six senses again.

Now back to the topic.


Thursday, June 25th 2015 at 1:20PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon : Again you are preaching to Black people who you know has a fear of this god (YAH) and a fear of this bible which they say is the word of this god (YAH) Now According to you Deuteronomy 27 28 refers to Black Hebrews, and Black American are the descendant from these so called Black Hebrews you said it Brother Deacon not I and I’m asking you to please show me anywhere in Deuteronomy 27 28 does it mentioned Black Hebrews or Black American,
Brother Deacon Again this god (YAH) whom the Christian say is INFINITE IN EVERYTHING, Deacon INFINITE and you are preaching about this god (YAH ) who put a curse on Black people that caused them to be enslave the men brutally beaten to death iron around their necks chains on their feet the woman and children savagely rape

BECAUSE they did not obey the voice of this god (YAH) and you are trying to TELL me this is not hatred for black people from this god YAH WHO IS allegedly INFINITE Deacon with this video you are preaching self-hate to black people for nowhere in Deuteronomy 27 28 does it ever mentioned Black Hebrews or Black Americans Deacon the one only ALMIGHTLY parent having complete power; omnipotent, COULD NOT, WILL NOT commit such a savagely cruel exceedingly brutal act against the human race this is manmade that’s why YOU Deacon and others like YOU can interpret this bible and the word of this god YAH with ease


Brother Deacon I have no idea who Deuteronomy 27 28 is referring too, What I do know is Deuteronomy 34:5-6 reads So Moses the servant of the LORD died there in the land of Moab, ACCORDING to the WORD of the LORD AND HE buried him in a valley in the land of Moab, over against Bethpeor: but no man knoweth of his sepulchre unto this day

Deacon I was not there but critical thinking tells me Moses could NOT WRITE where he died and where this god buried him so my limited thinking tells me the same person won wrote Deuteronomy 27 28 wrote Deuteronomy 34:5-6 THE QUESTION IS WHO


Thursday, June 25th 2015 at 1:34PM
Sylvainy R
Steve: I agree these 6 senses we have is indeed all what we need and no proof no faith no belief are required
Thursday, June 25th 2015 at 1:58PM
Sylvainy R
Brother Deacon: By seeing we see the busy traffic in any major downtown city we see the green yellow and red light so I can cross the street at the appropriate time , By hearing we hear the sound of the busy traffic and everything else around us by smelling we smell the sweet fragrance of the rose by touching we feel the touch of our love ones around us by tasting we enjoy the many different foods we eat and by our minds it tells us NOT to cross streets in any major downtown city when the light is RED we don’t need faith of this
Thursday, June 25th 2015 at 2:33PM
Sylvainy R
Brother Soso,

YOUR WORDS: Brother Deacon: By seeing we see the busy traffic in any major downtown city we see the green yellow and red light so I can cross the street at the appropriate time.

I see that you practice great faith when you cross the streets. I see people like you all of the time. Tell me something Brother Soso, when was the last time you seen a downtown traffic light hit anybody? When you are crossing these streets, you better be watching those cars, which you made no mention of, which is where your faith comes into play.

YOUR WORDS: By hearing we hear the sound of the busy traffic and everything else around us by smelling we smell the sweet fragrance of the rose by touching we feel the touch of our love ones around us by tasting we enjoy the many different foods we eat and by our minds it tells us NOT to cross streets in any major downtown city when the light is RED we don’t need faith of this

Now I can see using your ears to hear the traffic around you but you are far, far to busy smelling roses, playing and touching your love ones, eating food when crossing the streets. If that is not using FAITH, I don’t know what is. Maybe you can do that in Canada but down here in the major streets like New York, L.A., or Chicago, you better use what you have including faith, to cross these streets, my Brother Soso.

Saturday, June 27th 2015 at 6:01AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Soso,

YOUR WORDS: Brother Deacon: By seeing we see the busy traffic in any major downtown city we see the green yellow and red light so I can cross the street at the appropriate time.

I see that you practice great faith when you cross the streets. I see people like you all of the time. Tell me something Brother Soso, when was the last time you seen a downtown traffic light hit anybody? When you are crossing these streets, you better be watching those cars, which you made no mention of, which is where your faith comes into play.

YOUR WORDS: By hearing we hear the sound of the busy traffic and everything else around us by smelling we smell the sweet fragrance of the rose by touching we feel the touch of our love ones around us by tasting we enjoy the many different foods we eat and by our minds it tells us NOT to cross streets in any major downtown city when the light is RED we don’t need faith of this

Now I can see using your ears to hear the traffic around you but you are far, far to busy smelling roses, playing and touching your love ones, eating food when crossing the streets. If that is not using FAITH, I don’t know what is. Maybe you can do that in Canada but down here in the major streets like New York, L.A., or Chicago, you better use what you have including faith, to cross these streets, my Brother Soso.

Saturday, June 27th 2015 at 6:01AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon,

President Obama said that Dylann Roof was being used by God when he murdered nine people. And the people said, Amen! Why don't we let him go then so that God can use him some more? The answer Bother Deacon, is that our master sense organ, the brain, tells us that that kind of faith is foolishness.

Saturday, June 27th 2015 at 8:16AM
Steve Williams
Brother Steve,

YOUR WORDS: Why don't we let him go then so that God can use him some more? I think that Dylann Roof purpose in life has been fulfilled. That confederate flag, that symbol of hate is coming down and this would not happen if YAH'S plan is not in place for a time like this.


Saturday, June 27th 2015 at 9:33AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.

Can Anyone Debunk What You Are About To See?

Subject?

the selfProfessed 'whiteMan' steveAdam OFF SUBJECT comments to selfProfessed 'blackHebrewIsraelite' deacon..

"....Brother Deacon, President Obama said that Dylann Roof was being used by God when he murdered nine people.........and the people said, Amen!

Saturday, June 27th 2015 at 7:16AM
Steve Williams

Brother Steve, YOUR WORDS: Why don't we let him go then so that God can use him some more? I think that Dylann Roof purpose in life has been fulfilled.That confederate flag, that symbol of hate is coming down and this would not happen if YAH'S plan is not in place for a time like this....."

Saturday, June 27th 2015 at 8:33AM
Deacon Ron Gray

*********************************************************************

steveAdam; brother of Roof---- SINCE you OFF SUBJECT here and your brother deacon OKs--Amens

---- I believe that that 1861 Battle FLAG is NOT really the REASON roof KILLED ....

---- I believe roof KILLED for Racist 'whiteSupremacy' of slaverAmericana 1492-1864

***************************the rape, torture and KILLING of Africans by Racist 'whiteMen'

---- AME and the 'whiteFolks' attending-- Amen---because they are STILL the slaves of Racist 'whiteSupremacy'

Off course EVERYTHING that Happens to the CREATED, is ORDAINED from the Creator of Adaam(as) AlAzeez


Saturday, June 27th 2015 at 10:52AM
robert powell
Robert, you seem just as confused as President Obama.
Saturday, June 27th 2015 at 11:12AM
Steve Williams
This conversation would go well on this post http://blackinamerica.com/cgi-bin/blog.cgi...


Saturday, June 27th 2015 at 12:25PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Steve
Than is Exactly what I said and as much as it hurts me to say this if he is used by god then let him go
Saturday, June 27th 2015 at 12:48PM
Sylvainy R
Brother Deacon,

My point is there is a direct relation between the belief that God used Europeans to murder Africans, and the belief that God used a descendant of Europeans to murder 9 descendants of Africans.

Saturday, June 27th 2015 at 1:33PM
Steve Williams
Sylvainy it pains me to say so too. And further the family has done the Christian thing and forgiven him so again, why not let him go?

Saturday, June 27th 2015 at 1:36PM
Steve Williams
Is it too simple a thing to say that God is not an accessory to murder?
Saturday, June 27th 2015 at 1:39PM
Steve Williams
Brother Deacon: President Obama was being politically ASTUTE. We cannot have it both ways; the essence of my being goes out to the family and friends of the deceased, may the Great Architect of the Universe spare the family further pain may the deceased rest in peace at their permanent address:

Deacon: You KNOW my position when it comes to this god you keep talking about, I take no pleasure in this but this god YAH you keep talking about should have let his people know there’s an enemy among them in the house of worship, or is this still the curse / punishment of the god you mentioned in Deuteronomy 27 28

Deacon the confederate flag coming down does not correct or ease the pain and suffering of the family that is left behind or the kids that will grow up without fathers and mothers, Although burning that flag is correct we must ask ourselves the hard question, WILL IT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE IN THE HEARTS AND MINDS OF THOSE WHO ARE CONSERVATIVES???

Saturday, June 27th 2015 at 2:02PM
Sylvainy R
Steve: that is the problem that I have with these so-called Black Christians they truly believe and have faith in forgiveness in the hope of getting their reward in the afterlife as opposed to the here and now. As If someone miraculously died and came back and told them theirs reward awaiting them in the afterlife
Saturday, June 27th 2015 at 2:54PM
Sylvainy R
Brother Soso,

I see that you have dropped that intersection scenario, I don't blame you at all.


Saturday, June 27th 2015 at 11:30PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Soso,

What the world saw that having faith in YAH (GOD) that the grieving families can show mercy and forgiveness to a lost soul that murder their love ones.

Now, do you want to get on topic or not?



Saturday, June 27th 2015 at 11:48PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon: I am on topic when I ask you (Deacon: You KNOW my position when it comes to this god you keep talking about, I take no pleasure in this, but this god YAH you keep talking about should have let his people know there’s an enemy among them in the house of worship, or is this still the curse / punishment of the god YAH you mentioned in Deuteronomy 27 28 )???
Sunday, June 28th 2015 at 7:16AM
Sylvainy R
Brother Deacon,

If we forgive a debt there is no more a debt. I we forgive a crime there is no more a crime.

Sunday, June 28th 2015 at 7:27AM
Steve Williams
Brother Steve,

You are correct... When one forgives another, then that debt is no more but That admitted killer of 9 unarmed Bibly school worshipping Students now, comes under mans LAW and for that reason will not be set free. I am sure you understand that...




Sunday, June 28th 2015 at 11:02AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Soso,

I will admit that we will not find the words "BLACK HEBREWS" in Deuteronomy 27 or 28 and since I have already or established the fact that The original Hebrew Biblical was black, then I find no need to Reaffirming That FACT to you in this conversation, since you have not yet refuted that information.

Now in The Book of Deuteronomy was referring to the Hebrew people.

By the was Brother Soso, did you ever do the research to refute the information found in this video yet?

By the way, your opinion of how strong or position is, is not based on FACTS but your emotions.


Sunday, June 28th 2015 at 11:23AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
I agree Brother Deacon, that man will not be set free because I and most others do not forgive him. Even the family do not truly forgive him because none of them want him to go free either.


Sunday, June 28th 2015 at 11:26AM
Steve Williams
Brother Deacon,

It is enough that we do not seek vengeance, that we do not answer violence with violence. I am not a proponent of the death penalty, but in the interest of the common good this man must receive life imprisonment.

Sunday, June 28th 2015 at 11:34AM
Steve Williams
Brother Steve,

Let us not get into if the family really forgive this calculating monster thug for wanting to start a race riot by him is actions but faith in the belief in YAH (GOD) turned what was meant to cause evil, into something good for his people. By bring people from all races, both Black and White, both Hebrew and gentile, together under the banner to knock down these barriers of race in the country.

Unber the law of this land, for using the tools of death, then he shell get all that is coming to him under the LAW.

This man not once asked for forgiveness from any of the family members he killed, not one.

Sunday, June 28th 2015 at 1:33PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon,

Clementa Pinkney is dead and there is no good from that evil deed that exceeds if he were still alive.

Sunday, June 28th 2015 at 1:56PM
Steve Williams
Brother Steve,

Death will find all of us, it is what you have done with your life that matters.

Rev. Clementa Pinkney Touched the lives of my and constructive ways and in his death, I would say millions saw the massage that President Obama gave.



Sunday, June 28th 2015 at 2:32PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
To me Brother Deacon, that is fatalism not faith.
Sunday, June 28th 2015 at 3:52PM
Steve Williams
Brother Deacon: As a pastor you have sheep and Deacon Sheep are the dumbest animals on the planet, I understand a backhanded slap when I see it, Deacon try your psychological jargon (with my opinion on how strong or position is) on those who are less informed that my Brother does not work on me

Where did you Deacon establish the FACT that the Hebrew were Black People??? Brother Deacon: I grew up in the church were once a strong believer and strong Christian I was once where you are, I welcome Brother Deacon your strong stance on this or any topic therefore emotions has nothing to do with this discussion but good try
Once again

Brother Deacon: no one can refuted / debunk a belief or a faith base system your belief has no evidence and your faith is also absent of evidence no one Deacon can prove or disprove a belief / faith, Still Deacon what evidence do you have the Hebrews are Black people

Sunday, June 28th 2015 at 4:53PM
Sylvainy R
Brother Deacon: So because Rev Clementa Pinckney touched the lives of many he had to die? Are you serious?
Sunday, June 28th 2015 at 5:47PM
Sylvainy R
No Brother Soso,'

I have plainly said that what counts is what you do with your life while you are alive and not this rewording of yours that Rev. Clementa Pinckney touched the lives of many he had to die. I never said that at all. Here's my proof:

"Rev. Clementa Pinkney Touched the lives of my and constructive ways and in his death, I would say millions saw the massage that President Obama gave."

Now I did make to type "O" where "MY" is, should read many and where "MASSAGE" is should read message. Now with that said, there is no where in what I had to say, would make you come to the conclusion that Rev Clementa Pinckney touched the lives of many he had to die?

Now with these corrected type "O's" my statement reads as follows: "Rev. Clementa Pinkney Touched the lives of many and constructive ways and in his death, I would say millions saw the message that President Obama gave."

Thank you for keeping me on my toes but

Now if I am wrong and said that Rev Clementa Pinckney had to die, show it to me now!!!

Brother Soso, I enjoy the conversation but ARE YOU SERIOUS?




Sunday, June 28th 2015 at 7:08PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Steve,

Please explain what do you mean.


Sunday, June 28th 2015 at 7:13PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon,

What I mean is you believe in an omnipotent God who is also pure goodness, no evil in His nature whatsoever, yet this God at best allows evil or at worst actively inflicts it on His creation. You say that His ways are inscrutable yet you try to make sense of them anyway, such as the Israelites brought this thousands of years old curse on not just themselves but their descendants for countless generations, and because Rev. Pinkney had lived a good life for 41 years that God deemed it more important to have him murdered so we could hear President Obama's eulogy, take down a flag, and have another discussion on race. You have no faith in the brain and other sense organs that the Creator bestowed on you, only in a capricious God whom you tell us to fear. And even when you dutifully fear Him the world may still come crashing down on your head at any moment. I'm sorry to be so blunt Brother Deacon, but that to me is a fatalistic worldview.

I can offer you an alternative if you'd like to hear it.

Sunday, June 28th 2015 at 7:42PM
Steve Williams
Steve you said it better than I ever could
Sunday, June 28th 2015 at 8:16PM
Sylvainy R
Brother Soso,

I have asked you serval times not to just take my words for it but do the research for yourself but you still have not done the research but you feel safe in this trolling narrow-mined point of view when the evidence that I am talking about is right there in front of you.

YOU ASKED THIS QUESTION: “Where did you Deacon establish the FACT that the Hebrew were Black People???”

Moses was a Hebrew and the Levitical priests was talking to all Israel, his Hebrew in both Deuteronomy 27 - 28 from The Altar on Mount EBAL.

9 Then Moses and the Levitical priests said to all Israel, “Be silent, Israel, and listen! You have now become the people of the Lord your God. 10 Obey the Lord your God and follow his commands and decrees that I give you today.” Deuteronomy 27 9-10

Since this establish that Moses was talking to the Hebrew people, I will make the connection and establish that the Hebrew people are our ancestors.

What other people in the history of mankind that you know of who was done like this? 30 You will be pledged to be married to a woman, but another will take her and rape her. Don’t that sound like something that happen to our ancestors in America?

What other people in the history of mankind that you know of who was done like this? 32 Your sons and daughters will be given to another nation, and you will wear out your eyes watching for them day after day, powerless to lift a hand. Don’t that sound like something that happen to our ancestors in America?

What other people in the history of mankind that you know of who was done like this? 36 The Lord will drive you and the king you set over you to a nation unknown to you or your ancestors. There you will worship other gods, gods of wood and stone. Don’t that sound like something that happen to our ancestors in America?

What other people in the history of mankind that you know of who was done like this? 37 You will become a thing of horror, a byword and an object of ridicule among all the peoples where the Lord will drive you. Don’t that sound like something that happen to our ancestors in America?

What other people in the history of mankind that you know of who was done like this? 43 The foreigners who reside among you will rise above you higher and higher, but you will sink lower and lower. Don’t that sound like something that happen to our ancestors or to the Black American today in America?

What other people in the history of mankind that you know of who was done like this? 49 The Lord will bring a nation against you from far away, from the ends of the earth, like an eagle swooping down, a nation whose language you will not understand, 50 a fierce-looking nation without respect for the old or pity for the young. Don’t that sound like something that happen to our ancestors in America?

What other people in the history of mankind that you know of who was done like this? 52 They will lay siege to all the cities throughout your land until the high fortified walls in which you trust fall down. They will besiege all the cities throughout the land the Lord your God is giving you. This referring to Israel.

What other people in the history of mankind that you know of who was done like this? 64 Then the Lord will scatter you among all nations, from one end of the earth to the other. There you will worship other gods—gods of wood and stone, which neither you nor your ancestors have known. Don’t that sound like something that happen to our ancestors in America?

What other people in the history of mankind that you know of who was done like this? 68 The Lord will send you back in ships to Egypt on a journey I said you should never make again. There you will offer yourselves for sale to your enemies as male and female slaves, but no one will buy you. Don’t that sound like something that happen to our ancestors in America?

I have said continuously, without fail that this prophecy was to the Hebrew, our ancestors because they was stubborn and wanted to do what they wanted to do and by this action, kindle the raft of YAH.

Brother Soso, if you know of another people this happen too, then bring them forth and let’s talk.

Sunday, June 28th 2015 at 8:45PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Steve,

I welcome your point of view. YES! I believe in a omnipotent God who is also pure goodness that have given our people the gift to choose.

YOU SAY: You say that His ways are inscrutable yet you try to make sense of them anyway, such as the Israelites brought this thousands of years old curse on not just themselves but their descendants for countless generations.

Brother Steve, in this recent episode is just the beginning to lift the power of hate, bigotry and racism that flag represents and this generation is here to be a witness this awesome event. Rev. Pinkney did live a good life and his life was too short but the world may not have seen the power of forgiveness of these chain of events would have happen somewhere else instead in the church where the birth of civil rights began.

Brother Steve, please don’t assume that people who believe in YAH (GOD) have no faith in the brain and other sense organs that the Creator bestowed on you, only in a capricious God whom you tell us to fear. That my Brother keeps me from being that mass murderer or someone who would strap on a loaded vest and walk into a crowd of unsuspected people and pull the cord. In the belief in YAH (GOD) if he wants to use me to convey his commands and to keep his laws or to TEACH his will, then so shell it be.

Brother Steve you don’t have to apologize for speaking what is on your mind, I welcome this. Brother Steve as far as offering me an alternative, if you will please start that as a new blog, thanks.

Sunday, June 28th 2015 at 9:32PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon: You are saying because the bible said Moses was a Hebrew, Now YOU Deacon, are saying you will make the connection and establish that the Hebrew people are our ancestors Brother Deacon what evidence do you have of that other than your bible you have no proof no archeological evidence that this Moses ever existed
Monday, June 29th 2015 at 12:21AM
Sylvainy R
Brother Soso,

You have not said a thing about the living evidence of are existence that I made reference too from the prophecy found in Deuteronomy 27 -28.

History is my proof and I did ask you, if you know of another people that fits the description found in Deuteronomy 27-28 then let us talk about that.

My proof is found all throughout history and you will see that if you do the research.

Monday, June 29th 2015 at 7:35PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon:
The Catholic Bible has 73 books, while the Protestant Bible has only 66 books did the Catholic Church added 7 books? Or did the Protestant Church omit 7 books?? Brother Deacon there is over 700 contradictions in your bible starting with the book of Genesis to Revelation,

Your god YAH, who is omnipotent, whom they say Inspire men to write his words his laws in this book call the bible only to allow these men to contradict his words like really???, Brother Deacon: the almighty parent the G.A.O.T.U created us all, man on the other hand created slavery for his own profit and pleasure
In the words of

Desmond Tutu when the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said "Let us pray." We closed our eyes. When we opened them, we had the Bible and they had the land, I’ll add and the deed to our mind for the past 400 plus years
Brother Deacon: Again Deuteronomy 34:5-6 King James Version reads

5 So Moses the servant of the LORD died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the LORD. 6 And he buried him in a valley in the land of Moab, over against Bethpeor: but no man knoweth of his sepulchre unto this day, Deacon did Moses wrote where he died??? Or did your god YAH wrote where Moses died and where he god buried him Moses

Brother Deacon Your History evidence and living proof is limited to the bible that they say is the word of god and this book contradict itself and cannot be admitted as history of anything let alone a (God that is omnipotent) Brother Deacon emancipate yourself from mental slavery

Monday, June 29th 2015 at 9:52PM
Sylvainy R
Brother Soso,

I asked you a very simple question: If you have a people that best fits the description in Deuteronomy 27 -28 show them to me, Can you do that?


Monday, June 29th 2015 at 10:29PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon,

How are the young people responding to this message, that your religion is not the religion of the white man who enslaved their ancestors, but that their ancestors were enslaved by the black man's God?

Tuesday, June 30th 2015 at 7:12AM
Steve Williams
Brother Steve,

We have more work to do to show our youth according to The Holy Bible that they are the children of YAH (GOD.)


Tuesday, June 30th 2015 at 8:50AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
If anyone tells you they know the truth about who The Hebrew people are in The Holy Bible and cannot show or prove or can give a reasonable explanation on how they arrived to their conclusion, especially when it comes to saying that Christianity is a white man’s religion, That The Hebrew people, God’s chosen people, The characters and the Prophets Of The Old Testaments of the Bible was Caucasian’s, if they can’t do that, they need more studies, and those who follow in those ways also need more studies and thy are foolish by way of their indoctrination.

I am just interested in the truth, in saying that, I will be referring in the knowledge of The Creator by his true ancient name as “YAH” as we give Yah the praise as in “HALLELUYAH” The Most High. Some may say, that they are Black American’s and do not speak Hebrew but I say that YAH is the same Creator who created the heavens and the earth and his name never change and will not change just because you are Black Americans.

Tuesday, June 30th 2015 at 10:08AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon I answered your question on Thursday, June 25th 2015 at 12:34PM, when I said ( I have no idea who Deuteronomy 27 28 is referring too, What I do know is Deuteronomy 34:5-6 reads So Moses the servant of the LORD died there in the land of Moab, ACCORDING to the WORD of the LORD AND HE buried him in a valley in the land of Moab, over against Bethpeor: but no man knoweth of his sepulchre unto this day

Deacon I was not there but critical thinking tells me Moses could NOT WRITE where he died and where this god buried him so my limited thinking tells me the same person won wrote Deuteronomy 27 28 wrote Deuteronomy 34:5-6 THE QUESTION IS WHO )

Brother Deacon: You are trying your best to flip the script just in case you haven’t notice it’s not working’ again in a backhanded way you are trying to get me to debunk your video, beliefs and your faith with your (I asked you a very simple question: If you have a people that best fits the description in Deuteronomy 27 -28 show them to me, Can you do that?)

Brother Deacon: I am not oblivious to the pain Christians feel when they are challenge about their god, bible, beliefs and faith as mentioned before in this blog I’ve been where you are Brother Deacon emancipate yourself from mental slavery My brother your bible keeps you in perpetual darkness from the truth and here is an example
Brother Deacon: the Catholic Bible has 73 books; while the Protestant Bible has only 66 books,

Deacon did the Catholics add 7 more books that is the word of this god? Or did the Protestant remove 7 books that is the word of this god or perhaps the inspired men did??
Deacon again no one can debunk, prove or disprove your belief / faith system

Tuesday, June 30th 2015 at 12:30PM
Sylvainy R
Brother Deacon: Genesis 3:14, Reads 14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

Brother Deacon Snakes don’t eat dust and ever since they evolve they always crawl
Brother Deacon: Genesis 3:17-19 King James Version, Reads 17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy WIFE, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying,
Thou shalt not eat of it: CURSED is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life; Here Brother Deacon this god CURSED THE GROUND not the MAN Deacon but the GROUND

Brother Deacon Jeremiah 48:10 King James Version reads 10 CURSED be HE that doeth the work of the LORD deceitfully, and CURSED be HE THAT KEEPETH BACK HIS SWORD FROM BLOOD , What kind of a god is this Deacon???


Tuesday, June 30th 2015 at 3:24PM
Sylvainy R

Can Anyone Debunk What You Are About To See?

Subject?

on the selfProfessed 'blackHebrewIsraelite' deacon blaggette

the selfProfessed 'whiteMan' steveAdam OFF SUBJECT comments Disrespectfully to the USA President Baraaka Hussein Obama, Deacon and me with this comment..?

"......Robert, you seem just as confused as President Obama...."
Saturday, June 27th 2015 at 10:12AM
Steve Williams

*****************CONFUSED?

my comments were ---- I believe roof KILLED for Racist 'whiteSupremacy' of slaverAmericana 1492-1864

***************************the rape, torture and KILLING of Africans by Racist 'whiteMen'

Take your LYING, 'Brother of Deacon"; RACIST NONSENSE to the nearest phillyGhetto roosterCorner....

again----for the 6th time and 3500 Hits later --- Cartoons Cannot be rebunked--- they are Fantasy Falsehood.....




Tuesday, June 30th 2015 at 3:38PM
robert powell
Brother Soso,

Since you will not do any independent studies or research to find out who the Original Hebrews are and you still don't know who Deuteronomy 27 - 28 was referring to, the FACT that the prophesy was filled on YAH'S people, then my statement stands without refute.

In my Sunday, June 28th 2015 at 8:45PM post, asked some factual questions which you cared to ignore, so, my only hope for you is someday you might want to know the answer and do the research that we are in the original blood line of The People of The Bible.




Tuesday, June 30th 2015 at 8:03PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
That's right Robert, you are confused for the same reason that President Obama is. If Allah ordains everything then you are contesting, not submitting to, Allah's ordination of racism.

Tuesday, June 30th 2015 at 8:48PM
Steve Williams
Brother Deacon My independent research has liberated my mind from the biblical / religious indoctrination which was forced on Black people since birth,

Deacon my own mind is my church AGAIN in the words of Bishop Tutu When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said "Let us pray." We closed our eyes. When we opened them, we had the Bible and they had the land, and I’ll add the minds of Black Africans wherever disbursed

Brother Deacon; on one of your blogs YOU quoted Frederick Douglass (“Find out any people will quietly submit too and you have the measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them”)

Deacon you know when it comes to the bible and this god most Black people will quietly submit even in the face of injustice they have belief and faith they will get their reward on the other side as if someone died and came back to tell the reward is waiting for you

Brother Deacon again you are preaching self-hate to Black people when you preach to them from the pulpit that they are the Original Hebrews and because they did not listen to this god YAH of yours he cursed them enslave them caused them to be beaten death woman and children rape and at the same time Deacon you are telling them this god YAH loves them

I think the god that we have created and allowed to shape our culture through, essentially Christian theology is a pretty villainous creature. I think that one of the things that male patriarchal figure has done is, allowed under it is, his church, his wing, all kinds of corruptions and villainies to grow and fester.

In the name of that god YAH terrible wars have been waged, in the name of that god YAH terrible s*xism has been allowed to spread. In the name of that god YAH

There are children being born all across this world that don't have enough food to eat because that god YAH, at least his church, tells the mothers and fathers that they must procreate at all costs, and to prevent procreation with a c*ndom is in contravention with his laws.

NOW, I don't believe that such a god YAH exists. I think that god YAH You are talking and preaching about Deacon is the creation of MEN, by MEN, and for MEN. What has happened over the many centuries now, the better part of two thousand years is in fact, is that god YAH has been slowly and steadily accruing power. His church has been accruing powerand $$$$$$, and the MEN who RUN the church, AND THEY ARE ALL MEN, THEY are not about to give it up. BECAUSE if they give it up, they give up luxury, they give up comfort, they give up power they give up CONTROL
which god YAH Deacon will inflict such cruelty and suffering on his alleged chosen Black Hebrews of the Bible Deacon

Wednesday, July 1st 2015 at 8:16AM
Sylvainy R
Sylvainy, one only has to ask why this God is called 'He' and the light should come on.
Wednesday, July 1st 2015 at 10:19AM
Steve Williams
Brother Soso,

Since you don’t believe that YAH is the creator and when you are in YAH, then YAH is in you. Many who think that there is no YAH (GOD) have been found on the lowest in of their lives, suffering with low esteem, low respect for themselves and others, and a higher form of disrespect, mainly toward themselves. Many people have thought, I am in this, all for myself and damn what anybody says about it. I am sure that you would called that foolish thinking.

When it comes to what this blog is all about is to show our people that The Book of Deuteronomy was written around 1405 BC toward the end of Moses life and is in some ways Moses was 'handing on the LAW OF YAH ' to the next generation and the next and the next until it came down to us.

YOUR WORDS: Brother Deacon I answered your question on Thursday, June 25th 2015 at 12:34PM, when I said ( I have no idea who Deuteronomy 27 28 is referring too, What I do know is Deuteronomy 34:5-6 reads So Moses the servant of the LORD died there in the land of Moab, ACCORDING to the WORD of the LORD AND HE buried him in a valley in the land of Moab, over against Bethpeor: but no man knoweth of his sepulcher unto this day

Deacon I was not there but critical thinking tells me Moses could NOT WRITE where he died and where this god buried him so my limited thinking tells me the same person won wrote Deuteronomy 27 28 wrote Deuteronomy 34:5-6 THE QUESTION IS WHO )

My Brother, So you want to know WHO?

Please Brother Soso, don’t rely on something you call your, let me see, what your critical thinking and limited mind tells you. How can you rely on your critical thinking, when you have not done the research to base your opinion on? Don’t you ever tell nobody that you have done any critical thinking or research on that question again because the answer to your question is too easy to find.

Brother Soso, it was Joshua who completed the book soon after with an account of Moses' death, so, let us put that question to rest and put this so-called critical thinking in question because if this is a sample of your independent research has liberated your mind from the biblical / religious indoctrination then your journey to enlightenment to be truly independent is incomplete.

Brother Soso, Thank You for sharing what you think which in my opinion was an honorable thing to do and I too believe that you have that right, that I have put my life on the line so, that you can exercise that right.

Thank you for your input.

Wednesday, July 1st 2015 at 10:43AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon YOU said “(The Book of Deuteronomy was written around 1405 BC toward the end of Moses life and is in some ways Moses was 'handing on the LAW OF YAH ' to the next generation and the next and the next until it came down to us)”.

The character of Moses, as stated in the Bible, is the most horrid that can be imagined. If those accounts be true, he was the wretch that first began and carried on wars on the score or on the pretence of religion; and under that mask, or that infatuation, committed the most unexampled atrocities that are to be found in the history of any nation. Of which I will state only one instance:

When the Jewish army returned from one of their plundering and murdering excursions, the account goes on as follows (Numbers 31. 13): 'And Moses, and Eleazar the priest, and all the princes of the congregation, went forth to meet them without the camp; and Moses was wroth with the officers of the host, with the captains over thousands, and captains over hundreds, which came from the battle; and Moses said unto them,

Have ye saved all the women alive?' behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the Lord in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the Lord. Now therefore, 'kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known a man by lying with him; but all the women- children that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for Yourselves.'

Among the detestable villains that in any period of the world have disgraced the name of man, it is impossible to find a greater than Moses, if this account be true. Here is an order to butcher the boys, to massacre the mothers, and debauch the daughters.

Let any mother put herself in the situation of those mothers, one child murdered, another destined to violation, and herself in the hands of an executioner: let any daughter put herself in the situation of those daughters, destined as a prey to the murderers of a mother and a brother, and what will be their feelings?

In short, the matters contained in this chapter, as well as in many other parts of the Bible, are too horrid for humanity to read, or for decency to hear.

Brother Deacon according to you in some ways Moses was 'handing on the LAW OF YAH ' to the next generation and the next and the next until it came down to us and Joshua who completed the book soon after with an account of Moses' death is the reason this god is causing GENOCIDE to be committed against his so-call chosen

Black Hebrews Deacon the most dangerous weapon in the hands of the oppressor in the mind of the oppress Deacon sorry to be so blunt but you and others like you are perpetrating MENTAL GENOCIDE against Black people particular those who are less informed

Wednesday, July 1st 2015 at 11:51AM
Sylvainy R

Can Anyone Debunk What You Are About To See?

Subject?

on the selfProfessed 'blackHebrewIsraelite' deacon blaggette

the selfProfessed 'whiteMan' steveAdam OFF SUBJECT comments Disrespectfully to the USA President Baraaka Hussein Obama, Deacon and me with this comment..?

"......That's right Robert, you are confused for the same reason that President Obama is. If Allah ordains everything then you are contesting, not submitting to, Allah's ordination of racism...."

Tuesday, June 30th 2015 at 8:48PM
Steve Williams

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Lying Misconception steve----Man has free will

--- racismCOLORISM----FROM euorpeanPaganChristianity was an ACT of DISBELIEF of Monotheism

--- racismCOLORISM---- was an ACT like Shaitans/Iblees act of not SUBMITTING to Adaam(as)

ps

There is NOTHING wrong for President Baraaka Hussein Obama is speaking to the secular American Citizens in any way he wants---He was elected by them and he is The BEST of American Citizens..........

you steveAdam

---at BIA, an African American Family site seem to be disrespectful as Deacon is learning with your Debunking


Wednesday, July 1st 2015 at 1:45PM
robert powell
If Allah ordains everything there is no free will. The best you can do Robert is to do as the President and somehow call it 'good'. And that ain't saying much.

Wednesday, July 1st 2015 at 3:27PM
Steve Williams
Brother Soso,

Do you really believe that the passage you quoted is about the character of Moses? I will not get into those personal slurs, smears, personal affronts and that doom and gloom of your misdirected comments.

Now what you just did here was to come in the middle of a conversation without the benefit of the direction of what the conversation was about but you just ran off with it, claiming that this must be the character of Moses.

Brother Soso, this is how this passage begins: Numbers 31 And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying, 2 Avenge the children of Israel of the Midianites: afterward shalt thou be gathered unto thy people. 3 And Moses spake unto the people, saying, Arm some of yourselves unto the war, and let them go against the Midianites, and avenge the Lord of Midian. 4 Of every tribe a thousand, throughout all the tribes of Israel, shall ye send to the war. 5 So there were delivered out of the thousands of Israel, a thousand of every tribe, twelve thousand armed for war. 6 And Moses sent them to the war, a thousand of every tribe, them and Phinehas the son of Eleazar the priest, to the war, with the holy instruments, and the trumpets to blow in his hand.

All who, without commission from YAH (God), dare to execute private revenge, and who, from ambition, covetousness, or resentment, wage war and desolate kingdoms, must one day answer for it. But if God, instead of sending an earthquake, a pestilence, or a famine, be pleased to authorize and command any people to avenge his cause, such a commission surely is just and right. The Israelites could show such a commission, though no persons now can do so. Their wars were begun and carried on expressly by Divine direction, and they were enabled to conquer by miracles. Unless it can be proved that the wicked Canaanites did not deserve their doom, objectors only prove their dislike to God, and their love to his enemies. Man makes light of the evil of sin, but YAH (God) abhors it. This explains the terrible executions of the nations which had filled the measure of their sins.

The sword of war should spare women and children; but the sword of justice should know no distinction, but that of guilty or not guilty. This war was the execution of a righteous sentence upon a guilty nation, in which the women were the worst criminals. The female children were spared, who, being brought up among the Israelites, would not tempt them to idolatry. The whole history shows the hatefulness of sin, and the guilt of tempting others; it teaches us to avoid all occasions of evil, and to give no quarter to inward lusts. The women and children were not kept for sinful purposes, but for slaves, a custom everywhere practiced in former times, as to captives. In the course of providence, when famine and plagues visit a nation for sin, children suffer in the common calamity. In this case parents are punished in their children; and for children dying before actual sin, full provision is made as to their eternal happiness, by the mercy of YAH (God) in Christ.

The success of the Israelites had been very remarkable, so small a company overcoming such multitudes, but it was still more wonderful that not one was slain or missing. They presented the gold they found among the spoils, as an offering to the Lord. Thus they confessed, that instead of claiming a reward for their service, they needed forgiveness of much that had been amiss, and desired to be thankful for the preservation of their lives, which might justly have been taken away.

Brother Soso, this is far from that misdirection of Moses character that you tried to portray as something creditable to the character of Moses.

Now can we get back on topic?
Wednesday, July 1st 2015 at 10:36PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.

Brother Deacon: My misdirected comments??? Deacon the passage I quoted you Numbers 31:13-18King James Version is about the character of this Moses here’s the link https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?sear...
Deacon these words are in your bible those are NOT my words And again Brother Deacon I am on topic

Thursday, July 2nd 2015 at 2:44PM
Sylvainy R
Brother Soso,

I am very glad that you are beginning to use the tools of a online Bible source to educate yourself. Now, go to the beginning of the scripture that you so eloquently quoted, you will find that YAH told Moses what to tell the Hebrew Israelite how to take revenge for the injustice that was committed on his people without losing a soldier in the battle. Also you will find that I gave a accurate summation of the entire scripture of The Book of Numbers 31 which you only took a part of.

In short, Numbers 31 is tell us as believers, that it is better for us to be with YAH (GOD) then to be without YAH or aginst YAH.



Thursday, July 2nd 2015 at 6:43PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon: You are trying really hard, please let me know when you want me to can send a ladder down for you to climb out of the hole you keep digging for yourself, Brother Deacon YOU said (YAH told Moses what to tell the Hebrew Israelite how to take revenge for the injustice that was committed on his people)
Deacon then explain to me why isn’t this god YAH telling someone such as yourself else what to tell his chosen Black Hebrews living in America AKA

Black Americans the decadence of Black Hebrews how to take revenge for the injustice that is being committed on his chosen Black Hebrews / Black Americans people please explain this to me
Brother Deacon: god YAH told his Moses in Numbers 31: 17-18 King James Version

17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. 18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves Brother Deacon, it’s in front of you, Deacon I can start from the beginning the middle it matters not this is what your bible say and you are saying your god YAH told Moses to do to commit this hideous act


Thursday, July 2nd 2015 at 9:13PM
Sylvainy R
Brother Soso,

I respect you but you are all over the place now. What happen to your point of Moses character of the most horrid that can be imagined? I see that once I highlighted out some key points about The Book of Numbers 31 to be exact, you found out that Moses was following YAH’s lead. That spin, you dramatically conjured up, did not fit anywhere in the Book of Numbers.

Now, you have dropped all that to ask me to explain to me why isn’t this god YAH telling someone such as yourself else what to tell his chosen Black Hebrews living in America AKA?

Brother Soso, YAH’s plan is already in motion but you refuse to see it. The Hebrew today is living longer then our ancestors that was involved in the Atlantic Slave Trade, we live better, healthier, more educated, own more land, our families are stronger because we maintain that connection with The Most High laws and keep his commandments. When he comes back, YAH will come back looking for his people.

YOUR WORDS: Black Americans the decadence of Black Hebrews how to take revenge for the injustice that is being committed on his chosen Black Hebrews / Black Americans people please explain this to me
Brother Deacon: god YAH told his Moses in Numbers 31: 17-18 King James Version

Brother Soso, we was a nation then and now we are scattered throughout the earth. Now when YAH comes back, he will call us home again.

YOUR WORDS: 17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. 18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves Brother Deacon, it’s in front of you, Deacon I can start from the beginning the middle it matters not this is what your bible say and you are saying your god YAH told Moses to do to commit this hideous act

Isn’t it best to start from the beginning of any story? It do make a difference Brother Soso, I don’t know where you get that mess from, it don’t matter but It matters to me.
This Brakes down Numbers 31: 17-18 KJV

The sword of war should spare women and children; but the sword of justice should know no distinction, but that of guilty or not guilty. This war was the execution of a righteous sentence upon a guilty nation, in which the women were the worst criminals. The female children were spared, who, being brought up among the Israelites, would not tempt them to idolatry. The whole history shows the hatefulness of sin, and the guilt of tempting others; it teaches us to avoid all occasions of evil, and to give no quarter to inward lusts. The women and children were not kept for sinful purposes, but for slaves, a custom everywhere practiced in former times, as to captives. In the course of providence, when famine and plagues visit a nation for sin, children suffer in the common calamity. In this case parents are punished in their children; and for children dying before actual sin, full provision is made as to their eternal happiness, by the mercy of YAH (God) in Christ.

Thursday, July 2nd 2015 at 11:28PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
This god Yah is a god of war and Moses was his General.
Friday, July 3rd 2015 at 9:26AM
Steve Williams
I wonder why was that?


Friday, July 3rd 2015 at 9:34AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Lowercase god because that god is not the Creator.
Friday, July 3rd 2015 at 9:35AM
Steve Williams
Brother Deacon, the Creator creates, it's the Destroyer that destroys. Destruction is the work of the Devil.
Friday, July 3rd 2015 at 9:49AM
Steve Williams
God as the Bible describes 'Him' is schizophrenic.
Friday, July 3rd 2015 at 9:51AM
Steve Williams
Who is HIM?


Friday, July 3rd 2015 at 10:00AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Are you saying God according to The Holy Bible is schizophrenic?



Friday, July 3rd 2015 at 10:10AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon, I mean that God in the Bible is described as male. War is traditionally a male occupation and the gods of war are always male. I myself don't consider God to be schizophrenic but that is how He is portrayed in the Bible, sometimes blessing and sometimes cursing. In the Bible we never know quite what to expect of Him.
Friday, July 3rd 2015 at 10:28AM
Steve Williams
Brother Steve,

YAH did say to the Hebrews, his people, that he would bless those who would bless you and curse them that would curse you.

Did you always know what your father would do when you did something he told you not to do? Your father was probably slow to anger but when his got pissed at you, you knew that you was in trouble but yet you knew that your father still loved you. Once you started to hear your father and keep what you father told you to do, your relationship with your father was Beautiful.

Now what do you think what would happen if you did not follow your fathers rule? What do you think would happen?




Friday, July 3rd 2015 at 10:50AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon: I am sticking to the point you can try to down play the fact that Numbers 31:13-18 KJV state to kill every WOMAN that hath known a man by lying with him but all the WOMAN-CHILDREN that have NOT known a man by lying with him keep them alive for yourself, Brother Deacon, Syvainy did not say this your bible, The first five books of the bible which they say which is attributed to Moses is nothing but genocide against humanity

Brother Deacon: You are funny when you say (The sword of justice should know distinction) Deacon Black people in America for the past 400 years are looking for justice, so tell me does that sword of justice also apply to African American who are according to you the decadence the so-call Black Hebrews
Deacon with all due respect I see you and many others like can justify genocide against humanity because your bible tells you some god Okayed it

(They presented the gold they found among the spoils as an offering to the lord) really Deacon??
Brother Deacon I did not misdirect the character of this Moses I simple state what your bible and according to them your god said

Brother Deacon: Again I was once where you are today I can throw the bible in the garbage and feel no pain, because no omnipotent entity could cause to write in his name or caused such injustice to be done just because some people did not listen
Brother Deacon this is European male chauvinism at work NO god could do this or cause this

Friday, July 3rd 2015 at 1:43PM
Sylvainy R
Brother Deacon,

God is not human to have the emotion of anger. And when we say God loves it isn't the human emotion of love but rather an expression of Goodness. Evil doesn't exist because God allows it, Goodness is constantly at odds with Evil. God and Satan exist side by side. We humans choose Good or we choose Evil. If we choose Good our karma brings us more good, in this life and the next. And if we choose Evil then evil is turned on us, in this life and the next.

Friday, July 3rd 2015 at 2:36PM
Steve Williams
That is why you are blessed Brother Deacon, for your good deeds, not your belief.
Friday, July 3rd 2015 at 2:44PM
Steve Williams
Brother Deacon the spanking or punishment you get from your dad because you did something wrong when you were a little kid does not compare to the hideous act and genocide this god caused to be done, the raping of

woman and children, enslaving his chosen so-call Black Hebrew people, causing them to be chained iron around their necks beaten to death you Deacon are comparing the act of this god to the spanking a kid get from his dad
Brother Deacon you are justifying these hideous crimes by comparison this is called religious fanatic wake up Deacon wake up

Friday, July 3rd 2015 at 3:51PM
Sylvainy R
Brother Soso,

There is nowhere in the scripture that you quoted said anything about any raping or genocide. Brother Soso,, are you still talking about The Book of Numbers or have you ran back to talking about Deuteronomy 28?

Brother Soso, There was a choice that was made to hear the voice of YAH and receive the goodness of all blessings but somehow we wanted to do whatever we wanted to do and that was against The Laws of YAH and the out come was the prophecy of 400 years of slavery, just like you said.

Now this 400 year period is over and you know the story to hear of voice of YAH and keep his commandments and not adhere, then you have not learned a thing of are ancestors plight in history and you no better then the Hebrews who turned there backs to Yah.

Brother Soso, I am not trying to persuade you to believe in what I say about my beliefs in the power of YAH but if you can walk around and see all of the things that is here on this planet that is not man made and think that all this was not created by The Most High, then I think that you have to reexamine that thought.

If there is no Higher Power that created the universe, then I have been wasting my time but if it is a higher power and I hear his voice and keep is commandments, then I have saved my soul. That decision is something that every man and woman has to make.

Never once will I ever tell you to wake up to what to believe or not to believe, that is not your call for you to make for me especially when I am not causing any harm to anyone else or braking the law, Do you here me. The purpose of discussion and dialog is to share thought and information, which I will always encourage.




Friday, July 3rd 2015 at 5:08PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon: Deuteronomy 22:28-29King James Version “is talking about (RAPE)
28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
29 Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.

Brother Deacon: Please note Pentateuch is alleged to be written by Moses, so for you to say there is nowhere in the scripture that says anything about rape and genocide is disingenuous Deacon: Deuteronomy 22:28-29King James Version “is talking about (RAPE) open your mind Deacon no god YAH could be so inhumane to cause these things to be done to another human being

Brother Deacon the first five books of the bible is ascribe to Moses and rape is mentioned open your eyes Deacon open your eyes

Saturday, July 4th 2015 at 8:17PM
Sylvainy R
Brother Soso, my statement was referring to the scripture “THAT YOU HAVE QUOTED,” in The Book of Numbers 31 that you said that you are sticking too. OK, that is your choice after reading my proof. Now here you come with something that I never said to attempt to prove a point.

YOUR WORDS: Brother Deacon: Please note Pentateuch is alleged to be written by Moses, so for you to say there is nowhere in the scripture that says anything about rape and genocide is disingenuous

Brother Soso, you don’t have to resort to deceitful tactics to make a point, now let us focus on Deuteronomy 22:28-29 King James Version

28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;

29 Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.

Brother Soso, These laws relate to the seventh commandment, laying a restraint by laying a penalty upon those fleshly lusts which war against the soul. If a damsel not betrothed were thus abused by violence, he that abused her should be fined, the father should have the fine, and, if he and the damsel did consent, he should be bound to marry her, and never to divorce her, how much soever she was below him, and how unpleasing soever she might afterwards be to him, as Tamar was to Amnon after he had forced her, Deut. 22:28, 29. This was to deter men from such vicious practices, which it is a shame that we are necessitated to read and write of.

This scripture speaks on a damsel or woman not betrothed were thus abused by violence. Take a look at the word betrothed. Betrothal (also called espousal) is a formal state of engagement to be married.

Brother Soso, in short, there is no mention of force in these scriptures that you have quoted. It makes no mention of force or RAPE here. WOW! You really have a thing about Black Hebrews of The Holy Bible or is it just about Black Moses?




Saturday, July 4th 2015 at 11:06PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon,

In Luke 21 Jesus said the prophesy of Deuteronomy 28:64 would be fulfilled at the fall of Jerusalem.

24 And they will fall by the edge of the sword and be led captive into all the nations; and Jerusalem will be trampled on by the nations until the appointed times of the nations are fulfilled.

Sunday, July 5th 2015 at 8:41AM
Steve Williams
Brother Deacon which version of the bible do you want ??? RAPE is rape no matter what name you want to call it it’s RAPE
Deuteronomy 22:28-29New International Version
28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels[a] of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives

Deuteronomy 22:28-29New Revised Standard Version
28 If a man meets a virgin who is not engaged, and seizes her and lies with her, and they are caught in the act, 29 the man who lay with her shall give fifty shekels of silver to the young woman’s father, and she shall become his wife. Because he violated her he shall not be permitted to divorce her as long as he lives.

Deuteronomy 22:28-29New English Translation
28 Suppose a man comes across a virgin who is not engaged and overpowers and rapes her and they are discovered. 29 The man who has raped her must pay her father fifty shekels of silver and she must become his wife because he has violated her; he may never divorce her as long as he lives

Deuteronomy 22:28-29New King James Version
28 “If a man finds a young woman who is a virgin, who is not betrothed, and he seizes her and lies with her, and they are found out, 29 then the man who lay with her shall give to the young woman’s father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife because he has humbled her; he shall not be permitted to divorce her all his days

Sunday, July 5th 2015 at 2:53PM
Sylvainy R
Brother Deacon
Judges 21:10-24King James Version 10 And the congregation sent thither twelve thousand men of the valiantest, and commanded them, saying, Go and smite the inhabitants of Jabeshgilead with the edge of the sword, with the women and the children.
11 And this is the thing that ye shall do, Ye shall utterly destroy every male, and every woman that hath lain by man.
12 And they found among the inhabitants of Jabeshgilead four hundred young virgins, that had known no man by lying with any male: and they brought them unto the camp to Shiloh, which is in the land of Canaan
Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)
They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – died in the battle. They also killed

Balaam son of Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho.

Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. "Why have you let all the women live?" he demanded.

"These are the very ones who followed Balaam's advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves. Clearly Moses and God approves of rape of virgins.

Deuteronomy 20:10-14
10 When thou comest nigh unto a city to fight against it, then proclaim peace unto it.
11 And it shall be, if it make thee answer of peace, and open unto thee, then it shall be, that all the people that is found therein shall be tributaries unto thee, and they shall serve thee.
12 And if it will make no peace with thee, but will make war against thee, then thou shalt besiege it:
13 And when the LORD thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword:
14 But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which the LORD thy God hath given thee.

Brother Deacon this is taken women by force and that Constitute RAPE no matter what name you give it it's rape
Sunday, July 5th 2015 at 3:09PM
Sylvainy R
Brother Deacon: What do you call this
2 Samuel 12:11-14King James Version (KJV)

11 Thus saith the Lord, Behold, I will raise up evil against thee out of thine own house, and I will take thy wives before thine eyes, and give them unto thy neighbour, and he shall lie with thy wives in the sight of this sun.

12 For thou didst it secretly: but I will do this thing before all Israel, and before the sun.

13 And David said unto Nathan, I have sinned against the Lord. And Nathan said unto David, The Lord also hath put away thy sin; thou shalt not die.

14 Howbeit, because by this deed thou hast given great occasion to the enemies of the Lord to blaspheme, the child also that is born unto thee shall surely die

Sunday, July 5th 2015 at 3:15PM
Sylvainy R
Brother Soso,

In the times of old, just like in today's times, there have been some fool that sees a young woman and wants to force himself on her is a weak man. In the scripture you quoted in the book of Deuteronomy, are LAWS against such of an act, the act of Rape is not sanctioned by a YAH.


Sunday, July 5th 2015 at 4:01PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon
If the bible is the word of god and YOU said RAPE is not sancition by this god YAH then WHO sanctioned THIS CAN YOU please explain this
Deuteronomy 22:28-29New International Version
28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels[a] of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives
Sunday, July 5th 2015 at 4:13PM
Sylvainy R
Brother Deacon
Who sanctioned this 2 Samuel 12:11-14King James Version (KJV
11 Thus saith the Lord, Behold, I will raise up evil against thee out of thine own house, and I will take thy wives before thine eyes, and give them unto thy neighbour, and he shall lie with thy wives in the sight of this sun.

12 For thou didst it secretly: but I will do this thing before all Israel, and before the sun.

13 And David said unto Nathan, I have sinned against the Lord. And Nathan said unto David, The Lord also hath put away thy sin; thou shalt not die.

14 Howbeit, because by this deed thou hast given great occasion to the enemies of the Lord to blaspheme, the child also that is born unto thee shall surely die
Sunday, July 5th 2015 at 4:15PM
Sylvainy R
In Deuteronomy 22 these are Laws aginst such an act. These Laws was given to Moses by YAH.
Sunday, July 5th 2015 at 4:51PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon
Who sanctioned this 2 Samuel 12:11-14King James Version (KJV
11 Thus saith the Lord, Behold, I will raise up evil against thee out of thine own house, and I will take thy wives before thine eyes, and give them unto thy neighbour, and he shall lie with thy wives in the sight of this sun.

12 For thou didst it secretly: but I will do this thing before all Israel, and before the sun.

13 And David said unto Nathan, I have sinned against the Lord. And Nathan said unto David, The Lord also hath put away thy sin; thou shalt not die.

14 Howbeit, because by this deed thou hast given great occasion to the enemies of the Lord to blaspheme, the child also that is born unto thee shall surely die

Sunday, July 5th 2015 at 4:57PM
Sylvainy R
Brother Deacon Please explain This
Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB)

"When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive's garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion.

Sunday, July 5th 2015 at 5:49PM
Sylvainy R
Brother Soso,

The scripture that you quoted was a parable from Nathan which a friend of King David who lusted another reminded King David of the great things YAH had done and designed for him, anointing him to be king, and preserving him to the kingdom. See how liberal YAH is in his gifts; we are not straitened in him. Where he has given much, yet he gives more. And God’s bounty to us is a great aggravation of our discontent and desire of forbidden fruit. It is ungrateful to covet what God has prohibited, while we have liberty to pray for what God has promised, and that is enough. Now since David’s adultery with Bath-sheba, which he knew that Bath-sheba had a man, David ordered her husband Uriah to the front lines of battle, once he was killed by the sword, King David married Bath-sheba which is likewise twice mentioned, because he thought there was no harm in that. David had many women but his greatest sin was to covered the wife of the neighbor’s.

(2 Sam. 12:9): Thou hast taken his wife to be thy wife, and again, 2 Sam. 12:10. To marry her whom he had before defiled, and whose husband he had slain, was an affront upon the ordinance of marriage, making that not only to palliate, but in a manner to consecrate, such villanies. In all this he despised the word of the Lord (so it is in the Hebrew), not only his commandment in general which forbade such things, but the particular word of promise which God had, by Nathan, sent to him some time before, that he would build him a house. If he had had a due value and veneration for this sacred promise, he would not thus have polluted his house with lust and blood.

Brother Soso, this is King David sin, Because thou hast despised me (YAH). Note, Those who despise the word and law of YAH (GOD) despise YAH himself and shall be lightly esteemed. It is particularly threatened, [1.] That his children should be his grief: I will raise up evil against thee out of thy own house. Sin brings trouble into a family, and one sin is often made the punishment of another. [2.] That his wives should be his shame, that by an unparalleled piece of villany they should be publicly debauched before all Israel, 2 Sam. 12:11, 12.
It He that defiled his neighbour’s wife should have his own defiled, for thus that sin used to be punished, as appears by Job’s imprecation, Job 31:10; Then let my wife grind unto another, and that threatening, Hos. 4:14. The sin was secret, and industriously concealed, but the punishment should be open, and industriously proclaimed, to the shame of David, whose sin in the matter of Uriah, though committed many years before, would then be called to mind and commonly talked of upon that occasion. As face answers to face in a glass, so does the punishment often answer to the sin; here is blood for blood and uncleanness for uncleanness. And thus God would show how much he hates sin, even in his own people, and that, wherever he find it, he will not let it go unpunished.

His pardon declared, upon this penitent confession, but with a proviso. When David said I have sinned, and Nathan perceived that he was a true penitent,

(1.) He did, in God’s name, assure him that his sin was forgiven: “The Lord also has put away thy sin out of the sight of his avenging eye; thou shalt not die,” that is, “not die eternally, nor be for ever put away from God, as thou wouldest have been if he had not put away the sin.” The obligation to punishment is hereby cancelled and vacated. He shall not come into condemnation: that is the nature of forgiveness. “Thy iniquity shall not be thy everlasting ruin. The sword shall not depart from thy house, but, [1.] It shall not cut thee off, thou shalt come to thy grave in peace.” David deserved to die as an adulterer and murderer, but God would not cut him off as he might justly have done. [2.] “Though thou shalt all thy days be chastened of the Lord, yet thou shalt not be condemned with the world.” See how ready God is to forgive sin. To this instance, perhaps, David refers, Ps. 32:5; I said, I will confess, and thou forgavest. Let not great sinners despair of finding mercy with God if they truly repent; for who is a God like unto him, pardoning iniquity?


Sunday, July 5th 2015 at 11:49PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Soso,

I see that you want to talk about anything but the video you said you seen. With that said, I will attempt to shad some light on this scripture.

Deuteronomy 21:10-14 By this law a soldier is allowed to marry his captive if he pleased. For the hardness of their hearts Moses gave them this permission, lest, if they had not had liberty given them to marry such, they should have taken liberty to defile themselves with them, and by such wickedness the camp would have been troubled. The man is supposed to have a wife already, and to take this wife for a secondary wife, as the Hebrews called them. This indulgence of men’s inordinate desires, in which their hearts walked after their eyes, is by no means agreeable to the law of Christ, which therefore in this respect, among others, far exceeds in glory the law of Moses. The gospel permits not him that has one wife to take another, for from the beginning it was not so. The gospel forbids looking upon a woman, though a beautiful one, to lust after her, and commands the mortifying and denying of all irregular desires, though it be as uneasy as the cutting off of a right hand; so much does our holy religion, more than that of the Hebrew Jews , advance the honour and support the dominion of the soul over the body, the spirit over the flesh, consonant to the glorious discovery it makes of life and immortality, and the better hope.

I. That they should not abuse themselves by doing it too hastily, though the captive was ever so desirable: “If thou wouldest have her to thy wife (Deut. 21:10, 11), it is true thou needest not ask her parents’ consent, for she is thy captive, and is at thy disposal. But, 1. Thou shalt have no familiar intercourse till thou hast married her.” This allowance was designed to gratify, not a filthy brutish lust, in the heat and fury of its rebellion against reason and virtue, but an honourable and generous affection to a comely and amiable person, though in distress; therefore he may make her his wife if he will, but he must not deal with her as with a harlot. 2. “Thou shalt not marry her of a sudden, but keep her a full month in thy house,” Deut. 21:12, 13. This he must do either, (1.) That he may try to take his affection off from her; for he must know that, though in marrying her he does not do ill (so the law then stood), yet in letting her alone he does much better. Let her therefore shave her head, that he might not be enamoured with her locks, and let her nails grow (so the margin reads it), to spoil the beauty of her hand. Quisquid amas cupias non placuisse nimis—We should moderate our affection for those things which we are tempted to love inordinately. Or rather, (2.) This was done in token of her renouncing idolatry, and becoming a proselyte to the Jewish religion. The shaving of her head, the paring of her nails, and the changing of her apparel, signified her putting off her former conversation, which was corrupt in her ignorance, that she might become a new creature. She must remain in his house to be taught the good knowledge of the Lord and the worship of him: and the Jews say that if she refused, and continued obstinate in idolatry, he must not marry her. Note, The professors of religion must not be unequally yoked with unbelievers, 2 Cor. 6:14.

II. That they should not abuse the poor captive. 1. She must have time to bewail her father and mother, from whom she was separated, and without whose consent and blessing she is now likely to be married, and perhaps to a common soldier of Israel, though in her country ever so nobly born and bred. To force a marriage till these sorrows were digested, and in some measure got over, and she was better reconciled to the land of her captivity by being better acquainted with it, would be very unkind. She must not bewail her idols, but be glad to part with them; to her near and dear relations only her affection must be thus indulged. 2. If, upon second thoughts, he that had brought her to his house with a purpose to marry her changed his mind and would not marry her, he might not make merchandise of her, as of his other prisoners, but must give her liberty to return, if she pleased, to her own country, because he had humbled her and afflicted her, by raising expectations and then disappointing them (Deut. 21:14); having made a fool of her, he might not make a prey of her. This intimates how binding the laws of justice and honour are, particularly in the pretensions of love, the courting of affections, and the promises of marriage, which are to be looked upon as solemn things, that have something sacred in them, and therefore are not to be jested with.

Monday, July 6th 2015 at 12:07AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Now Brother Soso, do you want to talk about the topic of the Video presentation?




Monday, July 6th 2015 at 12:09AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon; I believe your video is about the so-call Black Hebrews and Black American who are the decadence Black Hebrews, and how because the Black Hebrews did not listen to the voice of god YAH, He punish them by enslaving, beating, raping woman and children, cause iron to be put around the necks of the men chains on their feet muzzle on their mouth like pit bull Deacon again rape was committed against the women and children during slavery Deacon I am on topic

Brother Deacon Do you really believe by this Law of Deuteronomy 21:10-14 which permit soldiers to marry their captives if they please because the hardiness of their hearts Moses give his soldiers permission to do as they please with the woman captives Deacon, any Judge in his or her court room will throw the book at this Moses for permitting such an act he will be dishonourable discharge and jailed along with his soldiers Brother Deacon:???

Monday, July 6th 2015 at 4:59PM
Sylvainy R
Brother Soso,

In this sentence, your words paint the picture that YAH He punish them by enslaving, beating, raping woman and children, that YAH himself beat and raped the women and children but it was YAH who caused the enemy of the Hebrews to put his people into captivity. I 'am sure that you did not mean that.

I just told you what my thoughts on Deuteronomy 21:10-14 in my statement posted on Monday, July 6th 2015 at 12:07AM second paragraph.


Monday, July 6th 2015 at 10:08PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon; Is that the best yiu can do???
Monday, July 6th 2015 at 10:29PM
Sylvainy R
Brother Soso,,

I am not forcing you to believe nothing but the truth of the believers in the power of YAH (GOD.)


Monday, July 6th 2015 at 10:48PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon you said (I am not forcing you to believe nothing but the truth of the believers in the power of YAH god) I admire your cunning way of saying things, Brother Deacon I understand your convection,

However there’s a danger when it comes to religious beliefs and faith, you said the bible is the word of this god YAH if such is the case, then! Deuteronomy 21:10-14 soldiers marrying Female Captives against their will constitutes rape and you Deacon said it’s because of the hardness of their hearts Moses give them that permission to the soldiers then if Moses give them that permission then that word must have come from this your god YAH

Brother Deacon its wonder preacher’s ministers men of the cloth can manipulate woman, children, and the less informed with ease because it’s justified in the bible Deacon a rose by any other name is still a rose and smells like a rose likewise rape by any other name is still rape and CANNOT be justified not even in the bible

Brother Deacon, this omnipotent omniscient god YAH knew what your so-call chosen Black Hebrews will do before they do it, so then this omnipotent omniscient god YAH decided to give his chosen so-call chosen Black Hebrew people a choice even though this omnipotent omniscient god YAH knew what his chosen so-call Black Hebrews will chose he still give them a choice and from these so-call chosen

Black Hebrew people choosing this omnipotent omniscient god YAH decided his so-call Black Hebrew people choice was not good so this omnipotent omniscient god YAH decided to inflict pain and suffering raping of woman and children among other acts of cruelty all because his so-call chosen Black Hebrew people

Brother Deacon you and many others like you are preaching this in the Black community and you wonder why our community is in the state that it is in Brother Deacon again sorry to be blunt AGAIN you and others like you are preaching self –hate and controlling the mind of others who are less informed

Tuesday, July 7th 2015 at 3:45PM
Sylvainy R
No my Brother, what is cunning is the way you try to twist my words, case in point Deuteronomy 21:10-14 soldiers marrying Female Captives against their will, I have not said anywhere in what I said to you constitutes rape which I never claimed that a soldier marrying Female Captives against their will. That my Brother is something that you are obsessed with trying your best to tag YAH’S LAWS with.

Let us reexamine what I said: Deuteronomy 21:10-14 By this law a soldier is allowed to marry his captive if he pleased. For the hardness of their hearts Moses gave them this permission, lest, if they had not had liberty given them to marry such, they should have taken liberty to defile themselves with them, and by such wickedness the camp would have been troubled. The man is supposed to have a wife already, and to take this wife for a secondary wife, as the Hebrews called them. This indulgence of men’s inordinate desires, in which their hearts walked after their eyes, is by no means agreeable to the law of Christ, which therefore in this respect, among others, far exceeds in glory the law of Moses. The gospel permits not him that has one wife to take another, for from the beginning it was not so. The gospel forbids looking upon a woman, though a beautiful one, to lust after her, and commands the mortifying and denying of all irregular desires, though it be as uneasy as the cutting off of a right hand; so much does our holy religion, more than that of the Hebrew Jews, advance the honour and support the dominion of the soul over the body, the spirit over the flesh, consonant to the glorious discovery it makes of life and immortality, and the better hope.


Tuesday, July 7th 2015 at 4:48PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon: on Monday, July 6th 2015 at 12:07AM you said AND I QUOTE YOU (Deuteronomy 21:10-14 by this law a soldier is allowed to marry his captive if he pleased. For the hardness of their hearts Moses gave them this permission),

Brother Deacon when you go to or in war and you take someone Captive, they are POW not by their choice, and I know I don’t have to tell you that, Now if you get permission from your commander to marry your captive it is surly NOT FOR MILK AND COOKIES, thus you are forcing yourself on your CAPTIVES and that constitutes RAPE no matter how you want to put it

Brother Deacon: it matters not to me the laws of Christ in the New Testament we are dealing with the old Testament particular Deuteronomy 21:10-14

Brother Deacon you said and I quote YOU (The gospel forbids looking upon a woman, though a beautiful one, to lust after her, and commands the mortifying and denying of all irregular desires, though it be as uneasy as the cutting off of a right hand; so much does our holy religion, more than that of the Hebrew Jews, advance the honour and support the dominion of the soul over the body, the spirit over the flesh, consonant to the glorious discovery it makes of life and immortality, and the better hope) Brother Deacon: Please just this once step out of the box YOU ARE IN and think about what you are saying (THE GOSPEL FORBIDS LOOKING UPON A WOMAN)

Wednesday, July 8th 2015 at 3:11PM
Sylvainy R
Brother Soso,

Looking at a woman and forcing yourself on a woman is two different things...


Wednesday, July 8th 2015 at 6:18PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Deacon: How perceptive of you
Thursday, July 9th 2015 at 10:07AM
Sylvainy R
I am just a humble servant of YAH, My Brother Soso.




Thursday, July 9th 2015 at 10:25AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
If anyone tells you they know the truth about who The Hebrew people are in The Holy Bible and cannot show or prove or can give a reasonable explanation on how they arrived to their conclusion, especially when it comes to saying that Christianity is a white man’s religion, That The Hebrew people, God’s chosen people, The characters and the Prophets Of The Old Testaments of the Bible was Caucasian’s, if they can’t do that, they need more studies, and those who follow in those ways also need more studies and thy are foolish by way of their indoctrination.

I am just interested in the truth, in saying that, I will be referring in the knowledge of The Creator by his true ancient name as “YAH” as we give Yah the praise as in “HALLELUYAH” The Most High. Some may say, that they are Black American’s and do not speak Hebrew but I say that YAH is the same Creator who created the heavens and the earth and his name never change and will not change just because you are Black Americans. YAH, has been talking to his people since the beginning in the first five books of The Holy Bible.


Thursday, August 6th 2015 at 10:25PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Any one is welcome to try and refute this proof.


Wednesday, August 26th 2015 at 11:21PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
I still stand-by my statement. Anyone!!!


Friday, September 11th 2015 at 10:18PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.

I guess you will!........is soso now VANQUISHED?

or is he a holyGhost?
Saturday, September 12th 2015 at 9:44AM
robert powell
That is a low blow to say about anyone, Robert. You get nothing for that comment here.


Saturday, September 12th 2015 at 11:32AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Can Anyone Debunk What You Are About To See?


Sunday, October 18th 2015 at 10:58AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.

de¡¤bunk

tr.v. de¡¤bunked, de¡¤bunk¡¤ing, de¡¤bunks

To expose or ridicule the falseness, sham, or exaggerated claims of: debunk a supposed miracle drug.


de¡¤bunk¡äer n.

Word History: The bunk in debunk came from a place where much bunk has originated, the United States Congress. During the 16th Congress (1819-1821), Felix Walker, representative from the district in North Carolina including Buncombe County, delivered a particularly pointless speech intended merely to convince his constituency that he was making a difference in Washington. His harried colleagues asked him to desist, but he nattered on despite their protests¡ªhe was speaking not to Congress, he explained, but "to Buncombe." Buncombe, respelled bunkum and later shortened to bunk, thus became synonymous with claptrap. The answer to all this bunk came in 1923 when William E. Woodward, a writer with a reputation for giving the blunt facts about respected US institutions, coined the term debunk in a best-selling novel called Bunk.

I cannot Debunk Cartoons-----I understand many 'blackPeople' loves cartoons......

BUT

as Debunk was first USED in the 19thCentury and video Cartoons were NOT invented UNTIL the 20th Century

YOU, 'blackHebrewIsraelite' are a DEBUNKER --- a shameless BIA purveyor of falseness, a sham, UNTRUE......in 2015


Sunday, October 18th 2015 at 3:50PM
robert powell


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de·bunk
dēˈbəNGk/
verb
expose the falseness or hollowness of (a myth, idea, or belief).
"the magazine that debunks claims of the paranormal"
synonyms: explode, deflate, quash, discredit, disprove, contradict, controvert, invalidate, negate; More

If you was man enough to view this video Robert, you will see how far off topic you are
In your misguided attempts to redirect this very important time in our history.

You have nothing to add to this blog but junk.


Monday, October 19th 2015 at 12:07AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
I see why no one watches the video, After listening to about two minutes, I turned it off because it sounded like the voice of an Englishman telling the story about forever enslavement of Blacks. Most people would value the words that uplift instead of pulling down your spirit.
Monday, October 19th 2015 at 3:19AM
Helen Lofton

THANK YOU again, dear Wise Helen Lofton........

the cartoon of deacon is BUNK from a DEBUNKED 'blackHebrewIsraelite' SHAMER

Stereotypically your blaggette Misconception shows the bleak'Black' history of NO SHAME




Monday, October 19th 2015 at 8:14AM
robert powell
Sister Lofton,

Slavery is depressing, then and now. The content of this story is to most important. Was the prophecy fulfilled? Was YAH'S / GODS people Forewarned? Furthermore Can slavery happen again? By giving this video just two minutes is the equivalent of judging a book by it's cover. Now in that Two minutes, was there any falsehoods, LIES or as Robert said BUNK that you can point to being untrue?


Robert, since you will not discuss the content because you got other issues, you are acting like slavery never happened? Yes! Racism is apart of the Black Americans experience and continues to be apart of the Black American experience today. if you think that racism is not apart of history, why would you attack the messager, for bringIng you this message?

Let us discuss the content of this video and not the content of your character.
Monday, October 19th 2015 at 11:23PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.

Can Anyone Debunk What You Are About To See?

Subject?

yet the selfProfessed 'blackHebrewIsraelite' deacon Misconceiver and Enabler of racistEuropean Ignorance....writes

"..... you are acting like slavery never happened? Yes! Racism is apart of the Black Americans experience and continues to be apart of the Black American experience today. if you think that racism is not apart of history, why would you attack the messager, for bringIng you this message?

Let us discuss the content of this video and not the content of your character.
Monday, October 19th 2015 at 11:23PM
Deacon Ron Gray

**********************

One thing I HAVE MAINTAINED in RECORDED BIA History, at least 1,890,247,311 times is that ....

1. slaverAmericana 1492-1864(1964) is the MOST EVIL, period of the RELATIONSHIP with europeAmerica - europeAfricaAsia
2. slaverAmericana 1492-1864(1964) with NO VIDEOS, was the GREATEST Rape, Torture and Murder in MANKINDS History......
3. slaverAmericana 1492-1864(1964) JUDGEMENT was DONE by paganChristian europeanRacists............
4. slaverAmericana 1492-1864(1964) JUDGEMENT was ONLY superCeded in IGNORANCE by negroSlave like paganChristian ENABLING

I do not AND will NEVER discuss a CARTOON video about History, Scholarship and Science BEFORE videos were INVENTED

2015 videos of History, Scholarship and Science are for LAZY stereotypical Misconception of GENUINE READING and STUDY.......

STOP your negroidSlave childlike LAZINESS with this SHAM and FRAUD of a CARTOON........

and GET KNOWLEDGE by READING in any African Asian Language TRUTHFUL......History, Scholarship and Science


Tuesday, October 20th 2015 at 8:08AM
robert powell
YOUR WORDS: I do not AND will NEVER discuss a CARTOON video about History, Scholarship and Science BEFORE videos were INVENTED

Robert, You never had excess to the internet before now, where your words travel to ten's of hundreds, if not thousands of members on Black In America, now you do. so don't give me that crap about viewing a video, you are sounding real foolish now.

See, if you knew what you was talking about, you would realize that this video is about History, Scholarship and Science. All of the events in this video did happen and are apart of history, our African American history But you will not see that, where you put your head at, Robert.

If you don't want to look at this video and continue your path that you are on of ignorance, that is your business. Robert, for someone who claims they never seen this video, how can you call yourself accurate and creditable in calling this video a CARTOON, SHAM and a FRAUD? Sounds like to me that you are throwing a lot of CRAP on the wall, trying to see what will stick.

Any time you want to discuss the content of this blog which includes the video, you will be welcomed, until then

YOU HAVE BEEN DISMISSED, WHAT A SHAME.





Tuesday, October 20th 2015 at 10:44AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.

Can Anyone Debunk What You Are About To See?

Subject?

yet the selfProfessed 'blackHebrewIsraelite' deacon Misconceiver and Enabler of racistEuropean Ignorance....writes this about His Cartoon Video

".... this video is about History, Scholarship and Science. All of the events in this video did happen and are apart of history, our African American history....

YOU HAVE BEEN DISMISSED, WHAT A SHAME..."

Tuesday, October 20th 2015 at 10:44AM
Deacon Ron Gray

*******************************

was your Cartoon Video

1. Researched using African Asian History, Scholarship and Science?

2. Produced by African Asians?

3. Intended for non paganChristians?

again, STOP your negroidSlave childlike LAZINESS with this SHAM and FRAUD of a CARTOON........

and GET KNOWLEDGE by READING in any African Asian Language TRUTHFUL......History, Scholarship and Science

Wednesday, October 21st 2015 at 8:21AM
robert powell
Get your head out of your backside and take a look and then you tell me that this video was not talking about apart of our history, take a look and then tell me that this did not happen to our people, take a and complete the video and tell me that this video is a CARTOON.

You will see the answer to your first two questions as plain as day. For your third question, This video was intended for the world to see.

This post has been up since Wednesday, June 10th 2015 at 8:26AM and you have made all these comments on something that you have not seen, WOW unbelievable!!!




Wednesday, October 21st 2015 at 11:13AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.

Can Anyone Debunk What You Are About To See?

Subject?

BOTTOM LINE

cartoons are for CHILDREN'S fantasy

READING is for Adults......that want an Education.....


Thursday, October 22nd 2015 at 8:13AM
robert powell
IN other words, NO you have seen this documentary and you have no clue what you talking about on this subject.


Thursday, October 22nd 2015 at 1:24PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
From time to time I look back at my blogs to read the comments of others. I have asked this question: "Can Anyone Debunk What You Are About To See?" with no clear answers from those who saw this video presentation.


Wednesday, December 16th 2015 at 1:07AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.

Can Anyone Debunk What You Are About To See?

Subject?

BOTTOM LINE

Reading and Understanding History of 4000-500 years Ago is the ONLY way to SEE........ History........

cartoons may be the liberal way of Educating negros

BUT One Must Read, and Research Scholarship

stereotypical........Misconception is your Mantra, the racist Enabling of Falsehood....and that is OK for Lazy Americans

no ONE cannot debunk cartoons of an Uneducated American Populace

.....as Republican Campaign shows us with the bushCruzFatBoy "Sam I am" and 'blackHebrewIsraelite' Folks show 12/15/2015


Wednesday, December 16th 2015 at 8:12AM
robert powell
Sorry self-appointed professor of 5000 lost men and women. This blog is not about the Republican Campaign which shows everyone who are reading your words, that you have not viewed the content of this blog knucklehead.

That is THE BOTTOM LINE.

Wednesday, December 16th 2015 at 6:15PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
This offer still stands, can anyone rebuke What You Seen?



Friday, February 5th 2016 at 10:54PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.

6500 hits and you want the EDUCATED to.....REBUKE or DEBUNK a CARTOON video of preVideo World?

REBUKE

re-buk':

As a verb "rebuke" is in the Old Testament the translation of ga`ar and yakhach; another word, ribh, in Nehemiah 5:7, is in the Revised Version (British and American) translated "contended with." "Rebuke" (noun) is most frequently the translation of ge`arah; also in the King James Version of cherpah

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after these 6500 hits comments...It is OBVIOUS to me that you REPRESENT the RACIST kingJamesVersion of paganChrisitanity

------paganEuropean RACIST THOUGHT....'blackHebrewIsraelite'....... is NOT Hebraic or Monotheistic African Asian Belief..

A brief STUDY by Educated Americans

------WOULD reveal that the ISRAELITES of 4000+ years and 2016 NEVER, EVER have called self 'black'

BUT all Israelites of 4000+ YEARS would agree......." My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge "


Saturday, February 6th 2016 at 9:28AM
robert powell
In other words, "NO You can't." You don't any proof of racism contained in the Scriptures in the Scriptures of The Holy Bible (KJV) if so, you would have pointed that out long a go.

By the way Robert, did you see the video persentation?


Saturday, February 6th 2016 at 10:44AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.


....8000+ hits of stereotypical negroid LYIN, FALSE ideas and thoughts.....

REBUKE or DEBUNK a CARTOON video of preVideo World?

....re-buk':

"Rebuke" (noun) is most frequently the translation of ge`arah; also in the King James Version of cherpah

****************************************************************************************

...YouTube looked at contents and REBUKED or ge'arahed that deaCON Cartoon........

"...This Video has been removed for VIOLATING YouTubes Terms of Service....."



Monday, June 1st 2020 at 3:14PM
robert powell
No, not true at all This video was not removed for VIOLATING YouTubes Terms of Service.....

FuFu do you understand that this post was inactive since Saturday, February 6th 2016 at 10:44AM and I' am sure the managers of Black In America needed the space.


Monday, June 1st 2020 at 6:45PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.

...YouTube looked at contents and REBUKED or ge'arahed that deaCON Cartoon........

"...This Video has been removed for VIOLATING YouTubes Terms of Service....."

Monday, June 1st 2020 at 9:45PM
robert powell
News Flash robert powell, I never posted that information on You Tube in the first place. That's right you don't know how YouTube works anyway. WOW!!!


Tuesday, June 2nd 2020 at 8:41AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.

News Flash robert powell, I never posted that information on You Tube in the first place. That's right you don't know how YouTube works anyway. WOW!!!


Tuesday, June 2nd 2020 at 8:41AM
Deacon Ron Gray

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....I DO KNOW about ALL the CONNED hits on this FALSE FAKE news "CARTOON BLOG" of BIA #1 deaCON

BUT......I do KNOW and ALL BIA, this African American Family site KNOWS:

1. YouTube DEBUNKED and DELETED this deaCON NONSENSE

"...This Video has been removed for VIOLATING YouTubes Terms of Service....."

2.Sylvainy Soso; BIA African American Family member...asked you about this Racist Blog NONSENSE.. 5 years AGO

Deacon. Where is your proof God choose Israel
Wednesday, June 10th 2015 at 2:16PM
Sylvainy Soso

3. Steve Williams; BIA African American Family member...asked you about this Racist Blog NONSENSE.. 5 years AGO

Deacon, are you saying the enslaved were sinners...they didn't worship Jehovah, that they didn't cry to Jehovah?

Wednesday, June 10th 2015 at 11:16PM
Steve Williams

4. AND I, Robert Powell, a 13 YEAR BIA, African American Family member ALSO the day deaCON posted this NONSENSE:

Deacon, not because you present a --CARTOON-- video of an alleged God choose israel makes it true or

prove that it is true my question to you is where is your proof that this God chose Israel..?

I see a CARTOON ---

Thursday, June 11th 2015 at 9:58AM
robert powell | delete

5. AND most important I do NOT KNOW why the BIA, Administration allows russianBOT racistNONSENSE at BIA.....

.......reggie could have done this LONG before YouTube had to DEBUNK, REBUKE the COLORED-racist deaCON.....


Tuesday, June 2nd 2020 at 9:17AM
robert powell
That is a good question rober powell, here my proof that this God chose Israel.

1. For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God, and the LORD hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself, above all the nations that are upon the earth. Deuteronomy 14:2

2. Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD; and the people whom he hath chosen for his own inheritance. Psalms 33:12

3. Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you. John 15:16

4. Jesus Christ is the ultimate reason why God chose Israel to be His special people. God did not need to have a chosen people, but He decided to do it that way. Jesus had to come from some nation of people, and God chose Israel.


5. God chose the ancient Israelites because He had promised Abraham that his descendants would become a great nation and occupy the land of Canaan (Genesis 12:3, 7; 17:4, 7-8; 22:17)

6. According to the Bible, Israel's character as the chosen people is unconditional as it says in Deuteronomy 14:2, "For you are a holy people to YHWH your God, and God has chosen you to be his treasured people from all the nations that are on the face of the earth."

Robert powell, I have given you Six great points to directly answer your question of: "where is your proof that this God chose Israel..? for your review.




Tuesday, June 2nd 2020 at 9:49AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.

"..You don't any proof of racism contained in the Scriptures in the Scriptures of The Holy Bible (KJV) ..

By the way Robert, did you see the video persentation?.."

Saturday, February 6th 2016 at 10:44AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.

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AGAIN for the 2,000,111,333rd time...

So another deaCON video was of NO VALUE and Violated standards anyway...

..Again the kingJames, masterSLAVER deaCON Pastes have always been incorrect in oldENGLISH or LATIN..

..1415, Portuguese crossed the Strait of Gibraltar and captured the Moroccan port of Ceuta

Prince Henry the Navigator financed numerous expeditions along the western coast of Africa, to Spread

Christianity(in the name of LatinoJesus) and making Portugal rich with gold, spices and African slaves.

..Portugal was responsible for the slave trade to the Americas through colonies on previously

uninhabited Atlantic African islands that served as collection points for captives and commodities.

...Henry died in 1460, Portuguese sailors and settlers had reached as far as modern-day Sierra Leone,

and formed active colonies on the islands of Porto Santo, Madeira and the Azores.

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Greek/Latin deuteronomy, or english kingJames deuteronomy was start of AfricanAsian decay and Disaster..


Saturday, September 2nd 2023 at 12:24PM
robert powell
Poor Mr. Robert Powell since the video is not coming on due to technical difficulties, I will end this conversation. Stay lost in you self imposed ignorance to the facts in The Holy Bible, if that’s what you choose to do. This is America where you got the right to believe what you want to believe.

Enjoy your self, Mr. Robert Powell, as far as I’m concerned, this conversation is over.


Sunday, September 3rd 2023 at 8:29AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.

The Torah is a SUBJECT of Hebraic, Aramaic AfricanAsian Monotheistic Thought, Scholarship and Science

developed in AfricaAsia by the Family of Created Manking..Adaam(as)

..newTestament is a collection of paganGreekRoman-Latin euroPEON work

NO Jew or judeoIslaamic Belief of the Creator of Adaam(as) acknowledges euroPEON-"newTestament"

..deaCON racistIgnorance is the asSleep COLORED'whiteSupremacy' ERA...WAKE UP get WOKE....

Sunday, September 3rd 2023 at 10:23AM
robert powell
Goodbye Little Man…

Sunday, September 3rd 2023 at 3:56PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.

Goodbye; deaCON defeated, CHECKMATED, bastion of the spreadMaintenance of COLORED"whiteSupremacy"


Monday, September 4th 2023 at 2:39PM
robert powell
Later you poor little old man you.


Monday, September 4th 2023 at 3:43PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.

Again I got 3 wives 11 children, 23 grandchildren and homes on 4 continents...

..I would though like to lose 25 lbs...to get to little old man status....


Monday, September 4th 2023 at 4:07PM
robert powell
Did you support your 11 children?


Monday, September 4th 2023 at 4:50PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.

I am a Man..

Children are the blessing from Creator

Children are the purpose of Family..

Children are Existence and all men and women that have children MUST obey Creator and ALWAYS support!

..again little disrespecting deaCON...

I support all My Children and GrandChildren and any child that needs support...!




Tuesday, September 5th 2023 at 11:25AM
robert powell
That is GOOD Mr. Robert Powell because from time to time you sound like you have miss guided temperament.

Thank You Mr. Robert Powell for taking care of your children from afar.


Tuesday, September 5th 2023 at 11:42AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.

Most of My childrenGrandchildren live in my homes in California, Minnesota, Bosnia, Germany and East Africa

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..deaCON.."tempermant"...?

I have a distaste for LYING, FALSE Scholarship, History of COLORED'whiteSupremist' thought since my 9th birthday

I find deaCON racist propagation at this AfricanAmerican Family site disrespectful and divisionist

..It is BIA, AfricanAmerican Family Membership rules and intent to "shatter" old racist stereotypes

I am required as a member to shatter deaCON racistNONSENSE/LYING/MisInformation.. most of the time

Tuesday, September 5th 2023 at 11:58AM
robert powell
With WHAT Mr. Robert Powell?

Let me ask you something Mr. Robert Powell, where in this blog is this so-called racist propagation at this AfricanAmerican Family site disrespectful and diversionist in this blog?

While you are at it, can you find in this blog this so-called " old racist stereotypes " that you are talking in this blog?



Tuesday, September 5th 2023 at 12:19PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.

Can Anyone Debunk What You Are About To See?

SUBJECT

(deaCON PASTE at this African American Family site)

God chose Israel to represent Him. What were His reasons?
Deuteronomy 7:6-11

Posted By: Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Wednesday, June 10th 2015 at 8:26AM
You can also click here to view all posts by this author...

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"...With WHAT Mr. Robert Powell?...Let me ask you something Mr. Robert Powell, where in this blog

is..racist propagation at this AfricanAmerican Family site disrespectful and diversionist in this blog?

..can you find in this blog this so-called " old racist stereotypes " that you are talking in this blog?

Tuesday, September 5th 2023 at 12:19PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.

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1. There is NO VIDEO, IT has been deleted for MAYBE, Racist FakeNews, FALSE information

2. Israel, or jewishPeople, since Hitler times were Racistly Burned in OVENS by Europeans

3. Israel, or jewishPeople in 2023 MAINTAIN the MOST racist Apartheid STATE in the World

4. I am WRITING this at this AfricanAmerican Family site to shatter deaCON " old racist stereotypes "

5. My policy ALWAYS on videos is, fakeNews and possibility of russianHACKING...

...BUT...

2 BIA members who saw deaCON 'bannedVideo' WROTE long ago..to debunk deaCON debunked video..

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"..Again I’ve seen your video..where is your proof that this God you are talking about chose Israel.."

Thursday, June 11th 2015 at 1:15PM
Sylvainy R

...AND

"..Brother Deacon, I'm not trying to debunk the video, I just have some questions.

Another is why the Black Hebrew Israelites were enslaved by by a Black Hebrew Israelite king?.."

Thursday, June 11th 2015 at 1:23PM
Steve Williams

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CHECKMATE...racistlyIgnorant stereotypes at this AfricanAmerican Family site PASTED by author deaCON...

Wednesday, September 6th 2023 at 11:32AM
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