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Putin personally involved in U.S. election hack

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. · Sunday, December 18th 2016 at 8:30AM · 1193 views
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Putin personally involved in U.S. election hack

Joy Reid and her panel discuss the consensus that Putin influenced our election in favor of Donald Trump, in part due to a vendetta against Hillary Clinton, and the parallels and connections between the two men. Duration: 15:00
Putin personally involved in U.S. election hack

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Steve Williams Sunday, December 18th 2016 at 8:51AM

So what's the background on Putin's alleged vendetta?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Sunday, December 18th 2016 at 9:01AM

First of all Steven, did you see this video?

Steve Williams Sunday, December 18th 2016 at 9:18AM

I saw the video Ron, and you know as well as I that they didn't address the question I just asked you.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Sunday, December 18th 2016 at 3:08PM

Please Steven, your short term memory is shot. Within the first one minute and twenty five seconds spelled out the vendetta between Vladimir Putin had for Hillary Clinton. That may well be, why he became personally involved on how the democratic material would be use as a vendetta against Hillary Clinton.

Now that the FBI has joined the CIA and the other 17 other Information gathering departments agree that Russia was involved in influencing The United States Presidential elections.

STEVEN, have you asked yourself WHY PUTIN wonted Donald to win the presidency?

Have you asked yourself, WHY Donald is ignoring the findings of all 17 intelligent agencies that now agree that Russia - Putin did help the donald win the presidency?

Steve Williams Sunday, December 18th 2016 at 6:14PM

She said "part of a vendetta." That's not background Ron, try again.

Steve Williams Sunday, December 18th 2016 at 6:19PM

The 2011–13 Russian protests (which some English language media referred to as the Snow Revolution)[14] began in 2011 (as protests against the 2011 Russian legislative election results) and continued into 2012 and 2013. The protests were motivated by claims by Russian and foreign journalists, political activists and members of the public that the election process was flawed.[15] The Central Election Commission of Russia stated that only 11.5% of official reports of fraud could be confirmed as true.[16]

On 10 December 2011, after a week of small-scale demonstrations, Russia saw some of the biggest protests in Moscow since the 1990s. The focus of the protests have been the ruling party, United Russia, and its leader Vladimir Putin, the current president, previous prime minister, and previous two-term president, who announced his intention to run again for President in 2012. Another round of large protests took place on 24 December 2011. These protests were named "For Fair Elections" (Russian: За честные выборы) and their organizers set up the movement of the same name. By this time, the "For Fair Elections" protesters had coalesced into five main points: freedom for political prisoners; annulment of the election results; the resignation of Vladimir Churov (head of the election commission) and the opening of an official investigation into vote fraud; registration of opposition parties and new democratic legislation on parties and elections, as well as new democratic and open elections.[17]

Initial protest actions, organized by the leaders of the Russian opposition parties and non-systemic opposition sparked fear in some quarters of a colour revolution in Russia, and a number of counter-protests and rallies in support of the government were held. On the first days following the election, Putin and United Russia were supported by rallies of the youth organisations Nashi and Young Guard. On 24 December Sergey Kurginyan organised the first protest against what was viewed as "orange" protesters in Moscow, though the protest also supported the slogan "For Fair Elections".[18] On 4 February 2012, more protests and pro-government rallies were held throughout the country. The largest two events were in Moscow: the "anti-Orange protest"[19] (alluding to the Orange Revolution in Ukraine, the most widely known color revolution to Russians), aimed against "orangism", "collapse of the country", "perestroika" and "revolution",[20] the largest protest action of all the protests so far according to the police;[9][20][21] and another "For Fair Elections" protest, larger than the previous ones according to the police.[20][22]

On 6 May 2012, protests took place in Moscow the day before Putin's inauguration as President for his third term. Some called for the inauguration to be scrapped. The protests were marred by violence between the protesters and the police. About 400 protesters were arrested, including Alexei Navalny, Boris Nemtsov and Sergei Udaltsov[23][24] and 80 were injured.[25] On the day of the inauguration, 7 May, at least 120 protesters were arrested in Moscow.[25]

In June 2012, laws were enacted which set strict boundaries on protests and imposed heavy penalties for unauthorized actions. As of January 2013, interviews by Ellen Barry of The New York Times of working class elements which had supported the protests revealed an atmosphere of intimidation, discouragement, and alienation.[26]

Steve Williams Sunday, December 18th 2016 at 6:41PM


Russia Prime Minister Vladimir Putin said that Hillary Clinton "set the tone for some opposition activists" to act "in accordance with a well-known scenario and in their own mercenary political interests our people do not want the situation in Russia to develop like it was in Kyrgyzstan or not so long ago in Ukraine."[192][193] Putin's spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said on 12 December that, "Even if you add up all this so-called evidence, it accounts for just over 0.5 percent of the total number of votes. So even if hypothetically you recognise that they are being contested in court, then in any case, this can in no way affect the question of the vote's legitimacy or the overall results."[189] On 15 December 2011, Putin claimed that the organizers of the protests were former (Russian) advisors to former Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko during his presidency who were transferring the Orange Revolution to Russia;[194] he also claimed some organizers were paid by "foreign powers".[195]

On 27 December 2011 Putin reassigned Vladislav Surkov to the task of advancing Russia's modernization and development efforts; he remains a deputy prime minister but will no longer oversee Russia's political processes. Putin suggested that a dialogue with the protestors on the internet might be productive, but while upholding the right of the protestors to protest, criticized them for lack of direction and lack of a program relevant to Russia's development, comparing them to "Brownian motion, going every which way.[196]

Steve Williams Sunday, December 18th 2016 at 6:42PM

President Barack Obama's second White House Press Secretary, said that anti-government protests in Russia are a "positive sign" for democracy in the country.[200]

Steve Williams Sunday, December 18th 2016 at 6:56PM

MOSCOW — Prime Minister Vladimir V. Putin accused Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton on Thursday of inciting unrest in Russia, as he grappled with the prospect of large-scale political protest for the first time in his more than decade-long rule.

In a rare personal accusation, Mr. Putin said Mrs. Clinton had sent “a signal” to “some actors in our country” after Sunday’s parliamentary elections, which were condemned as fraudulent by both international and Russian observers. Anger over the elections prompted a demonstration in which thousands chanted “Putin is a thief” and “Russia without Putin,” a development that has deeply unnerved the Kremlin.

Speaking to political allies as he announced the formation of his presidential campaign, Mr. Putin said that hundreds of millions of dollars in “foreign money” was being used to influence Russian politics, and that Mrs. Clinton had personally spurred protesters to action. The comments indicate a breakdown in the Obama administration’s sputtering effort to “reset” the relationship between the United States and Russia.

“I looked at the first reaction of our U.S. partners,” Mr. Putin said. “The first thing that the secretary of state did was say that they were not honest and not fair, but she had not even yet received the material from the observers.”

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2011/12/09/world...

Steve Williams Sunday, December 18th 2016 at 7:29PM

Mr. Putin’s assertion that Mrs. Clinton had prejudged Sunday’s vote seemed unfounded. Her first remarks were made on Monday, after a scathing preliminary report was released by monitors from the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe. The observers documented deep structural problems as well as blatant stuffing of ballot boxes, in some cases in plain sight.

Mrs. Clinton, traveling in Europe, did not address Mr. Putin directly on Thursday and said Washington valued the bilateral relationship.

“At the same time, the United States and many others around the world have a strong commitment to democracy and human rights,” she continued. “It’s part of who we are. It’s our values. And we expressed concerns that we thought were well founded about the conduct of the elections. And we are supportive of the rights and aspirations of the Russian people to be able to make progress and to realize a better future for themselves, and we hope to see that unfold in the years ahead.”

The White House on Thursday reiterated its concerns. “When rights are violated in Russia or another country, we speak out,” said Jay Carney, the White House press secretary.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Sunday, December 18th 2016 at 8:27PM

So, you are pointing to Putin got Clinton back for, In a rare personal accusation, Mr. Putin said Mrs. Clinton had sent “a signal” to “some actors in our country” after Sunday’s parliamentary elections, which were condemned as fraudulent by both international and Russian observers.

Steven, this report says that Clinton make some accusations to some actors of a corrupt election in Russia so, that makes Putin right to hack into our government computers, is that right?



Steve Williams Monday, December 19th 2016 at 8:23AM

As the Good Book says Ron, those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, December 19th 2016 at 10:17AM

Steven, I did not asked you about a glass house, the question was:

"Steven, this report says that Clinton make some accusations to some actors of a corrupt election in Russia so, that makes Putin right to hack into our government computers, is that right?"

Steve Williams Monday, December 19th 2016 at 5:43PM

As the Good Book says Ron, so as ye sow, so shall ye reap.

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