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Sandy Hook Families Win Ruling To Seek Gun Maker Accountability | Rachel Maddow | MSNBC
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Friday, March 15th 2019 at 2:09PM
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Consider Your Man Card Reissued - "if it's good for the professional, it's good enough for YOU. Bushmaster. Who's that professional? Was that in mention to the professional SOLDIER?

One catalog shows the silhouette of a soldier, when you need to perform under pressure, if you buy this you, too, can do what this soldier does, To force the opposition to BOW DOWN. WHAT?

Are we talking about one American citizen giving orders to another American by way of this weapon? Is this ad leading up to this Civil War, that I am hearing more about?


Friday, March 15th 2019 at 3:54PM
Deacon Ron Gray
In civilian life there IS legal combat use of the AR-15. Rachel is wrong again. Hopefully the families will lose their case.

Friday, March 15th 2019 at 11:50PM
Steve Williams
Prove your case Steve and answer all three questions.

Consider Your Man Card Reissued - "if it's good for the professional, it's good enough for YOU. Bushmaster. Who's that professional? Was that in mention to the professional SOLDIER?

One catalog shows the silhouette of a soldier, when you need to perform under pressure, if you buy this you, too, can do what this soldier does, To force the opposition to BOW DOWN. WHAT?

Are we talking about one American citizen giving orders to another American by way of this weapon? Is this ad leading up to this Civil War, that I am hearing more about?


Saturday, March 16th 2019 at 10:24AM
Deacon Ron Gray
Remington is a good company with a long and distinguished history. Your argument that Remington ads caused Sandy Hook is ridiculous.

Saturday, March 16th 2019 at 10:50AM
Steve Williams
I asked you to answer all three of my questions. What is the matter Steve, are you mindless, now?




Saturday, March 16th 2019 at 11:11AM
Deacon Ron Gray
Ron, you use questions to avoid a real discussion. Do you understand the history of military, law enforcement, and civilian arms?

https://web.archive.org/web/20110102044229/http://www.bushmaster.com/acr/

Saturday, March 16th 2019 at 11:24AM
Steve Williams
Yes I do understand the de\ifference and this link that you provide don't come close to answering those question!!! , Now I asked you to answer all three of my questions. What is the matter Steve, are you mindless, now?

Prove your case Steve and answer all three questions.

Consider Your Man Card Reissued - "if it's good for the professional, it's good enough for YOU. Bushmaster. Who's that professional? Was that in mention to the professional SOLDIER?



One catalog shows the silhouette of a soldier, when you need to perform under pressure, if you buy this you, too, can do what this soldier does, To force the opposition to BOW DOWN. WHAT?

Are we talking about one American citizen giving orders to another American by way of this weapon? Is this ad leading up to this Civil War, that I am hearing more about?


Saturday, March 16th 2019 at 11:59AM
Deacon Ron Gray
I'm not here to critique Remington Arms advertising Ron. Rachel needed material for her show and as usual made a trivial news item into something bigger. Whenever there is a jury case we'll see the next step in the process, then that case or another will go to the U.S. Supreme Court and we'll find out if advertisements can be held liable for murder, which is pretty damn stupid if you think about it.

Saturday, March 16th 2019 at 12:01PM
Steve Williams
Steve, Are we talking about one American citizen giving orders to another American by way of the threat of death by the use of this weapon? Is this ad leading up to this Civil War, that YOU was talking about?


Saturday, March 16th 2019 at 1:12PM
Deacon Ron Gray
In 2014, the families of the First Graders and the educators killed in The Sandy Hook Shooting, they filed a wrongful death lawsuit against the manufacturer of the rifle that was used in that Massacre and they used the company's marketing as evidence that this was a product that was not being marketed for a lawful use. The Argument and specifically marking the AR 15 rifle to civilians so, that those civilians use it military combat, which is not a thing you're legally allowed to do.


Saturday, March 16th 2019 at 1:32PM
Deacon Ron Gray
Let's see the ad you're talking about Ron.

Saturday, March 16th 2019 at 2:56PM
Steve Williams
Steve, you would have seen those ads if would have saw this video report. Now go back and review this video report so, you will know what the topic is, can you do that?



Saturday, March 16th 2019 at 3:28PM
Deacon Ron Gray
There is nothing in your video that matches your description Ron. There is no one issuing any orders.

Saturday, March 16th 2019 at 4:48PM
Steve Williams
You are not asked to review this video for to view anyone issuing any orders. it was you who asked to see the ad's of the weapons industry that will make you a man, if you own this weapon in this video.

Are these your words:

Let's see the ad you're talking about Ron.

Saturday, March 16th 2019 at 2:56PM
Steve Williams | delete | block member

Steve, are you smocking that BULL💩 again?

Now go, get out of my face and review this video so, you will know what the hell you are talking about.


Saturday, March 16th 2019 at 5:19PM
Deacon Ron Gray
"Steve, Are we talking about one American citizen giving orders to another American by way of the threat of death by the use of this weapon?" That is your description Ron. There are 3 ads referenced in your video and NONE of them match that description.

Saturday, March 16th 2019 at 6:15PM
Steve Williams
BULL💩 Steve. Did you review this Video because if you did, you would see from the start of this report, you will see what I am talking about.

Now go, get out of my face and review this video so, you will know what the hell you are talking about.



Saturday, March 16th 2019 at 6:50PM
Deacon Ron Gray
I've been watching your video many, many times Ron, and I have yet to see the above described ad, sorry.

Saturday, March 16th 2019 at 8:14PM
Steve Williams
Steve, you did not see this one: Consider Your Man Card Reissued - "if it's good for the professional, it's good enough for YOU. Bushmaster?


Saturday, March 16th 2019 at 8:52PM
Deacon Ron Gray
"Forces of Opposition Bow Down"? You're talking about a tagline Ron? You think a tagline is responsible of a mass murder?

In entertainment, a tagline (alternatively spelled tag line[1][2]) is a short text which serves to clarify a thought for, or is designed with a form of, dramatic effect. Many tagline slogans are reiterated phrases associated with an individual, social group, or product. As a variant of a branding slogan, taglines can be used in marketing materials and advertising.

The idea behind the concept is to create a memorable dramatic phrase that will sum up the tone and premise of an audio/visual product,[a] or to reinforce and strengthen the audience's memory of a literary product. Some taglines are successful enough to warrant inclusion in popular culture. Consulting companies which specialize in creating taglines may be hired to create a tagline for a brand or product.

Saturday, March 16th 2019 at 9:26PM
Steve Williams
So, you did see the description of the ad's now Steve?


Saturday, March 16th 2019 at 9:31PM
Deacon Ron Gray
No Ron, I finally figured out what your description was about.

Saturday, March 16th 2019 at 10:32PM
Steve Williams
And what was that Steve?


Saturday, March 16th 2019 at 10:47PM
Deacon Ron Gray
The tagline Ron. You're obsessed with a tagline.

Saturday, March 16th 2019 at 11:05PM
Steve Williams
That is what make a sad ass into a bad ass and the gun industry will sale you a weapon used for war in a democracy and make you feel good you got one.

This is what the families of the third graders of Sandy Hook, who was shot to death by a AR-15 Military style killing machine, used in the times of WAR and I wish them with God's speed and may they receive victory in The Courts.


Saturday, March 16th 2019 at 11:17PM
Deacon Ron Gray
Maybe you should give them a hand Ron, put your money where your mouth is. Maybe you can find in these reports how a tagline motivated Adam Lanza.

Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting Reports

https://cspsandyhookreport.ct.gov

Sandy Hook killer took motive to his grave

https://www.cnn.com/2013/11/25/justice/sandy-hook-shooting-report/index.html

Sunday, March 17th 2019 at 1:53AM
Steve Williams
Various witnesses described a fifth-grade Lanza as quiet but bright: "He wouldn't necessarily engage in conversation, but wouldn't ignore one," the report states. He attended parties, enjoyed music and played the saxophone.

But the same year, according to investigators, Lanza produced something called the "Big Book of Granny" -- in which a woman armed with a gun in her cane goes on killing sprees with her son, with children sometimes the targets. The story was related to a class project, but apparently never was handed in to the school, the report notes.

What do you think Ron, was it Remington taglines that inspired a fifth-grader's fantasies of a killer Granny?

Sunday, March 17th 2019 at 2:02AM
Steve Williams
Steve, I am glad that is case is going to court. Maybe I will learn something, how about you Steve?




Sunday, March 17th 2019 at 3:13PM
Deacon Ron Gray
I doubt it Ron. I doubt a jury will find in favor of these misled families.


Sunday, March 17th 2019 at 4:16PM
Steve Williams
Steve, this case is about selling military capacity weapons to a civilian population here that makes the claim that their weapon is tested and proven reliable in the most brutal conditions on earth.... The uncompromising choice when you demand a rifle as mission adaptable as you are. It is quote "The Ultimate military combat weapons system."

In 2014, The families of the first graders and the educators KILLED in the Sandy Hook shooting, they filed a wrongful death lawsuit against the manufacture of the rifle that was used in that massacre and they use the company's marketing as evidence that this was a product that was not being marked for lawful use.

Steve, this argument and specifically the marketing the AP-15 rifle to civilians so, those civilians can use this weapon in combat which is not a thing you're legally allowed to do in this country, which I believe that they have a good chance of winning.






Sunday, March 17th 2019 at 6:01PM
Deacon Ron Gray
That's not the message of those ads Ron. People love the AR-15 and Remington produces a great product.

Sunday, March 17th 2019 at 7:04PM
Steve Williams
That was the weapon used in KILLING those BABIES Steve, that got in the wrong hands and the families of the victims are coming at the weapons industry are coming at them in a totally different way.

You say the People love the AR-15 and Remington produces a great product. What are they using a military style weapon AR - 15 for, target practice?


Sunday, March 17th 2019 at 8:36PM
Deacon Ron Gray
Yes Ron, target practice and target competitions. Haven't you heard of the CMP?

Sunday, March 17th 2019 at 9:01PM
Steve Williams
The AR-15 in question Steve, was used to KILL BABIES.
Sunday, March 17th 2019 at 9:48PM
Deacon Ron Gray
And so you want to ban the AR-15. You probably would like to start with mine, but we already know that about you people.

Monday, March 18th 2019 at 2:40PM
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