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With No Evidence, Trump Claims 'Millions' Voted Illegally

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. · Monday, November 28th 2016 at 2:21PM · 2418 views
Politics Nov 28 2016, 8:05 am ET
With No Evidence, Trump Claims 'Millions' Voted Illegally
by Phil McCausland

President-elect Donald Trump tweeted a stream of thus-far baseless claims of voter fraud Sunday, indicating that the Hillary Clinton campaign's involvement in an election recount was hypocritical.

Trump, who himself suggested that he would not concede the election during the campaign if he had lost, used his Twitter account to declare that "nothing will change." He also reiterated that Clinton had already conceded the election.

Trump, however, also effectively offered his own support for the recount, providing a seemingly baseless allegation that he would have won the popular vote "if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally."
With No Evidence, Trump Claims 'Millions' Voted Illegally

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Steve Williams Monday, November 28th 2016 at 2:46PM

Sore losers are pathetic.

Steve Williams Monday, November 28th 2016 at 2:50PM

In my 40 years of voting I've never see anything so sad and sorry.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, November 28th 2016 at 5:28PM

Just hours after hammering Hillary Clinton for backing recount efforts in key swing states, President-elect Donald Trump claimed that he “won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally.” NBC’s Hallie Jackson reports for TODAY from Trump Tower in New York City.

I agree with you I nerve seen such acting's like Trump in over 45 years of voting.


Steve Williams Monday, November 28th 2016 at 5:39PM

That's not what I said Ron. I've never seen such a sad and sorry spectacle from you all is what I said.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, November 28th 2016 at 5:52PM

No Steven That is WHAT I SAID, DO YOU GET IT? THIS MAN HAS NO PROOF OF MILLIONS OF FRAUDULENT VOTERS.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, November 28th 2016 at 6:00PM

The Facts

This is very simple answer STEVEN THEIR IS NO EVIDENCE!!! This is a bogus claim of TRUMP has no documented proof OF MILLIONS OF FRAUDULENT VOTERS.

WOW!!!

Steve Williams Monday, November 28th 2016 at 6:17PM

When that racist of racists Jimmy Carter lost in 1980 there were no crybabies, nor in 1984, 1988, 2000 or 2004. You all are unique in American history Ron. Grow up.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, November 28th 2016 at 9:18PM

Now you want to jump in your way back Machine to try an change this subject quickly because you know for a FACT that TRUMP had LIED in his tweet of MILLIONS OF FRAUDULENT VOTERS.

Do you think that TRUMP realize that he is this country next president and what he says or tweets is heard or read around this world?

Do you really think he realize that he won the The presidency without The popular vote by about 2.5 million votes?

so now he wants to call that fraudulent voters and he got the popular vote. WOW!!! We are truly living in interesting times.

Steve Williams Monday, November 28th 2016 at 10:32PM

Of course there was widespread voter fraud! It's due to the liberal's favorite cause, voting by mail.

Steve Williams Monday, November 28th 2016 at 10:34PM

Don't be a hypocrite Ron. You nor the liberals have NO interest in election reform!

Steve Williams Monday, November 28th 2016 at 10:39PM

I gave you the PROOF before the election. I myself could have voted by mail in California, with no fear of being caught.

Steve Williams Monday, November 28th 2016 at 10:48PM

It's a shameful thing what you are doing Ron. Suck it up and tough it out and do the best you can. TRUMP WON.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, November 28th 2016 at 11:26PM

Of course there was widespread voter fraud! It's due to the liberal's favorite cause, voting by mail.

Why do you say that STEVEN?

Don't be a hypocrite Ron. You nor the liberals have NO interest in election reform!

You don't have a clue what I want, do you.

I gave you the PROOF before the election. I myself could have voted by mail in California, with no fear of being caught.

That is a lot of BULL and you know that. Who wants to go to jail for five years for FRAUDULENT VOTING outside of the poor little republican white lady who was a TRUMP SUPPORTER.

It's a shameful thing what you are doing Ron. Suck it up and tough it out and do the best you can. TRUMP WON.

Have you found any Evidence, OF Trump Claims 'Millions' Voted Illegally? By the way TRUMP is back on tweeter again tonight, trying to defend that which their is no EVIDENCE OF. TRUMP SOUNDS LIKE A SORE WINNER... (LOL) WOW!!!

THAT MAN LOSE SOMETHING...



Steve Williams Tuesday, November 29th 2016 at 7:52AM

There is no excuse for mail in voting. I went online and determined that I am still registered in California at my old address. All I would have had to do is request a mail in ballot. How would they have caught me Ron? They wouldn't have. Mail in voting should be banned, and for that matter early voting too.

Steve Williams Tuesday, November 29th 2016 at 7:57AM

If you cared about electoral reform you would have commented here Ron.
http://blackinamerica.com/content/299525/e...

agnes levine Tuesday, November 29th 2016 at 8:09AM


I believe I finally realize how my parents felt when Reagan was elected. It's like a real circus act or bad dream unfolding. Hopefully, the circus act will now end over who is more popular, etc. http://www.aol.com/article/news/2016/11/29...

God Bless you on today.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Tuesday, November 29th 2016 at 8:15AM

Listen to me and listen to me well Steven, I am not interested in committing VOTER FRAUD, GOT IT!!!!!!!!

There is no excuse for a president elect tweeting about, With No Evidence, Trump J TRUMP Claims 'Millions' Voted Illegally, Where is the beef?


Steve Williams Tuesday, November 29th 2016 at 8:53AM

This is just your latest tantrum Ron. Remember your tantrum when Trump said he'd wait for the results of the election before he'd decide whether to accept them or not? This is post election now, time to stop your childish tantrums.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Tuesday, November 29th 2016 at 10:25AM

Steven, Here's Why we can’t — and shouldn’t — ignore Donald Trump’s tweets. For the second time in two weekends, President-elect Donald Trump stirred controversy, bigly, using only his thumbs.

With a trio of tweets Sunday alleging millions of fraudulent votes and "serious" fraud in three states, Trump effectively hijacked the news cycle for the next 24 hours with baseless conspiracy theories. A week prior, it was Trump's tweets demanding an apology from the cast of "Hamilton" for disrespecting Vice President-elect Mike Pence, who was in the audience the previous night.

See this man is Undergirding the idea that Trump's tweets shouldn't be big news is the theory that he's manipulating the media into focusing on small things to cover up less s*xy but more important things — conflicts of interests and possible corruption, in particular.

You see Steven, this latest tweetstorm, and it's likely to perk up again after Trump on Tuesday morning suggested revoking the citizenship or jailing of people who burn the American flag. Now although I don't like people who burn the American flag but I don't believe that they should be put in jail for it neither.

The thing that this man is doing, is covering up from his recent controversial team picks, a few of them have been rejected at the local level for there views and running government agency stills, now under this incoming administration, will be given the privilege of having a promotion.

This is what some people call the great cover-up of 2016.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Tuesday, November 29th 2016 at 10:41AM

Sister Levine, I know exactly what you mean. I am looking for some rights to be taken away from the people, like gutting of the Civil Rights Act, The Voting Rights Act, Medicare and Medicate, Social Security Benefits, Public Education, Higher taxes and a few more that will effect the lower and middle classes of people, to be cut by this incoming administration.

Now these recent tweets are just something to pull the American people and press off topic to what that man is putting into place.

KEEP YOUR EYE'S OPEN FOR MORE...

Steve Williams Tuesday, November 29th 2016 at 11:59AM

He's yanking you all's chain Ron. It's funny. His appointments are flawless.

Steve Williams Tuesday, November 29th 2016 at 12:01PM

No way has Trump forgotten nor forgiven the LUGENPRESSE.

Steve Williams Tuesday, November 29th 2016 at 12:12PM

The Flag Desecration Amendment (often referred to as the Flag-burning Amendment) is an American proposed law, in the form of constitutional amendment to the Bill of Rights, that would allow the U.S. Congress to prohibit by statute the physical "desecration" of the flag of the United States. The concept of flag desecration continues to provoke a heated debate over protecting a national symbol, preserving free speech, and upholding the liberty said to be represented by that national symbol.

While the proposed amendment is frequently referred to colloquially in terms of expression of political views through "flag burning," the language would permit the prohibition of all forms of flag desecration, which may take forms other than burning, such as using the flag for clothing or napkins.

The most recent attempt to adopt a flag desecration amendment failed in the United States Senate by one vote on June 27, 2006.[1][2]

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Tuesday, November 29th 2016 at 5:19PM

Great information on The Flag Desecration Amendment but The Supreme Court has ruled Flag Burning is protected by the 1st Amendment period.

In the last few hours Gingrich has calls Trump tweet about vote fraud a big mistake. Former House speaker Newt Gingrich calls Donald Trump a potentially transformative president. But he shouldn't have sent out that false tweet alleging election fraud.

"In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide," Trump wrote, "I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally." "It makes you wonder about whatever else he's doing. It undermines much more than a single tweet." --- Newt Gingrich



Steve Williams Tuesday, November 29th 2016 at 9:47PM

Ron, a constitutional amendment woud supercede the court's ruling. As for Newt, if you watched Fox you'd hear him directly rather than through the filter of MSNBC.

Steve Williams Tuesday, November 29th 2016 at 9:50PM

Speaking of tweets, what does MSNBC say about that dope Kaine's tweet decrying gun violence at OSU?

Steve Williams Tuesday, November 29th 2016 at 9:52PM

"Deeply saddened by the senseless act of gun violence at Ohio State this morning. Praying for the injured and the entire Buckeye community"

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Wednesday, November 30th 2016 at 11:14AM

YOUR WORDS: Ron, a constitutional amendment woud supercede the court's ruling. I see that you are little premature in this case, it takes 2/3nd of the states to sent for ratification of The Constitution, STEVEN flag burning is still protected by the 1st Amendment which is the LAW OF THE LAND TO THIS VEREY DAY.

YOUR WORDS: Speaking of tweets, what does MSNBC say about that dope Kaine's tweet decrying gun violence at OSU?

I am not aware about any tweets from that dope Kaine's tweet decrying gun violence at OSU?

This blog is focus our attention on TRUMP'S tweets, that he tweeted With No Evidence, Trump Claims 'Millions' Voted Illegally. Now this blog is a few days old now, have you seen any evidence that TRUMP was correct in his actions that MILLIONS VOTED ILLEGALLY?

If not, what is your point?



Steve Williams Wednesday, November 30th 2016 at 2:53PM

There is a ton of evidence Ron. Illegals can vote in 11 states.

Steve Williams Wednesday, November 30th 2016 at 2:58PM


A number of U.S. states offer undocumented immigrants some form of a drivers' license. The exact terms vary by state.

As of this writing in 2016, a total of 12 states plus the District of Columbia allow undocumented immigrants to obtain a driver’s license. These 12 states include California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, New Mexico, Nevada, Utah, Vermont and Washington.

http://immigration.lawyers.com/citizenship...

Steve Williams Wednesday, November 30th 2016 at 3:10PM

What You Will Need
To register online you will need

Your California driver license or California identification card number,
The last four digits of your social security number and
Your date of birth.
Your information will be provided to the California Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) to retrieve a copy of your DMV signature.

http://registertovote.ca.gov

Steve Williams Wednesday, November 30th 2016 at 3:33PM

In a March 12 letter, Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) had asked SSA: “How many individuals have applied for SSNs as a result of the June 15, 2012, memorandum issued by Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano entitled ‘Exercising Prosecutorial Discretion with Respect to Individuals Who Came to the United States as Children'?”

(See SSA Letter.pdf)

“By the end of fiscal year (FY) 2014, we had issued approximately 541,000 original SSNs to individuals authorized to work under the 2012 Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) policy since its inception,” Colvin said in her April 10 response.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/barbar...

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Wednesday, November 30th 2016 at 10:09PM

Steven you said: There is a ton of evidence Ron. Illegals can vote in 11 states.
Wednesday, November 30th 2016 at 2:53PM

Some Five minutes later, Then you started talking about, A number of U.S. states offer undocumented immigrants some form of a drivers' license. The exact terms vary by state. Wednesday, November 30th 2016 at 2:58PM then you leave this link that basically said: This leaves undocumented immigrants who have settled in the U.S. with a difficult choice: meeting their daily needs or risking arrest for driving without a license. A driver’s license also makes a convenient identity document (ID) with which to obtain many essential services and benefits.

On Wednesday, November 30th 2016 at 3:10PM the same day you add to this blog: What You Will Need
To register online you will need

Your California driver license or California identification card number,
The last four digits of your social security number and
Your date of birth.
Your information will be provided to the California Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) to retrieve a copy of your DMV signature.

Do undocumented immigrants have a United States birth certificate, social security card or numbers?

Wait a minute On Wednesday, November 30th 2016 at 3:33PM then you started talking about The Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals as your evidence of 'Millions' Voted Illegally"

IIIII SEEEEE!!!!!







Steve Williams Thursday, December 1st 2016 at 4:48AM

Corruption is rife in California. That's my evidence Ron.

Steve Williams Thursday, December 1st 2016 at 4:51AM

And Pelosi has a spring in her step.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, December 1st 2016 at 8:07AM

WHY DO YOU ACT LIKE I DID NOT ASK YOU A QUESTION?

YOU CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION, CAN YOU?

With No Evidence, Trump Claims 'Millions' Voted Illegally

Steve Williams Thursday, December 1st 2016 at 8:27AM

We know there are millions of illegals in America. The Democrats love it. We know there are millions of people on voter rolls they don't belong on. The Democrats love it. That's my evidence.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, December 1st 2016 at 10:46AM

WHF are you talking about now? So what that there are millions of illegals in America, Where is the evidence Trump is talking about?

STEVEN!!! WHERE IS THE BEEF?

Steve Williams Thursday, December 1st 2016 at 2:09PM

Get your panties out of a bunch Ron.

Steve Williams Thursday, December 1st 2016 at 2:12PM

Illegals are illegal. Of course the will do all kinds of illegal things, including illegal social security numbers, illegal claims to welfare, illegal education, illegal drivers licenses, and ILLEGAL VOTING. And you Democrats LOVE it.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, December 1st 2016 at 2:21PM

Were is your proof that ILLEGALS HAVE VOTED IN THIS ELECTION? Can you show me that proof on your next reply?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, December 1st 2016 at 2:32PM

Claims of wide-scale voter fraud have been advanced for years, this is a old trick used by The Republican Party, through the many years, though virtually no evidence of such improprieties has been discovered — especially on the scale of “millions” that Mr. Trump claimed.

Late on Sunday, again without providing evidence, he referred in a Twitter post to “serious voter fraud in Virginia, New Hampshire and California.” the key words to what TRUMP tweeted was "PROVIDING NO EVIDENCE."

Steve Williams Thursday, December 1st 2016 at 5:19PM

The evidence is human nature Ron. If people CAN do something illegal, they WILL.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, December 1st 2016 at 6:00PM

WOW!!! Are you telling me, is this what Trump was doing? Trumps evidence is "HUMAN NATURE!!!" WOW... You really don't have any evidence but talk, just like I thought. WOW!!!



Steve Williams Thursday, December 1st 2016 at 9:38PM

Don't put words in Trump's mouth Ron. What I said is MY evidence, from 30+ years as a California resident.

Steve Williams Thursday, December 1st 2016 at 9:45PM

What they say about you all is correct, you are a coastal party. Long live the electoral college. Hail Trump!

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, December 1st 2016 at 10:07PM

Since you have no proof but "HUMAN NATURE, then you have "NO PROOF AT ALL" of anything you have said on this subject.

WOW!!!

Steve Williams Thursday, December 1st 2016 at 11:12PM

The only proof you need Ron is an MSNBC video.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, December 2nd 2016 at 9:59AM

The only proof I need is what made Trump tweet that BULL💩 Without any evidence and you can't defend his actions, I know because you tried. (LOL)

Steve Williams Friday, December 2nd 2016 at 12:16PM

You know, just to be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right? The racist, s*xist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic — you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up. He has given voice to their websites that used to only have 11,000 people, now have 11 million. He tweets and retweets offensive, hateful, mean-spirited rhetoric. Now some of those folks, they are irredeemable. But thankfully they are not America.

That's 30 millions of us Ron, as it turns out. Where's the proof? LOL.

Steve Williams Friday, December 2nd 2016 at 12:26PM

JENNIFER PALMIERI, CLINTON CAMPAIGN COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR: If providing a platform for white supremacists makes me a brilliant tactician I am glad to have laws. [interruption] Give me a minute. I am more proud of Hillary Clinton's alt-right speech than any other moment on the campaign trail.

CONWAY: Wow.

PALMIERI: She had the courage to stand up. I would rather lose than win the way you guys did.

CONWAY: No you wouldn't. No you wouldn't.

PALMIERI: Yes, yes.

CONWAY: That's very clear today. No you wouldn't. I'm sorry, how exactly did we win? No, go for it, Jen. How exactly did we win? I'd like to know because I sacrificed the last four months of my life to do it, excuse me, and we did it. And we did it by looking at the schedule and, yes, the electoral map of 270 because that is how you win the presidency. And we went into places where we were either ignored or mocked roundly by most of the people in this room. I have a smile on my fact at all times. And we did it by focusing with Steve Bannon and David Bossie and everybody you see here. They're going to go, 'she just said Corey [Lewandowski] was part of the campaign. Jeff Zucker! Okay, Corey, can tell, whatever, what was that, June? (ed. note: Conway was referring to Lewandowski's post-campaign employment at CNN) And we focused on how to win. We connected with voters. We connected with voters.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/201...

Steve Williams Friday, December 2nd 2016 at 12:33PM

CONWAY: Excuse me, she said white supremacist... Do you think I ran a campaign where white supremacists had a platform? Are you going to look me in the face and tell me that?

PALMIERI: It did. Kellyanne, it did.

CONWAY: Oh, that's how you lost?

PALMIERI: It did!

CONWAY: Do you think you could have just had a decent message for the white working class voters? Do you think this woman who has nothing in common with anybody --

PALMIERI: I'm not saying that's how you won but that's the campaign that was run, yes.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, December 2nd 2016 at 1:10PM

This blog is not about JENNIFER PALMIERI or CONWAY STEVEN!!! I know that you feel for a lost of words because of Trump's BULL💩 tweets of With No Evidence, Trump Claims 'Millions' Voted Illegally!!!!

So now you are just throwing anything up against the wall, just to see if anything will stick!!!!

I see the TRUMP has moved on but you are still stuck with something TRUMP knows was BULL💩, just to hide criticism of his team picks and you can't see that Steven?

GET OVER IT STEVEN, YOU HAVE BEEN CONNED BY TRUMP!!!! MOVE ON WITH YOUR EYE'S OPEN BECAUSE HE WILL EFFECT ALL OF THE LOWER AND MIDDLE CLASSES IN AMERICA.

.

Steve Williams Friday, December 2nd 2016 at 1:54PM

That's me Ron, lower class. I couldn't be happier.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, December 2nd 2016 at 9:37PM

WOW!!! You couldn't be happier that you could not find any evidence to why TRUMP tweeted that LIE that Trump Claims 'Millions' Voted Illegally. WOW!!!

Steve Williams Friday, December 2nd 2016 at 9:43PM

And you Ron have no evidence 30 millions of us are white supremacists.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, December 2nd 2016 at 9:56PM

STEVEN, this blog is not about 30 millions of us are white supremacists, is it?

GET OVER IT STEVEN, YOU HAVE BEEN CONNED BY TRUMP!!!! MOVE ON WITH YOUR EYE'S OPEN BECAUSE HE WILL EFFECT ALL OF THE LOWER AND MIDDLE CLASSES IN AMERICA.

Steve Williams Friday, December 2nd 2016 at 10:00PM

How disgusting that Palmieri is still pushing that narrative.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, December 2nd 2016 at 10:10PM

This subject is not about anything that Palmieri is still pushing. This subject about With No Evidence, Trump Claims 'Millions' Voted Illegally. Have you found any evidence YET, STEVEN?

I think TRUMP moved on to tell his followers other LIES.





Steve Williams Saturday, December 3rd 2016 at 7:10AM

Palmieri is still pushing "we won the popular vote" as well as "the white supremacists elected Trump."

Steve Williams Saturday, December 3rd 2016 at 7:34AM

Two weeks after Election Day, Hillary Clinton leads President-elect Donald Trump by 1.75 million votes. Despite Clinton's popular vote lead, Trump will move into the White House because he won the Electoral College.

Clinton's margin will grow in the coming weeks — mostly because of California, where there are still more than 2 million unprocessed ballots.

So why does it take California so long to count the votes?

Well, for one thing, blame coffee.

"Coffee stains look just like an oval mark," says Sacramento County Assistant Registrar of Voters Alice Jarboe. "So we have to remove all those coffee stains."

Yes, it seems at least some Californians like to fill out their vote-by-mail ballots over breakfast.

And it gets worse: jam and jelly.

"We do find those on the ballot," Jarboe says. "Those gum up our vote counting machines, so we will remake those ballots."

Remaking a ballot doesn't happen quickly. Two election workers pair up to copy the votes from the damaged ballot onto an unmarked duplicate.

"One person will call, the other person will mark," Jarboe says. "And then they'll double-check their work to make sure that the calling and the marking compares."

http://www.npr.org/2016/11/22/503052632/tw...

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Saturday, December 3rd 2016 at 9:30AM

So what STEVEN, you sound like a sore winner. TRUMP HAS NO MANDATE FROM THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. GET OVER IT STEVEN, YOU HAVE BEEN CONNED BY TRUMP!!!! MOVE ON WITH YOUR EYE'S OPEN BECAUSE HE WILL STILL EFFECT ALL OF THE LOWER AND MIDDLE CLASSES IN AMERICA.


Steve Williams Saturday, December 3rd 2016 at 4:30PM

Trump does have a mandate Ron. Get used to it.

Steve Williams Saturday, December 3rd 2016 at 4:33PM

Three-hunded six votes. Unless the electors listen to that dumb-ass petition, fat chance. Save the date, December 19.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Saturday, December 3rd 2016 at 5:22PM

306 is the electors votes which makes Trump the President elect but some 2.5 million Americans voters did not vote for Trump in the popular election. That is not a "MANDATE " for Trump.



Steve Williams Saturday, December 3rd 2016 at 7:31PM

Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Florida, etc. etc. That's a mandate.

Steve Williams Sunday, December 4th 2016 at 2:11AM

Other times, Jarboe says, there's a slightly quicker fix involving white-out tape: "We will take that white-out tape and white over the problem ovals — the voter crossed out the oval, and said 'No not this one, this one' — we'll cross out the one they didn't want; we'll white that out; and then a star stamp next to it. The star stamp is everybody's indication that we touched that ballot and we corrected it in some way."

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Sunday, December 4th 2016 at 12:15PM

Sorry but nationwide Clinton has registered 64,654,483 total votes, compared to 62,418,820 for Trump, according to a Cook Political Report analysis Monday. That represents a margin of 2,235,663 in the popular vote. Clinton garnered 48.2 percent of the popular vote, while Trump earned just 46.5 percent, good for a 1.7 point margin. Trump, however, picked up wins in key battleground states like Florida, Pennsylvania and Michigan, earning 306 Electoral College votes to Clinton's 232. 

Clinton 64,654,483 total votes
TRUMP 62,418,820 total votes

That represents a margin of 2,235,663 in the popular vote for Clinton and not a MANDATE FROM THE NATION FOR TRUMP. DO THE MATH STEVEN...

THIS IS EVIDENCE YOU CAN COUNT....

Steve Williams Sunday, December 4th 2016 at 2:50PM

They CHANGED millions of votes in California alone Ron. Coffee stains, jam and jelly, xed out ovals... And guess what? TRUMP IS PRESIDENT! Whaa whaa whaa.

Steve Williams Sunday, December 4th 2016 at 2:52PM

It's a busy news day eh? Take a valium is my advice.

Steve Williams Sunday, December 4th 2016 at 2:57PM

... or three.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Sunday, December 4th 2016 at 3:14PM

Where is the evidence of Trump Claims 'Millions' Voted Illegally? You have not produce that evidence, why?

YOU CANT DEFEND A LIER STEVEN... THE EVIDENCE IS NOT THERE!!!!



Steve Williams Sunday, December 4th 2016 at 6:18PM

I wonder why Jill Stein isn't recounting the votes in California?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Sunday, December 4th 2016 at 7:08PM

Good question!!! Did you find any evidence yet about trumps wild tweet?

Steve Williams Monday, December 5th 2016 at 2:06AM

She's not counting votes in California because she's in denial, like you Ron.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, December 5th 2016 at 7:42AM

No Steven, I know who will be the next president and I know who got the popular vote. By the way Steven, Did you find any evidence yet about trumps wild tweets, saying: With No Evidence, Trump Claims 'Millions' Voted Illegally?

You won't find any STEVEN, their is NONE!!!!


Steve Williams Monday, December 5th 2016 at 11:33AM

You have two blogs on the same subject Ron, I'll answer on your new one.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, December 5th 2016 at 7:14PM

It makes no difference STEVEN because you will not answer any of my questions, LIKE: "Did you find any evidence yet about trumps wild tweet?"

Stick with this one, OK?





Steve Williams Monday, December 5th 2016 at 7:54PM

The fact you have two blogs on the same subject raises suspicion whether you want an honest discussion.

Steve Williams Monday, December 5th 2016 at 7:58PM

And you still have not had the courage to come to my blog on election reform.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, December 5th 2016 at 10:43PM

Steven, you can't provide proof on this or the other one about "With No Evidence, Trump Claims 'Millions' Voted Illegally."

TRUMP MADE THIS WILD CLAIM WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE OF THESE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL VOTERS?

STEVEN, AND YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PROOF NIETHER. FACE IT, YOU HAVE NOTHING SINCE HE TWEETED THAT BULL BACK ON NOV 28 2016 SOME SEVEN DAYS AGO NOW...

CAN'T YOU SEE THAT YOU HAVE BEEN CONNED BY TRUMP AND COMPANY.... WOW!!!



Steve Williams Tuesday, December 6th 2016 at 7:14AM

I gave you evidence Ron. A voting system that can be exploited, such as mail in ballots, will be exploited. The people in Sacramento are changing these ballots. Didn't you read the article I gave you?

Steve Williams Tuesday, December 6th 2016 at 7:24AM

Hillary Clinton's Popular Vote Lead Is 1.7 Million And Growing. Here's Why

http://www.npr.org/2016/11/22/503052632/tw...

Steve Williams Tuesday, December 6th 2016 at 7:37AM

Election results are updated as often as new data is received from county elections offices after the polls close at 8:00 p.m. on Election Day. Many ballots are counted after Election Day. County elections officials have approximately one month to complete their extensive tallying, auditing, and certification work. Final certified results are due to the Secretary of State for presidential electors on December 6, 2016, and all other state contests on December 9, 2016. The Secretary of State will certify the statewide results by December 16, 2016.

http://vote.sos.ca.gov

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Tuesday, December 6th 2016 at 10:30AM

Don't you see that Clinton popular vote is growing and not TRUMP'S?

Still, this is not EVIDENCE of MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL VOTERS.

STEVEN, WHEN YOU FIND SUCH EVIDENCE OF MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL VOTERS, COME ON BACK, OK!!!!



Steve Williams Tuesday, December 6th 2016 at 10:56AM

The Clinton popular vote isn't worth a hill of beans. Jill Stein should be looking at California where voting corruption is rampant.

Steve Williams Tuesday, December 6th 2016 at 10:57AM

In law, it's called circumstantial evidence.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Tuesday, December 6th 2016 at 11:36AM

STEVEN, STEVEN, STEVEN circumstantial evidence!!!

Here's the difference between Circumstantial evidence and evidence that relies on an inference to connect it to a conclusion of fact—like a fingerprint at the scene of a crime.

Now here's what is called "DIRECT EVIDENCE," evidence supports the truth of an assertion directly—i.e., without need for any additional evidence or inference.

Let us look at the KEY WORD: "Circumstantial"

(of evidence or a legal case) pointing indirectly toward someone's guilt but not conclusively proving it. I like to highlight the word "INDIRECTLY"


Until you can bring me some direct proof of Millions of AMERICAN'S ILLEGALLY VOTING IN THIS ELECTION, I consider this case CLOSED.

Steve Williams Tuesday, December 6th 2016 at 12:12PM

Me too Ron. Good luck with your national popular vote initiative. It will need two-thirds of the states to ratify it.

Steve Williams Tuesday, December 6th 2016 at 12:20PM

Last Tuesday, Republicans made historic gains in the nation’s state legislatures. The GOP now controls 68 out of 98 partisan state legislative chambers -- the highest number in the history of the party. Republicans currently hold the governorship and both houses of the legislature in 23 states (24 if Sean Parnell wins re-election in Alaska), while Democrats have that level of control in only seven.

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Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Tuesday, December 6th 2016 at 5:46PM

You Don't get it, if you want to keep changing the topic, means no have no evidence on this subject so🖐🏾...

Steve Williams Tuesday, December 6th 2016 at 6:46PM

I get it Ron. It's this nonsense that somehow Hillary won even though she lost, that resulted in Trump's tweet. Like I said in my first comment, sore losers are pathetic.

Steve Williams Tuesday, December 6th 2016 at 6:49PM

Will you accept the result?
http://blackinamerica.com/content/299241/w...

Steve Williams Tuesday, December 6th 2016 at 6:57PM

See Ron, I did have an action plan if Hillary won, and it included no whining or complaining.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Wednesday, December 7th 2016 at 10:09AM

I am not contesting who won Steven, that is your point.

This blog is and always been about: "With No Evidence, Trump Claims 'Millions' Voted Illegally" WHERE IS THE PROOF OF THAT WILD CLAIM?

Don't try to divert the topic because I can see that you have no proof yet...

Steve Williams Wednesday, December 7th 2016 at 11:43AM

Of course you are contesting who won Ron. Look at your posts.

Steve Williams Wednesday, December 7th 2016 at 11:50AM

It's what you like to call "DIRECT EVIDENCE".

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Wednesday, December 7th 2016 at 4:05PM

TRUMP WON... And you have been CONNED to believe that there might be a shred of evidence to his wild tweet of "With No Evidence, Trump Claims 'Millions' Voted Illegally."

Steve Williams Wednesday, December 7th 2016 at 4:19PM

Joe Piscopo said it best. "Tweet on Brother!"

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Wednesday, December 7th 2016 at 7:51PM

That's Right... "LIE TO THE PEOPLE..."

robert powell Wednesday, December 7th 2016 at 8:31PM


With No Evidence, Trump Claims 'Millions' Voted Illegally

subject

trump$ette is presidentElect of USA.....2017-2021

......his LYIN and Money making may get him Impeached...but he has BILLIONS $$$$....he knows who VOTED....

BUT.....for the 'blackDeaconGray'.....STOP this trump$ette FAKE NEWS that you put out everyday>.....

..."....That's Right... "LIE TO THE PEOPLE..."

Wednesday, December 7th 2016 at 7:51PM
Deacon Ron Gray

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and I agree that YOU, personally are a LIAR....WITH NO PROOF of anything you write on these blags.....


Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, December 8th 2016 at 8:36AM

Robert,

You have been conned too.

I challenge you to find the evidence that TRUMP was right by this statement: "With No Evidence, Trump Claims 'Millions' Voted Illegally."

Where is "THE BEEF?"

robert powell Friday, December 9th 2016 at 8:13AM


right by this statement: "With No Evidence, Trump Claims 'Millions' Voted Illegally."

Where is "THE BEEF?"

Thursday, December 8th 2016 at 8:36AM
Deacon Ron Gray

Great Robert but you never did answer my questions, did you take a look at this?

HERE... TAKE A LOOK: ISIS Magazine Promotes Slavery, Rape, and Murder of Civilians in God's Name Charmers, these people. http://blackinamerica.com/cgi-bin/blog.cgi...
Wednesday, December 7th 2016 at 8:33PM
Deacon Ron Gray

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most every SUBJECT... YOU have Written at BIA is Pasted FAKE NEWS.....NO BEEF

most every SUBJECT... YOU have Written at BIA is racistIgnorance .....NO BEEF

most every SUBJECT... YOU have Written at BIA is Eurocentric .....NO BEEF

In fact; most every SUBJECT... YOU have Written at BIA is FISHY with ....NO BEEF

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, December 9th 2016 at 9:44AM

Did you watch this material?

I challenge you to find the evidence that TRUMP was right by this statement: "With No Evidence, Trump Claims 'Millions' Voted Illegally."

I see that you can't find any evidence of Trump Claims 'Millions' Voted Illegally, did you?

I see that all you have done is brought back more BULL💩 and NO PROOF OR No Evidence, Trump Claims 'Millions' Voted Illegally.

SIT DOWN, SHUT UP AND GET OUT OF MY WAY....

YOU CAN'T PROOF A LIE.... STOP TRYING....


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