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Trumpism lives on in Congress and the streets of Washington (1321 hits)


Trumpism lives on in Congress and the streets of Washington
Trump's efforts to steal the election extend from the Capitol to far-right's rallies.
By Talia Lavin, MSNBC Opinion Columnist

On Wednesday, a legion of far-right marchers plans to descend on the nation's capital. This isn't their first foray into Washington — in November and December, prior sorties saw white nationalists, Proud Boys, militia members and hard-core Trumpists stab bystanders, burn Black Lives Matter banners and sound ram's horns in support of the increasingly dim hope that Donald Trump will retain the presidency. But Jan. 6 is no incidental date; it's the day Congress counts the Electoral College's votes in the 2020 presidential election — a usually ceremonial endeavor that this year aligns with the overwhelming popular will of U.S. voters, who supported President-elect Joe Biden by a margin of 7 million votes.

2021 already promises more of what 2020 delivered: a shattering of the fragile ceremonies of democracy, exposing the abyssal, violent white power populism roiling below. Wednesday morning will herald a dual defense against any repudiation of Trumpism's corrosion — one in the halls of Congress, the other in the streets, where a chaotic mass of conflicting Trumpist rallies are being planned. The challenge 140 Republican members of the House and 12 GOP senators plan to mount against the results of a legitimate election is bolstering the mood — and the conspiracy-laden cause — of the far-right marchers.

The day's proceedings in the hushed, carpeted halls of the legislature, taking the form of a chorus of "nays," will yield to bear Mace and knives after dark in the open air of the capital after the Trumpist rallies officially end. The parallel events represent a fundamental shift in the order of operations of the U.S. political sphere. And no matter how much a scandal-fatigued populace might wish to pretend otherwise, the era of Trumpism will not end on Jan. 20.

The "how did we get here" element of the Jan. 6 march and its congressional parallel is long and winding, filled with perfervid conspiracy theories, stochastic incitement to violence and a creeping undermining of the democratic process. Trump's phone call to Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger over the weekend, in which the president explicitly instructed Raffensperger to doctor vote totals to overturn the presidential election result in the state, is just the latest manifestation of an open war against a presidential transition that most elite pundits view, in blasé fashion, as inevitable.

That war has taken place in the courts — in a sea of spurious lawsuits, including many that baffled and aggrieved even Trump-appointed judges — and in the streets, as state capitals around the country have faced ragged, maskless crowds chanting to "Stop the Steal." It's also been accompanied by an efflorescence of online misinformation and conspiracy that has capitalized on the insular infosphere that right-wing media has created, rife with rumors of sedition and treason, which continues to feed the flames of the dying Trumpist enterprise — or perhaps to create, out of falsehood and dark intimations, an incipient Lost Cause to rally around for years to come.

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Posted By: Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Tuesday, January 5th 2021 at 9:19PM
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NOW we've got your attention. Tell us what reeally happened between the Proud Boys and Antifa. What makes you think you can get away with election fraud on the highest office of the land?

Tuesday, January 5th 2021 at 10:33PM
Steve Williams
That is something that you can prove in court right!

It's also been accompanied by an efflorescence of online misinformation and conspiracy that has capitalized on the insular infosphere that right-wing media has created, rife with rumors of sedition and treason, which continues to feed the flames of the dying Trumpist enterprise — or perhaps to create, out of falsehood and dark intimations, an incipient Lost Cause to rally around for years to come.

Steve, today you will see a living example “That You Can’t Prove a LIE” because that is all YOU and Trump have left, which is nothing but LIES.

Hey Steve, have you heard that Trump lost one Georgian Senate seat already, Rev. Warnick “WON” and it look like for Ossoff but yet, to close to call 📞.

Yesterday was a good day for democracy and to today looks promising.



Wednesday, January 6th 2021 at 6:50AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
We'll prove it on the streets Ron. Watch the Proud Boys go. You showed last night you're going to keep cheating until we stop you.


Wednesday, January 6th 2021 at 9:56AM
Steve Williams
What have you gogt to say now Ron?

Wednesday, January 6th 2021 at 2:40PM
Steve Williams
Now you are a far-right, neo-fascist who promotes and engages in political violence in the United States, why is that?

The Proud Boys have been described by US intelligence organizations as "a dangerous white supremacist group".

Words come to mind like blackshirt, chauvinist, isolationist, Hitlerite, racist, and totalitarian.

Do you Identify yourself as a Pour Boy?




Wednesday, January 6th 2021 at 3:19PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
I think it was Antifa that stormed the Capitol, not the Proud Boys. I'm not a Proud Boy yet Ron. I think it's a younger man's game. I'm not as formidible as I once was and I need a gun for protection these days.

Wednesday, January 6th 2021 at 4:19PM
Steve Williams
I stand my ground Steve and I can prove what I said about the people you just lied for. In the following paragraphs, I will highlight this article:

Trump Told Them To Stand By. Today, The Proud Boys Are Storming The Capitol
BRITNI DE LA CRETAZ BY LAST UPDATED JANUARY 6, 2021, 3:34 PM

On Wednesday, supporters of President Donald Trump violently descended on the nation’s capital for their “Stop The Steal” protest. The planned event was intended for MAGA-ites and right-wing Americans to express their outrage over the fact that they believe Democrats stole the election from President Trump, despite absolutely no evidence to back up those claims. As white supremacists and extremists from across the country arrived at the Capitol Building, all hell broke loose — the building was breached and protesters ended up inside, occupying the Capitol and causing members of Congress to lockdown in their offices, in what CNN is calling "an armed insurrection" and "an attempted coup" by the President's supporters.

Featured prominently at the Stop the Steal protest were the Proud Boys — a white supremacist militia group who President Trump has given shoutouts to before, explicitly telling members to “stand back and stand by” during the first presidential debate. The group is known to be friendly with police, though Tuesday night, protesters got in a massive fight with officers ahead of Wednesday's demonstration.

Steve, you can call them “What it is: An attack on the Capitol is an attack on democracy,”

And you want to be a PROUD BOY, WOW!!!

READ MORE: Trump Told Them To Stand By. Today, The Proud Boys Are Storming The Capitol https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trump-to...

Wednesday, January 6th 2021 at 7:47PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
So, where exactly have the Proud Boys been in all of this chaos? According to VICE News reporter Tess Owen, who is on the ground at the protest, members of the Proud Boys planned to wear disguises to the event today. However, that presented a tactical concern for the group, who apparently could not locate each other due to their obscured identities. Images of extremist protestors inside the Capitol building have been widely circulated, though it's not yet clear, based on their disguises, who belongs to this particular extremist group.

Wednesday, January 6th 2021 at 8:03PM
Steve Williams
Proud Boys appear to be incognito, as promised -- saw groups of them roving around through the crowd.

However, they have run into a problem: They are apparently having a hard time finding each other, due to their disguises.

1:21 PM · Jan 6, 2021·Twitter Web App

Wednesday, January 6th 2021 at 8:15PM
Steve Williams
That is right, The Proud Boy's sound like real dullards, with that plan but so was attacking and damaging our U.S. Capital Building and Offices was too.

I also see this all happen based on a LIE that TRUMP told his supporters a LIE, saying he won The 2020 Presidential Election that he lost by a landslide in Georgia and the sad part about this is, YOU STILL BELIEVE TRUMP, even after hearing those LIES comes right out of TRUIMP's VERY OWN MOUTH.


Wednesday, January 6th 2021 at 8:59PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
You missed the point Ron. If the Proud Boys couldn't recognize each other then neither could you or anyone know they were Proud Boys. In fact, those roving bands were Antifa disguised with red hats. If you saw that one video of them smashing in glass doors, you would recognize them instantly. We've all seen their MO many, many times.

Wednesday, January 6th 2021 at 10:06PM
Steve Williams
If that was this Antifa group you claim it was, then why is Trump giving The Proud Boys all of his positive credit for it Steve?

On Wednesday, a legion of far-right marchers plans to descend on the nation's capital. This isn't their first foray into Washington — in November and December, prior sorties saw white nationalists, Proud Boys, militia members and hard-core Trumpists stab bystanders, burn Black Lives Matter banners and sound ram's horns in support of the increasingly dim hope that Donald Trump will retain the presidency. But Jan. 6 is no incidental date; it's the day Congress counts the Electoral College's votes in the 2020 presidential election — a usually ceremonial endeavor that this year aligns with the overwhelming popular will of U.S. voters, who supported President-elect Joe Biden by a margin of 7 million votes.

In your very own words Steve, tell me what the above paragraph saying to you?



Wednesday, January 6th 2021 at 11:06PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Do you know the video I'm talking about Ron? The instant I saw it I recognized them: Antifa. That's why MSNBC stopped playing it.

Thursday, January 7th 2021 at 12:33AM
Steve Williams
No, why don't you start a blog and then we all will know what you are talking about.

Now back to my question: On Wednesday, a legion of far-right marchers plans to descend on the nation's capital. This isn't their first foray into Washington — in November and December, prior sorties saw white nationalists, Proud Boys, militia members and hard-core Trumpists stab bystanders, burn Black Lives Matter banners and sound ram's horns in support of the increasingly dim hope that Donald Trump will retain the presidency. But Jan. 6 is no incidental date; it's the day Congress counts the Electoral College's votes in the 2020 presidential election — a usually ceremonial endeavor that this year aligns with the overwhelming popular will of U.S. voters, who supported President-elect Joe Biden by a margin of 7 million votes.

In your very own words Steve, tell me what is the above paragraph saying to you?




Thursday, January 7th 2021 at 8:25AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Your paragraph is false Ron, that"s what it's saying to me.

Thursday, January 7th 2021 at 9:43AM
Steve Williams
I asked you to describe to me using your very own words the above paragraph saying to you? Not if this paragraph is false.

Now, tell me what part of this sentence is false, Steve?

On Wednesday, a legion of far-right marchers plans to descend on the nation's capital. This isn't their first foray into Washington — in November and December, prior sorties saw white nationalists, Proud Boys, militia members and hard-core Trumpists stab bystanders, burn Black Lives Matter banners and sound ram's horns in support of the increasingly dim hope that Donald Trump will retain the presidency.

Did this not happen?

Thursday, January 7th 2021 at 11:51AM
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