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Morning Joe 1/12/18
Heilemann: Trump's long-term impact on GOP is bleak

The panel discusses President Trump's disparaging remarks about Haiti, his overt racism, the lack of repudiation from the Republican Party and the impact Trump is having on the GOP. Duration: 7:01
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Heilemann: Trump's long-term impact on GOP is bleak

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trump$ette is the GOP of his Father and has been impacting America since 1960-1965..Civil Rights ERA

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------- this heilemannPastee of 'blackHebrewIsraelite' is and ALWAYS is WRONG..my opinion.....

John Arthur Heilemann Born: Jan 23, 1966 (age 51)

.....is an American journalist and national-affairs analyst for NBC News and MSNBC.

deacon---

1. this blag is why BIA, of Mrs. Soledad was FORMED

2. this blag is why BIA, Preamble states BIA is not a NEWS cnnMSNBCfox org.

3. this blag is why BIA, Preamble states BIA members SHOULD shatterDestroy old Misconceptions....

4. BIA is NOT your network to PASTE 'whiteSupremist' FAKE, False newsOPINIONS!

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heilemann was NOT born 1960-1965 when The REPUBLICAN/DEMOCRATIC PARTY CHANGED

heilemann was NOT born 1960-1965 when The REPUBLICAN Party EMBRACED the dixieDemocraticParty

heilemann was NOT born 1960-1965 when the dixieDemocraticParty of jimCrow, Segregation RACISM

-------------was cast OFF by Democratic Party and EMBRACED by the REPUBLICAN PARTY

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heilimann and his OPINION.....is NONSENSE....without Historical Truthfullness

heilimann is an UNINFORMED bigot...............a bleeding heart raciallyIgnorant writer.....

--please STOP your Pasting of Uniformed/Uneducated antiAfricanAmerican Family,

'whiteSupremist' OPINIONS .....or is that 'whiteHebrewIsraelite' OPINIONS.....



Sunday, January 14th 2018 at 8:49AM
robert powell
Hey Robert, did you see this video report yet?


Sunday, January 14th 2018 at 10:00AM
Deacon Ron Gray
What a ****ty deal Durbin proposed. We donít want citizenship for illegals.
Sunday, January 14th 2018 at 8:48PM
Steve Williams
This is the LIE YOU TELL. if you seen this video report, you would have seen A Bipartisan Group of Senators led by Republican United States Senator from South Carolina Lindsey Graham,, and then, The Senior United States Senator from Illinois Richard Joseph Durbin.

You would have also seen provisions $2.6 Billion was proposed for border security and a proposed ($1.6 Billion for a border WALL, that the President wanted. You would LIE to the people and have them thinking that D*** Durbin brought this proposal by his self.

Steve, how is that a S**ty DEAL?

You would have known better, if you saw this video report with any understanding, Steve. WOW!!! That is the LIE you tell


Sunday, January 14th 2018 at 11:12PM
Deacon Ron Gray
Itís a ****ty deal because there should be no citizenship for illegal aliens. Give the kids a green card but not a vote. Send the parents back to their own countries and let them get in line like those who follow the United States laws.
Monday, January 15th 2018 at 4:09AM
Steve Williams
I see that you have not addressed that LIE that you and people like you are spewing about that this Senate proposal, that what you are calling A S**ty DEAL was D*** Durbin's.

Trump wants a wall and he will shut down the government if he don't get it. I believe that the DADC should not have any provision for a Trump Wall, that should be a separate bill all together and not a add on.

There you go again... "LYING." once again steve, this is a bad mark to your creditability.

The truth will come OUT.

Question Steve: What is the long term out come to the Republican Party as Trump continues to make these racist comments?


Monday, January 15th 2018 at 11:48AM
Deacon Ron Gray
Durbin owned the proposal when he abused it by coming out and talking about ****holes instead. And tried to make DACA about racism, just like you Ron. You have NO idea what Trump said, the context of what he said, why he said it, how he said it OR what he meant by it. I say the racists are you, **** Durbin, and Heil Man.
Monday, January 15th 2018 at 12:55PM
Steve Williams
It was Durbin who heard the comment by Trump, when Trump said that ignorant rascal comment and Durbin along with Lindsey Gram heard the leader of The Free World, President Donald John Trump said.

What would make Lindsey Gram LIE on a President that he supports?

You did not see this video report, did you before you made that "What a ****ty deal Durbin proposed" did you?




Monday, January 15th 2018 at 1:55PM
Deacon Ron Gray
I am glad though that you realize the government will shut down, just as Durbin planned it to.
Monday, January 15th 2018 at 1:59PM
Steve Williams
Is that a question Ron or a statement? Why would I not watch your video?
Monday, January 15th 2018 at 2:01PM
Steve Williams
It was Durbin who heard the comment by Trump, when Trump said that ignorant rascal comment and Durbin along with Lindsey Gram heard the leader of The Free World, President Donald John Trump said.

What would make Lindsey Gram LIE on a President that he supports?

You did not see this video report, did you before you made that dumb ass "What a ****ty deal Durbin proposed" did you?


Monday, January 15th 2018 at 2:03PM
Deacon Ron Gray
Why would I not watch your video? Because, nobody else on this site will talk to you, to see why you think the way you do.


Monday, January 15th 2018 at 2:06PM
Deacon Ron Gray
Youíre not making sense Ron. Iím asking why do you think I didnít watch your video?
Monday, January 15th 2018 at 3:21PM
Steve Williams
Speaking of your video Ron, what are the details of Durbinís proposal to cut the visa lottery program by 50%, and how does Haiti figure in that plan?
Monday, January 15th 2018 at 5:25PM
Steve Williams
Parts of your points that you bring to the blog is not the main points to what this video report is all about. You mentioned this: Steve, how is that a S**ty DEAL that Sen. Durbin proposed.?

if you would have seen this video before you made that LIE, you would have seen first off the bat that there was A Bipartisan Group of Senators led by Republican United States Senator from South Carolina Lindsey Graham,, and then, The Senior United States Senator from Illinois Richard Joseph Durbin came to present this bipartisan deal.

Also you would have seen who was also at that meeting with Trump.. Guess WHO?



Monday, January 15th 2018 at 6:04PM
Deacon Ron Gray
The first thing I see in your video is a chart showing what Durbin is proposing. I asked you a question about one of those points, which is how Haiti came into the discussion, that lead to Durbinís controversial allegation. If you donít know the answer to my question Ron, I can give you at least a partial answer.
Monday, January 15th 2018 at 6:26PM
Steve Williams
Who was the immigration hard-liners mentioned in this video report?
Monday, January 15th 2018 at 7:37PM
Deacon Ron Gray
Cotton and that other Republican Senator, and some Republican Representatives, the director of Homeland Security and whoever else. Bottom line Ron, I DONíT GIVE A ****. I donít care about anything in your video but the chart, that finally gave me some idea of what the hell they were talking about. You are a great disappointment Ron, but no surprise. You like Durbin donít care about DACA, TPS, or anything at all of substance. I have a couple links for you if you ever stop talking ****.
Monday, January 15th 2018 at 7:57PM
Steve Williams

It was Durbin who heard the comment by Trump, when Trump said that ignorant rascal comment and Durbin along with Lindsey Gram heard the leader of The Free World, President Donald John Trump said.

What would make Republican Lindsey Gram LIE on a President that he supports?
Monday, January 15th 2018 at 9:33PM
Deacon Ron Gray
What would make you not give a **** about Haiti?
Monday, January 15th 2018 at 11:09PM
Steve Williams
I don't know, what would make you not give a **** about Haiti. I do know what the news report said what led up to the chain of events, which led up to what said about Trump's racist comment. I do Know that Trumpís comments about race are: racially loaded, racially charged, racially tinged, racially sensitive.

I too have to realize that some of Trumpís comments arenít about only race. (You can favor less immigration without being a racist.) The full evidence, however, is overwhelming. Trump treats people differently based on their race. Specifically, he treats people who arenít white worse than people who are. Many of his policies ó on health care, crime, immigration and other subjects ó would harm African-Americans, Latinos, Asian-Americans and other minorities, and thatís not an accident.

Steve, The most damning evidence of Trumpís state of mind are his own words. Youíll find them here, with video made available, just take a real look and you will see what was reported Trump said.




Tuesday, January 16th 2018 at 2:23AM
Deacon Ron Gray
Youíre not a serious commentator Ron. You pull this S H I T every time.
Tuesday, January 16th 2018 at 4:54AM
Steve Williams
If telling you and The People here on Black In America what I think about current events on a blog, on this site and staying on topic is, that I am pulling this S H I T every time to you, then congratulations, you are damn right.

Now that we got pass Sen. Durbin being head of this Bipartisan Group of Senators led by Republican United States Senator from South Carolina Lindsey Graham,, and then, The Senior United States Senator from Illinois Richard Joseph Durbin came to present this bipartisan deal.

Also we have got past that FACT that Trump got what he wanted in this Bipartisan proposal and that was "MONEY FOR A WALL,'" before the Hard right-wing immigration hard-liners mentioned earlier, who took control of Trump's commitment to sign what ever that bipartisan group came up with.

Steve, I can't make this stuff up, Trump said that out of his mouth and you can watch him say what he would do, before the Hard-liners got to him. If this country shut's down over DADC, it will be Trump's fault because he is back stepping from what he said earlier at the bipartisan committee meeting.

Now let us get to the infamous meeting with Trump, the Bipartisan group of Senators led by Republican Lindsey Gramm and Democrat Senator Durbin, who was surprised by Republican hard-liners. Now when they discussed protecting immigrants from Haiti, El Salvador and African countries as a bipartisan immigration deal as you well know Steve. Now Trump asked this question: "Why are we having all these people from S---HOLE counties come here? [This is according to several people briefed at this meeting.]

New this is why people all over the world is calling your boy Trump, racist. Brittan our closest friend and ally won't let TRUMP into that country because of his attitude. WOW!!!




Tuesday, January 16th 2018 at 11:31AM
Deacon Ron Gray
Sorry Ron, President Trump NEVER said he would sign WHATEVER a self annointed, self appointed, GANG of 3 PARTISAN democratic senators and 3 PARTISAN republican senators SHAT for him.
Tuesday, January 16th 2018 at 2:08PM
Steve Williams
Rest assured that now those two Republican Hard right-wing immigration hard-liners and hacks, Rep. Goodlatte (R-VA) and Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR) got Trump's ear and turned his mind from any recommendation from the Bipartisan immigrations committee which Trump appeared in that press conference earlier in the week.

By the way Steve, you do know that provisions of $2.6 Billion was proposed for border security and a proposed ($1.6 Billion for a border WALL, that the President wanted, what most does Trump want at the last moment? To this time the American people don't know what Trump is holding out for, do you know?


Tuesday, January 16th 2018 at 6:54PM
Deacon Ron Gray
I also notice that you have not brought up your opinion of Trump's remarks, which is the bases of this blog, I would why?



Tuesday, January 16th 2018 at 6:58PM
Deacon Ron Gray
What I know Ron is that DACA, TPS, and the diversity visa program are are extremely important immigration issues that YOU HAVE NOT ADDRESED A SINGLE SYLLABLE TOWARDS.
Tuesday, January 16th 2018 at 7:01PM
Steve Williams
STOP YOUR LIES NOW STEVE. I did mention two good point in this DACA proposal

1. The propose offer of $2.8 billion for Border Security

2. Another $1.6 Billion for a WALL that Trump wanted

Do you know why Trump is holding out for?

So you can stop that LIE right in it'd tracks, right now as your creditability sinks below the surface of HELL.


Tuesday, January 16th 2018 at 7:38PM
Deacon Ron Gray
Border security and the wall are not DACA. Youíve not said a single thing on what to do about DACA. Do you think there should be a pathway to citizenship? What does your so-called bipartisan plan say?
Wednesday, January 17th 2018 at 10:02AM
Steve Williams
Steve, this is just two of the points in this proposal to ease the path for the president to sign DACA into LAW. How in the hell can you overlook that this bipartisan DADC bill was tied to border security and money for that border wall, that Trump wants now? How do you overlook that point Steve Williams?




Wednesday, January 17th 2018 at 10:39AM
Deacon Ron Gray
The President laid out 4 things he wanted, 1) a resolution to DACA, 2) an end to the visa lottery, 3) an end to chain migration, and 4) 18 billion for the wall. Iím talking about item 1 Ron.
Wednesday, January 17th 2018 at 11:56AM
Steve Williams
How in the hell can you overlook that this bipartisan DADC bill was tied to border security and money for that border wall, that Trump wants now? How do you overlook that point Steve Williams?


Wednesday, January 17th 2018 at 1:14PM
Deacon Ron Gray
I know that you know nothing about DACA, aka ďDADC billĒ (I guess), because you cannot give an opinion on:

Itís a ****ty deal because there should be no citizenship for illegal aliens. Give the kids a green card but not a vote. Send the parents back to their own countries and let them get in line like those who follow the United States laws.
Monday, January 15th 2018 at 4:09AM
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Wednesday, January 17th 2018 at 1:42PM
Steve Williams
Thanks for the correction of my typo "DADC aka DACA." Steve, this blog is not about what I know about DACA. This blog main subject is about Heilemann: Trumpís long-term impact on GOP is bleak, which DACA was discussed.

Now what was also reported what Trump said: protecting immigrants from Haiti, El Salvador and African countries as a bipartisan immigration deal as you well know Steve. Now Trump asked this question: "Why are we having all these people from S---HOLE counties come here? [This is according to several people briefed at this meeting.]

This has been hot news for a few days now. What did you say on this subject Steve?


Wednesday, January 17th 2018 at 3:49PM
Deacon Ron Gray
I donít expect you to care about the proposed deal Ron. Not when youíve got race for brains.
Wednesday, January 17th 2018 at 3:58PM
Steve Williams
Steve, let me ask you this: "?Do you support these words?" "Why are we having all these people from S---HOLE counties come here?


Wednesday, January 17th 2018 at 6:23PM
Deacon Ron Gray
The only person I hear saying those words is Durbin and all his parrots. Like you. You and I both know that you were not a party to that conversation. That makes you nothing more than a gossip.
Wednesday, January 17th 2018 at 8:57PM
Steve Williams
Durbinís plan is to shut down the government. The Democrats will in fact shut down the government, but the American people will not be fooled into believing it was the Republicans. Nor will the President be fooled into making a bad deal on immigration.
Wednesday, January 17th 2018 at 9:25PM
Steve Williams

Heilemann: Trump's long-term impact on GOP is bleak

SUBJECT

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trump$ette is the GOP of his Father and America since 1960-1965..Civil Rights ERA

------- this heilemannPastee of 'blackHebrewIsraelite' is and ALWAYS is WRONG..my opinion.....

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and while the FACT newBIA reporter Argues about NOTHING......

Trump administration bars Haitians from visas for low-skilled work
Reuters on MSN.com ∑ 9h

Haitians seeking to come to the country under federal H-2A and H-2B visas will no longer be eligible,

the Trump administration said on Wednesday.


Thursday, January 18th 2018 at 8:12AM
robert powell
Thanks for the news Robert.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-haiti/trump-administration-bars-haitians-from-u-s-visas-for-low-skilled-work-idUSKBN1F702O?il=0

Thursday, January 18th 2018 at 8:34AM
Steve Williams
The members of the Republican Party which the president is the head of, don't know at this point in time, what Trump wants to do.

That is also true about his Chief of Staff, just ask Gen. John Kelly.

Now Trump contradicts his own White House.


Thursday, January 18th 2018 at 9:11AM
Deacon Ron Gray
Thereís no mystery about what the President wants.

White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders confirmed the deal in an official statement ahead of a press briefing Tuesday afternoon: "President Donald J. Trump just concluded a successful bipartisan and bicameral meeting on immigration reform. During the closed-door portion of the meeting, they reached an agreement to negotiate legislation that accomplishes critically needed reforms in four high-priority areas: border security, chain migration, the visa lottery, and the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals [DACA] policy."

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/01/09/full_replay_president_trump_makes_a_deal_on_immigration_reform.html

Thursday, January 18th 2018 at 9:21AM
Steve Williams
Just look at the date of Full Replay: Trump Meets With Congress on DACA in Rare Public Negotiation posted By Tim Hains
On Date January 9, 2018. Thank You for proving my point that Trump was for this DACA bipartisan bill, before his was against it.

Great Read, (LOL)



Thursday, January 18th 2018 at 9:37AM
Deacon Ron Gray
They didnít bring the President a deal. A deal is still being negotiated and when it is done the President will sign it. Itís still a LONG way off.
Thursday, January 18th 2018 at 11:31AM
Steve Williams
That is NOT WHAT YOUR LINK SAID. "President Donald Trump decided to allow the press pool to film a lengthy meeting Tuesday on immigration reform, where he has allegedly made a deal with Congressional Republicans and Democrats on the parameters of immigration reform.

White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders confirmed the deal in an official statement ahead of a press briefing Tuesday afternoon: "President Donald J. Trump just concluded a successful bipartisan and bicameral meeting on immigration reform. During the closed-door portion of the meeting, they reached an agreement to negotiate legislation that accomplishes critically needed reforms in four high-priority areas: border security, chain migration, the visa lottery, and the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals [DACA] policy."

In Short, Trump already agreed on a deal, then it was TRUMP who RENEGED after meeting with the two Republican immigration hardliner. He is using his negotiating skills one moment and being led by the Nose by the right wing of the Republican Party, in the next.

You are familiar with the team "WISHY-WASHY" haven't you?

The president knows that this so-call "WALL" can't be from complete from sea to shining sea. The ball is in his court.

RAY Charles can see this chin of events. You do have the uses of both eyes, don't you?

then see the question of Trump's: "Why are we having all these people from S---HOLE counties come here? [This is according to several people briefed at this meeting." do you agree with this statement Steve?




Thursday, January 18th 2018 at 2:18PM
Deacon Ron Gray
Excuse me Ron, the President is waiting for a bill from CONGRESS, not some ****ty proposal from 6 PARTISAN Senators.
Thursday, January 18th 2018 at 3:10PM
Steve Williams
You are familiar with the team "WISHY-WASHY" haven't you?

The president knows that this so-call "WALL" can't be from complete from sea to shining sea. The ball is in his court.

RAY Charles can see this chin of events. You do have the uses of both eyes, don't you?

Then see the question of Trump's: "Why are we having all these people from S---HOLE counties come here? [This is according to several people briefed at this meeting." do you agree with this statement Steve?


Thursday, January 18th 2018 at 3:23PM
Deacon Ron Gray
What is the president's theme song Steven? "You can't always get what you want." the shutting down of this country will be on TRUMP'S hands. Do the buck stop's with Trump?


Thursday, January 18th 2018 at 3:28PM
Deacon Ron Gray
The blame for the shutdown will be on the Democrats. Every single one of your Senators will refuse to fund our government. To me thatís a gift.
Thursday, January 18th 2018 at 4:46PM
Steve Williams

Heilemann: Trump's long-term impact on GOP is bleak

SUBJECT

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trump$ette is the GOP of his Father and America since 1960-1965..Civil Rights ERA

------- this heilemannPastee of 'blackHebrewIsraelite' is and ALWAYS is WRONG..my opinion.....

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The blame for the shutdown will be the racistlyIgnorant Racialistic Racism of American History........

1. African Asian illegal slaveImmigration....

2. African Asian AND SouthCentral legal/Illegal Immigration.......


Friday, January 19th 2018 at 8:12AM
robert powell
------- this heilemannPastee of 'blackHebrewIsraelite' is and ALWAYS is WRONG..my opinion.....

You don't have an opinion when your scary ass is to afraid to look at the video material yourself because you don't have the proper training or knowledge to properly use your computer. You are not literate enough on this subject to make any snap decision on whether I am RIGHT OR WRONG. Man up Ms. robert powder and view this video report, stay in your place and STOP YOUR BULL 💩. (LOL)




Friday, January 19th 2018 at 8:46AM
Deacon Ron Gray
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