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New evidence shows that adding a citizenship question to the 2020 census was designed to give more political power to white Republicans.
Friday, May 31st 2019 at 8:36AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I see that you are into one word responses, try this one on for size: "Busted."
The evidence is right in front of you. Have you seen it yet?
Friday, May 31st 2019 at 9:27AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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MSNBC has been covering this story. I'll take a look at Chris Hayes last night when I'm done with the morning news. I can't watch two video streams at once. I've tried many times Ron and it doesn't work.
Friday, May 31st 2019 at 9:36AM
Steve Williams
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Then how can you call this video report Nonsense, if you have not seen it?
Take you time and watch what was discovered about the citizenship question to the 2020 census was designed to give more political power to white Republicans. Take your time...
Friday, May 31st 2019 at 10:03AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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This is an NBC news exclusive Ron. I just watched Stephanie Ruhle discuss it with Pete Williams. It's ONE story Ron, a charge by the ACLU in a New York court, which MAY have an impact on the pending Supreme Court case and MAYBE NOT. It's nonsense REGARDLESS of which MSNBC host is regurgitating it.
Friday, May 31st 2019 at 10:12AM
Steve Williams
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Talk about the finds Steve, what did this report said was reportedly found in this report, can you do that?
Friday, May 31st 2019 at 10:17AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I muted Stephanie's segment on Kushner in Israel and watched your video Ron. Now I think it's UTTER NONSENSE. The citizenship question belongs on the census; we should NOT be counting illegal aliens NOR giving them representation in our UNION. I pray and trust the Supreme Court will overrule the lower court and PRESERVE our Union.
Friday, May 31st 2019 at 10:29AM
Steve Williams
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It was found on a DEAD Republican's hard drive by his ESTRANGED daughter.
Friday, May 31st 2019 at 10:31AM
Steve Williams
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It's up to the Supreme Court to determine the significance of the research and publications found on the hard drive. I'm content to wait for the court's decision.
Friday, May 31st 2019 at 10:33AM
Steve Williams
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I am and people like me, are not illegal aliens Steve. This is a attempt to reduce the count of NON-White people in the 2020 census. Why are you telling that LIE, Steve of illegal aliens? WHY? Is it because you are apart of the so-called white privileged class? You did not see this report at all, if you did, you would not have came up with this BULL💩. WHY Steve are you lying like this? WHY?
Where in this report talks about illegal aliens, STEVE? point that out to me and the people on Black In America.
Now if you missed that, you really need to take your time with the FACTS in this report.
I am very disappointed in you, right now. WOW!!!
Friday, May 31st 2019 at 10:54AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Your report cals them "Latinos" Ron. Neither you nor "latinos" will be discriminated against if you are citizens. Illegal aliens WILL be discriminated. THAT IS THE POINT.
Friday, May 31st 2019 at 12:32PM
Steve Williams
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Where in this report that calls latinos illegal aliens? I am away from my desk right now But I will get back with you real soon because I would like to know where you got this BULL 💩, from: “Neither you nor "latinos" will be discriminated against if you are citizens from. This is just more LIES, to cover up the damn lie you told earlier today.
I will get back with you real soon.
Friday, May 31st 2019 at 2:26PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Now let us get to what has been report in this blog.
Your WORDS: we should NOT be counting illegal aliens NOR giving them representation in our UNION.
MY REPLY: This is a attempt to reduce the count of NON-White people in the 2020 census. Why are you telling that LIE, Steve of illegal aliens?
THEN YOU CAME UP WITH THIS: Your report cals them "Latinos" Ron. Neither you nor "latinos" will be discriminated against if you are citizens. Illegal aliens WILL be discriminated. THAT IS THE POINT.
MY REPLY: Where in this report that gives reference to Latinos as Illegal aliens?
Friday, May 31st 2019 at 5:00PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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At 3:30 said, it is going to hurt Latinos and other minority Groups and those other minority Groups includes The Black American and it is no where from that point on, that this report said Latinos where Illegal aliens, that is some BULL💩 you pulled right out of your ass Steve, here some 🧻 after you get through 🚽ing.
Steve you don't have to LIE like this, you sound like those heathens now, WOW!!!
Do you know what gerrymandering is? The Trump administration is massing with the power of my and the Black American vote to benefit their goals for the next 10 years, do you understand that or do you give a damn?
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Friday, May 31st 2019 at 8:24PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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The 9 Justices will figure it out Ron. I don't think citizen Latinos have anything to worry about.
Friday, May 31st 2019 at 10:41PM
Steve Williams
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For the second time, "Do you know what gerrymandering is? The Trump administration is massing with the power of my and the Black American vote to benefit their goals for the next 10 years, do you understand that or do you give a damn?"
Saturday, June 1st 2019 at 7:36PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I know what gerrymandering is Ron. It was done here just recently by the PA State Supreme Court, an elected body of Democrats. It was done to help tcreate your little blue wave.
Sunday, June 2nd 2019 at 12:30AM
Steve Williams
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STOP LYING STEVE, it was not just recently done by the PA State Supreme Court, because gerrymandering is connected with the census that is required by the United States Constitution every 10th year because that is when census data is taken.
Come on dude, you don't have to LIE like that!!!
Sunday, June 2nd 2019 at 8:59AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Ron, of course my state's Supreme Court relied on census data to redraw our districts.
Sunday, June 2nd 2019 at 4:22PM
Steve Williams
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Then that gerrymandering, just don't not recently happen, SO STOP LYING.
Sunday, June 2nd 2019 at 5:12PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Then that gerrymandering, just didn't recently happen Steve, SO STOP LYING.
Now why is the Republican Party LYING about putting a census question on the 2020 census that would reduce the count of non-White people like me, along with pretty much of the people here on Black In America, why would the Trump administration lie about the reason for the census question?
Do you support such a measure?
Sunday, June 2nd 2019 at 5:27PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Ron, it happened so recently that I didn't know what candidates I'd be voting for in 2018, until just a couple months prior to the election. I call that RECENT. This last election is RECENT.
Sunday, June 2nd 2019 at 9:07PM
Steve Williams
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I support such a measure Ron and have absolute confidence that you will be counted.
Sunday, June 2nd 2019 at 9:08PM
Steve Williams
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Then you support a bill that will tip the balance of power? Structural power in congress and statehouses all the way down towards an more whiter and more rural areas for a decade to come. So that is what you want?
Sunday, June 2nd 2019 at 10:51PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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You should take a look at this NYIC Plaintiffs’ motion for an order to show cause in State of New York, et al. v. U.S. Dep’t of Commerce, et al., 18-CV-2921 (JMF) and you will see the evidence, all you get to do is read it.
I see you, when you get through reading.
Monday, June 3rd 2019 at 7:42PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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That's a motion for an order not a bill.
Monday, June 3rd 2019 at 11:00PM
Steve Williams
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Did you completely read the motions to the court.
Monday, June 3rd 2019 at 11:39PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I have not Ron, could you summarize it for me?
Tuesday, June 4th 2019 at 9:43AM
Steve Williams
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So I've read it Ron, so what?
Tuesday, June 4th 2019 at 10:38AM
Steve Williams
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The Supreme Court will decide if the question is put on the census. The Supreme Court is the final arbiter of this question. The SDNY can't be trusted.
Tuesday, June 4th 2019 at 10:40AM
Steve Williams
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What did you learn about this motion?
Tuesday, June 4th 2019 at 11:05AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I learned it's a legal manuever that's bound to fail.
Tuesday, June 4th 2019 at 4:51PM
Steve Williams
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I see that YOU overlook these points:
(1) Dr. Hofeller concluded in a 2015 study that adding a citizenship question to the 2020 Census “would clearly be a disadvantage to the Democrats” and “advantageous to Republicans and Non-Hispanic Whites” in redistricting;
(2) in August 2017, Dr. Hofeller helped ghostwrite a draft DOJ letter to Commerce requesting a citizenship question and providing the Voting Rights Act enforcement rationale for doing so;
(3) Neuman gave this ghostwritten draft DOJ letter to Gore in October 2017; and
(4) the letter that DOJ eventually sent to Commerce in December 2017 adopted the same VRA rationale and bears striking similarities to Dr. Hofeller’s 2015 study stating that a citizenship question on the Census was essential to advantaging Republicans and white voters.
I see that you overlooked these four points from NYIC Plaintiffs’ motion for an order to show cause in State of New York, et al. v. U.S. Dep’t of Commerce, et al., 18-CV-2921 (JMF) from your education, WHY STEVE?
Tuesday, June 4th 2019 at 7:43PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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"Dr. Hofeller concluded in a 2015 study that adding a citizenship question to the 2020 Census “would clearly be a disadvantage to the Democrats” and “advantageous to Republicans and Non-Hispanic Whites” in redistricting;"
And you believe Dr. Hofeller? He sounds like an idiot to me Ron.
Wednesday, June 5th 2019 at 12:26AM
Steve Williams
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This is who the republican party depended on and LIED for to get that citizenship question to the 2020 Census into play before this new information came to surface.
Now you want to denounce Dr. Hofeller plans to snatch more power away from Democrats and give the republican white's more power over them for the next ten years. Now since they got BUSTED you want to call this man, that was the author of the citizenship question a "IDIOT", how interesting.
Can't you see that the people you support is LYING to it's on people for support?
Wednesday, June 5th 2019 at 10:40AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I don't support the Republican Party Ron but I do support the citizenship question. It's obvious the census is meant to count citizens only.
Wednesday, June 5th 2019 at 11:02AM
Steve Williams
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So, it is obvious you support gerrymandering the districts that will give a unfair advantage to the republican party over Black and Latino districts for the next ten years, is that right, Steve?
Quick question: Do you know when the last time this citizens ship question has been asked?
Wednesday, June 5th 2019 at 11:44AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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It seems I've heard something about when the citizenship question was REMOVED Ron.
Wednesday, June 5th 2019 at 12:14PM
Steve Williams
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I did not ask you about what you heard Steve, what I did ask you was this: Do you know when the last time this citizens ship question has been asked?
I will give you a clue, The answer is right here in this report.
Wednesday, June 5th 2019 at 12:32PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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It was 19 years ago Ron.
Wednesday, June 5th 2019 at 1:40PM
Steve Williams
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Steve, you don't have to lie like that Steve. You are acting like a habitual LIER. You have not seen this material yet, now have you?
YOUR WORDS: It was 19 years ago Ron.
MY REPLY: That is a LIE and you know full-well, that you have not seen the marital of this blog. Now go and look at this video so you can see the evidence for yourself.
Wednesday, June 5th 2019 at 3:03PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I gave you the timeline Ron. On the 2000 census they asked, "Is this person a citizen of the United State?", of all persons in 1 of 6 housholds.
Wednesday, June 5th 2019 at 7:08PM
Steve Williams
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I did not ask you about your so-called timeline. Steven, I want you to hear me well when I ask you this question: Do you know when the last time this citizens ship question has been asked? I will give you a clue, The answer is right here in this report.
What did this report say, the last time this citizens ship question was asked in this report?
Remember, I am only talking about this report and nowhere else. PAY ATTENTION.
You are sounding like this current administration, with all of this stonewalling, answer what I asked you, can you do that?
Wednesday, June 5th 2019 at 8:28PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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