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During a Tuesday morning interview, former U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley, says she never had doubts about President Trump's fitness for office and his truthfulness. The Morning Joe panel discusses Haley's remarks.
Tuesday, November 12th 2019 at 10:58PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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The soul doesn't exist Ron. Joe doesn't have a soul, Eddie doesn't have a soul, Mika doesn't have soul, etc., etc.
Wednesday, November 13th 2019 at 1:57AM
Steve Williams
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And Eddie is a real dumbass.
Wednesday, November 13th 2019 at 1:58AM
Steve Williams
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I see that you can't talk to the material of Nikki Haley Has Chosen To Lie For Trump so, you bring up Joe, Eddie and Mika's soul, unbelievable.
Now on the other hand this subject is not about the souls of Joe, Eddie or Mika's.
This blog is about controversial comments that Nikki Haley has made, especially upon the release of her latest book.
That is the topic of the blog and nothing about the soul of Joe, Eddie or Mika'.
No wonder you miss the story, because you are worried about something that is not apart of the evidence that is presented and put directly in front of you.
Now pull up your panties Steve, I don't want none of that 💩, now let's get to the subject matter. (LOL)!!!
Wednesday, November 13th 2019 at 9:46AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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At minute 5:30 the insufferable Eddie Glaude without any authority states that Trump has "corrupted the soul" of Nikki Haley. This is in your "video report" Ron, and I disagree. I see that you are unable to discuss YOUR OWN blog material. Eddie Glaaude is wrong because THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A "SOUL".
Wednesday, November 13th 2019 at 10:00AM
Steve Williams
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Let us review what was said at or before the 5 minutes and 30 Seconds portion of this blog material: You know joe, you made the point earlier but I think it's important to echo it.
5:30 We should give Trump credit. whoever comes into his orbit, he reveals their character. What you said earlier is the\at he corrupts of soul of whoever comes into his orbit.
What we see right there is Nikki Haley revealed for all of us to see that she's willing to turn a blind eye to Trump's LIES, to the erosion of our democracy, to the crisis that we're now in.
I will stop at 5:53
Now you said this: " Eddie Glaaude is wrong because THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A "SOUL". "
Steve, do you really believe THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A "SOUL"?
Are you saying that you don't have that inter being, a (inner) ego, something inside of you that tells you the difference right from wrong.
Steve, I am talking about that inspiration, that feeling, that emotion, that passion from with-in that is your very nature and that is your basic character of your being.
Now you are telling me that you and Nikki don't have a soul, that you are willing not to seek the real, the truth but you are willing to seek out and believe a LIE or LIES about the Ukraine bribery charges, is that what you are saying Steve?
Wednesday, November 13th 2019 at 11:11AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Ron, when Joe Scarborough and Eddie Glaude talk about the soul they are talking about the common human misconception that we have something separate from our bodies that can be saved or lost. To talk about corruption of the soul is to talk about the soul being lost. To say that anyone's soul can be lost though agreement with some other person is a total myth.
Wednesday, November 13th 2019 at 4:17PM
Steve Williams
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Steve, I did not ask you about Joe Scarborough and Eddie Glaude. I asked you: "Steve, do YOU really believe THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A "SOUL"?
Wednesday, November 13th 2019 at 6:53PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Not in the way you believe it Ron. You believe in a soul that saves your ego. But Nikki Haley surely has no worries about her soul being corrupted, not by Trump nor by anyone else.
Wednesday, November 13th 2019 at 7:23PM
Steve Williams
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I don't ask you about what you think I believe Steve. In what way do you believe in a soul, Steve? Please use your own words and keep it simple.
Wednesday, November 13th 2019 at 8:41PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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You obviously believe your ego will survive intact after death Ron. I don't. Do you really want me to try to explain buddhism to you again?
Wednesday, November 13th 2019 at 10:30PM
Steve Williams
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There you go again Steve, why are you ducking this question Steve:
"Steve, do YOU really believe THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A "SOUL"?
Please use your own words and keep it simple.
Wednesday, November 13th 2019 at 10:36PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Yes Ron, I really don't believe in a soul. Why are you confused?
Wednesday, November 13th 2019 at 11:04PM
Steve Williams
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I am not confused Steve, I knew that you don't have a soul a little while now.
Steve, why did it take you so long to admit that you have no soul?
Thursday, November 14th 2019 at 8:10AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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My very first comment made that obvious Ron. You don't have a soul either, but you will be just fine.
Thursday, November 14th 2019 at 8:15AM
Steve Williams
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Steve, I asked you why did it take you so long to admit that you have no soul?
Thursday, November 14th 2019 at 8:32AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I answered you Ron but let me tell you more. But don't forget, there is NO WAY Nikki Haley's soul can be corrupted.
“At that time the thus come one emitted a ray of light from the tuft of white hair between his eyebrows, one of his characteristic features, lighting up eighteen thousand buddha lands in the eastern direction. There was no place that the light did not penetrate, just as you have seen it light up these buddha lands now.
“Maitreya, you should understand this. At that time in the assembly there were twenty million bodhisattvas who were happy and eager to hear the Law. When these bodhisattvas saw this beam of light that illumined the buddha lands everywhere, they gained what they had never had before. They wished to know the causes and conditions that had occasioned this light.
“At that time there was a bodhisattva named Wonderfully Bright who had eight hundred disciples. At this time the buddha Sun Moon Bright arose from his samadhi and, because of the bodhisattva Wonderfully Bright, preached the great vehicle sutra called the Lotus of the Wonderful Law, a teaching to instruct the bodhisattvas, one that is guarded and kept in mind by the buddhas. For sixty small kalpas the buddha remained in his seat without rising, and the listeners in the assembly at that time also remained seated there for sixty small kalpas, their bodies and minds never moving. And yet it seemed to them that they had been listening to the buddha preach for no more than the space of a meal. At this time in the assembly there was not a single person who in body or mind had the least feeling of weariness.
“When the buddha Sun Moon Bright had finished preaching this sutra over a period of sixty small kalpas, he spoke these words to the Brahmas, devils, shramanas, and Brahmans, and to the heavenly and human beings and asuras in the assembly, saying, ‘Tonight at midnight the thus come one will enter the nirvana of no remainder.’
p.49“At this time there was a bodhisattva named Virtue Storehouse. The buddha Sun Moon Bright bestowed a prophecy on him, announcing to the monks, ‘This bodhisattva Virtue Storehouse will be the next to become a buddha. He will be called Pure Body, tathagata, arhat, samyak-sambuddha.’
“After the buddha had finished bestowing this prophecy, at midnight he entered the nirvana of no remainder.
“After the buddha had passed away, Bodhisattva Wonderfully Bright upheld the Lotus Sutra of the Wonderful Law, for a period of fully eighty small kalpas expounding it for others. The eight sons of the buddha Sun Moon Bright all acknowledged Wonderfully Bright as their teacher. Wonderfully Bright taught and converted them and roused in them a firm determination to gain supreme perfect enlightenment. Those princely sons gave offerings to immeasurable hundreds, thousands, ten thousands, millions of buddhas, and after that all were able to achieve the buddha way. The last to become a buddha was named Burning Torch.
“Among the eight hundred disciples of Wonderfully Bright was one named Seeker of Fame. He was greedy for gain and support, and though he read and recited numerous sutras, he could not understand them, but for the most part forgot them. Hence he was called Seeker of Fame. Because this man had in addition planted various good roots, however, he was able to encounter immeasurable hundreds, thousands, ten thousands, millions of buddhas, to make offerings to them, revere, honor, and praise them.
“Maitreya, you should understand this. Bodhisattva Wonderfully Bright who lived then—could he be unknown to you? He was no other than I myself. And Bodhisattva Seeker of Fame was you.
Thursday, November 14th 2019 at 9:40AM
Steve Williams
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Steve, these are wonderful words that points to wisdom but Steve, where are you going with this especially when I asked you this question:
"Steve, why did it take you so long to admit that you have no soul?"
Please answer that question because Steve, you are the first that I know of, who ever admitted that.
Thursday, November 14th 2019 at 1:13PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I didn't know it was that important to you Ron, sorry.
Thursday, November 14th 2019 at 3:58PM
Steve Williams
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It is,
"Steve, why did it take you so long to admit that you have no soul?"
Please answer that question because Steve, you are the first that I know of, who ever admitted that.
Thursday, November 14th 2019 at 8:58PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I said I was sorry Ron.
Thursday, November 14th 2019 at 11:41PM
Steve Williams
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Where in this blog have you answer the question of: "Steve, why did it take you so long to admit that you have no soul?"
Saying you are SORRY is no answer to my question.
Friday, November 15th 2019 at 9:22AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I didn't know it was that important to you Ron, sorry.
Thursday, November 14th 2019 at 3:58PM
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That's the answer Ron. I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS THAT IMPORTANT TO YOU!!
Friday, November 15th 2019 at 10:53AM
Steve Williams
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I’m curious, Simply curious, Steve. Steve, why did it take you so long to admit that you have no soul?"
Friday, November 15th 2019 at 11:27AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Because unlike you Ron I have no fear of not having a soul.
Friday, November 15th 2019 at 11:31AM
Steve Williams
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How long did you realize that you had no soul Steve?
Friday, November 15th 2019 at 12:26PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Since I started bible studies with my Jehovah's Witness friend Dave, about 3 years ago Ron.
Friday, November 15th 2019 at 3:03PM
Steve Williams
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So Steve, somewhere in the last 3 years, you lost your soul.
Is that accurate Steve?
Friday, November 15th 2019 at 3:25PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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No Ron. For my whole life I had thought of the soul as a matter of definition. As a buddhist I had stopped thinking about it and when I started weekly bible studies with the Witnesses I came to find there were a few things I agreed with them about. They think that the soul doesn't ascend immediately to heaven, but that when you are dead you are NOTHING until the day Jehovah resurrects you. I realized that the only difference that I had with them is that I am NOTHING until the time that I become incarnate once again. I realized when you asked me and I had to think about it, that was when I "realized that I have no soul", as you put it.
Friday, November 15th 2019 at 5:11PM
Steve Williams
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You said The Jehovah Witness think that the soul doesn't ascend immediately to heaven. From this point you are saying that they have a soul but it doesn't ascend immediately to heaven.
So Steve, let me see if I got it right. You got with the Jehovah's Witness's and now you think that your soul is not the element in humanity that gives us the ability to have an intimate relationship with God. So you say, you have no soul from studying with The Jehovah Witness, Is that not accurate Steve?
Friday, November 15th 2019 at 7:51PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Ron, as buddhists we say we have 6 sense organs not just 5. The 6th is our brain. Above our bodies and our brains is the Law. We don't make up things like the soul, as you do.
Friday, November 15th 2019 at 8:56PM
Steve Williams
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So where do the Jehovah Witness comes into play, when you know for a FACT that Buddhism don't believe they have a soul?
Why did you try to blame The Jehovah Witness for you not having a Soul?
The Jehovah Witness Believes that they don't have a immaterial soul. The Jehovah Witness Believes
The soul is the whole person, their mind, their emotions, their memories and even their future existence.
Now that is something, I know you got, "I HOPE!"
Friday, November 15th 2019 at 10:49PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Ron, Christians are obsessed with the soul so until I became a buddhist, in 2012 I think, I had been hearing all the various debates about the soul my whole life. Buddhists think that something carries over to the next life but I never heard anyone attempt to define it or give it a name. When I say the realization that I don't have a soul came to me three years ago I mean soul as YOU define it.
Friday, November 15th 2019 at 11:53PM
Steve Williams
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So you don't have a soul as of three years ago as I define it! you have nothing to do with defining your SOUL Steve, I don't know you.
I am more interested in your definition, of the way you describe your SOULLESS person, since it was you who made this discovery for yourself about three years ago.
Steve, can you describe your soulless life and tell me how did you come to that conclusion that you have no SOUL?
Saturday, November 16th 2019 at 8:30AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Is this what you believe Ron?
Plato's theory of soul, drawing on the words of his teacher Socrates, considered the psyche (ψυχή) to be the essence of a person, being that which decides how people behave. He considered this essence to be an incorporeal, eternal occupant of our being. Plato said that even after death, the soul exists and is able to think. He believed that as bodies die, the soul is continually reborn (metempsychosis) in subsequent bodies.
Saturday, November 16th 2019 at 1:29PM
Steve Williams
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Steve, I am more interested in your definition, of the way you describe your SOULLESS person, since it was you who made this discovery for yourself about three years ago.
Steve, can you describe your soulless life and tell me how did you come to that conclusion that you have no SOUL?
I might add this is the second time I asked you this question, can you answer that question on your next reply.
Saturday, November 16th 2019 at 3:06PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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All you've done Ron is ask questions. Have you ever asked yourself how that makes me feel? You act like you don't know your idea of the soul comes from the Greeks not the Hebrews.
Saturday, November 16th 2019 at 4:08PM
Steve Williams
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You are so predictable, I knew that you would not answer that simple question on your next reply but yet I see that you will run to the far reaches of the world, is to talk about some Greek origin or interpretation of the word "SOUL."
Please answer that question because Steve, you are the first person that I know of, who ever admitted that they have NO SOUL. I really want to take the time to understand why you say that you have NO SOUL.
Now can you explain why you say that you have NO SOUL?
I might add, this is the third time I asked you this question, can you answer that question on your next reply because I really want to understand what you mean, THAT YOU HAVE NO SOUL Steve and stop trying to BULL💩 me and the people here on Black In America.
Saturday, November 16th 2019 at 5:02PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Ron, you cant't seriously expect us to believe I'm the first one to challenge your theory of the soul. We have our eyes and our brains and the evidence right in front of us. When we are dead we stop thinking. Plato was wrong.
Saturday, November 16th 2019 at 8:26PM
Steve Williams
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YES!!! Steve, you are the first person that I met in life, that admitted that they are soilless in my life and YES, I am as serious as a heart attack.
Just look at what you said: We have our eyes and our brains and the evidence right in front of us. When we are dead we stop thinking.
Steve, I did not ask you about death. I asked you why you say that you don't have a SOUL and you are still alive.
This is the forth time and you have not told me, why you think that you don't have a SOUL yet, WHY?
Sunday, November 17th 2019 at 10:00AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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What are you saying Ron? Are you saying the soul is what animates us?
Sunday, November 17th 2019 at 1:03PM
Steve Williams
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No Steve, I 'am not saying that at all. I am asking you a question:
I asked you why you say that you don't have a SOUL and you are still alive?
This is the Fifth time and you have not told me, why you think that you don't have a SOUL yet, WHY?
Sunday, November 17th 2019 at 4:25PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I asked you Ron, what does being alive have to do with having a soul? Without an answer your question is unclear.
Sunday, November 17th 2019 at 5:29PM
Steve Williams
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Ron, I don't have a soul because I don't agree with the definition of a soul. Why I'm still alive, I have no idea.
Sunday, November 17th 2019 at 7:11PM
Steve Williams
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I asked you this question long before you asked me this question and I still have not got a reply:
I asked you why you say that you don't have a SOUL and you are still alive?
This is the Fifth time and you have not told me, why you think that you don't have a SOUL yet, WHY?
Now to answer your question Steve of what does being alive have to do with having a soul?
Just think about it for a moment Steve, did you think you can answer that question,. if you are DEAD?
Now answer my question: I asked you why you say that you don't have a SOUL and you are still alive?
This is the sixth time and you have not told me, why you think that you don't have a SOUL yet, WHY?
Sunday, November 17th 2019 at 7:32PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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YOUR WORDS: Ron, I don't have a soul because I don't agree with the definition of a soul. Why I'm still alive, I have no idea.
MY REPLY: Let me refine my question Steve: "I asked you why do you say that you, don't have a SOUL?"
Sunday, November 17th 2019 at 7:54PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Because Ron, stupid people talk about "Trump corrupted so-and-so's SOUL" or "Trump kidnapped so-and-so''s SOUL People talk about SOULS floating above and looking down on us. It sounds like a bunch of hocum pokum to me.
Sunday, November 17th 2019 at 8:45PM
Steve Williams
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Are you going to answer the question Steve: "Why do you say that you, don't have a SOUL?"
Sunday, November 17th 2019 at 8:56PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Ron, listen carefully. I don't have a SOUL because I don't believe this King James heresy.
36 For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? 37 Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
Monday, November 18th 2019 at 8:15AM
Steve Williams
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I was listening very carefully and I did not ask you a think about Mark 8:36 KJV or not. Steve what is your definition of a SOUL?
Please use your own words.
Monday, November 18th 2019 at 8:28AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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The soul is psyche Ron.
Monday, November 18th 2019 at 8:58AM
Steve Williams
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That sound a lot like the definition of SOUL to me and you are saying to me and The People here on Black In America that you have no SOUL.
Let's take a look at what the term psyche for a moment. PSYCHE IS A NOUN the human soul, mind, or spirit.
synonyms:
soul · spirit · (inner) self · innermost self · (inner) ego · true being · essential nature · life force · vital force · inner man/woman · persona · identity · personality · individuality · makeup · subconscious · mind · intellect · anima · pneuma · ka · atman
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Monday, November 18th 2019 at 10:30AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I meant the Greek goddess Ron. Psyche is a Greek myth.
PSYCHE (Psuchê), that is, "breath" or "the soul," occurs in the later times of antiquity, as a personification of the human soul, and Apuleius (Met. iv. 28, &c.) relates about her the following beautiful allegoric story.
https://www.theoi.com/Ouranios/Psykhe.html
Monday, November 18th 2019 at 10:57AM
Steve Williams
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NO Steve, I am not running after you, once you get busted and see I got that road blocked off, now you want to talk about a Greek goddess all of a sudden, NO.
If you say that you have NO SOUL, I believe you, even though you can't explain why. Steve, if you think you are SOULLESS, then why shouldn't I believe you.
Even Heathens go by a conscience of the Nine Noble Virtues which are Hospitality, Courage, Truth, Loyalty, Honor, Self Reliance, Perseverance, and Discipline. Maybe this is what you see in Nikki Haley eye's.
Monday, November 18th 2019 at 11:35AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Ron, just this morning I spotted this in a recent issue of Living Buddhism. This is what I believe.
When life and death are viewed in terms of the Mystic Law, there is no need to fear death. Death for living beings in the world of Buddhahood means becoming one with the universe that overflows with the workings of compassion. Then, when we are reborn, embodying the compassion and life force of the universe, we once again take vibrant action and conduct ourselves in the manner of a Buddha--in other words, taking the greatest joy in respecting others and working to lead all people to enlightenment.
Monday, November 18th 2019 at 11:55AM
Steve Williams
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That is wonderful Steve that just this morning you spotted this in a recent issue of Living Buddhism. Steve, you never did explain why you believe you don't have a SOUL.
But maybe reading this information may help you on your journey to seeking the answer to that question.
What Buddhists Believe by Venerable K. Sri Dhammananda Maha Thera "Is there an Eternal Soul?" https://www.budsas.org/ebud/whatbudbeliev/...
Monday, November 18th 2019 at 12:36PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Ron, you follow the Greek belief of a soul wandering in Hades. Do you see anywhere in the excerpt I posted above, about Death, any reference to an eternal Egotistic soul?
Monday, November 18th 2019 at 12:44PM
Steve Williams
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Thanks for the reference though.
Monday, November 18th 2019 at 12:47PM
Steve Williams
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Belief in an eternal soul is a misconception of the human consciousness.
The Soul Theory
With regard to the soul theory, there are three kinds of teachers in the world:
- The first teacher teaches the existence of an eternal ego-entity that outlasts death: He is the eternalist.
- The second teacher teaches a temporary ego-entity which becomes annihilated at death: He is the materialist.
- The third teacher teaches neither an eternal nor a temporary ego-entity: He is the Buddha.
The Buddha teaches that what we call ego, self, soul, personality, etc., are merely conventional terms that do not refer to any real, independent entity. According to Buddhism there is no reason to believe that there is an eternal soul that comes from heaven or that is created by itself and that will transmigrate or proceed straight away either to heaven or hell after death. Buddhists cannot accept that there is anything either in this world or any other world that is eternal or unchangeable. We only cling to ourselves and hope to find something immortal. We are like children who wish to clasp a rainbow. To children, a rainbow is something vivid and real; but the grown-ups know that it is merely an illusion caused by certain rays of light and drops of water. The light is only a series of waves or undulations that have no more reality than the rainbow itself.
My Source is: Source: Buddhist Study and Practice Group, http://www.sinc.sunysb.edu/Clubs/buddhism/
Steve, this may help you will that question and forget about that Greek belief, FOREGET ABOUT IT!!!!
Monday, November 18th 2019 at 1:00PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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The author of this piece believes the Buddha was a historical figure. Do you Ron?
Monday, November 18th 2019 at 3:16PM
Steve Williams
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Something else Ron, there are Buddhists that believe in the soul and heaven. They are the Pure Land Buddhists.
Monday, November 18th 2019 at 3:26PM
Steve Williams
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Your words: “ The author of this piece believes the Buddha was a historical figure. Do you Ron?”
My Reply: “YES” Steve, for millions
Thanks for the name of Buddhists that believe in the soul and heaven. Also I hope that link helps you to communicate your beliefs that you had no SOUL, OK!
Monday, November 18th 2019 at 4:49PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Thanks Ron, I think it will.
Monday, November 18th 2019 at 5:27PM
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