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Wall Street: Trump's debt policy smacks of bankruptcy

Wall Street: Trump's debt policy smacks of bankruptcy

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. · Tuesday, May 10th 2016 at 12:19PM · 1670 views
Wall Street: Trump's debt policy smacks of bankruptcy
His vow to 'make a deal' with creditors would undermine U.S. economy, bankers say.


By Ben White05/10/16 05:15 AM EDT

NEW YORK — Donald Trump has a debt problem.

Twice in the past five days the presumptive Republican nominee has said things about dealing with the $19 trillion federal debt that left Wall Street terrified, Republicans dumbfounded and Democrats licking their chops.

The trouble for Trump began Thursday on CNBC, when he appeared to suggest that as president he would not repay all the U.S. debt owed to creditors. Asked whether the U.S. should repay its debts in full or ask creditors to take less, Trump said: “I would borrow, knowing that if the economy crashed, you could make a deal.”

Financial experts instantly leaped on the comments, suggesting that Trump — who is no stranger to bankruptcy as an executive — would allow the U.S. to default for the first time in its history, an event which could send interest rates soaring and tank the U.S. economy.

Trump went on CNN on Monday morning to clear things up.

Of course he would never allow the U.S. to default. Anyone who suggested such a thing must be “crazy.” What Trump meant to say was that if interest rates rise he would consider buying back existing U.S. debt at a lower prices. As interest rates rise, the price of existing debt goes down.

“In other words, we can buy back debt at a discount. People said I wanted to go and buy debt and default on debt, these people are crazy,” Trump said.


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Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Tuesday, May 10th 2016 at 2:18PM

Remember, that this country just came out of the worst recession since the Great Depression, of The Republican Bush administration. This country don't need to go back into another under another Republican admininstration.

Steve Williams Tuesday, May 10th 2016 at 9:59PM

Again, how much debt has been added under Obama?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Wednesday, May 11th 2016 at 12:33AM

Actually we are doing better under the Obama administration. The National debt grew at a lesser rate, once we as a nation stepped back from voo doo economics of the BUSH years.

Steve Williams Wednesday, May 11th 2016 at 7:24AM

Barack Obama - The national debt grew the most dollar-wise during President Obama's term. He added $6.494 trillion, a 56% increase, in seven years. Obama's budgets included the economic stimulus package. It added $787 billion by cutting taxes, extending unemployment benefits, and funding job-creating public works projects. The Obama tax cuts added $858 billion to the debt over two years. Obama's budget included increased defense spending to between $700 billion and $800 billion a year. Federal income was down, thanks to lower tax receipts from the 2008 financial crisis. He also sponsored the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, which was designed to reduce the debt by $143 billion over ten years. However, these savings didn't show up until the later years. For more, see National Debt Under Obama.

George W. Bush - President Bush added the second greatest amount to the debt, at $5.849 trillion. But he added a lot more percentage-wise, more than doubling the debt. It was $5.8 trillion on September 30, 2001. That's the end of FY 2001, which was President Clinton's last budget. Bush responded to the 9/11 attacks by launching the War on Terror. That drove military spending to record levels of between $600-$800 billion a year. It included the Iraq War, which cost $807.5 billion. President Bush also responded to the 2001 recession by passing EGTRRA and JGTRRA, otherwise known as the Bush tax cuts, which reduced revenue. He approved a $700 billion bailout package for banks to combat the 2008 global financial crisis. Both Presidents Bush and Obama had to contend with higher mandatory spending for Social Security and Medicare. For more, see President Obama Compared to President Bush Policies.

http://useconomy.about.com/od/usdebtanddef...

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Wednesday, May 11th 2016 at 9:33AM

He also lowered the unemployment rate from a whopping 10.3% to as low as 5%, he also saved the auto industry, belled out well street, and the banks.

If you care to look at how President Obama Staved Off a Bush Depression, Improved the Economy

Pushed through and signed the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, also known as “the stimulus package.” He also launched recovery.gov, a website that allows taxpayers to track spending from the Act. http://1.usa.gov/ibiFSshttp://1.usa.gov/e3...

By the end of his first year, the economy created and sustained 2.1 million jobs and stimulated the economy by 3.5%. http://reut.rs/i46CEE

He created the massive TARP financial and banking rescue plan and forced banks and other entities to pay back virtually all of the bailout money. http://1.usa.gov/eA5jVShttp://bit.ly/eCNrD...

He created the Making Home Affordable home refinancing plan. http://1.usa.gov/goy6zl

In 2010, more jobs were created than had been created during Bush’s eight years. http://bit.ly/hrrnjY

He pushed through and implemented an auto industry rescue plan that saved as many as 1 million jobs and possibly the entire auto industry. http://bit.ly/ibhpxr http://bit.ly/gj7mt5

Through his investment in GM, returned to the company to its place as the premiere car company in the world. http://lat.ms/zIJuQx

In February 2016, GM was in such good financial shape, they gave a share of the profit to each worker, with checks up to $11,000. http://detne.ws/1mk7Jry

Doubled funding for the Manufacturing Extension Partnership, to improve manufacturing efficiency. http://bit.ly/eYD4nf

Increased infrastructure spending after years of neglect. http://bit.ly/f77aOw

Signed the Helping Families Save Their Homes Act, which helped millions of Americans avoid preventable foreclosures and provided $2.2 billion to combat homelessness and stabilize the housing market. http://bit.ly/eEpLFn

Signed an Executive Order creating jobs immediately by instructing them to reduce the time needed for review and permitting of infrastructure projects. http://1.usa.gov/GHxaYt

Through the Worker, Homeownership, and Business Assistance Act of 2009, he and Congressional Democrats provided tax credits to first-time home buyers, which helped the U.S. housing market recovery. http://bit.ly/dZgXXw http://bit.ly/gORYfL

Played a lead role in getting the G-20 Summit to commit to a $1.1 trillion deal to combat the global financial crisis. http://nyti.ms/gHlgp5

Through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, saved at least 300,000 education jobs, such as teachers, principals, librarians, and counselors that would have otherwise been lost. http://1.usa.gov/ez30D

With Congressional Democrats, provided funding to states and the Department of Homeland Security to save thousands of police and firefighter jobs from being cut during the recession. http://bit.ly/g0IKWR

China’s largest manufacturer, Foxconn, is building a large plant in Pennsylvania http://cnnmon.ie/1k7LT4S

Worked with Apple Computer to get them to build more product here, and thecompany is building two large plants to manufacture products here; one in Texas http://zd.net/1nkpt2O and one in Arizona http://bit.ly/1mXY5Vg

Created an institute to invest in more manufacturing jobs in the technology fields of the future. http://nyti.ms/1egyXrV

Ordered all federal contractors to pay a minimum wage of $10.10 per hour, leading the way to a national increase. http://wapo.st/1iaU5kd

Ordered the completion of the International Trade Data System, a digital trade record book, by 2016. This move will streamline and simplify the process through which small- and medium-sized businesses set up the export of US goods. http://bit.ly/1nwSRF4

Now if you care to look that President Obama had Strengthened the Middle Class and Fought Poverty

Worked to provide affordable, high-quality child care to working families. http://bit.ly/fNfidS

Through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, cut taxes for 95% of America’s working families. http://bit.ly/eSEI4F

Tax rates for average working families are the lowest since 1950. http://bit.ly/f74pD8

Extended and fully funded the patch for the Alternative Minimum Tax for 10 years. http://bit.ly/eFeSdP

Extended discounted health coverage under the COBRA health insurance law for the unemployed from 9 months to 15 months, and he’s also extended unemployment benefits more than a few times. http://aol.it/evtVxDhttp://nyti.ms/emrqKJ http://bit.ly/hOtIpg http://bit.ly/fTT7kz

Provided a $20 billion increase for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (Food Stamps). http://nyti.ms/gfLqyM

Signed an Executive Order that established the White House Office of Urban Affairs. http://wapo.st/eWECA8

Included the Buffet Rule in his 2014 budget proposal, in order to fulfill a campaign promise to make sure tax rates are fair between the rich and the middle class. http://1.usa.gov/19PkdQo

Used the fiscal cliff negotiations to extend for five additional years the American Opportunity Tax Credit, which provides tax credits to families for college-related expenses, thus saving those families up to $10,000. http://onforb.es/17zYg3u

Increased protections for the unemployed who are seeking a government job. http://1.usa.gov/1jgXATu

Updated and modernized overtime regulations under the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) http://1.usa.gov/1iGDO8e

Signed and implemented the Healthy Hunger-Free Kids Act, to improve nutrition in schools and make children healthier. http://1.usa.gov/GAXkSk

To make college more affordable and accountable, will begin rating colleges with regard to affordability and value. http://bit.ly/14Dn7UL

Initiated a reform of federal job training programs, to make them more relevant to the current economy and the job market. http://1.usa.gov/1kZLQHG

Under Obama, the bottom 95% of taxpayers pay lower federal income taxes than at any time in the last 50 years, including under Reagan, or either Bush. http://bit.ly/1w1W8Ns

Signed a presidential memorandum authorizing six weeks paid leave for all federal employees with a new baby and encouraged Congress to do the same for all workers. http://bit.ly/18613XA

2014 marked the first time since 1984 that unemployment dropped in all 50 states and the District of Columbia. 1.usa.gov/1E25u0C

Took steps to improve workplace safety by creating an Advisory Board to study workers’ exposure to toxic substances. http://1.usa.gov/1M4s8IG

Changed overtime rules to make it far more difficult for employers to avoid paying overtime to workers. http://politi.co/1KHfiBe

Changed rules for federal contractors, guaranteeing that all workers earn paid leave; this should affect about 300,000 workers. http://1.usa.gov/1LcHZWl

Negotiated a law to finally replace “No Child Left Behind” and remove much of the onerous government “oversight” that caused children to stagnate, not improve, academically. http://bit.ly/1Up9pMl

Addressed Civil Rights and Equality

Formed a commission to examine and make recommendations for fixing the broken voting system. http://wapo.st/16K0D

Created a Civil Rights Division in the Justice Department that has become a very strong voice for Black people. http://bit.ly/1ObO7TI

At a press conference August 9, 2013, gave up a small measure of executive power, promising to create adversarial process in FISA regarding NSA surveillance. http://1.usa.gov/1dQmnyQ

Proposed rules to enhance Fair Housing Laws, to give HUD and other enforcement agencies more enforcement power. http://bit.ly/1qkz4uQ

Ordered a review of capital punishment policies after several botched executions. http://nyti.ms/RDJp58

Approved $1.2 billion discrimination settlement with black farmers who had proved USDA bias. http://huff.to/1Nol9Ab

Appointed Kareem Dale as the first ever Special Assistant to the President for Disability Policy. http://1.usa.gov/fi5IY0

Concentrated immigration enforcement on those who commit crimes, and vowed to stop breaking up families. http://1.usa.gov/1uTZ8gV

Streamlined the visa process, to make it more responsive and humane for those who want to be here legally. http://1.usa.gov/1tgDRti

Took steps to tighten the reins when it comes to providing local law enforcement agencies with military-style equipment and exercising more control over the equipment they receive. http://1.usa.gov/1ATWV3K

Changed fair housing rules to make more affordable housing available to more people. http://cnn.it/1JcR3qB

Helped Democrats in Congress pass and signed the Civil Rights History Act. http://bit.ly/th0JC8

Created a Policing Task Force to deal with the problems that led to the #BlackLivesMatter movement. http://nbcnews.to/1T17PON

His Justice Department investigated the Ferguson Police Department twice and slammed them for their racism and exploitive practices. http://nbcnews.to/1q9jTpf

Established the White House Council of Native American Affairs, to improve government-to-government relations with Native American nations. http://1.usa.gov/1cIEeEv

Limited local police acquisitions of military-style equipment, to reduce the likelihood of overkill. http://n.pr/1NGkBjT

Signed Blue Alert Law, which provides police officers with more information when they are threatened. http://bit.ly/1NGksga

Blocked the sale of Apache tribal land to foreign mining company, over Republican objections. http://bit.ly/1RYpmfihttp://bit.ly/1RYpmfi

Settled with the City of Cleveland over civil rights and excessive force violations. http://nbcnews.to/24GRQNw

Reviewed the practices of the Philadelphia Police Department and made 91 recommendations to prevent civil rights and excessive force violations. http://on.msnbc.com/1q9ktmX

Steven, you are apart of the Middle Classes?


Jeni Fa Wednesday, May 11th 2016 at 11:17AM

@ Deac,

Sadly people continue to point fingers and play the blame game. We Americans need to unify and stick together like New Yorkers... You mess with one of us, you mess with all of us. Isn't that what family does? (lol) Mr. Trump says that he wants to make this country great again. Let's see how we can set aside the rhetoric and come together to find greatness that we all can agree on.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Wednesday, May 11th 2016 at 12:12PM

Sister FA,

I agree and this country is still the greatest Nation on the planet because we pay are bills. That is the reason why other people from around the world, invest in the U.S..



Steve Williams Wednesday, May 11th 2016 at 3:43PM

He hasn't helped me or my family, or anyone I know Ron. On the contrary.

Steve Williams Wednesday, May 11th 2016 at 3:45PM

I'm lower class if you want to know.

Steve Williams Wednesday, May 11th 2016 at 5:58PM

Obama says, in his ghetto twang, that I just got lucky.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Wednesday, May 11th 2016 at 7:00PM

I see that you have not visit any of those links yet, like this one: If you was looking to refinance your home, you would benefit here: He created the Making Home Affordable home refinancing plan. http://1.usa.gov/goy6zl

Steven, I know that you paid your taxes. well, you benefited here: Under Obama, the bottom 95% of taxpayers pay lower federal income taxes than at any time in the last 50 years, including under Reagan, or either Bush. http://bit.ly/1w1W8Ns

I don't know your situation but I am sure that you or one you know have benefited by Obama's policies.

Now getting back to trumps plan. this is what WALL STREET is saying about Trump's economic policy.


Steve Williams Wednesday, May 11th 2016 at 9:49PM

Why would he say that Ron? Look how he's profited from from the internet, but he's going to tell me I just got lucky? Obama has no respect for the working class.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Wednesday, May 11th 2016 at 10:14PM

I don't know. I have no clue to what you are talking about Now Steven, what you can talk about is Donald Trump debt problem.



Steve Williams Wednesday, May 11th 2016 at 10:17PM

‘It wasn’t nothing you did. So don’t have an attitude’ - See more at: http://www.teaparty.org/obama-tells-grads-...

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, May 12th 2016 at 6:25AM

This is great material for you to start your own blog with Steven but the topic here is about ,The trouble for Trump began Thursday on CNBC, when he appeared to suggest that as president he would not repay all the U.S. debt owed to creditors. Asked whether the U.S. should repay its debts in full or ask creditors to take less, Trump said: “I would borrow, knowing that if the economy crashed, you could make a deal.”

Back to the "Great Recession."

Steve Williams Thursday, May 12th 2016 at 6:37AM

You already have a blog about the Howard speech. It's the same one where he says you can be 100% right. I agree with Limbaugh, it was hideous. In this business about Trump, who are these bankers and financial experts? The ones running the printing presses when they need a little extra dough?

Steve Williams Thursday, May 12th 2016 at 7:32AM

Grover Norquist, a Republican who leads the anti-tax group Americans for Tax Reform, defended Trump's debt-reduction comments on CNN on Monday, though he warned conservatives must preserve their traditional commitment to spending cuts and reform.
Asked specifically about Trump's remark that the U.S. will never default on its debt because it can always print more money, Norquist said: "Well, that's just stating a fact. It's what the United States government has been doing for quite a number of years is printing more money."
"Is it a good thing to do? No. Is it where you want to be? No. Is it what governments do over time? He's quite correct, that's what they tend to do," he said.
"(But) when somebody says this is the way governments have behaved, that's not necessarily an argument that that's what they ought to do -- what we should do is reduce spending as well as create growth."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/09/politics/don...

robert powell Thursday, May 12th 2016 at 8:06AM

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Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, May 12th 2016 at 8:08AM

Norquist and Trump is not on the same page when it comes to the National debt at all.

Steve Williams Thursday, May 12th 2016 at 8:14AM

Well Ron, I guess you would be the financial expert.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, May 12th 2016 at 4:15PM

No Steven, this is what the Wall Street bankers are saying.

Steve Williams Thursday, May 12th 2016 at 4:31PM

Those bankers aren't a very reputable lot.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, May 12th 2016 at 6:34PM

That is who bought The Republican Party to further their interest, to promote the laws for corporation and the oligarch's.

Steve Williams Thursday, May 12th 2016 at 7:25PM

Then I guess they are against Trump because he hasn't been bought.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, May 12th 2016 at 9:59PM

Do you want to bet? Steven, trump is one of them corporation and the oligarch's, billionaire class who pay less in taxes then you do.

Steve Williams Friday, May 13th 2016 at 4:27AM

Then Wall Strret has nothing to worry about. Which is it Ron?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, May 13th 2016 at 8:41AM

Do you want to bet? This man stands for nothing. He has backed down from his original comical economical plan already. This man stands for nothing and he will get his orders from PAULRYAN as well.

Steve Williams Friday, May 13th 2016 at 1:58PM

From Paul Ryan? LOL.

Steve Williams Friday, May 13th 2016 at 2:03PM

Are you a closet conservative Ron?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, May 13th 2016 at 2:53PM

According to the first amendment which gives powers to the legislative branch of the government which Paul Ryan control the power of impeachment. I have not seen anywhere in the first amendment the president has the power to impeach the speaker of the house, have you?

Steve Williams Friday, May 13th 2016 at 3:20PM

Donald Trump won't abuse executive power as some have.

Steve Williams Friday, May 13th 2016 at 3:22PM

And what are you talking about, the First Amendment specifying power of impeachment?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Saturday, May 14th 2016 at 3:28PM

How do you know that? when this man has told hes sopprters LIES already. Paul will tell the Donald what to do. Have you heard from since the meeting?


Steve Williams Saturday, May 14th 2016 at 7:06PM

What are you talking about first amendment impeachment?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Saturday, May 14th 2016 at 9:06PM

No Steven, stop thinking foolishly. I was talking about. Your savior to the Republican Party. This man donald has told hus sopprters LIES already. Paul will tell the Donald what to do from here on out. Steven, Have you heard from the donld since the meeting with The Speaker of the House?

Steve Williams Saturday, May 14th 2016 at 9:39PM

I asked first Ron.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Saturday, May 14th 2016 at 9:49PM

Donald has gotten his orders from the Speaker. I have not heard a peek. How about you?

Steve Williams Sunday, May 15th 2016 at 1:40AM

I haven't been watching much. They haven't had too much to say since Trump clinched the nomination.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Sunday, May 15th 2016 at 2:14AM

He has not said nothing since Thursday and now it is Sunday morning.

Steve Williams Sunday, May 15th 2016 at 4:25AM

What's Crooked Hillary up to these days? Still being protected by her crony in the whiehouse.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Sunday, May 15th 2016 at 8:22AM

Trump got the answer: “This is the United States government,” Trump said. “First of all, you never have to default because you print the money, I hate to tell you.”

Now trump spends all of his time with a racist butlers tweets of hanging the president along with Hillary. In 1991 he has posed as John miller to promote himself in fake phone calls and making what brought him to fame, you know, his policies was just a suggestion. Now the GOP is in the blind and don't know what to do with this clown.

This is the creation of FOX NEWS and the GOP and now the leaders of the GOP don't know what to do!!! They feel like they have been suckered (LOL)

Who ever heard of two former Presidents not supporting or going to the Republican National Convention? Governors in Illinois and Missouri will not go neither.

The Republican Party right now is in a FLUX!!!


Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Sunday, May 15th 2016 at 8:35AM

Trump got the answer: “This is the United States government,” Trump said. “First of all, you never have to default because you print the money, I hate to tell you.”

Now trump spends all of his time with a racist butlers tweets of hanging the president along with Hillary. On Facebook, Trump's Longtime Butler Calls for Obama to Be Killed http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/0...

In 1991 he has posed as John miller to promote himself in fake phone calls and making what brought him to fame, you know, his policies was just a suggestion. Trump dogged by attack ads and fake phone calls: http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/trump-dogged...

Now the GOP is in the blind and don't know what to do with this clown.

This is the creation of FOX NEWS and the GOP and now the leaders of the GOP don't know what to do!!! They feel like they have been suckered (LOL)

Who ever heard of two former Presidents not supporting or going to the Republican National Convention? Gone Fishing: Republicans Skipping the GOP Convention http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/fishin...

Politics (USA) Mitt Romney Donald Trump Romney not going to GOP convention: https://www.veooz.com/news/hKrt1Nf.html

Many republicans skipping the convention: http://www.careersatquincy.com/story/31907...

Governors will not go neither.

The Republican Party right now is in a FLUX!!!

Steve Williams Sunday, May 15th 2016 at 1:09PM

That's a very good thing.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Sunday, May 15th 2016 at 4:13PM

And I hope the blue collar, middle class for Trump also see his policies don't work for them as well.

Steve Williams Sunday, May 15th 2016 at 6:01PM

How do you define blue color middle class?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Sunday, May 15th 2016 at 6:18PM

Steven,

I don't know what a blue color middle class is?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Sunday, May 15th 2016 at 8:39PM

Steven,

I don't know what a blue color middle class is?

Steve Williams Monday, May 16th 2016 at 1:07AM

When I hear a politician, such as Obama, focus on the middle class, it tells me they don't care about the poor and they have no plan to improve their lot.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Tuesday, May 17th 2016 at 4:20PM

Steven,

Ever since the Republicans gain control over The House and The Senate the GOP have engaged in opposition politics.

Steven, you asked the question: How do you define blue color middle class Sunday, May 15th 2016 at 6:01PM ?

I still have no idea what that is!



Steve Williams Tuesday, May 17th 2016 at 4:59PM

I don't either!

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Tuesday, May 17th 2016 at 5:08PM

WOW!!!

And you brought that question to the floor!!! (LOL)



Steve Williams Tuesday, May 17th 2016 at 5:29PM

Did you hear, Megyn and Donald have kissed and made up?

Steve Williams Tuesday, May 17th 2016 at 5:37PM

In English-speaking countries, a blue-collar worker is a working class person who performs manual labour. Blue-collar work may involve skilled or unskilled manufacturing, mining, sanitation, custodial work, oil field work, construction, mechanical maintenance, warehousing, firefighting, technical installation and many other types of physical work. Often something is physically being built or maintained.

Steve Williams Tuesday, May 17th 2016 at 5:41PM

You were the one who appealed to the blue collar middle class Ron.

robert powell Wednesday, May 18th 2016 at 8:04AM


SUBJECT

Wall Street: Trump's debt policy smacks of bankruptcy

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Steve Williams Wednesday, May 18th 2016 at 2:42PM

Thou shalt not covet.

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