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Posted By: Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Tuesday, April 17th 2018 at 8:25AM
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Daniel was a historian.
Tuesday, April 17th 2018 at 3:45PM
Steve Williams
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Wait just one moment, you just said that Daniel was a historian, now you don't know who Daniel is, WOWWW!!!!
Which one is it Steve, you was LYING then or you are LYING now?
Wednesday, April 18th 2018 at 12:32PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I know what I think Ron. What I don't know is what you think, what you are teach-test-test-teaching. I've been studying Daniel for 8 months, 2 hours every week, with my Jehovah's Witness friend. We've been slogging through Daniel 10 and 11 for a few weeks now and just this morning we talked about this test test comment that you teach teach about principalities and powers. What say you Deac, who is Daniel?
Wednesday, April 18th 2018 at 3:02PM
Steve Williams
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Steve, are these words: "Daniel was a historian." Wednesday, April 18th 2018 at 12:16PM?
Steve, you never did answer my question to you after seeing this response from you, clear this up for me.
Wait just one moment, you just said that Daniel was a historian, now you don't know who Daniel is, WOWWW!!!!
Which one is it Steve, you was LYING then or you are LYING now?
Wednesday, April 18th 2018 at 8:07PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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The reason you can't explain Daniel is because you are no Deacon Ron.
Wednesday, April 18th 2018 at 10:16PM
Steve Williams
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I said "Daniel is a historian". Your INANE reply was "teach test test teach". Wanting to know WHAT you were teaching, I asked "who is Daniel?". Your INANE reply was "did you lie then or did you lie now?" You're a very dishonest fellow Ron. No matter how many chances I give you, you never step up to the plate.
Wednesday, April 18th 2018 at 10:28PM
Steve Williams
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I know who was Daniel is Steve and the Daniel that TEST TEST quoted from was no historian Steve. Daniel of The Holy Bible was faithful to Yah / God, he was King Nebuchadnezzar, the ruler of Babylon interpreter of his dreams.
Where did you get that Daniel was a historian from?
Thursday, April 19th 2018 at 2:35AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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It's a question of when the book of Daniel was written. If it was written during the time of Cyrus then Daniel 11 refers to future events, making Daniel a prophet. If it was written during the time of Antiochus Epiphanes then Daniel 11 refers to past and current events, making Daniel a historian. History is always subject to dispute but prophecy even more so.
Thursday, April 19th 2018 at 7:03AM
Steve Williams
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Adding to the confusion, the Masoretic text of chapter 11 starts out "in the first year of Darius the Mede", but both Greek texts (the Old Greek and Theodotion) start out "in the first year of Cyrus".
Thursday, April 19th 2018 at 7:13AM
Steve Williams
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Steve, the Book of Daniel was written by Daniel himself during the Babylonian Exile, in the sixth century BCE. However, the book was written in the third person, and there are some difficulties in accepting Daniel as a first-hand account.
The Book of Daniel records the actions, prophecies, and visions of the Prophet Daniel. That is not the actions of a historian. Denial foretold the future and Denial was also the King Nebuchadnezzar, the ruler of Babylon interpreter of his dreams.
Can you refute that FACT?
Thursday, April 19th 2018 at 9:37AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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The book of Daniel is far too interesting to reduce it to a matter of refutation.
Thursday, April 19th 2018 at 9:49AM
Steve Williams
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I think that Daniel 10 and 11 refer to the Maccabean histories and the things spoken of in Matthew 24. All three center around The Abomination of Desolation.
Thursday, April 19th 2018 at 10:01AM
Steve Williams
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No Steve Both in The Book of Daniel 10 and 11 and Matthew 24 was talking about the future of the END TIMES of the age and the destruction of the Temple.
YOU SAY: The book of Daniel is far too interesting to reduce it to a matter of
the action of proving a statement or theory to be wrong or false..
What is the matter Steve, The Facts are in The Holy Bible, is their for all to see and prophets of that time did talk of the Future to come and not the past. You can't prove the action of proving a statement or theory to be wrong or false, that is what refutation is Steve. .
Can you refute that?
Thursday, April 19th 2018 at 11:04AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Now do you want to comment of Comey: Trump more concerned with PR than stopping Russians or what?
Thursday, April 19th 2018 at 11:06AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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To you first question Ron, I didn't say I can't refute your belief, I said I'm not interested in doing so. As far as Comey, I think he's the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel.
Thursday, April 19th 2018 at 11:47AM
Steve Williams
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Here, let me break this down to you, using something you wrote, Steve. Your Works: I think that Daniel 10 and 11 refer to the Maccabean histories and the things spoken of in Matthew 24. All three center around The Abomination of Desolation. Thursday, April 19th 2018 at 10:01AM
This last sentence in your statement tell the reader "All three center around The Abomination of Desolation," describes the future come for their time. That is what prophecy is all about. That is FACT Steve.
Thursday, April 19th 2018 at 12:34PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Daniel's prophecy is for all time, including the present time. Do you know what is the abomination of desolation Ron?
Thursday, April 19th 2018 at 2:45PM
Steve Williams
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Steve, where did you get this idea: "Daniel was a historian?"
Thursday, April 19th 2018 at 10:41PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Because the events in Daniel 11, including the abomination of desolation, are written of elsewhere in the Bible as historical events occurring during the time of Antiochus Epiphanes, who died in 165 BC.
Friday, April 20th 2018 at 12:05AM
Steve Williams
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Daniel foretold these events, even Jesus Christ referred to the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel. Daniel was a hero and a Prophet in The Biblical reference and not some historian.
According to The Mark 13:14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:
Some theologian argue the point, that The Roman "European" are those people standing where it ought not, and that place is The Temple in Israel. Jesus said once you see that, head for the Mountains.
That prophecy saved millions of Hebrew and the beginning of that that great diaspora.
Friday, April 20th 2018 at 9:36AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Why is Daniel, in the Jewish canon, placed in the Writings rather than the Prophets?
Friday, April 20th 2018 at 9:39AM
Steve Williams
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Sir, you are getting way off subject now. The arrangement of the Books of The Holy Bible is not important, when is come to Daniel was a prophet or not Daniel was a Prophet
Here: Type this in your search engine "Was Daniel of The Bible a Prophet." and you will find the evidence is overwhelming that Daniel was a Prophet.
Friday, April 20th 2018 at 10:19AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Sir, you are getting way off subject now. The arrangement of the Books of The Holy Bible is not important, when is come to Daniel was a prophet or not Daniel was a Prophet
Here: Type this in your search engine "Was Daniel of The Bible a Prophet." and you will find the evidence is overwhelming that Daniel was a Prophet.
Now Steve, what comes to mind as a biblical historical reference is Josephus.
Now Steve, Josephus, was the most recognized Jewish historian who lived in the time of our Lord, tells us that he could trace his ancestry back to the Maccabeans, or priest-rulers, from public registers. He also states that wherever Jews settled such registers were kept of births and marriages of the priesthood, and that registers went back some two thousand years. That the Israelites were most interested in the preservation of their pedigree can be proven by 1 Chronicles 9:1. The forfeit of those tribes who had lost their pedigree is seen in Ezra 2:59 and Nehemiah 7:63.
These is irrefutable evidence of Daniel being a Prophet in The Holy Bible.
Friday, April 20th 2018 at 10:36AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Have you actually read Jerome? Porphyry was a contemporary of his who knew that Daniel was written after the events it purports to prophecy. Porphyry's books were all burned, to conceal this truth, so we only know anything about what Porphyry thought through what Jerome tells us. Such is the insanity of your religion.
Friday, April 20th 2018 at 11:05AM
Steve Williams
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Prologue
(P. 491) (617-618) Porphyry wrote his twelfth book against the prophecy of Daniel, (A) denying that it was composed by the person to whom it is ascribed in its title, but rather by some individual living in Judaea at the time of the Antiochus who was surnamed Epiphanes. He furthermore alleged that "Daniel" did not foretell the future so much as he related the past, and lastly that whatever he spoke of up till the time of Antiochus contained authentic history, whereas anything he may have conjectured beyond that point was false, inasmuch as he would not have foreknown the future. Eusebius, Bishop of Caesarea, made a most able reply to these allegations in three volumes, that is, the eighteenth, nineteenth, and twentieth. Appollinarius did likewise, in a single large book, namely his twenty-sixth. (B) Prior to these authors Methodius made a partial reply.
http://www.tertullian.org/fathers/jerome_d...
Friday, April 20th 2018 at 11:10AM
Steve Williams
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Hay Steve, did you type in your search engine "Was Daniel of The Bible a Prophet," and what did you find?
Friday, April 20th 2018 at 12:29PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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What we need to understand Ron is what is a prophecy.
"And seed from him will arise and will profane the sanctity of sovereignty. And they will abolish the regular offering and will render an obliterated abomination. And those who are lawless will introduce a covenant by means of slipperiness, and people who know their God will stand firm and will take action."
Friday, April 20th 2018 at 5:20PM
Steve Williams
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Steve, did you type in your search engine "Was Daniel of The Bible a Prophet," and what did you find?
Friday, April 20th 2018 at 5:47PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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A key to understanding prophecy is the principle of duality —that some prophecies can have more than one fulfillment. This means a prophecy may be partially fulfilled but will not completely come to pass until a later time. To understand Christ’s words we must look at three fulfillments—two historic and one future—of prophecies about the abomination of desolation.
https://www.ucg.org/the-good-news/just-wha...
Friday, April 20th 2018 at 7:03PM
Steve Williams
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A key to understanding prophecy is the principle of duality is a very interesting topic, all to it's self.
The question was Steve, did you type in your search engine "Was Daniel of The Bible a Prophet," and what did you find?
Friday, April 20th 2018 at 8:44PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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On that first link you found that Daniel was a Prophet.
On the second link or the color book link, you found that Daniel was a Prophet.
On this third link or the Daniel: The Movie (2006) I don't know what, you are going to find.
Thank you for proving my point with overwhelming evidence that Daniel was a Prophet and not a historian. Can you refute that?
Saturday, April 21st 2018 at 7:21AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Links don't prove a thing Ron, except what someone believes. What I believe is that obliterated abomination is right here right now, in America 2018, manifest in the sacrilege, the profanity you celebrate every day.
Saturday, April 21st 2018 at 9:04AM
Steve Williams
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Stop your LYING Steve. Those links that you promoted and provided, was overwhelming evidence that Daniel was a Prophet and not a historian. Steve, just because you say those links don't prove a thing, is wrong, it do. The proof is there in front of you in Black and White.
Thanks Steve for making my point.
Saturday, April 21st 2018 at 9:16AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I don't make your point Ron, it's your point, you make it. I make my point, from the angel to Daniel.
"And seed from him will arise and will profane the sanctity of sovereignty. And they will abolish the regular offering and will render an obliterated abomination. And those who are lawless will introduce a covenant by means of slipperiness, and people who know their God will stand firm and will take action."
Saturday, April 21st 2018 at 10:22AM
Steve Williams
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